November has turned out to be a busy month for Portland Fire & Rescue.
Portland firefighters have rescued 5 people from 4 house fires in the
past 18 days.
Nov. 22 - 1 person rescued:
http://www.pbase.com/dickh/8435_ne_holladay
Nov. 19th - 1 person rescued. No photos
Nov. 14th - 2 people rescued. No photos
Nov. 5th - 1 person rescued:
http://www.pbase.com/dickh/1479_se_46th_ave
And there is always training. Sta. 1 held a Hi Angle Rope Rescue Drill
at a high voltage tower this week (Nov. 19-21).
http://www.pbase.com/dickh/hi_angle_rope_rescue_drill
Dick
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I'm fairly new at this, as can be seen by my amateurish photos,
however, I placed a few photos in a new photo album of a local fire
that was part of the NorCal Lightning Fire Siege 2008. These were
just a few photos that I could get of it taking off. Unfortunately,
due to the unprecedented fire behavior that day, I wasn't ever allowed
to get close enough to get some good fire shots, but I thought I'd put
a couple of the ones that I did get of the building smoke column.
Hopefully, as my experience grows, I'll be able to add to some more
action oriented photos if the opportunity arises.
News Release from: Portland Fire & Rescue
3 ALARM FIRE DAMAGES LONGTIME PORTLAND COMPANY
Posted: July 23rd, 2008 12:53 PM
Today at about 9:50 am Portland Firefighters responded to the call of
a fire at Buckaroo Thermoseal. This long time Portland area business
is located at 5410 NE 109th Ave.
The first fire company to arrive reported "… a 100 ft. X 200 ft.
building with heavy fire and smoke." The smoke was being generated by
a free burning fire in several different types of roofing materials,
the heavy black column could be seen for miles.
Initial concerns for firefighters were power lines falling, semi-
trucks at the loading dock that needed to be moved, a 5,000 gallon
diesel tank near the fire building, and keeping the fire from
spreading to other businesses from the embers falling from the smoke
column.
First Alarm 9:50 am
Second Alarm 9:56 am
Third Alarm 10:15 am
Recall 11:10 am
Photos: http://www.pbase.com/dickh/station_2
911 received several calls for a house fire and dispatched a full
assignment at 20:42.
Response was Engs. 28, 13, 9, 12, Truck 13, C4 & C2.
This is a rather busy street with a bus route and near a shopping area
with lots of
Saturday traffic, so one wonders why it got such a head start.
On arrival Eng. 28 reported a working fire. The font of the house was
fully engulfed and
fire was showing on the B side toward the rear.
C4 assumed command and ordered an extra engine and truck. Engine 19
stopped at
Sta. 12 and picked up Rehab 12.
The first photo was 11 min. after the dispatch and the main body of
fire had already
been knocked down.
Photos here: http://www.pbase.com/dickh/2515_42nd_ave
Another supper time apartment fire, 2 days in a row. Yesterday's
damaged a kitchen wall and cabinets but it was controlled by the
sprinkler. Today's un-sprinklered apartment didn't do so well. When
first due Engine 28 arrived, they had heavy fire in the rear on the B,
C and D sides. Since the fire was extending to apartment buildings on 3
sides, the Battalion Chief called for a 2nd alarm. An aggresive attack
by the first alarm companies resulted in a quick knowkdown.
Photos:
Chief Bancroft, Safety Chief, surveys conditions.
http://www.pbase.com/image/99850964
He reports his findings to Chief Burns in Command in Eng. 28.
http://www.pbase.com/dickh/image/99851184
The D side. As I recall, we had the A side of this building last year.
http://www.pbase.com/dickh/image/99851213
Now the fun phase. http://www.pbase.com/dickh/image/99851668
--- In FireFotosWest@yahoogroups.com, "rh1067" <DH1067@...> wrote:
>
> That term certainly makes sense since intra means within, but I'm
from
> the east coast and I've never heard the term in the 50 or so years
I've
> been involved with the fire service. Having said that, I have to
admit
> I'm not very interested in the apparatus, only in the fires they
> fight.:)
> Another observation. Someone used the term "wagon" to describe
Engine
> 12s spare. Back in Boston a wagon is (was) a hose wagon. Boston had
> quite a few in the 50s and 60s, but they were gradually phased out.
The
> most notable was Engine 26s wagon that had 3 deck guns on it. For
the
> doubting Thomases, I have photos.
> Also, at that time every Cambridge engine company was a double
company -
> pump and wagon.
> Finally, the photo on the Portland fire web site is out of date.
After
> the 7 Pierce pumps arrive, we will completely update the site. It
will
> take some time before all the apparatus re-assignments are
finished,
> but it will be done.
>
Although the true two piece engine company no longer exists, the
term "wagon" is still relatively common in here the Mid-Atlantic.
Those of us who are older often use it without any thought. In fact
you will still find apparatus lettered "wagon" in VA. Love seeing the
stuff from the Northwest.
As the 4th of July approaches, runs seem to increase and some are
rather bizarre (like a houseboat drifting down the Columbia river and
someone jumping off a bridge with a rope around his neck, etc.)
Here are a few I've caught in 4 days.
June 25 - This first one was pretty routine. An apartment fire in
adjacent Gresham with Portland companies participating. (Engs 2, 30,
31 & Truck 2).
The Probies from training (Station 2) masking up before starting
overhaul.
http://www.pbase.com/image/99401878
June 26, 07:15 Train wreck with 36 cars derailed. Some cars were on
bridges over I-84 and I-205 and it was feared the lumber could fall
onto the highways, so they were both closed.
This shot is looking east. More derailed cars are behind me, looking
west.
http://www.pbase.com/dickh/image/99402148
Chief Bray was in Command.
http://www.pbase.com/dickh/image/99402121
June 26 around 1300 a crane hit a 115,000 volt line. According to
other workers, there were several explosions, one that blew the door
off a large electrical vault up on the crane (just to the right of
the center of the structure). The operator was not injured, but
rather shaken up. When the power was shut off, two members of Squad 1
(Heavy Rescue), climbed up to evaluate his condition and accompany
him down.
http://www.pbase.com/dickh/image/99401932http://www.pbase.com/dickh/image/99402013
June 27 on I-84. A young lady anticipating a seizure, stop in the
high speed lane. The 2 police officers called for an ambulance and
Rescue 19. There are seizures and there are seizures. This was a
SEIZURE. She was in and out of consciousness and had to be dragged
out of the car. When conscious, she was extremely violent. It took
the two cops and an R-19 member to hold her down while the ambulance
crew tied her down. It took nearly 10 minutes to finally restrain
her.
http://www.pbase.com/dickh/image/99402168
June 28. The temperature had been increasing daily and while dead on
100, we had a call for a sprinkler alarm. It was a large Chinese
restaurant in a small mall and a head had broken in the kitchen. The
workers were all running around and of course nobody had a key to the
sprinkler room so we had to force the door. Someone mentioned
something about a Chinese fire drill. LOL
All in all an interesting few days.
http://www.pbase.com/dickh/image/99402254
That term certainly makes sense since intra means within, but I'm from
the east coast and I've never heard the term in the 50 or so years I've
been involved with the fire service. Having said that, I have to admit
I'm not very interested in the apparatus, only in the fires they
fight.:)
Another observation. Someone used the term "wagon" to describe Engine
12s spare. Back in Boston a wagon is (was) a hose wagon. Boston had
quite a few in the 50s and 60s, but they were gradually phased out. The
most notable was Engine 26s wagon that had 3 deck guns on it. For the
doubting Thomases, I have photos.
Also, at that time every Cambridge engine company was a double company -
pump and wagon.
Finally, the photo on the Portland fire web site is out of date. After
the 7 Pierce pumps arrive, we will completely update the site. It will
take some time before all the apparatus re-assignments are finished,
but it will be done.
--- In FireFotosWest@yahoogroups.com, SBALL7922@... wrote:
>That is correct, if the pump is behind the sheet metal it is an
intra-cab, if it is in front, it is a front mount. Intra-cab is what
the manufacturs called them, not a regional name. I believe Western
States probably built the most. Nice to know I wasn't loosing my mind.
> It is my belief they?are called intercab engines when the pump was
enclosed in the front of the apparatus as opposed to the front mount
outside the cab. Portland Fire?web site shows station 28 and 30
having these types of engines. I am not sure of the year they were
built but I think they are relatively new. I have included a link to
one of the stations showing the engine.
> ?
> http://www.portlandonline.com/fire/index.cfm?&a=56420&c=35156
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Hoppe <lucifersoffspring@...>
> To: FireFotosWest@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 7:16 pm
> Subject: Re: [FireFotosWest] Re: Maywood Park House Fire 6-23-08
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> perhaps he's referring to the front-mounted pump on one of the
engines? I'm guessing it was a reserve, since i haven't seen one of
those in front-line service in quite some time
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: rh1067
>
> To: FireFotosWest@yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 4:25 PM
>
> Subject: [FireFotosWest] Re: Maywood Park House Fire 6-23-08
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In FireFotosWest@yahoogroups.com, "JR" <popcoffeecup@> wrote:
> > Is it my imagination, or is the one wagon in the head to head
shot
> > an 'intra-cab pumper?
> >
> It must be your imagination because I've never heard the
term "intra-
> cab pumper. Or maybe it's just a local term.
>
--- In FireFotosWest@yahoogroups.com, SBALL7922@... wrote:
>
> It is my belief they?are called intercab engines when the pump was
enclosed in the front of the apparatus as opposed to the front mount
outside the cab. Portland Fire?web site shows station 28 and 30 having
these types of engines. I am not sure of the year they were built but I
think they are relatively new. I have included a link to one of the
stations showing the engine.
28 has an American LaFrance. That is an old photo.
30 also has an ALF. The front mount is a spare.
When the 7 Pierce engines arrive, I'll ask the webmaster to update the
web site.
It is my belief they are called intercab engines when the pump was enclosed in the front of the apparatus as opposed to the front mount outside the cab. Portland Fire web site shows station 28 and 30 having these types of engines. I am not sure of the year they were built but I think they are relatively new. I have included a link to one of the stations showing the engine.
-----Original Message-----
From: John Hoppe <lucifersoffspring@...>
To: FireFotosWest@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 7:16 pm
Subject: Re: [FireFotosWest] Re: Maywood Park House Fire 6-23-08
perhaps he's referring to the front-mounted pump on one of the engines? I'm guessing it was a reserve, since i haven't seen one of those in front-line service in quite some time
Subject: [FireFotosWest] Re: Maywood Park House Fire 6-23-08
--- In FireFotosWest@yahoogroups.com, "JR" <popcoffeecup@...> wrote:
> Is it my imagination, or is the one wagon in the head to head shot
> an 'intra-cab pumper?
>
It must be your imagination because I've never heard the term "intra-
cab pumper. Or maybe it's just a local term.
perhaps he's referring to the front-mounted pump on one of the engines? I'm guessing it was a reserve, since i haven't seen one of those in front-line service in quite some time
Subject: [FireFotosWest] Re: Maywood Park House Fire 6-23-08
--- In FireFotosWest@yahoogroups.com, "JR" <popcoffeecup@...> wrote: > Is it my imagination, or is the one wagon in the head to head shot > an 'intra-cab pumper? > It must be your imagination because I've never heard the term "intra- cab pumper. Or maybe it's just a local term.
--- In FireFotosWest@yahoogroups.com, "JR" <popcoffeecup@...> wrote:
> Is it my imagination, or is the one wagon in the head to head shot
> an 'intra-cab pumper?
>
It must be your imagination because I've never heard the term "intra-
cab pumper. Or maybe it's just a local term.
--- In FireFotosWest@yahoogroups.com, "rh1067" <DH1067@...> wrote:
>
> Just after 01:30 on Monday, June 23, Portland tapped out
(dispatched)
> a box for NE 99th Ave. and Failing St. in the small, upper middle
class
> residential "city" of Maywood Park. Maywood Park, about 16 square
> blocks, is surrounded by Portland and receives all its services
from
> Portland.
> Dispatch reported receiving numerous calls for a house fire. They
also
> reported an occupant still in the house. The box assignment was
E12,
> E19, E2, E30, Truck 2, C3 & C4.
> On arrival, E12 found fire already through the roof and stretched a
> line and made entry searching for the occupant. When the police
arrived
> a short time later they found the occupant had left on his own, but
had
> some burns from attempting to fight the fire. Sound familiar?
> Access was difficult because of piles of "stuff" throughout the
> structure. Fearing the roof would collapse, Command ordered
companies
> out of the building. Command special called E28, Truck7 and Rehab.
12.
> One firefighter from E19 suffered heat exhaustion. He was taken to
the
> hospital, treated and released. The fire was recalled (under
control)
> at 03:32.
>
> Photos: http://www.pbase.com/dickh/maywood_park
>
Is it my imagination, or is the one wagon in the head to head shot
an 'intra-cab pumper?
M. L. Herrick (JR)
Just after 01:30 on Monday, June 23, Portland tapped out (dispatched)
a box for NE 99th Ave. and Failing St. in the small, upper middle class
residential "city" of Maywood Park. Maywood Park, about 16 square
blocks, is surrounded by Portland and receives all its services from
Portland.
Dispatch reported receiving numerous calls for a house fire. They also
reported an occupant still in the house. The box assignment was E12,
E19, E2, E30, Truck 2, C3 & C4.
On arrival, E12 found fire already through the roof and stretched a
line and made entry searching for the occupant. When the police arrived
a short time later they found the occupant had left on his own, but had
some burns from attempting to fight the fire. Sound familiar?
Access was difficult because of piles of "stuff" throughout the
structure. Fearing the roof would collapse, Command ordered companies
out of the building. Command special called E28, Truck7 and Rehab. 12.
One firefighter from E19 suffered heat exhaustion. He was taken to the
hospital, treated and released. The fire was recalled (under control)
at 03:32.
Photos: http://www.pbase.com/dickh/maywood_park
911 received many calls for a fire at the former Albina Fuel company
office building at NE 33rd Ave. and Broadway, one of the busier
Portland intersections. Engines 13 and 28 probaly arrived at the same
time since the location is midway between their stations.
10 photos in this gallery. Click "Slideshow", upper right, or indiviual
photos to see a larger image: http://www.pbase.com/dickh/sta_28
After a long drought, there are finally some photos worth posting.
This week there were 2 days with back to back working fires, but the
first two were not worth posting. This one made up for all the weeks
with few fires. I'll complete the captions as I find time.
http://www.pbase.com/dickh/4430_se_center_st
Took this photo this AM, one week after the fire. The victim succumbed
to his injuries and last Friday we had another fatal fire, this time in
SW Portland.
http://www.pbase.com/dickh/image/92490533
Nice work Chet! Thanks for the contribution! I love the shot of
the guys on the front patio. Does Burbank still use open jumpseat (not
enclosed) Seagraves??? That would be enough to make me very jealous;-
)
--- In FireFotosWest@yahoogroups.com, "cb_in_socal"
<chester.r.brown@...> wrote:
>
> Well got something to post LOL.
>
> Not sure if this will work but we shall see. Some smoke, no fire.
>
> http://pa.photoshelter.com/gallery-show/G0000nrBzpwcW3QE
>
> Let me know if it works for all of you.
>
> Chet
>
If those photos were "poor quality", I would hate to see your bad ones. I wish I still had some of my bad shots from the 1970's. Thats when we still used this thing called "film".
Dennis
-------------- Original message -------------- From: "rh1067" <DH1067@...>
A stranger to Portland called 911 at 7:45 AM and reported smoke from the eaves of a house on Holgate Ave., maybe around 61st Ave. 911 dispatched a box assignment comprising Engines 25, 11, 9, 23, Truck 25 and Batt. Chiefs 3 & 4. The companies searched the area but found nothing and started to return to quarters. As is customary, they returned by circuitous routes and Engine 9 found the fire 4 or 5 blocks away from the reported location.
Sorry for the poor quality of these photos, but I was experimenting with some camera settings and forgot to restore them.
The captions under each photo tell the story. Click NEXT, top right or bottom right of a photo to advance to the next photo.
A stranger to Portland called 911 at 7:45 AM and reported smoke from
the eaves of a house on Holgate Ave., maybe around 61st Ave. 911
dispatched a box assignment comprising Engines 25, 11, 9, 23, Truck 25
and Batt. Chiefs 3 & 4.
The companies searched the area but found nothing and started to return
to quarters. As is customary, they returned by circuitous routes and
Engine 9 found the fire 4 or 5 blocks away from the reported location.
Sorry for the poor quality of these photos, but I was experimenting
with some camera settings and forgot to restore them.
The captions under each photo tell the story. Click NEXT, top right or
bottom right of a photo to advance to the next photo.
http://www.pbase.com/dickh/4429_se_65th
A digital camera holds valuable information that you may not be aware
of. It's called Exif, meaning "Exchangeable image file format, a
specification for the image file metadata format used in audio and
image files".
Now that you have that memorized, :), in real English it means the
info. that is stored in each digital image. Depending on the editing
program you use, you can see just a few items or up to 50 or 60, many
of which I don't understand.
Accessing the Exif differs depending on your program, but usually if
you right click an image you can see the date and time it was
created. To see the full Exif in some programs you need to open the
IMAGE menu or VIEW menu and click PROPERTIES or INFORMATION.
I use Irfanview, a free program. In an image I just checked I saw 59
entries in the Exif.
One way I like to use the Exif is for time study. In this example we
can see how quickly a van fire was put out. Open the first image
(upper left), then click NEXT on the right side above or below the
image to advance to the next one. Each image except the last shows
the exact time, taken from the Exif. It is easy to see that from
pulling the booster to initial extinguishment was just 11 seconds.
That included a quick sweep up the tree that was igniting.
http://www.pbase.com/dickh/van_fire_time_study
At about 3:15 this morning, a full assignment was dispatched for an
apartment fire at NE 21st Ave. & Weidler St. Engine 13 and Truck 13,
stationed at 9th and Weidler arrived quickly with heavy fire showing
from a 1st floor room in the rear and extending up the exterior wall
into a room on the 2nd floor. One occupant was removed to a hospital.
A 2nd alarm was sounded because access to the fire area was very
difficult. Ladders had to be thrown from an adjacent property that
was like a jungle.
http://www.pbase.com/dickh/image/91638416
Narrow property on the fire side made access difficult.
http://www.pbase.com/dickh/image/91638463
Ladders had to be carried through trees and over a fence.
http://www.pbase.com/dickh/image/91638516
Apparatus lined up on Weidler St.
http://www.pbase.com/dickh/image/91639065
When starting a thread to discuss a fire photo related subject such
as "Photographing Night-time Fires" or our relations with our fire
department, the guideline of "MUST post a photo" obviously does not
apply.
Regarding the subjects in the FILES section, we urge members to
contribute their experiences, thoughts and ideas on the various
subjects already there and to add other information that could be
helpful to the rest of us.
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