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Can you tell me where I find the >HTML< codes to adde the "Add to My
yahoo!" feature to my lists?
I couldn't find it...maybe I just over looked it...

If this has been discussed beforehand I am sorry I didn't notice
it...can you please than referre to the msg# concerning this.

Thanks
Dani



[MODERATOR: They are added by Yahoo. Only groups with PUBLIC message
archives get such an option. Groups with member-only message boards
do not have the My Groups or RSS option.]

That number is not terribly reliable.  I have noticed that number
changes if I modify a photo in my group.  For example I change the
photo names all the time to be the members yahoo ID .. that adds to
the "new photo" total.

I have a link saved of my photo section sorted in date order and in
list view mode.  Makes checking the additions easier.

It would be very nice if the owner could get notification of new
photos.


--- In GroupManagersForum@yahoogroups.com, "Daniela"
<tarataysse@y...> wrote:
>
>
> But with photos I noticed that in the "New withing the next 7 days"
> feature only new yahoo cover pics are being listed...not other

Apparently, Yahoo has changed something in the software, and I'm
loking for a fix.

The problem is in accessing the list of members. Used to be that it
behaved like one single long list, in that you could (if you had the
time) keep clicking the "Next" button and go through that list from
A to Z.  Of course, there were entry points along the bottom of the
pages so that you could, for example, click on the letter "S" and
the list would open up at the beginning of the "S" names.  And from
there, you could click "Next" to go forward through the list, or
click "Previous" to go back and see the end of the "R" names.

Now, they treat it like 26 separate lists.  If you click "S", the
page that comes up lists (for example) 1-30 of 114.  But these 30
names are not in any alphabetic order.  Nor do all the log-on names,
or all the e-addresses, necessarily start with "S", although one or
the other name on a given line usually will.

The "Previous" button is not active:  from the first part of "S" you
cannot go back to the last part of "R".   But the real killer is
this:

Clicking the "Next" button takes you to a page that lists 31-
204554696 of 114.  And on THAT page, the "Next" button is
inoperative.   So there is no way I can review all 141 of my "S"
names, nor even find where they may be scattered.

Sorry for the length, but I did not know how to describe the problem
more succinctly.

Any ideas out there?

Thanks in advance.

Gene Baraff

Looks like you can't "de-list" (make unlisted) a group once created.
Am I right? If you can - how?
thanx,
  charlie

--- In GroupManagersForum@yahoogroups.com, "Charlie C" <cwdwiz@n...>
wrote:
> Looks like you can't "de-list" (make unlisted) a group once
> created. Am I right? If you can - how?

If you click on Management, then under Group Settings on the
right, click on the Membership link.  Click on the Edit link
next to Membership Type and Welcome Message.  There are options
there to set your group as a closed (unlisted, private, invite
only) group or set it to restricted membership (you approve
all requests for membership).  I believe that closed groups
are defaulted to not listed in the directory and cannot be
changed.  The only way someone can view the group is to be
a member.  Once you set the group that way, it cannot be
changed.

To just have it listed or not listed in the directories, go
back to the main Management page, click on the Edit link next
to Description and Appearance and under the Description area,
there is a check box to make the group listed or unlisted in
the Yahoo! Groups directories.  Remember, even if you have it
unlisted, if it's an open group, anyone who knows the URL for
your group can still get there just by typing it into the address
bar.

Sheri

I just noticed Yahoo took my Photo down. I thought it to be in the public
domain! In the vietnam war, the 9 year old girl burned by US napalm gas.

Who complained?  Who has any information?  Please get in touch with me. Thanks.


--> in this group

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sorryeverybody/


Now look at the 3rd entry...


11/24/2004 1:23 pmbeach7851 <beach7851@...>Membership request approved by
turboredcart <turboredcart@...>12/2/2004 11:07 amoliverbxtr
<oliverbxtr@...>Membership request approved by phranc98
<phranc98@...>12/2/2004 5:02 pm Edited group photo by customersupport
<Email Private>




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



[MODERATOR REMOVED PROMOTIONAL LINKS. Please use your Profile for
such a purpose. If it's less than 70 years, AP still owns the photo.
Duh.]

Halstead

The photo I am sure you are speaking of was taken by an AP
Photograhoer Nick Ut.  He won a Pulitzer Prize for that photo. He
news photographer and I am sure that image is copywrited by the AP.
It can only be used if a royalty is paid and you have the
permission.

Yahoo acts quickly on copywrited material.  Especially one so easily
identifable as Ut's photo of Phan Thi Kim Phuc.

I think that the observation that it was due to the child being nude
is probably what triggered a complaint to yahoo .. they immediately
recognized it as a copywrited photo and removed it.

No censorship here whatsoever ..

Athena



--- In GroupManagersForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Scott"
<unifan2001@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In GroupManagersForum@yahoogroups.com, "Halsted R. Fisher"
wrote:
>
> > I just noticed Yahoo took my Photo down. I thought it to be in
the
> public domain! In the vietnam war, the 9 year old girl burned by US
> napalm gas.
>
> Though I'm sure that that photo is copyrighted, I have a feeling
that
> is was removed because the child is not wearing any clothes.

I noticed the same in my group.  I had 108 "m" members and can only
access the first 103 when I hit next that page showed up as 0-0 of
108.

I did notice all the members were listed in order by their email
address all that started with M anyway. There were some members names
that didnt start with M but their email did.

BTW if the member does not reveal their email address in groups their
name still falls in the alpha order where it would be if it was
showing. Instead of the email for that person it shows the "Not
disclosed" disclaimer.

Another lovely yahoo glitch it appears.

Did you report this?   (your explanation was clear enough to me)


--- In GroupManagersForum@yahoogroups.com, g2baraff <no_reply@y...>
wrote:
> The problem is in accessing the list of members. Used to be that it
> behaved like one single long list, in that you could (if you had
> the time) keep clicking the "Next" button and go through that list from
> A to Z.  Of course, there were entry points along the bottom of the
> pages so that you could, for example, click on the letter "S" and
> the list would open up at the beginning of the "S" names.  And from
> there, you could click "Next" to go forward through the list, or
> click "Previous" to go back and see the end of the "R" names.


[Excessive quoting removed]

If this what I think it is - it's the most published and most recognized photo
of the Viet war - and a Pulitzer Prizer winner. The girl runs for her life as
napalm has burned her skin and clothes off.
  It may have been a copywrite violation - instead of the content. Although some
prudes may see just a naked girl - not the anguish and fear that captures the
war in a single photo.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In GroupManagersForum@yahoogroups.com, "Athena"
<cupid2000.athena@g...> wrote:
>
> Another lovely yahoo glitch it appears.
>
> Did you report this?   (your explanation was clear enough to me)
>
>             *************
No, I did not report this.  I am inexperienced in dealing with
Yahoo, even though I AM, in other respects, a pretty competent list
owner.

Thank you for your reply.  I had been starting to wonder if it was a
problem localized within my own browser.

Gene Baraff

seems recently I have many questions...here comes another one!

I just created a new yahoo e-mail account. Then I wanted to add this
adress to the yahoo account I am using now...a thing that should not
be hard to do.
I veryfied the accound...and went to "Add e-mail" entered the new
addy...and than clicked on edit and filled the new addy in
there...and all I got was an error notification that the addy I
wanted to add did not belong to a valid account.
But I can enter the account with PW and write and read mails froom
there...so it has to be valid.

Do i only have to wait a bit till yahoo regognizes the new account or
what did I do wrong here.


thanks for the answer

Dani

I am a member of a YGroup used for playing the game "risk" online. We have an
automated results generator which
sends the game results to the YGroup, and the players in the game are members of
the YGroup and get the results
through it.

Unfortunately the game results generator seems to have got blacklisted somehow:

and is receiving bounce messages similar to this:

################################################
We are unable to deliver the message from <server@...>
to <XXXXXXXX@yahoogroups.com>.

Your Yahoo! Groups account has been disabled because you had
an auto-responder set up.

For further assistance, please visit http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/

################################################

server@... has somehow been set to auto-responder status, we cannot
reset it and if it does get reset
we don't know how to stop it happening again.

We have found some automated form on the YGroups site but we are not sure
whether it will go to a human being or
an automated bot but we fear the latter.

Any suggestions welcome.

Thanks
Peter Richardson

It's definitely not just your browser, because I'm having the same problems
exactly, whether I use the Internet Explorer or Safari browser on my Mac.

on 12/3/04 9:50 AM, g2baraff at no_reply@yahoogroups.com wrote:

> --- In GroupManagersForum@yahoogroups.com, "Athena"
> <cupid2000.athena@g...> wrote:
>>
>> Another lovely yahoo glitch it appears.
>>
>> Did you report this?   (your explanation was clear enough to me)
>>
>>             *************
> No, I did not report this.  I am inexperienced in dealing with
> Yahoo, even though I AM, in other respects, a pretty competent list
> owner.
> Thank you for your reply.  I had been starting to wonder if it was a
> problem localized within my own browser.
>
> Gene Baraff

I realize that many bouncing members, when "normal" still remain in the bouncing
section, and have no "reactivate now" buttons.


Usually tho, they show up in active sooner or later...


now... the member listing shows us as having well over 4740 members, but the
home page and the My Groups page show us at only 4680 (and it doesn't appear to
be changing.  Does anyone know what's up with yahoo now?

Thanks!!

B S

Click on GMF's LINKS page... First link in first folder...

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GroupManagersForum/links

Click on the Yahoo Feedback Forms Folder link...

> Yahoo! Feedback! Forms!
> USE THESE INSTEAD OF EMAIL! For asking questions and reporting
> problems that aren't covered on the Help pages. Choose the form
> that best fits the subject area of your feedback.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GroupManagersForum/links/Yahoo__Feedback_Form_0010\
18963199/

Click on the very first link in the list on the resulting page:

> Group Preferences - Auto-Responder Reset Form
> Use this form to request that your account be reset from
> "auto-responder" status.
> http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/us/groups/cgi_mypreferences


Just use it. It works.

As always, reply to any nonsensical, quoting the entire original
and re-state your concern.  As Sheri likes to say, "Lather, rinse,
and repeat as needed."  Do NOT open a new report!


Mark
--
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Anti_Spyware


--- In GroupManagersForum@yahoogroups.com, "Peter J Richardson" wrote:
>
>
> ################################################
> We are unable to deliver the message from <server@p...>
> to <XXXXXXXX@yahoogroups.com>.
>
> Your Yahoo! Groups account has been disabled because you had
> an auto-responder set up.
>
>
> We have found some automated form on the YGroups site but we are
> not sure whether it will go to a human being or
> an automated bot but we fear the latter.
>
> Any suggestions welcome.
>

--- In GroupManagersForum@yahoogroups.com, "Daniela" <tarataysse@y...>
wrote:
> I just created a new yahoo e-mail account. Then I wanted to
> add this adress to the yahoo account I am using now.

You cannot add a yahoo email address to a yahoo account.

This is the message (in red) that I got across the top of
the page when I tried to add a yahoo email address to another
yahoo ID:

Please enter an email address not associated with an existing
Yahoo! account, or activate Yahoo! Mail for this new account.

So if I understood your question correctly, you were having
problems adding a yahoo.com address to another yahoo.com
account.  Simple answer, it can't be done.

Sheri

--- In GroupManagersForum@yahoogroups.com, Diane Allen
<DianeAllen@I...> wrote:
> It's definitely not just your browser, because I'm having the same
problems
> exactly, whether I use the Internet Explorer or Safari browser on
my Mac.
>
>
Thank you for the second confirmation.

Can you, or anyone else here, tell me what steps I should take to
report this problem to someone in Yahoo who might actually  be able
to fix it?

Gene Baraff

Hi,

I think it is another yahoo mistake...on various lists...mine as well
as others...there are upload problems...time outs, servers not found
(my PC doesn't find the "sfupld"server all of a sudden)  etc.  We are
all just keep on trying till yahoo permits us to upload again....
Anyone else experincing that? What is yahoo about now?

I reported that allready but am still struggeling with the automated
responses and I know that I am not patient enough to wait till I get
a real person on the line.

Thanks for reading and possible answers!

Dani

After following standard procedure for uploading files to my group,
i can not get it to work? even when I click on upload nothing
happens , only says done at bottom of screen?? Never uploads the
file, can anyone help? also having problem's with uploading pic's
for group members?? Appreciate any Help...Pawnee

I see you're using AOL.  Be sure you're not using AOL's built-in
custom version of Internet Exploder. Use the regular stand-alone IE
or dowload and install Firefox.

Make sure your file names have no spaces in them. While Windows and
Macs don't care about names like "Hi there its me.gif" it is NOT the
same as "Hi_there_its_me.gif" and Yahoo servers do not accept files
named that way.  Make sure your file names are correct format.

Make sure your file sizes are less than 5 megs and that your group's
file area is not closing in on its maximum size.  Even if you think
you're uploading under the total bytes allowed, it's still an inexact
approximation... close but not over may end up with an error instead
of upload success.


Mark
--
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Anti_Spyware/ has links to legit
spyware removal tools/

Unlike http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Anti-Spyware/ which exists to
promote links to bogus spyware removal tools.



--- In GroupManagersForum@yahoogroups.com, "pawneebaby" wrote:
>
>
> After following standard procedure for uploading files to my group,
> i can not get it to work? even when I click on upload nothing
> happens , only says done at bottom of screen?? Never uploads the
> file, can anyone help? also having problem's with uploading pic's
> for group members?? Appreciate any Help...Pawnee

All you can do is reply to the unhelpful replies, quoting and re-
explaining the problem. Be sure you include URLs to your group and
your group FILES page.  Be concise, but be clear.


Mark
--
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Anti_Spyware/
is NOT the same as the group posting referral links to
bogus spyware removal tools at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Anti-Spyware/



--- In GroupManagersForum@yahoogroups.com, "Daniela"
<tarataysse@y...> wrote:
>
>
>
> I think it is another yahoo mistake...on various lists...mine as
well
> as others...there are upload problems...time outs, servers not
found
> (my PC doesn't find the "sfupld"server all of a sudden)  etc.  We
are
> all just keep on trying till yahoo permits us to upload again....
> Anyone else experincing that? What is yahoo about now?
>

I'm sorry. It is GEOCITIES that forbids spaces in uploaded file
names. I always get this mixed up.

From the Geocities Uploads page at:
http://geocities.yahoo.com/v/ul.html

> Transfer files from your computer to your main directory with this
> simple tool.
>
> First click on Browse... to select files, then click Upload Files.
>
> Note: File names cannot contain spaces. The total upload can be up
> to 5MB.

[Note limitations do NOT apply when using FTP to upload.]

From Yahoo Groups help:

http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files/files-03.html

Each group has 20 megabytes server space allocated for Files. You can
upload any number of smaller files (up to the limit of 20 megabytes)
or a few larger files. Note, however, that each individual file you
upload has a 5 megabyte limit per upload. If you attempt to upload a
single file that is larger than the space remaining, or that is
larger than 5 megabytes, you will get an error.

Note: If your group fills up the space and you want to add more
files, you'll need to delete existing files. Or, you can use the
Links area to point to other locations on the Web where your group
stores files.

------

Considering Yahoo groups integration into other Yahoo services, it
might be better to err on side of caution and avoid use of spaces in
file uploading.

If spaces are the problem and their removal makes it work, would it
be easier to complain to Yahoo or just stop using spaces?


Mark
--
http://www.geocities.com/mark_e_p/stuff


--- In GroupManagersForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Scott"
<unifan2001@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In GroupManagersForum@yahoogroups.com, oldonliner wrote:
>
> Make sure your file names have no spaces in them. While Windows and
> Macs don't care about names like "Hi there its me.gif" it is NOT
> same as "Hi_there_its_me.gif" and Yahoo servers do not accept files
> named that way.
>
> Almost all the files I upload have spaces in the name. They work
> just fine (from the website)!

--- In GroupManagersForum@yahoogroups.com, oldonliner <no_reply@y...>
wrote:
> I'm sorry. It is GEOCITIES that forbids spaces in uploaded file
> names. I always get this mixed up.

Even though the Yahoo! Groups files areas do allow the uploading
of files with spaces in the name to the files area, I've had
problems in the past when trying to link to them even when using
the proper URL that's sent in the notification of a file upload.

Sheri

The general consensus from the various moderators lists that I sub to is
that it does no good at all to complain to Yahoo, that they don't provide
support because groups are a free service.

on 12/4/04 6:20 AM, g2baraff at no_reply@yahoogroups.com wrote:

> --- In GroupManagersForum@yahoogroups.com, Diane Allen
> <DianeAllen@I...> wrote:
>> It's definitely not just your browser, because I'm having the same
> problems
>> exactly, whether I use the Internet Explorer or Safari browser on
> my Mac.
>>
>>
> Thank you for the second confirmation.
>
> Can you, or anyone else here, tell me what steps I should take to
> report this problem to someone in Yahoo who might actually  be able
> to fix it?
>

Same problem here. No spaces or "illegal" characters in filename, file
is under 5MB, enough space in the file section of the group. Upload
seems to fail at around the 1MB mark.

Error is "cannot find server" or "connection refused by remote server"
depending on the browser used to upload.

Any ideas? Is this something deliberate by Yahoo...?

--- In GroupManagersForum@yahoogroups.com, "pawneebaby" <pawneebaby@y.
..> wrote:
>
>
> After following standard procedure for uploading files to my group,
> i can not get it to work? even when I click on upload nothing
> happens , only says done at bottom of screen?? Never uploads the
> file, can anyone help? also having problem's with uploading pic's
> for group members?? Appreciate any Help...Pawnee

--- In GroupManagersForum@yahoogroups.com, "SaltMunkey"  wrote:
>
>
> Same problem here. No spaces or "illegal" characters in filename,
> file is under 5MB, enough space in the file section of the group.
> Upload seems to fail at around the 1MB mark.
>
> Error is "cannot find server" or "connection refused by remote
> server" depending on the browser used to upload.
>
> Any ideas? Is this something deliberate by Yahoo...?
>

Are you running any "web accelerator" enhancement?  You know... the
snake oils advertised in stuff from AOL, Netzero, Earthlink, and so
on...  Also applies to third-party add-on "download accelerators"
(like the spyware-laden DAP.EXE) and so on... Besides being mostly
snake-oil, these applets play havok with uploading and downloading
esp. archives (.ZIP), and script or CGI-based files.  HP's support
pages tell people to disable this snake-oil before downloading any
support or driver update files.

Have you checked your PC for spyware, malware, adware, hijackers,
trojans and other pests?

What programs are you running in background when this happens? Are
you running more than one Yahoo login at the same time?  (Like Yahoo!
Messenger on ID/password login yaboohoo_1 while IE is uploading on a
completely different ID/password - yaboohoo_2?)

What browser are you running?  Is it only in Mozilla/Firefox?  Is it
IE?  What version?  What plug-ins or BHOs is it infested with?

Is the file in use by another program on your PC?  (IOW... Do you
have it open in PhotoShop, PhotoDraw or some other editor while
trying to upload it to your group?

Is it an animated .GIF file?  (For use as group image?)  Besides not
being allowed in the PHOTOS area of a group, Yahoo servers, when
saving any GIF, increase their size by huge proportions. A 1 meg
animated GIF from your local PC will baloon to over EIGHT TIMES
that size when saved by Yahoo's servers!!! We've mentioned this
before - as far back as 2001 - nothing's changed as far as Yahoo's
saving of GIFs - they are still HUGE.  Why?  Thejackofclubs once
speculated that Yahoo refuses to pay the royalty fees needed to
save and server COMPRESSED GIF files. (Old story... look up Unisys
and GIF on Google.)

I think the above makes it abundantly clear why most places, Yahoo
included, find diagnosing usage problems difficult if not impossible.

It might be new -unpublished- Yahoo limits?  It might be you're
trying to upload an infected file or a file that may be tagged as
suspicious?  (Don't expect Yahoo to publish limits since the bots
used by abusers, scammers and spammers will take whatever value is
published, subtract a small increment and spew forth their crap.)
Don't blame or complain about any responsible free site for not
publishing its limits.

Of course, after all that and more, it could just be a Yahoo server
hicupping at an inopportune time.

When it comes to FREE services like Y!Groups, it is YOUR
responsibility to eliminate local problems BEFORE contacting the
service host. And when you do contact Yahoo for help, it is again
YOUR responsibility to contact the correct area and clearly,
accurately, and politely articulate and explain the problem.

Use the CORRECT web form - DO NOT USE EMAIL - to initiate the report.

Start by clicking on the first folder listed here to find one:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GroupManagersForum/links .

In your case, that sounds like:
http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/us/groups/cgi_files .

After (or if) Yahoo replies (by email and hope yout mail doesn't send
it to a spam folder!), reply to that reply, restating/clarifying your
problem AND quoting - in its entirety - the email reply you got from
Yahoo.

Good luck.

Anti-Spyware tips sheet:

http://www.geocities.com/mark_e_p/stuff/antispyware.htm

Free Image viewer / converter (just say NO to the eBay crap!):
http://www.irfanview.com .


Mark
--
Due to spyware/adware/malware/etc. infestations, our store no longer
performs PC upgrades and diagnostic services. It's too much a Pandora's
box.  {Who has NEVER had to reinstall Winblows to fix a software problem.)
"Defrag" - the most useless and overused word on PC tech help forums.
Defrag has never solved a single PC or Windows problem, but it does
frequently cause them.

I'm betting the person concerned has 56KB line. Right?

There is a time limit on file movement on Yahoo! If you don't get it done in
that limit, you are cut off. The limit is such that you can move just a bit
more than 1 MB at 56KB without getting just down. (The limit is about 1.5 MB
but 1 MB is a safe guide line.)

There are file splitting programs out there. They are free and easy to use.
However, they are a support nightmare. (You have to explain their use, how
to get them, etc. Notice I'm NOT offereing details:-))))

More to the point, Do you have the right to post the 5 MB file? If so,
that's a lot of creative effort on your part and you are to be
congratulated. Remember, the essense of the copyright law is that if you
didn't create it you have no right to copy or distrubute it. (Yes there are
certain very narrowly defined exceptions, but treat this as the general
principle.)

Regards,
Al


----- Original Message -----
From: "SaltMunkey" <saltmunkey@...>
To: <GroupManagersForum@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 10:32 AM
Subject: [GMF] Re: Upload files to group


>
>
>
> Same problem here. No spaces or "illegal" characters in filename, file
> is under 5MB, enough space in the file section of the group. Upload
> seems to fail at around the 1MB mark.
>
> Error is "cannot find server" or "connection refused by remote server"
> depending on the browser used to upload.
>
> Any ideas? Is this something deliberate by Yahoo...?
>
> --- In GroupManagersForum@yahoogroups.com, "pawneebaby" <pawneebaby@y.
> ..> wrote:
>>
>>
>> After following standard procedure for uploading files to my group,
>> i can not get it to work? even when I click on upload nothing
>> happens , only says done at bottom of screen?? Never uploads the
>> file, can anyone help? also having problem's with uploading pic's
>> for group members?? Appreciate any Help...Pawnee

--- In GroupManagersForum@yahoogroups.com, "Al" <al@c...> wrote:
>
> I'm betting the person concerned has 56KB line. Right?
>
> There is a time limit on file movement on Yahoo! If you don't get
> it done in that limit, you are cut off. The limit is such that you
> can move just a bit more than 1 MB at 56KB without getting just
> down. (The limit is about 1.5 MB but 1 MB is a safe guide line.)
>

Let me translate what Al is saying here.  You're uploading into a
transient (TEMP) space on a server.  From that space, the file is
permanently saved ("moved" is how Al put it) by Yahoo. On most
servers, this would occur when the upload is complete. Al is saying
that this "movement" must occur in a given time frame or Yahoo's
server gives up and renders you an error.  If you are working with
a large enough file, OR a slow enough upload speed, this frequently
occurs at around the 1 megabyte point.

And it does appear that "SaltMunkey" is on some kind of caching ISP
server/router.  Interesting traceroute result on your originating IP.

62.252.32.11  = cdif-cache-1.server.ntli.net

As Al mentions, work with smaller files.  Yahoo Groups is much less
than ideal when used as a file trading venue.


Mark
--
Who recommends http://www.webshots.com/ for photo sharing.


>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "SaltMunkey" <saltmunkey@y...>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Same problem here. No spaces or "illegal" characters in filename, file
> > is under 5MB, enough space in the file section of the group. Upload
> > seems to fail at around the 1MB mark.
> >
> > Error is "cannot find server" or "connection refused by remote server"
> > depending on the browser used to upload.
> >
> > Any ideas? Is this something deliberate by Yahoo...?

<< The general consensus from the various moderators lists that I sub
to is that it does no good at all to complain to Yahoo, that they
don't provide support because groups are a free service. >>

True, it's a free service. But that's because it's advertising
supported. It's reasonable to assume that advertisers would like to
advertise to a group of "happy campers" rather than to a bunch of
prospects who are feeling disgruntled, upset, ignored, frustrated, or
maybe even angry. In business, it's been shown consistently that
companies who really EMPHASIZE keeping their customers happy, do
better.

A good example of that in the tech field is Dell. I've subscribed to
PC Magazine for a LONG time. In recent years Dell has been at the TOP
of the PC Magazine customer satisfaction ratings, consistently. The
data is gathered from PC Magazine readers. Is it just a coincidence
that Dell is also so successful as a business? I sure don't think so.

Another tech field example WAS WordPerfect. When they had a first
class customer service department they were in very close touch with
their customers. They got direct feedback from their customers
regarding what was needed and wanted. In Word Processing, they
were "king of the hill". Then new owners (Novelle)came along and they
abandoned the "stay close to your customers" strategy and WP tumbled
down the hill.

So I believe that if Yahoo were to make listening to their customers
and RESPONDING to their customers' quality complaints a priority,
then Yahoo, their advertisers, and Yahoo forum customers would all
end up being much happier.

Rich in Minnesota USA
http://www.alternative-health-answers.info/meet-Rich.html