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RE: [Ferret-Genetics] Re: Dark-eyed White vs. Albino

Ok Bill, I take an Albino ferret to mean it has no colour whatsoever and when I breed it to another Albino I only get pure white ferret kits.  But I have used red eyed (not pink) Albino in a mating with a pink eyed Albino which produced some coloured kits (sandy). That is why I though that the red eyed Albinos were carrying some colour genes in their makeup.    Chris.



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... Black-eyed whites and dark-eyed whites are one in the same. If you look deeply into the eye of a dark or black eyed ferret, you WILL see burgundy or red...
MC
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May 1, 2002
3:25 pm

... albino. They are not. An albino has red eyes and complete lack of ... result of pigment, therefore, not an albino. Then what is the exact eye colour of a...
Marie Bartholdsson
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May 1, 2002
3:32 pm

... Red or pink. Not burgundy. You are looking into the eye which is why you see the red or pink. ... Albinos are very prone to cataracts and get them...
Sukie Crandall
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May 1, 2002
6:55 pm

Pink, red...they are all the same...the color in an albino's eye is determined by the amount of blood in the retina. It can vary, depending on the amount of ...
MC
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May 1, 2002
4:09 pm

... YES! But it also means no pigment in the eyes or elsewhere -- pink noses are from blood underneath... ... Yep....
Sukie Crandall
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May 1, 2002
7:00 pm

... No, that's not it. The eyes have a clear red pupil and the surrounding iris is a very pale pink, close to white. ...
Marie Bartholdsson
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May 1, 2002
7:06 pm

... Oh, okay. That's albino. Missed that you had moved from lens to iris. That's not pigment, just structural....
Sukie Crandall
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May 1, 2002
7:20 pm

The iris color of an albino ferret is the same as their hair color - clear. No pigment. But then is albino only to be used for absolute lack of pigment? Or...
William Killian
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May 1, 2002
10:01 pm

... No, that is not an albino. The biological and medical definition is of lack of pigment, not depletion. The easiest thing is to just use a phenotypic...
Sukie Crandall
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May 2, 2002
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... Again, not to all people, yes including biologists and doctors. The website of NOAH - The National Organization for Albinism and hypopigmentation at...
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May 2, 2002
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Ok Bill, I take an Albino ferret to mean it has no colour whatsoever and when I breed it to another Albino I only get pure white ferret kits. But I have used...
Chris Lloyd
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May 2, 2002
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... All albinoes have color genes. Albinism is caused by one of several genes that cause a total or near total lack of pigment despite the genes that cause a...
bill and diane killia...
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May 2, 2002
9:21 am

... That sounds like genotypic as well as phenotypic if the form of albinism under discussion is a homozygous condition (requiring two copies of the allele to...
Sukie Crandall
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May 2, 2002
5:35 pm

(But then is albino only to be used for absolute lack of pigment?) Yes that is the correct usage of the word. Chris....
Chris Lloyd
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May 2, 2002
7:28 am

... Yep, when discussing biology, biological definitions need to hold rather than convenient re-definitions. (We already get too many of the second with...
Sukie Crandall
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May 2, 2002
5:22 pm

... You never give up do you? -- bill and diane killian zen and the art of ferrets http://www.zenferret.com/ mailto:killian@......
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May 2, 2002
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(In certain repties the albinos are not white or completely colorless but have markings that are just extremely washed out in color.) In reptiles the makeup of...
Chris Lloyd
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May 2, 2002
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... Sort of. Some ferrets have pink noses and some have brown while still others have black (or near black). Isn't this more like the color in the skin of a...
bill and diane killia...
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May 2, 2002
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(Blood is not red due to pigment so that is a non-sequitor.) Yes, sorry my wrong use of the word pigment. Boy this list is getting technical. Chris....
Chris Lloyd
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... From: "MC" <MC@...> To: <Ferret-Genetics@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:09 PM Subject: [Ferret-Genetics] Re:...
William Killian
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May 1, 2002
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... Biology and medical definition of albino is that pigment is ABSENT. The line is a different matter, but "albino" has a specific definition....
Sukie Crandall
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May 2, 2002
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... I am afraid that is not a universal definition http://www.keratin.com/as/as004.shtml Partial albinism is indeed a reduction in pigment. Unless you can...
bill and diane killia...
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May 2, 2002
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(The common histopathology of Griscelli syndrome involves prominent, mature melanosomes in skin and hair follicle melanocytes, but sparse pigmentation of...
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In a message dated 05/02/2002 3:33:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ... I understand your frustration if you think someone is mistaken, I really do. But your...
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