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#1634 From: "Abram Karl-Gruswitz" <abe@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 9:43 pm
Subject: NW NJ Ecovillage Gathering - showing Visions of Utopia
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Please join us on Sunday, November 22nd at 1:00pm.  The NWNJ
Ecovillage group will be showing the first part of the Geoph
Kozenzy documentary, Visions of Utopia.  Geoph was an active
member of both the Fellowship for Intentional Communities and the
Federation of Egalitarian Communities.  The film follows 18
varying intentional communities throughout the world.

Intentional communities, as the name suggests, are communities of
people who have come together to live with a common vision.
Today many of us are looking for ways to bring more community
into our lives.  This documentary showcases some extraordinary
visions of 'ordinary' people and tells their stories of living
and working together to build a better world.   The documentary
follows examples of cohousing communities, spiritual communities,
communes, housing cooperatives, activist communities, and
ecovillages.

Visions of Utopia is 3 1/2 hours long - we will show the first
half this month.  This is a great opportunity to get to know
others looking for community and to familiarize yourself with
various types in intentional communities.  Following the movie,
we will talk about the NW NJ Ecovillage group, which plans to
grow within Sussex County, NJ.  We will discuss the vision for
the ecovillage, our history, what being a co-organizer of the
project entails, and our plans for the near future.  Please RSVP
to abe@... for location and directions.

Please bring some food to share - utensils, cups and plates will
be provided.

Peace,

Abe Karl-Gruswitz
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Abe Karl-Gruswitz
973-786-5396
abe@...
The Emerson Lily Free School
www.emersonlilyfreeschool.org
The Ecovillage New Jersey project
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EcovillageNWNJ

"...if you hyperexploit your surroundings you will deplete them and die;
the only way to survive in the long run is to give back more than you take."
Derrick Jensen



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#1633 From: Max Stein <professor.stein@...>
Date: Tue Oct 6, 2009 10:52 pm
Subject: Re: Preston Hollow Land Collective
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Any update since the meeting of 9/15?

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Max Stein <professor.stein@...> wrote:
> I'm working during the meeting in Brooklyn but I am very interested in
> this. How to stay involved?
>
> Max
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Abram
> Karl-Gruswitz<abe@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Nope, I haven't been to Epworth in years. I was just thinking
>> about some of those Hudson Valley Ecovillage meetings there. I
>> was remembering some people that showed up a little and feeling
>> bad about my bad memory with names, and was thinking it would
>> have been cool to keep in contact. I remember Kevin bringing his
>> friend Brad Will with him one time, and he struck me hard but
>> indescriptively. I thought I had known him. It was great going
>> the meetings with my brother Nik, thinking it would be so cool to
>> be part of an ecovillage with him. Pretty cool people. The
>> organizing was quite chaotic, maybe largely because of the
>> popularity and large groups that came, but the people were always
>> quite cool.
>>
>> Peace,
>>
>> Abe
>>
>> On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:39 -0400, Oasis654@... wrote:
>>
>> hi abe,? would like to visit your nj eco village too.? so to get
>> in touch with the preston hollow people i guess i call the tel
>> no. that was on bottom of letter.? have you gotten to epworth
>> anymore?? peace, geo
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Abram Karl-Gruswitz <[1]abe@...
>>>
>> To: Hudson Valley Ecovillage <[2]HVEcovillage@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Thu, Sep 3, 2009 4:46 pm
>> Subject: Re: [HVEcovillage] Preston Hollow Land Collective
>> Hi Geo,
>> Yeah, you have had the pleasure of meeting me :) How are 'ya?
>> I'm not involved with Preston Hollow. . . just passing on the
>> word. I'm starting an ecovillage in NW NJ.
>> Peace,
>> Abe
>> On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:17 -0400, [3]Oasis654@... wrote:
>> hi folks,? i'm very interested in your preston hollow ideas. abe,
>> i think we met at epworth permy course.? are you meeting up here
>> for open house, or just in brooklyn?? i'm near albany.? thanks,
>> geo
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Abram Karl-Gruswitz <[1][4]abe@...
>>>
>> To: Hudson Valley Ecovillage <[2][5]HVEcovillage@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Wed, Sep 2, 2009 8:57 pm
>> Subject: Re: [HVEcovillage] Preston Hollow Land Collective
>> Oh, nuts. I've never tried to send a message from facebook to
>> email before. I didn't know what it would end up like.
>> Here's the message. . .
>> Are you looking to live more sustainably? Do your passions
>> include gardening, fermentation, wildcrafting, natural building,
>> reforestation, caring for animals and educating/learning from
>> others? Would you like a cheap and easy way to start your own
>> sustainable business?
>> The Preston Hollow Land Collective offers participants a way to
>> make all those things possible. We are currently looking for new
>> members who want to be a part of our growing network of cottage
>> industries, teachers and craftspeople. We aim to experiment with
>> new methods of trade that promote locally-based, small-scale
>> products and services. The idea sounds big, but with the right
>> people, it is VERY doable.
>> BACKGROUND
>> * The Land: Situated on a beautiful 110-acre south-facing slope
>> 30 miles south of Albany, Preston Hollow has the potential to
>> become a vibrant community of landscape designers, artisans and
>> entrepreneurs whose purpose is to care for and rehabilitate the
>> Earth while building a sustainable economic model around
>> small-scale agriculture and craft. Currently, we have one house,
>> a few barns and an old production apple orchard with mint,
>> oregano and raspberries growing wild underneath. The property is
>> bordered by a creek and there is access to 2 additional natural
>> water sources (a spring and a well). There are 4-5 large fields
>> that have most likely been terra-formed by loggers and the wooded
>> area is still young (and in need of some tender love and care as
>> well). The house is situated in the center of the town of Preston
>> Hollow (pop: 1,000) and goes back over a mile up the mountain.
>> For pictures of the location, send an email to the address below.
>> * The Organization: We have signed a long-term lease with the
>> landowner with the rights to develop this land as a permaculture
>> site. In lieu of this, we are looking to build our network of
>> permaculture enthusiasts who can invest their
>> time/energy/resources into a cooperative means of subsistence
>> over the course of the next few years.
>> CONCEPT
>> * How it works: Co-op members can be invested in this project in
>> a variety of ways. They can choose to participate with either a
>> full-time or part-time presence on the land by proposing a
>> project based on permaculture principles that could eventually
>> bring them enough income to cover their cost of living. The co-op
>> will offer 110% support for individuals with ambitious plans for
>> their craft or farm-based product by way of fund-raising,
>> marketing and general labor. A full-time presence on the land
>> would require a genuine commitment to communal living and pooling
>> resources. Members can also opt for a part-time presence on the
>> land if their project does not require constant attention or
>> isn't necessarily meant to bring in revenue. For example,
>> Brooklyn artists could use some of the barns as a studio space
>> (and possibly a show-room), which would bring diversity,
>> creativity and new skills into the community, and/or a member
>> could keep beehives on the property and come to collect the
>> honey/check on the hives once a month. There are many ways to be
>> involved.
>> * Example of this model: Part of this land will be used to grow
>> organic heirloom vegetables for seed by one member of the co-op
>> for retail, who will then give the flesh of the vegetables to
>> another member invested in canning/preserves/fermentation. Both
>> members will make money off of their product, but essentially
>> share the overhead. Others may choose to invest in livestock,
>> bees, mushrooms, compost and/or edible perennials to produce
>> their own value-added products, though our system will be
>> fully-integrated throughout. Some could even run workshops, host
>> events, retreats and/or work to rehabilitate the 55 forested
>> acres along the creek. All fees are negotiable and the co-op
>> itself exists as a way for people with similar interest to split
>> the operational costs of their passions.
>> OBJECTIVES
>> * The overall vision for the organization is to stack as many
>> mutually beneficial functions (social and physical) as possible
>> on one piece of land that could draw small amounts of revenue to
>> the individual invested in them, but add to the abundance of the
>> greater community.
>> * We aim to build community, food security and experiment with a
>> truly sustainable economic model.
>> * The parameters of this Collective will all be determined
>> democratically by the members -- therefore, before we make up any
>> more rules, we need members! :-)
>> HOW TO GET INVOLVED
>> * Contact Mihail Kossev at [3][6]mihail.kossev@... /
>> 732-492-6001
>> * Attend our informational gathering...
>> TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 15th 2009 at 7pm
>> @ UNNAMEABLE BOOKS
>> 600 Vanderbilt Ave in Brooklyn, NY
>> Take the B,Q to 7th ave - 2,3 to Bergen - A,C,G to
>> Clinton-Washington
>> * then contact Mihail anyway to RSVP :-)
>> FOOD AND DRINKS AVAILABLE (so come with empty stomachs!) --
>> DONATIONS WELCOME
>> The possibilities are endless and the timing is right!
>> --
>> Home Harvest / Edible Landscapes
>> 602 Vanderbilt Ave, 3rd Floor
>> Brooklyn, NY 11238
>> (732) 492-6001
>> www.ediblelandscaper.com
>> On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:53 -0700, "Abe Karl-Gruswitz"
>> <[4][7]abe@...> wrote:
>> Abe sent [1]hvecovillage@yahoogroups.
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>> -------------------------------------------------------
>> Abe Karl-Gruswitz
>> 973-786-5396
>> [31][33]abe@...
>> The Emerson Lily Free School
>> www.emersonlilyfreeschool.org
>> The Ecovillage New Jersey project
>> [32][34]http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EcovillageNWNJ
>> "...if you hyperexploit your surroundings you will deplete them
>> and die;
>> the only way to survive in the long run is to give back more than
>> you take."? Derrick Jensen
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> References
>> 1. mailto:abe%40emersonlilyfreeschool.org
>> 2. mailto:HVEcovillage%40yahoogroups.com
>> 3. mailto:mihail.kossev%40gmail.com
>> 4. mailto:abe%40emersonlilyfreeschool.org
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>> -------------------------------------------------------
>> Abe Karl-Gruswitz
>> 973-786-5396
>> [83]abe@...
>> The Emerson Lily Free School
>> www.emersonlilyfreeschool.org
>> The Ecovillage New Jersey project
>> [84]http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EcovillageNWNJ
>> "...if you hyperexploit your surroundings you will deplete them
>> and die;
>> the only way to survive in the long run is to give back more than
>> you take."? Derrick Jensen
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
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>> 60.
>>
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>> 62.
>>
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>> 64.
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>> 68.
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>> 69.
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>> 70.
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roup/mompowergroup/
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>> 73. mailto:HVEcovillage-digest%40yahoogroups.com
>> 74. mailto:HVEcovillage-traditional%40yahoogroups.com
>> 75.
>>
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>> 76. http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>> 77. mailto:HVEcovillage-unsubscribe%40yahoogroups.com
>> 78.
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>> 79.
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>> 81.
>>
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>> 82.
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=3sPprud7rsdxlPk1CDoL1w/A=5170419/R=0/SIG=11b5gu1oe/*http://new.groups.yahoo.com\
/specialKgroup
>> 83. mailto:abe%40emersonlilyfreeschool.org
>> 84. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EcovillageNWNJ
>> 85.
>>
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>> 86.
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>> 87.
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>> 89.
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>> 90.
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>> 91.
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U5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyMjE3NzgxBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA4MjY0NARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNsaW5rcwRzdG\
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>> 92.
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>> 93.
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>> 94.
>>
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>> 95.
>>
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>> 96.
>>
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gxBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA4MjY0NARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTI1MjAyNDc5NQ--
>> 97.
>>
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5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyMjE3NzgxBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA4MjY0NARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNzdG5ncwRzdGl\
tZQMxMjUyMDI0Nzk1
>> 98.
>> mailto:HVEcovillage-digest@yahoogroups.com?subject=Email%20Delivery:%20Digest
>> 99.
>>
mailto:HVEcovillage-traditional@yahoogroups.com?subject=Change%20Delivery%20Form\
at:%20Traditional
>> 100.
>>
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BGdycElkAzEyMjE3NzgxBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA4MjY0NARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNocGYEc3RpbWUDMTI1\
MjAyNDc5NQ--
>> 101. http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>> 102. mailto:HVEcovillage-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=
>> 103.
>>
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MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyMjE3NzgxBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA4MjY0NARzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2bWJycwRz\
dGltZQMxMjUyMDI0Nzk1
>> 104.
>>
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BGdycElkAzEyMjE3NzgxBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA4MjY0NARzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzEy\
NTIwMjQ3OTU-
>> 105.
>>
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yMTc3ODEEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDgyNjQ0BHNlYwNuY21vZARzbGsDYnJhbmQEc3RpbWUDMTI1MjAyNDc\
5NQ--;_ylg=1/SIG=11314uv3k/**http%3A//brand.yahoo.com/forgood
>> 106.
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yMTc3ODEEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDgyNjQ0BHNlYwNuY21vZARzbGsDdG9vbGJhcgRzdGltZQMxMjUyMDI\
0Nzk1;_ylg=1/SIG=11c6dvmk9/**http%3A//toolbar.yahoo.com/%3F.cpdl=ygrps
>> 107.
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WQDMTIyMTc3ODEEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDgyNjQ0BHNlYwNuY21vZARzbGsDZ3JvdXBzMgRzdGltZQMxM\
jUyMDI0Nzk1
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>> Abe Karl-Gruswitz
>> 973-786-5396
>> abe@...
>> The Emerson Lily Free School
>> www.emersonlilyfreeschool.org
>> The Ecovillage New Jersey project
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EcovillageNWNJ
>>
>> "...if you hyperexploit your surroundings you will deplete them and die;
>> the only way to survive in the long run is to give back more than you
>> take." Derrick Jensen
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>

#1632 From: Ina Bransome <inabeing@...>
Date: Fri Oct 2, 2009 4:38 pm
Subject: Fwd: [northeasternpermaculture] our roots: Old Growth Demonstration in West Orange, NJ -- Oct. 29, 2009
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Begin forwarded message:

> From: Frances <dglsfrances@...>
> Date: October 2, 2009 12:03:59 PM EDT
> To: permaculture-61-announce@...,
> permaculturehudsonvalley@...,
> northeasternpermaculture@..., penn-permaculture-
> list@...,  fingerlakespermaculture@...,
> westernmapermacultureguild@...
> Subject: [northeasternpermaculture] our roots: Old Growth
> Demonstration in West Orange, NJ -- Oct. 29,  2009
>
> a-ha.  pardon.  thank you.
>
> Attached, is a flyer for your information & WIDE distribution
> (maybe you have friends & family nearby).
>
> Frances

Ina Bransome, PCD, CD (DONA)
Intern Lactation Consultant
www.clearbirth.com
Mentoring & Relief for Parents & Newborns
Newborn Contentment/Newborn Fluency
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#1631 From: Ina Bransome <inabeing@...>
Date: Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:02 pm
Subject: Farmacy Open House Celebration
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beautiful flyer did not forward, sorry.




What: Putting the Farm in Pharmacy

When: October 3, 2009 4:00 PM to 10 PM

Where:
Farmacy
513 Henry Street
Brooklyn, NY 11231

more info?

freepetey@...

A 1920'a phamarcy reincarnated as a farmer's market featuring fresh
Maine lobster, North Haven ME oysters, craft beer and local wine, egg
creams, live jazz and DJs, face painting. Sponsored by Petey Freeman
in a building owned by long-time Green Phoenix member Mark Stein. 513
Henry Street at the corner of Sackett. Come join the celebration!


Sent to you by:

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www.clearbirth.com
Mentoring & Relief for Parents & Newborns
Newborn Contentment/Newborn Fluency
718.522.5380
646.708.5427







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#1630 From: Ina Bransome <inabeing@...>
Date: Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:36 pm
Subject: Farmacy Open House Oct 3rd
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Ina Bransome, PCD, CD (DONA)
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www.clearbirth.com
Mentoring & Relief for Parents & Newborns
Newborn Contentment/Newborn Fluency
718.522.5380
646.708.5427


Ina Bransome, PCD, CD (DONA)
Intern Lactation Consultant
www.clearbirth.com
Mentoring & Relief for Parents & Newborns
Newborn Contentment/Newborn Fluency
718.522.5380
646.708.5427




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#1629 From: "Abram Karl-Gruswitz" <abe@...>
Date: Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:48 pm
Subject: How to Start Ecologically Sustainable Worker Cooperatives
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Hello,

If you know of anyone who might be interested in a workshop on
"How to Start Ecologically Sustainable Worker Cooperatives",
could you please forward my contact information to them?  I can
be emailed at abe@..., and phoned at
973-786-5396.  The course will be 8 weeks long, meeting once a
week in NYC, with homework in between.  The cost for the entire
course is $200.  Once the sign-up sheet has exceeded 10 people,
then, as a group, we'll try setting dates that all, or as many
people as possible, can attend, when the presenters are
available.  The program will be presented by Green Worker
Cooperatives in the Bronx, as part of the Co-op Academy.  There
may be a carpool opportunity.

Peace,

Abe Karl-Gruswitz
-------------------------------------------------------
Abe Karl-Gruswitz
973-786-5396
abe@...
The Emerson Lily Free School
www.emersonlilyfreeschool.org
The Ecovillage New Jersey project
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EcovillageNWNJ

"...if you hyperexploit your surroundings you will deplete them and die;
the only way to survive in the long run is to give back more than you take."
Derrick Jensen



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#1628 From: "katiehenry99" <katie-henry@...>
Date: Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:07 pm
Subject: Cohousing in Maplewood, NJ
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Cohousing in Maplewood, NJ

A cohousing community may be forming soon in Maplewood, NJ. Maplewood, in the
New York metro area of northern New Jersey (Essex County), is a racially and
culturally diverse town that is well known for its strong sense of community and
social activism.

Cohousing is a form of intentional neighborhood in which residents actively
participate in the design and operation of their own community. In cohousing,
residents know their neighbors well and enjoy a strong sense of community that
is typically absent in contemporary cities and suburbs.

Cohousing communities consist of private, fully equipped dwellings and extensive
common amenities, typically including a kitchen and dining room for shared meals
several times a week, guest rooms, a workshop/craft room, indoor and outdoor
kids' spaces, and other recreation areas. Cohousing is a custom-built,
resident-managed, close-knit neighborhood that offers a healthy balance of
privacy and community.

Cohousing communities are typically built to very high green standards. In fact,
the first residential building in the U.S. to achieve LEED Silver certification
was a cohousing community (Eastern Village Cohousing in Silver Spring, MD).

Please visit http://www.maplewoodcohousing.org for more information, or
subscribe to the maplewood_cohousing Yahoo group.

Thanks,
Katie Henry

#1627 From: Max Stein <professor.stein@...>
Date: Wed Sep 9, 2009 6:25 am
Subject: Re: Preston Hollow Land Collective
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I'm working during the meeting in Brooklyn but I am very interested in
this. How to stay involved?

Max

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Abram
Karl-Gruswitz<abe@...> wrote:
>
>
> Nope, I haven't been to Epworth in years. I was just thinking
> about some of those Hudson Valley Ecovillage meetings there. I
> was remembering some people that showed up a little and feeling
> bad about my bad memory with names, and was thinking it would
> have been cool to keep in contact. I remember Kevin bringing his
> friend Brad Will with him one time, and he struck me hard but
> indescriptively. I thought I had known him. It was great going
> the meetings with my brother Nik, thinking it would be so cool to
> be part of an ecovillage with him. Pretty cool people. The
> organizing was quite chaotic, maybe largely because of the
> popularity and large groups that came, but the people were always
> quite cool.
>
> Peace,
>
> Abe
>
> On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:39 -0400, Oasis654@... wrote:
>
> hi abe,? would like to visit your nj eco village too.? so to get
> in touch with the preston hollow people i guess i call the tel
> no. that was on bottom of letter.? have you gotten to epworth
> anymore?? peace, geo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abram Karl-Gruswitz <[1]abe@...
>>
> To: Hudson Valley Ecovillage <[2]HVEcovillage@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thu, Sep 3, 2009 4:46 pm
> Subject: Re: [HVEcovillage] Preston Hollow Land Collective
> Hi Geo,
> Yeah, you have had the pleasure of meeting me :) How are 'ya?
> I'm not involved with Preston Hollow. . . just passing on the
> word. I'm starting an ecovillage in NW NJ.
> Peace,
> Abe
> On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:17 -0400, [3]Oasis654@... wrote:
> hi folks,? i'm very interested in your preston hollow ideas. abe,
> i think we met at epworth permy course.? are you meeting up here
> for open house, or just in brooklyn?? i'm near albany.? thanks,
> geo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abram Karl-Gruswitz <[1][4]abe@...
>>
> To: Hudson Valley Ecovillage <[2][5]HVEcovillage@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wed, Sep 2, 2009 8:57 pm
> Subject: Re: [HVEcovillage] Preston Hollow Land Collective
> Oh, nuts. I've never tried to send a message from facebook to
> email before. I didn't know what it would end up like.
> Here's the message. . .
> Are you looking to live more sustainably? Do your passions
> include gardening, fermentation, wildcrafting, natural building,
> reforestation, caring for animals and educating/learning from
> others? Would you like a cheap and easy way to start your own
> sustainable business?
> The Preston Hollow Land Collective offers participants a way to
> make all those things possible. We are currently looking for new
> members who want to be a part of our growing network of cottage
> industries, teachers and craftspeople. We aim to experiment with
> new methods of trade that promote locally-based, small-scale
> products and services. The idea sounds big, but with the right
> people, it is VERY doable.
> BACKGROUND
> * The Land: Situated on a beautiful 110-acre south-facing slope
> 30 miles south of Albany, Preston Hollow has the potential to
> become a vibrant community of landscape designers, artisans and
> entrepreneurs whose purpose is to care for and rehabilitate the
> Earth while building a sustainable economic model around
> small-scale agriculture and craft. Currently, we have one house,
> a few barns and an old production apple orchard with mint,
> oregano and raspberries growing wild underneath. The property is
> bordered by a creek and there is access to 2 additional natural
> water sources (a spring and a well). There are 4-5 large fields
> that have most likely been terra-formed by loggers and the wooded
> area is still young (and in need of some tender love and care as
> well). The house is situated in the center of the town of Preston
> Hollow (pop: 1,000) and goes back over a mile up the mountain.
> For pictures of the location, send an email to the address below.
> * The Organization: We have signed a long-term lease with the
> landowner with the rights to develop this land as a permaculture
> site. In lieu of this, we are looking to build our network of
> permaculture enthusiasts who can invest their
> time/energy/resources into a cooperative means of subsistence
> over the course of the next few years.
> CONCEPT
> * How it works: Co-op members can be invested in this project in
> a variety of ways. They can choose to participate with either a
> full-time or part-time presence on the land by proposing a
> project based on permaculture principles that could eventually
> bring them enough income to cover their cost of living. The co-op
> will offer 110% support for individuals with ambitious plans for
> their craft or farm-based product by way of fund-raising,
> marketing and general labor. A full-time presence on the land
> would require a genuine commitment to communal living and pooling
> resources. Members can also opt for a part-time presence on the
> land if their project does not require constant attention or
> isn't necessarily meant to bring in revenue. For example,
> Brooklyn artists could use some of the barns as a studio space
> (and possibly a show-room), which would bring diversity,
> creativity and new skills into the community, and/or a member
> could keep beehives on the property and come to collect the
> honey/check on the hives once a month. There are many ways to be
> involved.
> * Example of this model: Part of this land will be used to grow
> organic heirloom vegetables for seed by one member of the co-op
> for retail, who will then give the flesh of the vegetables to
> another member invested in canning/preserves/fermentation. Both
> members will make money off of their product, but essentially
> share the overhead. Others may choose to invest in livestock,
> bees, mushrooms, compost and/or edible perennials to produce
> their own value-added products, though our system will be
> fully-integrated throughout. Some could even run workshops, host
> events, retreats and/or work to rehabilitate the 55 forested
> acres along the creek. All fees are negotiable and the co-op
> itself exists as a way for people with similar interest to split
> the operational costs of their passions.
> OBJECTIVES
> * The overall vision for the organization is to stack as many
> mutually beneficial functions (social and physical) as possible
> on one piece of land that could draw small amounts of revenue to
> the individual invested in them, but add to the abundance of the
> greater community.
> * We aim to build community, food security and experiment with a
> truly sustainable economic model.
> * The parameters of this Collective will all be determined
> democratically by the members -- therefore, before we make up any
> more rules, we need members! :-)
> HOW TO GET INVOLVED
> * Contact Mihail Kossev at [3][6]mihail.kossev@... /
> 732-492-6001
> * Attend our informational gathering...
> TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 15th 2009 at 7pm
> @ UNNAMEABLE BOOKS
> 600 Vanderbilt Ave in Brooklyn, NY
> Take the B,Q to 7th ave - 2,3 to Bergen - A,C,G to
> Clinton-Washington
> * then contact Mihail anyway to RSVP :-)
> FOOD AND DRINKS AVAILABLE (so come with empty stomachs!) --
> DONATIONS WELCOME
> The possibilities are endless and the timing is right!
> --
> Home Harvest / Edible Landscapes
> 602 Vanderbilt Ave, 3rd Floor
> Brooklyn, NY 11238
> (732) 492-6001
> www.ediblelandscaper.com
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> Abe Karl-Gruswitz
> 973-786-5396
> [31][33]abe@...
> The Emerson Lily Free School
> www.emersonlilyfreeschool.org
> The Ecovillage New Jersey project
> [32][34]http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EcovillageNWNJ
> "...if you hyperexploit your surroundings you will deplete them
> and die;
> the only way to survive in the long run is to give back more than
> you take."? Derrick Jensen
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> 3. mailto:mihail.kossev%40gmail.com
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> -------------------------------------------------------
> Abe Karl-Gruswitz
> 973-786-5396
> [83]abe@...
> The Emerson Lily Free School
> www.emersonlilyfreeschool.org
> The Ecovillage New Jersey project
> [84]http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EcovillageNWNJ
> "...if you hyperexploit your surroundings you will deplete them
> and die;
> the only way to survive in the long run is to give back more than
> you take."? Derrick Jensen
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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> -------------------------------------------------------
> Abe Karl-Gruswitz
> 973-786-5396
> abe@...
> The Emerson Lily Free School
> www.emersonlilyfreeschool.org
> The Ecovillage New Jersey project
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EcovillageNWNJ
>
> "...if you hyperexploit your surroundings you will deplete them and die;
> the only way to survive in the long run is to give back more than you
> take." Derrick Jensen
>
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>
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#1626 From: "Abram Karl-Gruswitz" <abe@...>
Date: Fri Sep 4, 2009 4:46 am
Subject: Re: Preston Hollow Land Collective
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Nope, I haven't been to Epworth in years.  I was just thinking
about some of those Hudson Valley Ecovillage meetings there.  I
was remembering some people that showed up a little and feeling
bad about my bad memory with names, and was thinking it would
have been cool to keep in contact.  I remember Kevin bringing his
friend Brad Will with him one time, and he struck me hard but
indescriptively.  I thought I had known him.  It was great going
the meetings with my brother Nik, thinking it would be so cool to
be part of an ecovillage with him.  Pretty cool people.  The
organizing was quite chaotic, maybe largely because of the
popularity and large groups that came, but the people were always
quite cool.

Peace,

Abe


On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:39 -0400, Oasis654@... wrote:


hi abe,? would like to visit your nj eco village too.? so to get
in touch with the preston hollow people i guess i call the tel
no. that was on bottom of letter.? have you gotten to epworth
anymore?? peace, geo
-----Original Message-----
From: Abram Karl-Gruswitz <[1]abe@...
>
To: Hudson Valley Ecovillage <[2]HVEcovillage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 3, 2009 4:46 pm
Subject: Re: [HVEcovillage] Preston Hollow Land Collective
Hi Geo,
Yeah, you have had the pleasure of meeting me :) How are 'ya?
I'm not involved with Preston Hollow. . . just passing on the
word. I'm starting an ecovillage in NW NJ.
Peace,
Abe
On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:17 -0400, [3]Oasis654@... wrote:
hi folks,? i'm very interested in your preston hollow ideas. abe,
i think we met at epworth permy course.? are you meeting up here
for open house, or just in brooklyn?? i'm near albany.? thanks,
geo
-----Original Message-----
From: Abram Karl-Gruswitz <[1][4]abe@...
>
To: Hudson Valley Ecovillage <[2][5]HVEcovillage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Sep 2, 2009 8:57 pm
Subject: Re: [HVEcovillage] Preston Hollow Land Collective
Oh, nuts. I've never tried to send a message from facebook to
email before. I didn't know what it would end up like.
Here's the message. . .
Are you looking to live more sustainably? Do your passions
include gardening, fermentation, wildcrafting, natural building,
reforestation, caring for animals and educating/learning from
others? Would you like a cheap and easy way to start your own
sustainable business?
The Preston Hollow Land Collective offers participants a way to
make all those things possible. We are currently looking for new
members who want to be a part of our growing network of cottage
industries, teachers and craftspeople. We aim to experiment with
new methods of trade that promote locally-based, small-scale
products and services. The idea sounds big, but with the right
people, it is VERY doable.
BACKGROUND
* The Land: Situated on a beautiful 110-acre south-facing slope
30 miles south of Albany, Preston Hollow has the potential to
become a vibrant community of landscape designers, artisans and
entrepreneurs whose purpose is to care for and rehabilitate the
Earth while building a sustainable economic model around
small-scale agriculture and craft. Currently, we have one house,
a few barns and an old production apple orchard with mint,
oregano and raspberries growing wild underneath. The property is
bordered by a creek and there is access to 2 additional natural
water sources (a spring and a well). There are 4-5 large fields
that have most likely been terra-formed by loggers and the wooded
area is still young (and in need of some tender love and care as
well). The house is situated in the center of the town of Preston
Hollow (pop: 1,000) and goes back over a mile up the mountain.
For pictures of the location, send an email to the address below.
* The Organization: We have signed a long-term lease with the
landowner with the rights to develop this land as a permaculture
site. In lieu of this, we are looking to build our network of
permaculture enthusiasts who can invest their
time/energy/resources into a cooperative means of subsistence
over the course of the next few years.
CONCEPT
* How it works: Co-op members can be invested in this project in
a variety of ways. They can choose to participate with either a
full-time or part-time presence on the land by proposing a
project based on permaculture principles that could eventually
bring them enough income to cover their cost of living. The co-op
will offer 110% support for individuals with ambitious plans for
their craft or farm-based product by way of fund-raising,
marketing and general labor. A full-time presence on the land
would require a genuine commitment to communal living and pooling
resources. Members can also opt for a part-time presence on the
land if their project does not require constant attention or
isn't necessarily meant to bring in revenue. For example,
Brooklyn artists could use some of the barns as a studio space
(and possibly a show-room), which would bring diversity,
creativity and new skills into the community, and/or a member
could keep beehives on the property and come to collect the
honey/check on the hives once a month. There are many ways to be
involved.
* Example of this model: Part of this land will be used to grow
organic heirloom vegetables for seed by one member of the co-op
for retail, who will then give the flesh of the vegetables to
another member invested in canning/preserves/fermentation. Both
members will make money off of their product, but essentially
share the overhead. Others may choose to invest in livestock,
bees, mushrooms, compost and/or edible perennials to produce
their own value-added products, though our system will be
fully-integrated throughout. Some could even run workshops, host
events, retreats and/or work to rehabilitate the 55 forested
acres along the creek. All fees are negotiable and the co-op
itself exists as a way for people with similar interest to split
the operational costs of their passions.
OBJECTIVES
* The overall vision for the organization is to stack as many
mutually beneficial functions (social and physical) as possible
on one piece of land that could draw small amounts of revenue to
the individual invested in them, but add to the abundance of the
greater community.
* We aim to build community, food security and experiment with a
truly sustainable economic model.
* The parameters of this Collective will all be determined
democratically by the members -- therefore, before we make up any
more rules, we need members! :-)
HOW TO GET INVOLVED
* Contact Mihail Kossev at [3][6]mihail.kossev@... /
732-492-6001
* Attend our informational gathering...
TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 15th 2009 at 7pm
@ UNNAMEABLE BOOKS
600 Vanderbilt Ave in Brooklyn, NY
Take the B,Q to 7th ave - 2,3 to Bergen - A,C,G to
Clinton-Washington
* then contact Mihail anyway to RSVP :-)
FOOD AND DRINKS AVAILABLE (so come with empty stomachs!) --
DONATIONS WELCOME
The possibilities are endless and the timing is right!
--
Home Harvest / Edible Landscapes
602 Vanderbilt Ave, 3rd Floor
Brooklyn, NY 11238
(732) 492-6001
www.ediblelandscaper.com
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:53 -0700, "Abe Karl-Gruswitz"
<[4][7]abe@...> wrote:
Abe sent [1]hvecovillage@yahoogroups.
com a message on Facebook.
To reply to this message, follow the link below:
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[83]abe@...
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The Ecovillage New Jersey project
[84]http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EcovillageNWNJ
"...if you hyperexploit your surroundings you will deplete them
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#1625 From: "Abram Karl-Gruswitz" <abe@...>
Date: Fri Sep 4, 2009 4:47 am
Subject: Fwd: 10th Bioregional Congress comes to the Farm!
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Amidst the hills and hollows, tribes and councils new and old
will gather to share and collaborate finding ways to re-inhabit
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Those working to create a sustainable and just human culture are
invited to participate in this year's Congress as delegates
representing bioregions across North America, including:
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The Tribes of North and South America have been gathering in
councils and encuentros for thousands of years, and in that
tradition, the Continental Bioregional Congress has been a
gathering of the environmental, social and native movements since
the first Continental Bioregional Congress in1984.
Continental Congresses have brought together earth natives from
all generations in sacred celebration and deep connection with
the earth and our diverse human family. The 10th Continental
Bioregional Congress (CBCX) will be a landmark event focused on
unifying and strengthening the global effort to preserve, restore
and enhance life. Individuals and organizations participating in
the Congress will envision, exchange and spark realistic,
restorative strategies for living in the bioregions of the
Americas.
This year's Congress, to be held at The Farm community in middle
Tennessee, will spark and strengthen ecological and social
networks to exchange information, strategies, and approaches
about how to forge meaningful lives in balance with our local
ecosystems and communities. The congress will be packed with
informative speakers covering diverse topics related to earth
care, community development and economic resiliency. We'll also
share and celebrate stories of place, model the communities we
wish to support and create, and replenish ourselves, so that we
leave CBCX empowered with new tools, strategies, support and
inspiration to further manifest our social change efforts.
Together, participants will create transformations that ripple
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   * $600 if you register September 25th- October 2nd (the week
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This year's Congress will be hosted by The Farm, a thriving
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ecological restoration, economic prosperity and policy change.
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BIOREGIONALISM
What is Bioregionalism?
Bioregionalism embodies the effort to preserve, restore and
enhance life. It represents a comprehensive way of defining and
understanding the places where we live, and of living there
sustainably and respectfully through integrative
ecological design. At the same time, Bioregionalism's essence has
been reality and common sense for native people living close to
the land for thousands of years ; even beyond human experience,
bioregionalism is rooted in the ecological principles of all
life. In recognizing that we live in watersheds, ecosystems and
ecoregions, we can find a context for how to craft our lives in
balance with our communities and eco-communities. We recognize
that we are part of the web of the life, and that all justice,
freedom and peace must be grounded in this recognition.
The modern tradition of the Bioregionalism has been a catalyst
for social and political change in government toward
decentralization of power to smaller units of population and land
to: keep wealth in local communities, preserve and enrich natural
systems, and live in ways that foster sustainable resource use.
Bioregionalism pioneers new modes of relatedness to the mystery
and wonder of the
natural world. Over the years, the Bioregional movement has
helped spawn and support many other powerful movements and
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With the recent escalation of ecological devastation and the
current global economic and political crises, the answers
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Bioregional Movement has been a catalyst for social and political
change defined by the decentralization of power to smaller units
of population and land. Many global efforts have been seeded
through this powerful tradition over the years including the
formation of the Green Party, ecovillages and ecological and
social restoration efforts. This year's Congress will include
training on the Transition Town Movement, and will be a powerful
nexus for leaders from various ecological and social networks to
synergize their efforts for maximum efficiency and effectiveness.
Hundreds of people from diverse bioregions and fields such as
policy, agriculture, restoration, art, education, business, and
healing will participate in this year's Congress as delegates.
Thousands more will tune in to the proceedings of the Congress
online, expanding the ripple effects of the inspiration and
synergy catalyzed by this historic event. Audiences everywhere
will benefit from getting a glimpse into Bioregionalism, and the
profound hope that it provides for the world in actualizing
sustainable, long-lasting positive change.
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The Emerson Lily Free School
www.emersonlilyfreeschool.org
The Ecovillage New Jersey project
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EcovillageNWNJ

"...if you hyperexploit your surroundings you will deplete them and die;
the only way to survive in the long run is to give back more than you take." 
Derrick Jensen



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#1624 From: David Logan <davidlogan@...>
Date: Fri Sep 4, 2009 1:19 am
Subject: Re: Preston Hollow Land Collective
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Thanks for sending. I'm planning to attend the meet-up on Sept 15th
On Sep 2, 2009, at 8:57 PM, Abram Karl-Gruswitz wrote:

> Oh, nuts. I've never tried to send a message from facebook to
> email before. I didn't know what it would end up like.
>
> Here's the message. . .
>
> Are you looking to live more sustainably? Do your passions
> include gardening, fermentation, wildcrafting, natural building,
> reforestation, caring for animals and educating/learning from
> others? Would you like a cheap and easy way to start your own
> sustainable business?
> The Preston Hollow Land Collective offers participants a way to
> make all those things possible. We are currently looking for new
> members who want to be a part of our growing network of cottage
> industries, teachers and craftspeople. We aim to experiment with
> new methods of trade that promote locally-based, small-scale
> products and services. The idea sounds big, but with the right
> people, it is VERY doable.
> BACKGROUND
> * The Land: Situated on a beautiful 110-acre south-facing slope
> 30 miles south of Albany, Preston Hollow has the potential to
> become a vibrant community of landscape designers, artisans and
> entrepreneurs whose purpose is to care for and rehabilitate the
> Earth while building a sustainable economic model around
> small-scale agriculture and craft. Currently, we have one house,
> a few barns and an old production apple orchard with mint,
> oregano and raspberries growing wild underneath. The property is
> bordered by a creek and there is access to 2 additional natural
> water sources (a spring and a well). There are 4-5 large fields
> that have most likely been terra-formed by loggers and the wooded
> area is still young (and in need of some tender love and care as
> well). The house is situated in the center of the town of Preston
> Hollow (pop: 1,000) and goes back over a mile up the mountain.
> For pictures of the location, send an email to the address below.
> * The Organization: We have signed a long-term lease with the
> landowner with the rights to develop this land as a permaculture
> site. In lieu of this, we are looking to build our network of
> permaculture enthusiasts who can invest their
> time/energy/resources into a cooperative means of subsistence
> over the course of the next few years.
> CONCEPT
> * How it works: Co-op members can be invested in this project in
> a variety of ways. They can choose to participate with either a
> full-time or part-time presence on the land by proposing a
> project based on permaculture principles that could eventually
> bring them enough income to cover their cost of living. The co-op
> will offer 110% support for individuals with ambitious plans for
> their craft or farm-based product by way of fund-raising,
> marketing and general labor. A full-time presence on the land
> would require a genuine commitment to communal living and pooling
> resources. Members can also opt for a part-time presence on the
> land if their project does not require constant attention or
> isn't necessarily meant to bring in revenue. For example,
> Brooklyn artists could use some of the barns as a studio space
> (and possibly a show-room), which would bring diversity,
> creativity and new skills into the community, and/or a member
> could keep beehives on the property and come to collect the
> honey/check on the hives once a month. There are many ways to be
> involved.
> * Example of this model: Part of this land will be used to grow
> organic heirloom vegetables for seed by one member of the co-op
> for retail, who will then give the flesh of the vegetables to
> another member invested in canning/preserves/fermentation. Both
> members will make money off of their product, but essentially
> share the overhead. Others may choose to invest in livestock,
> bees, mushrooms, compost and/or edible perennials to produce
> their own value-added products, though our system will be
> fully-integrated throughout. Some could even run workshops, host
> events, retreats and/or work to rehabilitate the 55 forested
> acres along the creek. All fees are negotiable and the co-op
> itself exists as a way for people with similar interest to split
> the operational costs of their passions.
> OBJECTIVES
> * The overall vision for the organization is to stack as many
> mutually beneficial functions (social and physical) as possible
> on one piece of land that could draw small amounts of revenue to
> the individual invested in them, but add to the abundance of the
> greater community.
> * We aim to build community, food security and experiment with a
> truly sustainable economic model.
> * The parameters of this Collective will all be determined
> democratically by the members -- therefore, before we make up any
> more rules, we need members! :-)
> HOW TO GET INVOLVED
> * Contact Mihail Kossev at mihail.kossev@... / 732-492-6001
> * Attend our informational gathering...
> TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 15th 2009 at 7pm
> @ UNNAMEABLE BOOKS
> 600 Vanderbilt Ave in Brooklyn, NY
> Take the B,Q to 7th ave - 2,3 to Bergen - A,C,G to
> Clinton-Washington
> * then contact Mihail anyway to RSVP :-)
> FOOD AND DRINKS AVAILABLE (so come with empty stomachs!) --
> DONATIONS WELCOME
> The possibilities are endless and the timing is right!
> --
> Home Harvest / Edible Landscapes
> 602 Vanderbilt Ave, 3rd Floor
> Brooklyn, NY 11238
> (732) 492-6001
> www.ediblelandscaper.com
>
> On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:53 -0700, "Abe Karl-Gruswitz"
> <abe@...> wrote:
>
> Abe sent [1]hvecovillage@yahoogroups.
> com a message on Facebook.
> To reply to this message, follow the link below:
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#1623 From: Oasis654@...
Date: Fri Sep 4, 2009 12:39 am
Subject: Re: Preston Hollow Land Collective
Oasis654@...
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hi abe,? would like to visit your nj eco village too.? so to get in touch with
the preston hollow people i guess i call the tel no. that was on bottom of
letter.? have you gotten to epworth anymore?? peace, geo







-----Original Message-----
From: Abram Karl-Gruswitz <abe@...>
To: Hudson Valley Ecovillage <HVEcovillage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 3, 2009 4:46 pm
Subject: Re: [HVEcovillage] Preston Hollow Land Collective

























Hi Geo,



Yeah, you have had the pleasure of meeting me :)  How are 'ya?



I'm not involved with Preston Hollow. . . just passing on the

word.  I'm starting an ecovillage in NW NJ.



Peace,



Abe



On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:17 -0400, Oasis654@... wrote:



hi folks,? i'm very interested in your preston hollow ideas. abe,

i think we met at epworth permy course.? are you meeting up here

for open house, or just in brooklyn?? i'm near albany.? thanks,

geo

-----Original Message-----

From: Abram Karl-Gruswitz <[1]abe@...

>

To: Hudson Valley Ecovillage <[2]HVEcovillage@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Wed, Sep 2, 2009 8:57 pm

Subject: Re: [HVEcovillage] Preston Hollow Land Collective

Oh, nuts. I've never tried to send a message from facebook to

email before. I didn't know what it would end up like.

Here's the message. . .

Are you looking to live more sustainably? Do your passions

include gardening, fermentation, wildcrafting, natural building,

reforestation, caring for animals and educating/learning from

others? Would you like a cheap and easy way to start your own

sustainable business?

The Preston Hollow Land Collective offers participants a way to

make all those things possible. We are currently looking for new

members who want to be a part of our growing network of cottage

industries, teachers and craftspeople. We aim to experiment with

new methods of trade that promote locally-based, small-scale

products and services. The idea sounds big, but with the right

people, it is VERY doable.

BACKGROUND

* The Land: Situated on a beautiful 110-acre south-facing slope

30 miles south of Albany, Preston Hollow has the potential to

become a vibrant community of landscape designers, artisans and

entrepreneurs whose purpose is to care for and rehabilitate the

Earth while building a sustainable economic model around

small-scale agriculture and craft. Currently, we have one house,

a few barns and an old production apple orchard with mint,

oregano and raspberries growing wild underneath. The property is

bordered by a creek and there is access to 2 additional natural

water sources (a spring and a well). There are 4-5 large fields

that have most likely been terra-formed by loggers and the wooded

area is still young (and in need of some tender love and care as

well). The house is situated in the center of the town of Preston

Hollow (pop: 1,000) and goes back over a mile up the mountain.

For pictures of the location, send an email to the address below.

* The Organization: We have signed a long-term lease with the

landowner with the rights to develop this land as a permaculture

site. In lieu of this, we are looking to build our network of

permaculture enthusiasts who can invest their

time/energy/resources into a cooperative means of subsistence

over the course of the next few years.

CONCEPT

* How it works: Co-op members can be invested in this project in

a variety of ways. They can choose to participate with either a

full-time or part-time presence on the land by proposing a

project based on permaculture principles that could eventually

bring them enough income to cover their cost of living. The co-op

will offer 110% support for individuals with ambitious plans for

their craft or farm-based product by way of fund-raising,

marketing and general labor. A full-time presence on the land

would require a genuine commitment to communal living and pooling

resources. Members can also opt for a part-time presence on the

land if their project does not require constant attention or

isn't necessarily meant to bring in revenue. For example,

Brooklyn artists could use some of the barns as a studio space

(and possibly a show-room), which would bring diversity,

creativity and new skills into the community, and/or a member

could keep beehives on the property and come to collect the

honey/check on the hives once a month. There are many ways to be

involved.

* Example of this model: Part of this land will be used to grow

organic heirloom vegetables for seed by one member of the co-op

for retail, who will then give the flesh of the vegetables to

another member invested in canning/preserves/fermentation. Both

members will make money off of their product, but essentially

share the overhead. Others may choose to invest in livestock,

bees, mushrooms, compost and/or edible perennials to produce

their own value-added products, though our system will be

fully-integrated throughout. Some could even run workshops, host

events, retreats and/or work to rehabilitate the 55 forested

acres along the creek. All fees are negotiable and the co-op

itself exists as a way for people with similar interest to split

the operational costs of their passions.

OBJECTIVES

* The overall vision for the organization is to stack as many

mutually beneficial functions (social and physical) as possible

on one piece of land that could draw small amounts of revenue to

the individual invested in them, but add to the abundance of the

greater community.

* We aim to build community, food security and experiment with a

truly sustainable economic model.

* The parameters of this Collective will all be determined

democratically by the members -- therefore, before we make up any

more rules, we need members! :-)

HOW TO GET INVOLVED

* Contact Mihail Kossev at [3]mihail.kossev@... /

732-492-6001

* Attend our informational gathering...

TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 15th 2009 at 7pm

@ UNNAMEABLE BOOKS

600 Vanderbilt Ave in Brooklyn, NY

Take the B,Q to 7th ave - 2,3 to Bergen - A,C,G to

Clinton-Washington

* then contact Mihail anyway to RSVP :-)

FOOD AND DRINKS AVAILABLE (so come with empty stomachs!) --

DONATIONS WELCOME

The possibilities are endless and the timing is right!

--

Home Harvest / Edible Landscapes

602 Vanderbilt Ave, 3rd Floor

Brooklyn, NY 11238

(732) 492-6001

www.ediblelandscaper.com

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Abe Karl-Gruswitz

973-786-5396

abe@...

The Emerson Lily Free School

www.emersonlilyfreeschool.org

The Ecovillage New Jersey project

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EcovillageNWNJ



"...if you hyperexploit your surroundings you will deplete them and die;

the only way to survive in the long run is to give back more than you take."?
Derrick Jensen



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#1622 From: "Abram Karl-Gruswitz" <abe@...>
Date: Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:46 pm
Subject: Re: Preston Hollow Land Collective
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Hi Geo,

Yeah, you have had the pleasure of meeting me :)  How are 'ya?

I'm not involved with Preston Hollow. . . just passing on the
word.  I'm starting an ecovillage in NW NJ.

Peace,

Abe

On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:17 -0400, Oasis654@... wrote:


hi folks,? i'm very interested in your preston hollow ideas. abe,
i think we met at epworth permy course.? are you meeting up here
for open house, or just in brooklyn?? i'm near albany.? thanks,
geo
-----Original Message-----
From: Abram Karl-Gruswitz <[1]abe@...
>
To: Hudson Valley Ecovillage <[2]HVEcovillage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Sep 2, 2009 8:57 pm
Subject: Re: [HVEcovillage] Preston Hollow Land Collective
Oh, nuts. I've never tried to send a message from facebook to
email before. I didn't know what it would end up like.
Here's the message. . .
Are you looking to live more sustainably? Do your passions
include gardening, fermentation, wildcrafting, natural building,
reforestation, caring for animals and educating/learning from
others? Would you like a cheap and easy way to start your own
sustainable business?
The Preston Hollow Land Collective offers participants a way to
make all those things possible. We are currently looking for new
members who want to be a part of our growing network of cottage
industries, teachers and craftspeople. We aim to experiment with
new methods of trade that promote locally-based, small-scale
products and services. The idea sounds big, but with the right
people, it is VERY doable.
BACKGROUND
* The Land: Situated on a beautiful 110-acre south-facing slope
30 miles south of Albany, Preston Hollow has the potential to
become a vibrant community of landscape designers, artisans and
entrepreneurs whose purpose is to care for and rehabilitate the
Earth while building a sustainable economic model around
small-scale agriculture and craft. Currently, we have one house,
a few barns and an old production apple orchard with mint,
oregano and raspberries growing wild underneath. The property is
bordered by a creek and there is access to 2 additional natural
water sources (a spring and a well). There are 4-5 large fields
that have most likely been terra-formed by loggers and the wooded
area is still young (and in need of some tender love and care as
well). The house is situated in the center of the town of Preston
Hollow (pop: 1,000) and goes back over a mile up the mountain.
For pictures of the location, send an email to the address below.
* The Organization: We have signed a long-term lease with the
landowner with the rights to develop this land as a permaculture
site. In lieu of this, we are looking to build our network of
permaculture enthusiasts who can invest their
time/energy/resources into a cooperative means of subsistence
over the course of the next few years.
CONCEPT
* How it works: Co-op members can be invested in this project in
a variety of ways. They can choose to participate with either a
full-time or part-time presence on the land by proposing a
project based on permaculture principles that could eventually
bring them enough income to cover their cost of living. The co-op
will offer 110% support for individuals with ambitious plans for
their craft or farm-based product by way of fund-raising,
marketing and general labor. A full-time presence on the land
would require a genuine commitment to communal living and pooling
resources. Members can also opt for a part-time presence on the
land if their project does not require constant attention or
isn't necessarily meant to bring in revenue. For example,
Brooklyn artists could use some of the barns as a studio space
(and possibly a show-room), which would bring diversity,
creativity and new skills into the community, and/or a member
could keep beehives on the property and come to collect the
honey/check on the hives once a month. There are many ways to be
involved.
* Example of this model: Part of this land will be used to grow
organic heirloom vegetables for seed by one member of the co-op
for retail, who will then give the flesh of the vegetables to
another member invested in canning/preserves/fermentation. Both
members will make money off of their product, but essentially
share the overhead. Others may choose to invest in livestock,
bees, mushrooms, compost and/or edible perennials to produce
their own value-added products, though our system will be
fully-integrated throughout. Some could even run workshops, host
events, retreats and/or work to rehabilitate the 55 forested
acres along the creek. All fees are negotiable and the co-op
itself exists as a way for people with similar interest to split
the operational costs of their passions.
OBJECTIVES
* The overall vision for the organization is to stack as many
mutually beneficial functions (social and physical) as possible
on one piece of land that could draw small amounts of revenue to
the individual invested in them, but add to the abundance of the
greater community.
* We aim to build community, food security and experiment with a
truly sustainable economic model.
* The parameters of this Collective will all be determined
democratically by the members -- therefore, before we make up any
more rules, we need members! :-)
HOW TO GET INVOLVED
* Contact Mihail Kossev at [3]mihail.kossev@... /
732-492-6001
* Attend our informational gathering...
TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 15th 2009 at 7pm
@ UNNAMEABLE BOOKS
600 Vanderbilt Ave in Brooklyn, NY
Take the B,Q to 7th ave - 2,3 to Bergen - A,C,G to
Clinton-Washington
* then contact Mihail anyway to RSVP :-)
FOOD AND DRINKS AVAILABLE (so come with empty stomachs!) --
DONATIONS WELCOME
The possibilities are endless and the timing is right!
--
Home Harvest / Edible Landscapes
602 Vanderbilt Ave, 3rd Floor
Brooklyn, NY 11238
(732) 492-6001
www.ediblelandscaper.com
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:53 -0700, "Abe Karl-Gruswitz"
<[4]abe@...> wrote:
Abe sent [1]hvecovillage@yahoogroups.
com a message on Facebook.
To reply to this message, follow the link below:
[2][5]http://www.facebook.com/p.php?i=1098710036&k=Z6LT56W2VXTF6B
D1Q156YTQQSV&oid=1038265333852
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973-786-5396
abe@...
The Emerson Lily Free School
www.emersonlilyfreeschool.org
The Ecovillage New Jersey project
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EcovillageNWNJ

"...if you hyperexploit your surroundings you will deplete them and die;
the only way to survive in the long run is to give back more than you take."
Derrick Jensen



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#1621 From: Oasis654@...
Date: Thu Sep 3, 2009 8:17 pm
Subject: Re: Preston Hollow Land Collective
Oasis654@...
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hi folks,? i'm very interested in your preston hollow ideas. abe, i think we
met at epworth permy course.? are you meeting up here for open house, or just in
brooklyn?? i'm near albany.? thanks, geo







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From: Abram Karl-Gruswitz <abe@...>
To: Hudson Valley Ecovillage <HVEcovillage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Sep 2, 2009 8:57 pm
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Are you looking to live more sustainably? Do your passions

include gardening, fermentation, wildcrafting, natural building,

reforestation, caring for animals and educating/learning from

others? Would you like a cheap and easy way to start your own

sustainable business?

The Preston Hollow Land Collective offers participants a way to

make all those things possible. We are currently looking for new

members who want to be a part of our growing network of cottage

industries, teachers and craftspeople. We aim to experiment with

new methods of trade that promote locally-based, small-scale

products and services. The idea sounds big, but with the right

people, it is VERY doable.

BACKGROUND

* The Land: Situated on a beautiful 110-acre south-facing slope

30 miles south of Albany, Preston Hollow has the potential to

become a vibrant community of landscape designers, artisans and

entrepreneurs whose purpose is to care for and rehabilitate the

Earth while building a sustainable economic model around

small-scale agriculture and craft. Currently, we have one house,

a few barns and an old production apple orchard with mint,

oregano and raspberries growing wild underneath. The property is

bordered by a creek and there is access to 2 additional natural

water sources (a spring and a well). There are 4-5 large fields

that have most likely been terra-formed by loggers and the wooded

area is still young (and in need of some tender love and care as

well). The house is situated in the center of the town of Preston

Hollow (pop: 1,000) and goes back over a mile up the mountain.

For pictures of the location, send an email to the address below.

* The Organization: We have signed a long-term lease with the

landowner with the rights to develop this land as a permaculture

site. In lieu of this, we are looking to build our network of

permaculture enthusiasts who can invest their

time/energy/resources into a cooperative means of subsistence

over the course of the next few years.

CONCEPT

* How it works: Co-op members can be invested in this project in

a variety of ways. They can choose to participate with either a

full-time or part-time presence on the land by proposing a

project based on permaculture principles that could eventually

bring them enough income to cover their cost of living. The co-op

will offer 110% support for individuals with ambitious plans for

their craft or farm-based product by way of fund-raising,

marketing and general labor. A full-time presence on the land

would require a genuine commitment to communal living and pooling

resources. Members can also opt for a part-time presence on the

land if their project does not require constant attention or

isn't necessarily meant to bring in revenue. For example,

Brooklyn artists could use some of the barns as a studio space

(and possibly a show-room), which would bring diversity,

creativity and new skills into the community, and/or a member

could keep beehives on the property and come to collect the

honey/check on the hives once a month. There are many ways to be

involved.

* Example of this model: Part of this land will be used to grow

organic heirloom vegetables for seed by one member of the co-op

for retail, who will then give the flesh of the vegetables to

another member invested in canning/preserves/fermentation. Both

members will make money off of their product, but essentially

share the overhead. Others may choose to invest in livestock,

bees, mushrooms, compost and/or edible perennials to produce

their own value-added products, though our system will be

fully-integrated throughout. Some could even run workshops, host

events, retreats and/or work to rehabilitate the 55 forested

acres along the creek. All fees are negotiable and the co-op

itself exists as a way for people with similar interest to split

the operational costs of their passions.

OBJECTIVES

* The overall vision for the organization is to stack as many

mutually beneficial functions (social and physical) as possible

on one piece of land that could draw small amounts of revenue to

the individual invested in them, but add to the abundance of the

greater community.

* We aim to build community, food security and experiment with a

truly sustainable economic model.

* The parameters of this Collective will all be determined

democratically by the members -- therefore, before we make up any

more rules, we need members! :-)

HOW TO GET INVOLVED

* Contact Mihail Kossev at mihail.kossev@... / 732-492-6001

* Attend our informational gathering...

TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 15th 2009 at 7pm

@ UNNAMEABLE BOOKS

600 Vanderbilt Ave in Brooklyn, NY

Take the B,Q to 7th ave - 2,3 to Bergen - A,C,G to

Clinton-Washington

* then contact Mihail anyway to RSVP :-)

FOOD AND DRINKS AVAILABLE (so come with empty stomachs!) --

DONATIONS WELCOME

The possibilities are endless and the timing is right!

--

Home Harvest / Edible Landscapes

602 Vanderbilt Ave, 3rd Floor

Brooklyn, NY 11238

(732) 492-6001

www.ediblelandscaper.com



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#1620 From: "Abram Karl-Gruswitz" <abe@...>
Date: Thu Sep 3, 2009 12:57 am
Subject: Re: Preston Hollow Land Collective
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Oh, nuts.  I've never tried to send a message from facebook to
email before.  I didn't know what it would end up like.

Here's the message. . .

Are you looking to live more sustainably? Do your passions
include gardening, fermentation, wildcrafting, natural building,
reforestation, caring for animals and educating/learning from
others? Would you like a cheap and easy way to start your own
sustainable business?
The Preston Hollow Land Collective offers participants a way to
make all those things possible. We are currently looking for new
members who want to be a part of our growing network of cottage
industries, teachers and craftspeople. We aim to experiment with
new methods of trade that promote locally-based, small-scale
products and services. The idea sounds big, but with the right
people, it is VERY doable.
BACKGROUND
* The Land: Situated on a beautiful 110-acre south-facing slope
30 miles south of Albany, Preston Hollow has the potential to
become a vibrant community of landscape designers, artisans and
entrepreneurs whose purpose is to care for and rehabilitate the
Earth while building a sustainable economic model around
small-scale agriculture and craft. Currently, we have one house,
a few barns and an old production apple orchard with mint,
oregano and raspberries growing wild underneath. The property is
bordered by a creek and there is access to 2 additional natural
water sources (a spring and a well). There are 4-5 large fields
that have most likely been terra-formed by loggers and the wooded
area is still young (and in need of some tender love and care as
well). The house is situated in the center of the town of Preston
Hollow (pop: 1,000) and goes back over a mile up the mountain.
For pictures of the location, send an email to the address below.
* The Organization: We have signed a long-term lease with the
landowner with the rights to develop this land as a permaculture
site. In lieu of this, we are looking to build our network of
permaculture enthusiasts who can invest their
time/energy/resources into a cooperative means of subsistence
over the course of the next few years.
CONCEPT
* How it works: Co-op members can be invested in this project in
a variety of ways. They can choose to participate with either a
full-time or part-time presence on the land by proposing a
project based on permaculture principles that could eventually
bring them enough income to cover their cost of living. The co-op
will offer 110% support for individuals with ambitious plans for
their craft or farm-based product by way of fund-raising,
marketing and general labor. A full-time presence on the land
would require a genuine commitment to communal living and pooling
resources. Members can also opt for a part-time presence on the
land if their project does not require constant attention or
isn't necessarily meant to bring in revenue. For example,
Brooklyn artists could use some of the barns as a studio space
(and possibly a show-room), which would bring diversity,
creativity and new skills into the community, and/or a member
could keep beehives on the property and come to collect the
honey/check on the hives once a month. There are many ways to be
involved.
* Example of this model: Part of this land will be used to grow
organic heirloom vegetables for seed by one member of the co-op
for retail, who will then give the flesh of the vegetables to
another member invested in canning/preserves/fermentation. Both
members will make money off of their product, but essentially
share the overhead. Others may choose to invest in livestock,
bees, mushrooms, compost and/or edible perennials to produce
their own value-added products, though our system will be
fully-integrated throughout. Some could even run workshops, host
events, retreats and/or work to rehabilitate the 55 forested
acres along the creek. All fees are negotiable and the co-op
itself exists as a way for people with similar interest to split
the operational costs of their passions.
OBJECTIVES
* The overall vision for the organization is to stack as many
mutually beneficial functions (social and physical) as possible
on one piece of land that could draw small amounts of revenue to
the individual invested in them, but add to the abundance of the
greater community.
* We aim to build community, food security and experiment with a
truly sustainable economic model.
* The parameters of this Collective will all be determined
democratically by the members -- therefore, before we make up any
more rules, we need members! :-)
HOW TO GET INVOLVED
* Contact Mihail Kossev at mihail.kossev@... / 732-492-6001
* Attend our informational gathering...
TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 15th 2009 at 7pm
@ UNNAMEABLE BOOKS
600 Vanderbilt Ave in Brooklyn, NY
Take the B,Q to 7th ave - 2,3 to Bergen - A,C,G to
Clinton-Washington
* then contact Mihail anyway to RSVP :-)
FOOD AND DRINKS AVAILABLE (so come with empty stomachs!) --
DONATIONS WELCOME
The possibilities are endless and the timing is right!
--
Home Harvest / Edible Landscapes
602 Vanderbilt Ave, 3rd Floor
Brooklyn, NY 11238
(732) 492-6001
www.ediblelandscaper.com

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973-786-5396
abe@...
The Emerson Lily Free School
www.emersonlilyfreeschool.org
The Ecovillage New Jersey project
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EcovillageNWNJ

"...if you hyperexploit your surroundings you will deplete them and die;
the only way to survive in the long run is to give back more than you take."
Derrick Jensen



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#1619 From: Abe Karl-Gruswitz <abe@...>
Date: Thu Sep 3, 2009 12:53 am
Subject: Preston Hollow Land Collective
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Abe sent hvecovillage@yahoogroups.com a message on Facebook.



To reply to this message, follow the link below:

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#1618 From: "Elke" <kweenz@...>
Date: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:13 pm
Subject: Communities Conference
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In case anyone doesn't know, the annual Twin Oaks Communities Conference is
this weekend. It's always fun and informative, and for city folk like me, a low
cost refreshing break in the Eastern forest (ahh!)

For more info:
http://www.communitiesconference.org/

-Elke

#1617 From: "A" <readytomove1203@...>
Date: Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:32 pm
Subject: Reduced Course Fee and 10% OFF on 3-Week PDC and Yoga Immersion with Julia and C
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Hi everyone -

Thanks now to the generosity and inspired dedication of the Sivananda ashram and
our instructors, we're offering a lower course fee for folks who will tent on
the property and a few different ways to get an additional 10% off of course
fees by supporting related non-profits. Take a look...
and help spread the word!

Many thanks for everyone's good work.

Alice

--------------------------------

3-Week Permaculture Certification and Yoga Immersion
Aug 9 - 30, 2009
10% OFF for supporting a great non-profit!

PERMACULTURE DESIGN CERTIFICATION COURSE
with daily Yoga and meditation practice at Sivananda Ashram Yoga Ranch in
Woodbourne, NY
with Julia and Charles Yelton, Michael Judd, and guests

Learn practical skills for cultivating peace of mind and living sustainably.
Observe and learn to work with patterns in nature from a place of balance and
center.
Integrate self-care and Earthcare.

'Yoga' means 'union.' While Yoga practice unites individual consciousness with
Universal Consciousness, Permaculture integrates humanity with nature. It is a
fast-growing world-wide movement that offers a whole-systems perspective and
practical solutions to major ecological and social justice challenges. Both
approaches ask us to observe and interact with the world consciously and with
care.

TOPICS COVERED in the internationally-recognized Permaculture Design
Certification curriculum include: Permaculture design ethics and principles;
soils, composting and soil rehabilitation; water conservation, storage and
grey-water systems; food systems, four-season gardening, edible food forestry;
alternative energy systems and building techniques; mapping, topography,
property design, project management, and more.

PROGRAM HIGHLIGHTS

* World-class permaculture teachers with both regional and international
experience
* Yoga immersion in a unique ashram setting
* Daily Yoga, Meditation, and Kirtan
* Organic Vegetarian Meals
* 120+ hrs of permaculture instruction
* Significant Hands-on Project components
* Beautiful 77-acre site in the Catskill Mountains

All are welcome! - No experience with permaculture or yoga is necessary.

PRIMARY INSTRUCTORS JULIA AND CHARLES YELTON have been traveling, teaching and
living Permaculture for the last 18 years. They have developed and implemented
numerous affordable and sustainable development projects around the world and
were named Still Water Research Fellows by the University of Maine, Orono in
2007and 2008, among many other accomplishments. They continue to teach and
design Permaculture systems worldwide and are Co-Directors of the Permaculture
Education Center at the New Forest Institute in Brooks, Maine and founders of
the International Sustainable Living Center at in Caccamo, Sicily (Italy).


COURSE FEES (for 3 week intensive) :
$1800 including tuition and accommodations.
Accommodations include: yoga and meditation instruction daily, delicious organic
vegetarian meals, tent camping with access to bathrooms/showers (you bring the
tent), access to the land, trails, and Russian-style wood-burning sauna.
*Additional fees apply for indoor lodging.

GET 10% OFF course fees - for supporting a yoga or permaculture non-profit with
an annual membership!

Sivananda Ashram Yoga Ranch and Sivananda Yoga Vedanta Centers
Green Yoga Association
Green Phoenix Permaculture

MORE INFORMATION / TO REGISTER
Call Sivananda Ashram Yoga Ranch at 845-436-6492, email
permaculture@... or visit us on the web.
http://bit.ly/oUXNl

See inspiring videos and articles about 'Permaculture and Yoga' here!
http://bit.ly/POlbL

*Please register by August 4, 2009

---
ALSO _ SAVE THE DATES! AUG 29/30 folks are invited join the Yeltons, Michael
Judd, and the PDC students for design presentations and festivities. AUG 22 -
folks are invited to join in for free instruction and to lend a hand for various
hands-on projects around the site, including earthbag construction and other,
TBD. Contact permaculture@... if you're interested. All are welcome to
participate, at no cost, and stay for yoga class and satsang. We ask that you
cover the cost of food and lodging if you join us for meals or stay overnight.
----

#1616 From: "moskitobay" <moskitobay@...>
Date: Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:47 pm
Subject: Earthen Floor and Natural Finishes Workshop
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Earthen Floor and Natural Finishes Workshop
Tivoli, New York: August 5 - 8

Join us and local natural building experts in New York's Hudson Valley
and learn about natural plaster and earthen floors.

Over four days you will gain hands on experience while putting the
finishing touches on a small cob and strawbale construction located on
scenic farm land two hours north of New York City. We will also discuss
the role of natural and green building in Permaculture design.


Fee for a single day is $50 or $175 for all four. Cost of the workshop
is negotiable with compelling reason or possibly work/trade. All fees
are going directly to cover the costs of the workshop itself. Camping is
available!

For more information contact Candice O'Grady: candiceogrady@...
<mailto:candiceogrady@...>  or 646-593-6623


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#1615 From: "Abram Karl-Gruswitz" <abe@...>
Date: Thu Jul 9, 2009 2:55 pm
Subject: Fwd: week long natural building colloquium in Bath NY
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----- Original message -----
From: "DOWN to EARTH Natural Building Listserv "
<sigikoko@...>
To: boyfromthefuture@...
Date: Thu,  9 Jul 2009 05:44:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: week long natural building colloquium in Bath NY


YOU CAN STILL REGISTER FOR THE
NATURAL BUILDING COLLOQUIUM
Sunday July 26 - Saturday August 1, 2009

Register by July 15th & save $75!!!

hosted by the PeaceWeavers
Thunder Mountain Retreat Sanctuary
Bath, NY




Hands on Projects:
Living Roof
Strawbale/Cob Sauna w/Timberframe Roof
Natural Plasters, including finish plaster on Cob Oven

Workshops, Presentations, & Demonstrations
Thatching
Permaculture
Rocket stoves
Cob bird houses
Re-use materials
Hands on sculpting
Scrounging materials
Rainwater collection
Green Building Today
Update on Building Codes
Passive Solar Greenhouses
Solar Hot Water technology
Renewable Energy Systems
Solar Hot Water Technology
Medicinal herbs & "weed" walk
Next Generation Green Buildings
Community Supported Agriculture
Pumping Water without Electricity

with more to come!



  Current Presenters:

    Michael Bainer ~ Laura Bartels ~ Deanne Bednar ~ Kevin Connors ~
    David Eisenberg ~ Peter Gail ~ Sarah Highland ~ Jeff Ingersoll ~
    Chris Jackson ~ Jim Juczak ~ Jim Luckner ~ Sarah Machtey ~
Chris McClellan ~ Dave McMillan ~ Frank Meyer ~ Christina Ott ~ Mark
Piepkorn ~ Darren Port ~ Ed Raduazo ~ Ben Simpson ~ David Vail

Current Cost: $675
Register by July 15th for only $600
  http://peaceweavers.com/bws/  to download registration form

Included in cost: all presentations, workshops, meals and camping
facilities (bucket toilets, port-a-potties, showers, water)

Arrivals are between 1:00 & 5:00 pm  Sunday July 26th with opening
ceremonies, dinner and evening presentation to follow. Event will end
midday on Saturday August 1st. Please call 607-776-4060 or e-mail us at
pw@... .


All projects, presenters, and workshops subject to change.

8125 Crouse Rd., Bath, NY 14810, USA


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Abe Karl-Gruswitz
973-786-5396
abe@...
The Emerson Lily Free School
www.emersonlilyfreeschool.org
The Ecovillage New Jersey project
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EcovillageNWNJ

"...if you hyperexploit your surroundings you will deplete them and die;
the only way to survive in the long run is to give back more than you take."
Derrick Jensen

#1614 From: "Steve Austin" <steve_austin@...>
Date: Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:16 pm
Subject: Visions of Utopia Film Screening tonight!
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June 25

Visions of Utopia Film Screening

http://www.meetup.com/StorySpiral-NYC/calendar/10533397/

Screening of Visions of Utopia followed by Q&A and discussion. This video
documentary features profiles of ten diverse intentional communities and is a
great way to experience a sampling of community life "up close." Peter Lapin
recently returned from the 3 week visitor program at Twin Oaks and will share
his experiences after the film. Steve Austin has visited 3 of the communities
profiled in the film and will also share impressions. For more info and to RSVP
see http://www.meetup.com/StorySpiral-NYC/calendar/10533397/

Ciao Stella
206 Sullivan St (between Bleecker & 3rd St)
7:00 PM
Free




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#1613 From: "Abram Karl-Gruswitz" <abe@...>
Date: Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:15 am
Subject: Fwd: The Skills (& Art) of Sustainability- a 5 day, hands-on Intensive
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----- Original message -----
From: "Diana Leafe Christian" <diana@...>
To: "Diana Leafe Christian" <diana@...>
Cc: "Angela Manno" <amanno@...>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:42:36 -0400
Subject: The Skills (& Art) of Sustainability- a 5 day, hands-on
Intensive
Hello,
My friend Angela Manno is sponsoring this workshop at her School
of Living Arts in New Lebanon, New York.
  If you know anyone you think might want to attend this workshop,
please let them know. Thanks very much.

Diana

   Dear Friends,
   I am pleased and proud to announce the launching of The School
   of Living Arts for Creativity & Ecological Culture, a new
   holistic learning center on 6.5 acres in New Lebanon
   (Berkshires/ Hudson Valley), New York.
   Our first program, “How to Transform a Northeast Homestead
   Into a Model of Sustainability,” is a five-day intensive,
   hands-on designand implementation of Permaculture and
   Biodynamic principles and will take place August 24th-August
   28th, 2009. Taught by Andrew Faust, one of the premier
   Permaculture teachers in North America, this course is open to
   everyone from beginners to graduates of the Permaculture
   Design Certification program.
   Please note that the deadline for registration is July 10th.
   You can read a detailed course description by clicking on:
   [1]http://angelamanno.com/sla/02-dec.html -- and while you're
   there, I invite you to visit all the links including our
   Gallery of Earthly Delights with photos of the grounds and our
   Vision & Mission Statement!
   Please pass this announcement to others who may want to attend
   this event and feel free to be in touch at
   [2]amanno@... with any questions!
   Thanks so much and I hope to hear from you soon!
   Angela
   -------------------------
   Angela Manno
   Founder & Director,
   School of Living Arts for Creativity & Ecological Culture
   [3]amanno@...
   970-275-1525
   www.SchoolLivingArts.com

[4]http://www.DianaLeafeChristian.org
[5]http://www.EcovillageNews.org

References

1. http://angelamanno.com/sla/02-dec.html
2. mailto:amanno@...
3. mailto:amanno@...
4. http://www.DianaLeafeChristian.org/
5. http://www.EcovillageNews.org/
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Abe Karl-Gruswitz
973-786-5396
abe@...
The Emerson Lily Free School
www.emersonlilyfreeschool.org
The Ecovillage New Jersey project
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EcovillageNWNJ

"...if you hyperexploit your surroundings you will deplete them and die;
the only way to survive in the long run is to give back more than you take." 
Derrick Jensen



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#1612 From: Ina Bransome <inabeing@...>
Date: Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:51 pm
Subject: Room in Carroll Gardens Brooklyn
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HI All:

Please forward,

thanks!

Ina



https://post.craigslist.org/manage/1233969216/fp29d

Large, light-filled, lovely, airy, semi-furnished bedroom (9.5x14 ft)
available July 1st  in 2 bedroom apartment, 3 flights walk up, in
very old, small, unique  building with lots of character and a rustic
feel. Apartment has natural wood floors, roof access, collegial
atmosphere among building occupants.

Looking for busy, clean, respectful fully employed person or full
time student. Interns welcome. Short term welcome. Foreign students
welcome. Interest in the environment & gardening, a plus! Limited
overnight guest policy. No smoking, no pets, no pet hair. (I am
allergic, sorry.)

Move in: first month ($835), last month($835), security($500). We
share electricity, gas, high speed internet and once a month cleaning
service,  household necessities, (utilities vary - can come to around
$55 a month; cleaning service about $65 a month). All residents of
the building share the cost of heating oil in the winter months
(depends on price but can come to around. $150 per person per month
Oct-April). Personal and credit references are required.

I am a lady from the 60's now working in the field of childbirth and
a long time Park Slope Food Coop member.  The building is 5 blocks
from the F  & G trains at Carroll St., close to Red Hook, Park Slope,
Dumbo & the East Village. This is Brooklyn's safest, friendliest
neighborhood.  A quick walk or $5 cab to downtown Brooklyn's 2,3,4,5
trains.

Please re-read my post to see if this matches your needs and email or
call Ina 718.522.5380. Note: Bedroom is semi-furnished. Photos show
room fully furnished.


Ina Bransome, PCD, CD (DONA)
Intern Lactation Consultant
www.clearbirth.com
Mentoring & Relief for Parents & Newborns
Newborn Contentment/Newborn Fluency
718.522.5380
646.708.5427
427







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#1611 From: Ina Bransome <inabeing@...>
Date: Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:48 am
Subject: support young farmers today!
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Come one Come all!



COME to Carroll Gardens!! $5 entrance includes one beer!

Saturday June 20 from 2 to 9 PM -  a fundraiser in the "Farmacy"
storefront at 513 Henry St near Sackett in Carroll Gardens

for the film in progress being written about the growing movement of
young farmers:

www.thegreenhorns.net

It's also a coming out party for the building - because the store
front has been cleared!

http://gothamist.com/2009/06/09/mysterious_brooklyn_pharmacy_to_hos.php


Rooftop garden workshops
short film screenings
Live Music
Performance by Reverend Billy and the Church of Stop Shopping Choir
Ice cream cones
beer
goat sandwiches
burgers
tabling + merchanidise

Come see the ENORMOUS vegetable garden on the deck

Celebrate a milestone and support young farmers!

Hoping to see you!

Ina

Co-Founder, Green Phoenix Permaculture


www.clearbirth.com


Ina Bransome, PCD, CD (DONA)
Intern Lactation Consultant
www.clearbirth.com
Mentoring & Relief for Parents & Newborns
Newborn Contentment/Newborn Fluency
718.522.5380
646.708.5427



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#1610 From: "Abram Karl-Gruswitz" <abe@...>
Date: Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:25 am
Subject: Fwd: Re: Groups
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----- Original message -----
From: "Yahoo! Groups" <egroups-feedback@...>
To: abe@...
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:21:28 -0700
Subject: Re: Groups - Othe  (KMM151449211V70839L0KM)

Hello Abe,

Thank you for contacting Yahoo! Groups Customer Care.

I understand you have concerns regarding the moderation of the Yahoo!
group "HVEcovillage". I do apologize for any inconvenience.

Abe, we are sorry to inform you that due to our Privacy Policy, we
cannot appoint a new owner/moderator to the group. I do understand your
situation and concern. Please keep in mind that Group owners have total
control over their Group and Yahoo! does not operate or maintain Groups.
We give Group owners the tools to create and run their own communities.
In any case, we apologize for any inconvenience.

I encourage you to contact the Group owner to express your concern or
feedback. To contact the Group owner, you may send a message to:

    HVEcovillage-owner@yahoogroups.com

If the owner cannot be contacted, an option available for you is to
create your own group and send out invitations to those people who you
would like to join your new group.

We realize that this may pose an inconvenience, and for this we
sincerely apologize. We appreciate your understanding with this matter.

Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Groups Customer Care.

Regards,

Solomon

Yahoo! Customer Care

Be sure to check the Official Yahoo! Groups Blog for more information
and the latest updates about Yahoo! Groups.

    http://www.ygroupsblog.com/blog/
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Abe Karl-Gruswitz
973-786-5396
abe@...
The Emerson Lily Free School
www.emersonlilyfreeschool.org
The Ecovillage New Jersey project
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EcovillageNWNJ

"...if you hyperexploit your surroundings you will deplete them and die;
the only way to survive in the long run is to give back more than you take."
Derrick Jensen

#1609 From: Sean Maley <semaley@...>
Date: Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:22 pm
Subject: Re: re: spam
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Spammers still come in through requests, except for the obvious email
addresses. It's best to ask for some sort of statement as a requirement for
acceptance into the email group. You have to ban them immediately when they
inevitably slip through.


-Sean.
--- On Thu, 6/18/09, Abram Karl-Gruswitz <abe@...> wrote:

From: Abram Karl-Gruswitz <abe@...>
Subject: [HVEcovillage] re: spam
To: HVEcovillage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 4:40 PM

Alright, it looks like I can't add anyone as moderator, as only a moderator (and
not owner). I sent a message to Yahoo asking for help.

I did erase the spammers and recent spam messages. I can't change the settings
to make people have to ask for membership to avoid spammers.

Peace,

Abe



------------------------------------

  This is the Mailing list for the Hudson Valley Ecovillage planning group.
Please be considerate regarding the fwding of messages not directly related to
the group.Yahoo! Groups Links








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#1608 From: "Abram Karl-Gruswitz" <abe@...>
Date: Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:40 pm
Subject: re: spam
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Alright, it looks like I can't add anyone as moderator, as only a moderator (and
not owner).  I sent a message to Yahoo asking for help.

I did erase the spammers and recent spam messages.  I can't change the settings
to make people have to ask for membership to avoid spammers.

Peace,

Abe

#1607 From: "Abram Karl-Gruswitz" <abe@...>
Date: Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:49 pm
Subject: Re: taking over moderation of this list? any takers?
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I'm a moderator on the listserve, not an owner.  I'm sorry I
haven't kept up with spam monitoring.  I'm not sure, but a
moderator might be able to add other moderators.  I know a
moderator is limited on what he/she can change in the setttings.
If I can, I'd be glad to add others on, if you can help out.

Peace,

Abe


On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:29 -0400, "Sustainable Land Stewardship
Alliance" <stewardshipalliance@...> wrote:

Hi folks,
I am one of the owners of this list, but i have closed the email
account
that i started it with, forgot my password etc so can't figure
out how to
help with the spam. and anyway I am too busy on other projects to
do a good
job of moderating this list in any case If folks want to keep
this list
alive, and if anyone knows their way around yahoo and can take
that on, pls
let me know and i will help however i can. or people could shut
this down
and start a new list
i am going to take myself off the list because of the spam, so
then there
won't be an owner!
right now i am busy with HVCALT.org and RegenerationCSA.
org both of which
we are working to grow into wider community-based efforts. we are
focussing
on agricultural land protection, but that will also include a
housing
component. if anyone has an interest, pls come by.
best,
kevin
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Abe Karl-Gruswitz
973-786-5396
abe@...
The Emerson Lily Free School
www.emersonlilyfreeschool.org
The Ecovillage New Jersey project
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EcovillageNWNJ

"...if you hyperexploit your surroundings you will deplete them and die;
the only way to survive in the long run is to give back more than you take."
Derrick Jensen



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#1606 From: Sustainable Land Stewardship Alliance <stewardshipalliance@...>
Date: Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:29 pm
Subject: taking over moderation of this list? any takers?
stewardsh
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Hi folks,
I am one of the owners of this list, but i have closed the email account
that i started it with, forgot my password etc so can't figure out how to
help with the spam. and anyway I  am too busy on other projects to do a good
job of moderating this list in any case  If folks want to keep this list
alive, and if anyone knows their way around yahoo and can take that on, pls
let me know and i will help however i can. or people could shut this down
and start a new list

i am going to take myself off the list because of the spam, so then there
won't be an owner!

right now i am busy with HVCALT.org   and RegenerationCSA.org both of which
we are working to grow into wider community-based efforts. we are focussing
on agricultural land protection, but that will also include a housing
component. if anyone has an interest, pls come by.

best,
kevin


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#1600 From: "Sara" <saraida@...>
Date: Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:23 am
Subject: Re: New group description
SaraIda
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-Yes--we are interested and hopeful! My husband Yonah and our toddler and I live
in upper Manhattan. We're certified in permaculture design and we're very eager
to put our knowledge to use and to live in a community nearby. Has anyone read
Ecovillage Ithaca by Sue Walker? It offers so many insights about what it takes
to form and sustain such a community and I found it to be very helpful in giving
a realistic picture of how much energy and work is involved, and in what
wonderful rewards there are.
Sara

-- In HVEcovillage@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Todd" <gn.todd@...> wrote:
>
> There is a co-housing effort starting up in Brooklyn NY.  They've got a
contract for a site in Park Slope and are looking for members.  Contact Sue Wolf
for more information at (718) 923-8037.
> Thanks,
> Greg
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Oasis654@...
>   To: HVEcovillage@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:45 AM
>   Subject: Re: [HVEcovillage] Re: New group description
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   sure lets give it a try, where is everyone located?? i'm near albany, geo
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: lizzyw67 <lizzyw67@...>
>   To: HVEcovillage@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:23 pm
>   Subject: [HVEcovillage] Re: New group description
>
>   Anyone interested in discussing an urban cohousing group in the Hudson
Valley area.
>
>   --- In HVEcovillage@yahoogroups.com, "Susanne" <susiecara@> wrote:
>
>   >
>
>   > Hi, i just joined too, i read an article about cohousing in a magazine so
did a search and this was the closest group I could find, disappointed it's not
a "real" ongoing effort. I would love to be involved if a group could
reenergize.
>
>   >
>
>   > Susie
>
>   >
>
>   > --- In HVEcovillage@yahoogroups.com, "pauleknapp" <pauleknapp@> wrote:
>
>   > >
>
>   > > Hi everyone,
>
>   > >
>
>   > > I just joined this group and to my dismay it looks like it's defunct. Is
their anyone still out there interested in starting something in the Hudson
Valley?
>
>   > >
>
>   > > Thanks,
>
>   > > Paul
>
>   > >
>
>   > >
>
>   > >
>
>   > > --- In HVEcovillage@yahoogroups.com, "kskvorak" <k.skvorak@> wrote:
>
>   > > >
>
>   > > > from: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/HVEcovillage/
>
>   > > >
>
>   > > > This is the former Mailing list for the Hudson Valley Ecovillage
planning group.
>
>   > > >
>
>   > > > The group is not currently having regular meetings, but that can
change if people want to
>
>   > > > reenergize it.
>
>   > > > Please feel free to use this list to connect with like minded people
in the Hudson valley
>
>   > > > and beyond.
>
>   > > >
>
>   > > > Excerpt of our former Vision Statement:
>
>   > > > Our Vision is to design a culture and practice of a nurturing,
collaborative, sustainable
>
>   > > > model of living that chooses social and environmental responsibility,
diversity and
>
>   > > > creativity.
>
>   > > >
>
>   > > > It is within the ecovillage model that we see the greatest
opportunities for serving the
>
>   > > > widest range of peoples needs. To house ourselves we will work
together to build
>
>   > > > affordable, low impact, high efficiency shared and individual
cohousing units, set within a
>
>   > > > permaculture designed community with such practical 'innovations' as
constructed
>
>   > > > wetlands for treating and recycling greywater, shared greenhouses,
passive and active
>
>   > > > solar heating, and edible landscaping.
>
>   > > >
>
>   > >
>
>   >
>
>   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Greg Todd
> 718-496-5139
> gn.todd@...
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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