storeonwheels,

>I type in Italian for the word I'm looking for in my group, but
>nothing shows up. I have an Italian Group. How can I get this
>feature to work? Did I shut it off?

The message search feature has been broken for some time now.
<http://www.ygroupsblog.com/blog/2009/03/17/groups-search-update/>

-- Shal

[OLDONLINER: I tried again, still does not work for me - I cannot drag any of
the Groups at all any more. It may have something to do with the number of
Groups I am member  of (lots ;-)]

[Mod note: Just went and tested this at http://groups.yahoo.com/ and
it worked without issues. Scroll down, click "Organize" and drag and
release and then hit Save Changes.]


The  MyGroups list on
http://groups.yahoo.com/
has been broken for some time.  I believe I have already mentioned this at GMF,
but cannot find it here with  Message Search.

Anyway, this is a fairly major annoyance for me, and for others who are no-email
members at YG.  In order to participate in discussions at several Groups,  I
need  the ability to sort my Groups dynamically. But this feature is not working
at YG, even though it does not show up  on the issues* list at:
http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/ownmod/index.html

Apparently it is not considered as a top priority for the YG team, so it won't
be fixed anytime soon:
http://suggestions.yahoo.com/detail/?prop=groups&fid=173014

Sigh…

* Top Known Issues
• The name listed as Author when I post a message from my group website has
changed - why?
• When I post a message to my group I'm getting a pop-up about sharing my
updates and I can't get past it - why?
• The member information on the Members page in my group is blank - why?
• I'm experiencing issues with the Message Search feature.
• My polls are not automatically closing.
• Why aren't my files being auto delivered?
• My group was mistakenly moved behind the adult wall when the group has no
adult content.

Cheers, oth
---
GMF Links > YG Suggestion Board > *other Group related suggestions
http://preview.tinyurl.com/y9333h8

We're back on this topic !!!

Hopefully some YG Tech will note and read their Customer Care messages....

I'm unable to access my homepage or any individual homepages. Period !!

Anyone else???



[Mod note: From GMF LINKS Page, quoting former Y!Engineer: "If you're refreshing
Yahoo! pages a lot - a LOT - I'm talking hundreds of pages per hour - the Yahoo!
servers will start getting concerned that you're trying to a Denial-of-Service
attack, meaning that you're purposely taking up bandwidth so that other Yahoo!
users can't use the site. When that happens, you get an Error 999 and you'll not
be able to access the site for an hour or so. After time passes, you're able to
access Yahoo! in your usual way."]

I type in Italian for the word I'm looking for in my group, but nothing shows
up. I have an Italian Group. How can I get this feature to work? Did I shut it
off?

--- In GroupManagersForum@yahoogroups.com, cntnuumx@... wrote:

> . . . This will take you to where you can scroll down to step #2 and simply
> change it to "Daily Digest".

Daily digest is a good choice. Weekly isn't an option. You can also use Grouply
to fetch your messages, but I don't like multi-purpose social networking sites
all that much. Perhaps I haven't used them enough to feel comfortable with them,
but I see security issues in the news from time to time on the big social
networking sites.

Grouply gives group managers some nice tools, though, all in one place.

Another option, if you want to keep your inbox clean, is to just set yourself to
no mail and read all messages online, or set to no mail and use PG Offline
reader, which is easy to use, or one of the open source tools (that are
difficult at best to set up) to do your message gathering separate from your
inbox.

One more option you might consider is to set up your email so that message
filters put messages from GMF into a folder called GMF, messages from group2
into a folder named group2, etc. That way you get to those messages when YOU
want to and don't have to work around them to read the "important" messages in
your inbox from friends, relatives, banks, etc.

Donald

--- In GroupManagersForum@yahoogroups.com, "foodiesleuth" <cubanwahine@...>
wrote:
>
>...
>
> All anyone gets is an error page that says:
> The webpage cannot be found
> DNS error occurred. Server cannot be found. The link may be broken.
>
> Is there any other way to share links to the group files that will take the
reader direct to the particular file?
>
>

Using a file in the Files section of this group, if I open the file and copy the
URL from the browser, I get something like this:

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/UDn-Sip69T2_e1NR33nxy-jvRrmeIQpY7BYzarXxwBfWeimo0CF\
Di2UHn5LqPxa86yMKpuBRpzVc69va0nXca36DPHTD58lg3B4AQg/Helps/Hosts.000

This is dynamically generated from a database. It will NOT find the file, ever
again.

Instead, you have to add the filename to the URL for the folder, like this:
folder
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GroupManagersForum/files/Helps/
filename   Hosts.000

Resulting URL
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GroupManagersForum/files/Helps/Hosts.000>

If there is a space in the filename it must be replaced with %20

>For features for a group, one would like them to consider adding?

<http://suggestions.yahoo.com/?prop=groups>

Hi, Yuh . . . go to the link at the bottom of this message where it says
"Visit My Group".  This will take you to GMF home page.

Presuming you are signed into Yahoo, select "Edit Membership" (to the
right of "Group Member -") just above the GMF banner and below the banner
on the upper left side of the page.

This will take you to where you can scroll down to step #2 and simply
change it to "Daily Digest".

Linda
;~)


> Hi,
>
> Can I change my settings to this group just to get a weekly digest or to
> not get emails.  I don't have time to read all the posts and would greatly
> appreciate just to be able to view it when I have time.
>
> Thanks
> Yuh
>
>

You need set your membership to be notified when a new file is added to your
group, you will get that notice to your e-mail that will then contain the link
you need to use that will work correctly.

james

--- In GroupManagersForum@yahoogroups.com, "foodiesleuth" <cubanwahine@...>
wrote:
>
>
> I posted links on an ADMIN notice in my Freecycle group directing members to a
particular file using two systems:
>
> 1- Copy and paste and highlight the name of the file attaching the link to it
> and
> 2- Copying & pasting the link itself direct from the file using the Rich-Text
Editor tools but neither system works.
>
> All anyone gets is an error page that says:
> The webpage cannot be found
> DNS error occurred. Server cannot be found. The link may be broken.
>
> Is there any other way to share links to the group files that will take the
reader direct to the particular file?
>
> Sonia
>

For features for a group, one would like them to consider adding?

Thanks, I will have to save your post and practice it a bit -  although I can't
understand WHY Yahoo can't just generate the same file URL for the proper
file..... or maybe that's too simple?

Sonia



oldonliner <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Those links are "dynamic", they are generated by Yahoo servers at
> time of use, and will soon expire. On the plus side, during their
> brief life, those links work for NON members, too.
>
> What you need to use is the "static" link to the file(s), one that
> never changes and works only for members. That link exists and you
> can "construct" if you understand the syntax. (And here is a good
> place to mention that this is easier to do when your the files in
> your Group's Files area and the Folders in the Group's Files area
> do NOT contain spaces in their names.)

Hello,

I have created some files to be sent to new members upon joining and upon
pending memberships. The file upon "pending membership" gets delivered, but the
files "upon joining" don't reach the members. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

Regards
Yana

Those links are "dynamic", they are generated by Yahoo servers at
time of use, and will soon expire. On the plus side, during their
brief life, those links work for NON members, too.

What you need to use is the "static" link to the file(s), one that
never changes and works only for members. That link exists and you
can "construct" if you understand the syntax. (And here is a good
place to mention that this is easier to do when your the files in
your Group's Files area and the Folders in the Group's Files area
do NOT contain spaces in their names.)

Using GMF as example:

The "dynamic" URL, generated on the fly by Yahoo Groups servers, and
pointing to GMF's New members info message, looks like this garbage:

<http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/QEr9SnLxPUUJO4fDzOX7FrUplxAuuMtfY9IyHcMnLjG0Z8dVDi\
XANoqQU7QfyYpHmDO7u6yaauKk7Em9l9WU/Group_Files/GMF_Information.txt>

The "static" URL to that same file, looks like:

<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GroupManagersForum/files/Group_Files/GMF_Informat\
ion.txt>

You will note how the ending path matches in both URLs - that's the
folder name and the file name. The first part is made from the usual
path to the group's file page. You need to edit a URL to merge them,
thusly:

Take the left column - Files link:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/GroupManagersForum/files

and then you add /folder and file name to it:

/Group_Files/GMF_Information.txt

and, to shorten it, remove the prefix "tech" (in this case, it is
never necessary), to get a nice, short and permanent URL:

<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GroupManagersForum/files/Group_Files/GMF_Informat\
ion.txt>

which always works and will never expire.



--- In GroupManagersForum@yahoogroups.com, "foodiesleuth" wrote:
>
>
> I posted links on an ADMIN notice in my Freecycle group directing
> members to a particular file using two systems:
>
> 1- Copy and paste and highlight the name of the file attaching the
> link to it and
> 2- Copying & pasting the link itself direct from the file using the
> Rich-Text Editor tools but neither system works.
>
> All anyone gets is an error page that says:
> The webpage cannot be found
> DNS error occurred. Server cannot be found. The link may be broken.
>
> Is there any other way to share links to the group files that will
> take the reader direct to the particular file?
>
> Sonia
>

Eric,

> If you're talking about the messages that you see on your group's
> front page when you first visit your group, then you don't need to
> worry. Non-members don't see any of those messages that you see. Only
> members see them.

Just a word of caution about generalizing.

Not all Yahoo Groups are set up with members-only Message Archives. GMF is proud
to be visible to anyone who is interested in content posted here: you are not
requird to be a Group member nor a Yahoo member to read messages posted here.

GMF also offers a public Links section that is available to any interested
reader.

Cheers, oth
---
Recent changes at Yahoo
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ybpflkn

Yuh,

If you're talking about the messages that you see on your group's front page
when you first visit your group, then you don't need to worry. Non-members don't
see any of those messages that you see. Only members see them.

Eric
-------

> I am a fairly new group owner. Can you please tell me how do I change the
front view settings for non-members so they cannot view our messages?
>
> Thanks
> Yuh
>

I posted links on an ADMIN notice in my Freecycle group directing members to a
particular file using two systems:

1- Copy and paste and highlight the name of the file attaching the link to it
and
2- Copying & pasting the link itself direct from the file using the Rich-Text
Editor tools but neither system works.

All anyone gets is an error page that says:
The webpage cannot be found
DNS error occurred. Server cannot be found. The link may be broken.

Is there any other way to share links to the group files that will take the
reader direct to the particular file?

Sonia

--- In GroupManagersForum@yahoogroups.com, ottawahitech <no_reply@...> wrote:

> Where did you  see this promise?


Not sure. It might have been from someone on the Yahoo team. It may have been
elsewhere. I do remember it, though, since that's something I wished they did.
Not that I need a poll right now, but just in case I want to sometime in the
future.

As I said, I wouldn't count on it anyway.

Don

Don,

> Let's not forget that Yahoo as promised to make polls available to
> even those groups that allow hiding email addresses, and it's
> supposed to be done this year.  :-)

Where did you  see this promise?

Cheers, oth
---
Read what people are saying about their lost GeoCities sites
http://www.reocities.com/guestbook/

Go to:
Management

Group settings/MESSAGES

POSTING & ARCHIVES (EDIT)

ARCHIVE/Settings

Settings choices = Anyone, Members, Moderators or OFF
(I recommend MODERATORS so you can see them and no one else can)

SAVE CHANGES
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Other changes:
Go to:
Management
Web Tools
Web tools under group settings
Web tools EDIT
Set the way you want
SAVE CHANGES
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I've had a couple years now of moderating or owning groups, YUH.  Hail me
anytime!

Donna Rae



----- Original Message -----
From: "yuh"


>
> I am a fairly new group owner. Can you please tell me how do I change the
front view settings for non-members so they cannot view our messages?
>

Hi,

I am a fairly new group owner. Can you please tell me how do I change the front
view settings for non-members so they cannot view our messages?

Thanks
Yuh

--- In GroupManagersForum@yahoogroups.com, Shal Farley <shalf@...> wrote:


> There is also a consequence to the group: the option is irreversible and it
disables the Poll feature. But if you don't need polls in your group that's of
little consequence.
>
> -- Shal
>

Let's not forget that Yahoo as promised to make polls available to even those
groups that allow hiding email addresses, and it's supposed to be done this
year.  :-)

I don't believe their going to do that, at least not this year, considering all
the problems they've had with other things, but that would be nice.

But for now, I would consider it as Shal said, irreversible.

Don

Liz,

>In our joke group, we go to a lot of trouble to keep anyone's address from
showing. We moderate every post (for content, too) & delete the poster's e-mail
address & any other addresses or signatures.
>...
>But when someone is on daily digest, the poster's address is shown!

I would expect them to be in the Individual messages too, but no matter.

A much easier way for you to avoid displaying email addresses is to allow
members to hide their email address, then make it a group rule that they must do
so. Here in GMF we allow it, but don't require it.

When a member opts to hide their email address (in a group that allows it) their
email address is /completely/ hidden -- not available in even to the group
owners. A consequence is that the member must post from the Group's "Post" link,
in the left column, they may not post by email.

There is also a consequence to the group: the option is irreversible and it
disables the Poll feature. But if you don't need polls in your group that's of
little consequence.

-- Shal

Nik,

>Also, for backup purposes, I would like to save data from time to time.
>However, I don't see any option to export data (table).
>
>Am I missing something or it's like that by design?

An export (and import) feature is missing, but not by design. It simply hasn't
been implemented yet.
<http://suggestions.yahoo.com/detail/?prop=groups&fid=139869>

-- Shal

Thanks Shal,

That's a good idea, but I've already checked that and no messages are bouncing
or pending...not for me or anyone. They just aren't being sent sometimes, and
there's no apparent rhyme or reason for it.

Regards,
Steve


[Mod note: Can't recall seeing anyone mention this. Be sure you check
your email service's spam or bulk folder for the missing messages.
Also check the filter settings to see if spam is deleted instead of
moved to a spam-trapping folder. If retrieving via client, you may
need to look at the web-based email to see spam folder content (e.g.
Gmail's service, or ISPs like Charter, Cox and so on).]


--- In GroupManagersForum@yahoogroups.com, Shal Farley wrote:
>
> >- Group members send messages to the group.
> >- The messages get delivered inconsistently to all members, i.e:
> >...
> >--- all the messages sent to the group are archived correctly on the
Yahoogroup site.
>
> For yourself, and some other affected members, click on the pencil icon ("Edit
Membership") on their entry on your group's Members list. Use the "View History"
link to see what Yahoo has logged.
>
> If you find recent messages among the "Recent Bounced Messages" list then you
know what happened: the member's email service rejected the message or couldn't
be reached by Yahoo's server.
>
> For the Last Bounced Message there's a report of just what happened when Yahoo
attempted to deliver that message.
>
> If there's a pattern among these reports that may give us a clue as to the
underlying problem.
>

Steve: Followed up with Customer Care, and they have been replying to your
contacts. But my guess is that the same thing that is happening to some of the
messages from your group is happening to the Customer Care emails: your ISP is
bouncing them.

Remember that everyone can check their bounce history here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/member/preferences/communication/bounce_history?email=PU\
T_YOUR_EMAIL_ADDRESS_HERE

Meanwhile, given the way our system is architected, here is a good rule of thumb
to keep in mind if you're not getting messages:
- If the problem is affecting every member of the group (i.e. the messages are
making it into the archive but no one is receiving them via emai), then the
problem is almost certainly on our end.
- On the other hand, if it's only you who is not getting the messages (or just
you and a few other group members), the problem is almost certainly your ISP
bouncing the messages (or spam filtering or just dropping them). In this
situation, your best bet is to start with your ISP or mail client's Customer
Support.

Thanks,

- Gordon
Yahoo! Groups

--- In GroupManagersForum@yahoogroups.com, steve_lingo <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> All, let me attempt to be REALLY CLEAR as this thread keeps going around and
around with no apparent solution (and no replies from Yahoo Support) :-(
>
> PROBLEM:
> - A group members send messages to the group.
> - The messages get delivered inconsistantly to all members, i.e:
> --- sometimes ALL members get a message succussfully.
> --- sometimes SOME members do not get a message.
> --- but they WILL get subsequent group messages.
> --- so it's not always the same people that don't get the messages.
> --- all the messages sent to the group are archived correctly on the
Yahoogroup site. (which is how I, as a moderator, learn that I've not received
SOME messages...if find them when I've logged into the group to do some admin
tasks).
>
> SUMMARY: I get MOST messages, but somoetimes SOME messages do not get
delivered to my email address. This same problem affects others in our group.
It's inconsistant.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Steve

I type in Italian for the word I'm looking for in my group, but nothing shows
up. I have an Italian Group. How can I get this feature to work? Did I shut it
off?

To find out from where IP address has been originated you can try this link
http://www.geektools.com/whois.php

Thank you

--- In GroupManagersForum@yahoogroups.com, c70 <candyg70@...> wrote:
>
> Yes this is what happened to me. I have a group of moderatoers whewre we just
yak and occassionally help if a problem arises. I had a major problem I posted
it *yeah I showed the actual email I got -it was very bad*
>  I had a member go balisitic because I was asking for help. you gotta tell
/show the problem so others know what is actually happening and maybe offer some
ideas.
> IMO people just donot realize this is very much out there.
> the IP comes from Africa so it is possible they are using a fake emailer with
a re router system.
> but yes nmoderating yourself should help.
>
>
> --- On Tue, 11/10/09, Jasminecorp <jasminecorpstore@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Jasminecorp <jasminecorpstore@...>
> Subject: [GMF] Some one is using my yahoo ID to Post porn messages in Groups
> To: GroupManagersForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 4:43 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Here is the IP address 41.191.16.66 with this IP address someone is posting
porn mails using my Yahoo ID in Yahoo groups. What should I do? Any help would
be appreciated. On searching this IP leads to this site aradb.com.
>
> [Mod note: It's called "spoofing" and it's common and easy. The only
> effective defense is moderate yourself or change the email address you
> use as a member of those groups.]
>

Hi,

I would like to collect various contact details from my group members
and share them with other moderators, and instead of plain database, I
would like to use applications, as they have more form-creating options.
Therefore I choose Address book and adjusted it (created some extra
fields etc.).

As I have to do some math operations on the fields (count and sum), I
need to export that address book from time to time (it would be nice if
it's possible to sum in the application).

Also, for backup purposes, I would like to save data from time to time.
However, I don't see any option to export data (table).

Am I missing something or it's like that by design?

In database I can export data, but I cannot add several phone numbers in
a single record (apps form have a + feature so user can add extra fields
for extra data)

Any idea?
Nik