Then we had 10 days of bad weather until tonight and when I went to image I now have horizontal elongation on the top of the image and vertical elongation on the bottom as seen here:
Any thoughts as to what is going on before I make the drive out to the observatory tomorrow? I'm not sure how I could both elongations in the same image.
Hi all,
I have a stupid question: in the ProLine cameras, the two 1.65mm power
DC jacks - beside the power 4P jack, on the left - are made for
powering directly FLI PDF and FLI filter wheels? Has anyone done this?
If yes, where I can find cables and plugs (and which kind of plugs) to
make the right power connections? Many thanks and best regards,
Enzo Santin
http://www.enzosantin-astro.com/
Subject: [FLI_Imaging_Systems] ProLine - cables and plugs
Hi all, I have a stupid question: in the ProLine cameras, the two 1.65mm power DC jacks - beside the power 4P jack, on the left - are made for powering directly FLI PDF and FLI filter wheels? Has anyone done this? If yes, where I can find cables and plugs (and which kind of plugs) to make the right power connections? Many thanks and best regards,
Hello all,
This object is not so easy to do with narrowband filters, OIII is so
particulary difficult to process and challenge is to keep a good S/N on the
final image !
Object : IC1318
Common name : Nébuleuse Gamma du Cygne
Date : du 3 juin au 6 juillet 2007
Time : all
Optics : Lunette TEC140
Mount : Paramount ME
Location : Orange Observatory
Seeing : FWHM : 2,6 to 3,2 arc sec/§pixel (ccdinspector)
Ccd : Finger Lake Instrument IMG6303e
filter wheel : Cfw7
filters : Astrodon HaSIIOIII true color
Flattener field : TEC:
Focuser :Robofocus et focusmax
Temp. out : 10°
Temp ccd : -25° Total exposure :
Ha 32 x 10 mn all binning 1X1
SII 19 x 10 mn all binning 1X1
Ha 32 x 10 mn all binning 1X1
OIII 23 x 10 mn all binning 1X1
total exposure: 12 h 20m 00s
Link for the full details and 50% resolution image :
http://www.astrosurf.com/nico-outters/astro/ic1318%20en%20S2HaO3.htm
Full resolution :
http://www.astrosurf.com/nico-outters/images%20site%20astro/ic1318-ha-s2hao3-5.j\
pg
Nicolas Outters
http://www.astrosurf.com/nico-outters/astro/index.html
Great image Richard. Nice and smooth.
Greg.
--- In FLI_Imaging_Systems@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Crisp"
<rdcrisp@...> wrote:
>
> this has been another multi-night project. four to this point
>
> it is 29x20 minutes of exposure in [SII]/Ha/[OIII]
>
> http://www.narrowbandimaging.com/m16_mk1sn2_dm_geg_cs4_s2hao3_page.htm
>
> taken using the Stinger 450 classical cass and FLI Dream Machine
using Cust Sci 4.5nm emission line filters
>
> seeing isn't so hot shooting over the roof of the house and into the
city muck but it's either live with it or forget shooting it :-)
>
Many thanks Bob!
Enzo
--- In FLI_Imaging_Systems@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Holzer"
<b.holzer@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Enzo:
>
> I do this and it works great, really eliminates a lot of cable
mess. FLI sells a package of the short cables, 2 power and 2 short
USB, iirc about $50.
>
> Bob
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Enzo Santin
> To: FLI_Imaging_Systems@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 12:19 PM
> Subject: [FLI_Imaging_Systems] ProLine - cables and plugs
>
>
> Hi all,
> I have a stupid question: in the ProLine cameras, the two 1.65mm
power
> DC jacks - beside the power 4P jack, on the left - are made for
> powering directly FLI PDF and FLI filter wheels? Has anyone done
this?
> If yes, where I can find cables and plugs (and which kind of
plugs) to
> make the right power connections? Many thanks and best regards,
>
> Enzo Santin
>
> http://www.enzosantin-astro.com/
>
Hi,
When I touch the side of the connected camera with a dry finger I get a
tingling feeling. When touched with a wet one it disapears. This lead
me to thin that I have an earth problem. The images taken now have a
dappled effect as though some wierd filter has been selected. I am
using a laptop computer. Does anyone have any idea on how to get rid of
this please.
Thanks,
Tony Angel
Hi Folks:
Still working on issues, but making progress. Here is 8 hours on M31
from the Tak BRC-250 and Proline 16803. I'm pretty happy with the
results, although I still have some star issues.
http://www.bobholzer.com/images/m31-260-lrgb-v2.jpg
Bob
Hello John,
Fantastic shot John ! this view is impressive.
I am a fan of your Halpha pictures !
Nicolas Outters
http://www.astrosurf.com/nico-outters/astro/index.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "dvjbaja" <dvj@...>
To: <FLI_Imaging_Systems@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 7:35 PM
Subject: [FLI_Imaging_Systems] SH2 101 with Proline 16803
>
>
> Here is another view of SH2 101 in Ha with the Proline 16803 camera.
>
> http://www.buytelescopes.com/gallery/view_photo.asp?pid=14084&sg=8
>
>
>
> John Gleason
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Hello,
Veil nebulae is a real pleasure to process, each band is rich and I do for
comparaison some flash animations between gaz.
Technical data
Object : NGC6960
Common name : Dentelles du Cygne
Date : july 2007
Time : all
Optics : Lunette TEC140
Mount : Paramount ME
Location : Orange Observatory
Seeing : FWHM de à arc sec/§pixel (ccdinspector)
Ccd : Finger Lake Instrument IMG6303e
filter wheel : Cfw7
filters : Astrodon SII Ha OIII true color
flattener field : TEC
Focuser :Robofocus and focusmax
Temp. out : 10 °
Temp ccd : -25°
Ha 30 x 10 mn L
SII 12 x 10 mn blend on red
Ha 30 x 10 mn blend on green
OIII 27 x 10 mn blend on blue
Total exposure :11 h 30
links for flashs animations
http://www.astrosurf.com/nico-outters/astro/NGC6960%20HaSIIHaOIII%20comparaisons\
.htm
link for images
http://www.astrosurf.com/nico-outters/astro/NGC6960%20HaSIIHaOIII.htm
I hope you will like it.
Nicolas Outters
http://www.astrosurf.com/nico-outters/astro/index.html
Well done Bob!
Good to see such excellent guiding and processing though I see your
comment on the star issues with the dark banding around the brighter
objects. Is it from the processing?
Background is very smooth and star colors well represented.
Your detail is right on and the FOV reflects closely to my f/8 7" with
the same camera.
Your now on a roll!
Cheers
Bob
--- In FLI_Imaging_Systems@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Holzer" <b.holzer@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Hi Folks:
>
> Still working on issues, but making progress. Here is 8 hours on M31
> from the Tak BRC-250 and Proline 16803. I'm pretty happy with the
> results, although I still have some star issues.
>
> http://www.bobholzer.com/images/m31-260-lrgb-v2.jpg
>
> Bob
>
Gee.
Bob Holzer wrote:
> Hi Folks:
>
> Still working on issues, but making progress. Here is 8 hours on M31
> from the Tak BRC-250 and Proline 16803. I'm pretty happy with the
> results, although I still have some star issues.
>
> http://www.bobholzer.com/images/m31-260-lrgb-v2.jpg
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
Thank you Nicolas,
This is one of my favorite northern hemisphere fields. Although I am
partial to southern sky nebulae, I think we have some pretty darn
good objects on the north side of the equator.
jg
--- In FLI_Imaging_Systems@yahoogroups.com, "nicolas outters"
<nico.outters@...> wrote:
>
> Hello John,
>
> Fantastic shot John ! this view is impressive.
> I am a fan of your Halpha pictures !
>
> Nicolas Outters
> http://www.astrosurf.com/nico-outters/astro/index.html
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "dvjbaja" <dvj@...>
> To: <FLI_Imaging_Systems@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 7:35 PM
> Subject: [FLI_Imaging_Systems] SH2 101 with Proline 16803
>
>
> >
> >
> > Here is another view of SH2 101 in Ha with the Proline 16803
camera.
> >
> > http://www.buytelescopes.com/gallery/view_photo.asp?pid=14084&sg=8
> >
> >
> >
> > John Gleason
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
Don't want to start a fight, but I'm not sure I'm happy with my
Astrodon filters. Two issues:
1. Reflections, especially bad on the Blue and Green filters
2. My color ratios are really out of whack from what I expected. I'm
shooting RGB at 1:1:1.5. But then I'm making huge adjustments on the
order of reducing red 50% and increasing blue 2 or 3 times to get a
good balance. I'll do a G2V, but it just doesn't seem right.
Can the other 16803 users tell me what they are using for filters,
whether they have reflections, and how the color ratios are coming out?
Thanks,
Bob
I'd like to know what temperature deltas folks are getting with the
ProLine 16803. FLI lists cooling specs for the entire ProLine platform
but I'm wondering if those specs actually vary from chip to chip.
Given the 16803 is such a large chip I guess I'd expect to possibly see
a small degradation in cooling capability compared to cameras with
smaller chips. Any real-world experience folks would be willing to
share with me (either on the group or offline)?
Thanks much,
Jeff
Still working on issues, but making progress. Here is 8 hours on M31 from the Tak BRC-250 and Proline 16803. I'm pretty happy with the results, although I still have some star issues.
This is strange Bob, I responded to your post yesterday and it still
has not shown up.
Irrespective, great start!
I agree that there is something in the processing or somewhere that
is causing the darken areas around the brighter objects but the star
colors and detail on M31 is very good.
Well done. Hope you find out what is causing the problem quickly.
Cheers
Bob
--- In FLI_Imaging_Systems@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Holzer"
<b.holzer@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Folks:
>
> Still working on issues, but making progress. Here is 8 hours on M31
> from the Tak BRC-250 and Proline 16803. I'm pretty happy with the
> results, although I still have some star issues.
>
> http://www.bobholzer.com/images/m31-260-lrgb-v2.jpg
>
> Bob
>
John, this is one of the deepest (and beautiful) views of Sh2-101.
Congratulations!
Giovanni
dvjbaja wrote:
>
>
>
> Thank you Nicolas,
>
> This is one of my favorite northern hemisphere fields. Although I am
> partial to southern sky nebulae, I think we have some pretty darn
> good objects on the north side of the equator.
>
> jg
>
> --- In FLI_Imaging_Systems@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:FLI_Imaging_Systems%40yahoogroups.com>, "nicolas outters"
> <nico.outters@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hello John,
> >
> > Fantastic shot John ! this view is impressive.
> > I am a fan of your Halpha pictures !
> >
> > Nicolas Outters
> > http://www.astrosurf.com/nico-outters/astro/index.html
> <http://www.astrosurf.com/nico-outters/astro/index.html>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "dvjbaja" <dvj@...>
> > To: <FLI_Imaging_Systems@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:FLI_Imaging_Systems%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 7:35 PM
> > Subject: [FLI_Imaging_Systems] SH2 101 with Proline 16803
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Here is another view of SH2 101 in Ha with the Proline 16803
> camera.
> > >
> > > http://www.buytelescopes.com/gallery/view_photo.asp?pid=14084&sg=8
> <http://www.buytelescopes.com/gallery/view_photo.asp?pid=14084&sg=8>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > John Gleason
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale!
http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com
I'd like some fits darks, bias, and flats.
Perhaps on a CD.
email if you are willing and I'll forward my address.
I might be able to supply a file server to ftp them to.
klomperklaus wrote:
> I'd like to know what temperature deltas folks are getting with the
> ProLine 16803. FLI lists cooling specs for the entire ProLine platform
> but I'm wondering if those specs actually vary from chip to chip.
> Given the 16803 is such a large chip I guess I'd expect to possibly see
> a small degradation in cooling capability compared to cameras with
> smaller chips. Any real-world experience folks would be willing to
> share with me (either on the group or offline)?
>
> Thanks much,
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
Thanks everyone for the good comments, greatly appreciated, nice that
things are coming together.
Bob A.: Don't forget the group is now moderated, that's why there is a
delay, maybe FLI will reconsider.
The dark area around the brightest star is a just a little
over-processing artifact.
Bob
--- In FLI_Imaging_Systems@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Anderson"
<bob@...> wrote:
>
> This is strange Bob, I responded to your post yesterday and it still
> has not shown up.
>
> Irrespective, great start!
>
> I agree that there is something in the processing or somewhere that
> is causing the darken areas around the brighter objects but the star
> colors and detail on M31 is very good.
>
> Well done. Hope you find out what is causing the problem quickly.
>
> Cheers
>
> Bob
>
> --- In FLI_Imaging_Systems@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Holzer"
> <b.holzer@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Folks:
> >
> > Still working on issues, but making progress. Here is 8 hours on M31
> > from the Tak BRC-250 and Proline 16803. I'm pretty happy with the
> > results, although I still have some star issues.
> >
> > http://www.bobholzer.com/images/m31-260-lrgb-v2.jpg
> >
> > Bob
> >
>
Hi Jeff:
I think I'm getting just over 60 degrees. I went to take darks during
the daytime a few days ago and it was the first time I couldn't make
it down to my usual -30. Then I realized the temperature in the
observatory was 101 degrees! The readings were based on what FocusMax
and my ST-402 guide camera where reporting back as temps, so I'm not
100% how accurate the readings are, but I've been imaging at -30 all
summer with air temps still in the 80's.
hth,
Bob
--- In FLI_Imaging_Systems@yahoogroups.com, "klomperklaus"
<herman@...> wrote:
>
> I'd like to know what temperature deltas folks are getting with the
> ProLine 16803. FLI lists cooling specs for the entire ProLine platform
> but I'm wondering if those specs actually vary from chip to chip.
> Given the 16803 is such a large chip I guess I'd expect to possibly see
> a small degradation in cooling capability compared to cameras with
> smaller chips. Any real-world experience folks would be willing to
> share with me (either on the group or offline)?
>
> Thanks much,
>
> Jeff
>
-30C on a regular basis.
-----Original Message-----
>From: klomperklaus <herman@...>
>Sent: Sep 14, 2007 7:06 PM
>To: FLI_Imaging_Systems@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [FLI_Imaging_Systems] Real-world cooling with ProLine 16803
>
>I'd like to know what temperature deltas folks are getting with the
>ProLine 16803. FLI lists cooling specs for the entire ProLine platform
>but I'm wondering if those specs actually vary from chip to chip.
>Given the 16803 is such a large chip I guess I'd expect to possibly see
>a small degradation in cooling capability compared to cameras with
>smaller chips. Any real-world experience folks would be willing to
>share with me (either on the group or offline)?
>
>Thanks much,
>
>Jeff
>
Thank you Giovanni for showing me the way with the this great combo!
Bob
--- In FLI_Imaging_Systems@yahoogroups.com, Giovanni Benintende
<gbenint@...> wrote:
>
> Magnificent view, Bob. ProLine 16803 & BRC-250 make a great duo!
> :-)
>
> Giovanni
>
>
> Bob Holzer wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Folks:
> >
> > Still working on issues, but making progress. Here is 8 hours on M31
> > from the Tak BRC-250 and Proline 16803. I'm pretty happy with the
> > results, although I still have some star issues.
> >
> > http://www.bobholzer.com/images/m31-260-lrgb-v2.jpg
> > <http://www.bobholzer.com/images/m31-260-lrgb-v2.jpg>
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale!
> http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com
>
Interesting presentation Nicolas!
Bob
--- In FLI_Imaging_Systems@yahoogroups.com, "nicolas outters"
<nico.outters@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Veil nebulae is a real pleasure to process, each band is rich and I
do for
> comparaison some flash animations between gaz.
>
> Technical data
>
> Object : NGC6960
> Common name : Dentelles du Cygne
> Date : july 2007
> Time : all
> Optics : Lunette TEC140
> Mount : Paramount ME
> Location : Orange Observatory
> Seeing : FWHM de à arc sec/§pixel (ccdinspector)
> Ccd : Finger Lake Instrument IMG6303e
> filter wheel : Cfw7
> filters : Astrodon SII Ha OIII true color
> flattener field : TEC
> Focuser :Robofocus and focusmax
> Temp. out : 10 °
> Temp ccd : -25°
> Ha 30 x 10 mn L
> SII 12 x 10 mn blend on red
> Ha 30 x 10 mn blend on green
> OIII 27 x 10 mn blend on blue
> Total exposure :11 h 30
>
> links for flashs animations
>
>
http://www.astrosurf.com/nico-outters/astro/NGC6960%20HaSIIHaOIII%20comparaisons\
.htm
>
> link for images
>
> http://www.astrosurf.com/nico-outters/astro/NGC6960%20HaSIIHaOIII.htm
>
> I hope you will like it.
>
> Nicolas Outters
> http://www.astrosurf.com/nico-outters/astro/index.html
>