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Dear Soumen Aditya, I have sent the Haworthia agnis article via e-mail in 6
parts, hope you received it without problem.
Regards.
Ferbabdo Fernandez

Greetings Aloaceae Aficionados,
 
About a week ago I offered two clones of Gasteria to interested members of this
group. At the time I was not able to provide photos of what these clones look
like. I can now do that and am setting up an album in our Photos section. The
relevant album is entitled: "AAA-Gasteria clones".
 
To refresh memories, on offer are two clonotypes: that is, exactly identical
plants to the one that was used to name the species, in this case Gasteria
glomerata and Gasteria batesiana. I have included photos of these clones as they
appear when completely mature. The two glomerata plants for sale are almost as
large as the example plant. The several plants available of Gasteria batesiana,
the clonotype, are small offsets, though "grown on", with complete and vital
root systems - they are not just taken off the mother plant (which is shown in
the photos of that species).
 
I took photos of these plants in sunlight and in bright indirect light to give a
better idea of their coloration. Please note also that the clone of glomerata is
different from those commonly offered. The clonotype of glomerata is very much
smaller, much more compact and of a different color. A good representation of it
is in van Jaarsveld's book depicted in the color plate illustration by Ellaphie
Ward-Hilhorst. Same with the batesiana.
 
In addition to offering the two clonotypes, any and all who buy these clones
will receive, FREE OF CHARGE, an offset of Gasteria glauca, of which I have also
included a photo showing the offsets from the mother plant, all now bare-root
from just having been divided this last week.
 
If interested contact me privately via my email. Costs for plants are nominal.
All plants are shipped via U.S. Postal Service flat rate Priority Mail box,
which costs $5.00, to anywhere in the USA. I also endeavor to work out ways to
ship internationally; these shipments cost considerably more in postage charges.
 
Thanks for your interest and attention.
Breck, co-Moderator.




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I am interested in your gasteria.
Please let me know total cost and how would you like to recieve the money.
Thank you,
Matilda Morabito
morabitm@...

--- On Thu, 8/20/09, Breck Breckenridge <gasteriaphile@...> wrote:


From: Breck Breckenridge <gasteriaphile@...>
Subject: [Haworthia] Gasteria offerings
To: "List Yahoo Haworthia" <Haworthia@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 2:28 PM


 




Greetings Aloaceae Aficionados,
 
About a week ago I offered two clones of Gasteria to interested members of this
group. At the time I was not able to provide photos of what these clones look
like. I can now do that and am setting up an album in our Photos section. The
relevant album is entitled: "AAA-Gasteria clones".
 
To refresh memories, on offer are two clonotypes: that is, exactly identical
plants to the one that was used to name the species, in this case Gasteria
glomerata and Gasteria batesiana. I have included photos of these clones as they
appear when completely mature. The two glomerata plants for sale are almost as
large as the example plant. The several plants available of Gasteria batesiana,
the clonotype, are small offsets, though "grown on", with complete and vital
root systems - they are not just taken off the mother plant (which is shown in
the photos of that species).
 
I took photos of these plants in sunlight and in bright indirect light to give a
better idea of their coloration. Please note also that the clone of glomerata is
different from those commonly offered. The clonotype of glomerata is very much
smaller, much more compact and of a different color. A good representation of it
is in van Jaarsveld's book depicted in the color plate illustration by Ellaphie
Ward-Hilhorst. Same with the batesiana.
 
In addition to offering the two clonotypes, any and all who buy these clones
will receive, FREE OF CHARGE, an offset of Gasteria glauca, of which I have also
included a photo showing the offsets from the mother plant, all now bare-root
from just having been divided this last week.
 
If interested contact me privately via my email. Costs for plants are nominal.
All plants are shipped via U.S. Postal Service flat rate Priority Mail box,
which costs $5.00, to anywhere in the USA. I also endeavor to work out ways to
ship internationally; these shipments cost considerably more in postage charges.
 
Thanks for your interest and attention.
Breck, co-Moderator.

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I have promised all of the Gasteria glomerata offsets, there are no more to be
had. There are still a number of Gasteria batesiana offsets of the clonotype.
With each sale of a batesiana one will also receive por gratis an offset of
Gasteria glauca. Breck





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The NW Cactus Mart has had to move to a new location because the old is to be
pulled down to make way for library.

The 2010 event will be held on Saturday 17 April at Middleton, near Manchester.
Access is by the M60 ring road with no town or city driving.
For further information and to book sales space please contact Philip Barker at
phillip@...

Harry Mays
Editor, Alsterworthia International.
Coordinator, Cultivar Project
World Agent, Haworthia Study
Woodsleigh, Moss Lane
St Michaels on Wyre
Preston, PR3 0TY
UK
email. hmays@...

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As some of you will know this project is designed to locate and verify
cultivar names for the genera Aloe, Gasteria, Haworthia, related small
genera and their nothogenera. The end products will be lists of cultivars
for which the original publications have been traced and lists for which
they have not. From time to time soft cover books will be published
describing and illustrating cultivars for which we have traced the original
publications and for some for which we have not, but for which we can be
reasonably certain that the names have been published in accordance with the
ICNCP. The first volume is now being printed.

Hybrids & Cultivars of the Succulent Asphodelaceae Volume 1 (Aloe,
Astroloba, Bulbine, Gasteria, and nothogenera.)
ISBN 978-0-9552726-4-6

80 A4 pages - gloss paper with card cover.
Over 200 colour photographs - cultivar photos normally 4 to an A4  page.
Recommended retail price is £29.50 + uninsured surface postage - Europe
£3.00, rest of the world £4.50

Alsterworthia International member's, and non-members who have assisted with
the cultivar project, are entitled to a  discount (one only per person) when
ordering from Alsterworthia International, NOT from bookdealers.

Payments may be made via PayPal but please add 4% to cover deductions made
by PayPal.

Contents. Volume 1.
Editorial Observations 2-3
The Creation & Naming of Cultivars 4-6
Validly Published Nothogenus Names. 5
Gene Flow For Nothogenera 6
Propagation & Cultivation 7-18
Aloe cultivars 19-40
Hybrids with formula names 41-42
Astroloba cultivar 43
Bulbine cultivars 44
Nothogenera cultivars 45-59
Gasteria cultivars 60-74
Plant index 75-76

Volume 2 for haworthias will be published in 2010. Before then we would like
your comments on Volume 1 so that we can ensure that it meets the
requirements of as many people as possible. Please sent comments and
suggestions and any further offer of help with the cultivar project direct
to me.

Harry Mays
Editor, Alsterworthia International.
Coordinator, Cultivar Project
World Agent, Haworthia Study
Woodsleigh, Moss Lane
St Michaels on Wyre
Preston, PR3 0TY
UK
email. hmays@...

We are now in the process of printing Bruce Bayer's Essays on Haworthia
Volume 5. Details are:

199 A4 pages, gloss art paper, card cover.
ISBN 978-0-9552726-4-6
Recommended price  £49.50  +  £4 uninsured surface mail postage.
Alsterworthia International members are entitled to a discount (one copy
each) provided the book is ordered direct from Alsterworthia International,
NOT FROM BOOKDEALERS.

Contents.
Part 1.
Chapter 1. Winding down on Haworthia.      1-2
Chapter 2. Haworthia Reality Check       3-4
Chapter 3. Haworthia deglamorized.  A recapitulation.   5-18
Chapter 4. Haworthia retusa          19-38
Chapter 5. Haworthia mirabilis      39-70
Chapter 6. Haworthia floribunda. 71-83
Chapter 7. Haworthia minima 84-90
Plant and other colour photographs index 90-91
  Part 2.
Chapter 8. An extension of H. rossouwii. 92-95
Chapter 9. More on H. floribunda and H. mirabilis. 96-101
Chapter 10. Haworthia 'enigma'  and H.. mutica var. nigra. 102-128
Chapter 11. What is Haworthia schoemanii? 129-132
Chapter 12. More on H. venosa 'granulata' 133-138
Chapter 13. A February 2009 miscellany. 139-166
Chapter 14. Haworthia jakubii - another new species? 167-169
Chapter 15. A view of Haworthia marumiana 'dimorpha' 170-181
Chapter 16. New populations of Haworthia chloracantha, H. parksiana
                     and H. kingiana. 182-191
Haworthia species list - Bruce Bayer Feb 22nd 2009 192-193
Acknowledgements 194
Plant and other colour photographs index 195-196
Haworthia Study 196
Haworthia Books by Bruce Bayer, Ingo Breuer & Dr. M. Hayashi 197
Alsterworthia International 198-199

PLEASE NOTE.

We print all articles in their entirety with ALL PHOTOS,
which are an essential part of Bayer's writings, not only for his species
concept, but also because they constitute a photographic herbarium of
habitat plants essential
for all scientists and hobbyists seriously interested in the subject.

Alsterworthia International is  happy to share information for the common
good, which is why our policy is to promote and facilitate the publication
of information without favour or gain.  Therefore, copyright for that which
Alsterworthia International publishes is NOT reserved to Alsterworthia
International. It is the property of the author. Bayer gladly allows other
publishers to make use of his articles in whole or in part.
Acknowledgements would of course be appreciated.

Harry Mays
Editor, Alsterworthia International.
Coordinator, Cultivar Project
World Agent, Haworthia Study
Woodsleigh, Moss Lane
St Michaels on Wyre
Preston, PR3 0TY
UK
email. hmays@...

Hello all
  Haworthia attenuata zebra plant
  http://sabbaar.blogspot.com/2009/09/haworthia-attenuata.html
  thanks

I am looking for information about this cultivar... can anyone help?

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the Haworthia
group.

   File        : /Free Tillandsia/T-duratii.jpg
   Uploaded by : gasteriaphile <gasteriaphile@...>
   Description : Tillandsia duratii from Bolivia

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Haworthia/files/Free%20Tillandsia/T-duratii.jpg

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
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Regards,

gasteriaphile <gasteriaphile@...>

If like me some of  you all like other plants besides our beloved Aloaceae, I
have a little freebie for those of you who have also a passion for the genus
Tillandsia. I know of no other venue where I can reach gardeners who might be
interested in this offer so I apologize in advance for mentioning a plant group
other than our specialty.

Before I was an haworthiaphile and gasteriaphile, I was a cactophiler. And
before that I was a tillandsiaphile. I went on several plant collecting
expeditions to places like Mexico, and Jamaica and Florida looking for and at
tillandsias, which are a kind of extreme atmospheric bromeliad.

Anyway, recently I made the acquaintance of a cactophiler in Boliva, an ex-pat
Brit, named Brian Bates. Some of you all might know him? Well Brian and I have
traded plants back and forth over the
  years, mainly cacti, and recently I asked him if he ever saw any tillandsias to
send some to me. Months went by and then just this last 2 weeks surprise! a box
from Bolivia full of tillandsias!!

Upon opening it I saw three different species: T. recurvata, T. caliginosa and
lots and lots of Tillandsia duratii. In fact, SO MUCH T. duratii that I simply
cannot use all of it. I do not relish throwing healthy plants away esp. those
that have come to me from so far away. So, what to do?

I decided to ask you all. If there are any of you interested in some free T.
duratii then write to me directly and privately. I will send you the plants at
no cost but only for the postage and shipping costs to me. First come, first
served.

I have posted a photo of Tillandsia duratii on our Files section, under the
album "Free Tillandsia". It is a stock photo not one of my particular plants but
it is quite accurate in how they look. This is a largish tillandsia reaching
perhaps 30 cm. in length top to bottom. The bottom-most leaves eventually die
but stay on to help anchor the plant to its branch. This is a xeric tillandsia
that does not need high humidity. It was collected 3 weeks ago in the regional
city of Sucre, in southern Bolivia.

Anyway, let me know if you are interested.
Cheers, Breck, co-Moderator





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----- Original Message -----
   From: Breck Breckenridge<mailto:gasteriaphile@...>
   To: List Yahoo Haworthia<mailto:Haworthia@yahoogroups.com>
   Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:21 PM
   Subject: [Haworthia] Free Tillandsia


     If like me some of  you all like other plants besides our beloved Aloaceae,
I have a little freebie for those of you who have also a passion for the genus
Tillandsia. I know of no other venue where I can reach gardeners who might be
interested in this offer so I apologize in advance for mentioning a plant group
other than our specialty.

   Before I was an haworthiaphile and gasteriaphile, I was a cactophiler. And
before that I was a tillandsiaphile. I went on several plant collecting
expeditions to places like Mexico, and Jamaica and Florida looking for and at
tillandsias, which are a kind of extreme atmospheric bromeliad.

   Anyway, recently I made the acquaintance of a cactophiler in Boliva, an ex-pat
Brit, named Brian Bates. Some of you all might know him? Well Brian and I have
traded plants back and forth over the
   years, mainly cacti, and recently I asked him if he ever saw any tillandsias
to send some to me. Months went by and then just this last 2 weeks surprise! a
box from Bolivia full of tillandsias!!

   Upon opening it I saw three different species: T. recurvata, T. caliginosa and
lots and lots of Tillandsia duratii. In fact, SO MUCH T. duratii that I simply
cannot use all of it. I do not relish throwing healthy plants away esp. those
that have come to me from so far away. So, what to do?

   I decided to ask you all. If there are any of you interested in some free T.
duratii then write to me directly and privately. I will send you the plants at
no cost but only for the postage and shipping costs to me. First come, first
served.

   I have posted a photo of Tillandsia duratii on our Files section, under the
album "Free Tillandsia". It is a stock photo not one of my particular plants but
it is quite accurate in how they look. This is a largish tillandsia reaching
perhaps 30 cm. in length top to bottom. The bottom-most leaves eventually die
but stay on to help anchor the plant to its branch. This is a xeric tillandsia
that does not need high humidity. It was collected 3 weeks ago in the regional
city of Sucre, in southern Bolivia.

   Anyway, let me know if you are interested.
   Cheers, Breck, co-Moderator

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----- Original Message -----
   From: Breck Breckenridge<mailto:gasteriaphile@...>
   To: List Yahoo Haworthia<mailto:Haworthia@yahoogroups.com>
   Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:21 PM
   Subject: [Haworthia] Free Tillandsia


     If like me some of  you all like other plants besides our beloved Aloaceae,
I have a little freebie for those of you who have also a passion for the genus
Tillandsia. I know of no other venue where I can reach gardeners who might be
interested in this offer so I apologize in advance for mentioning a plant group
other than our specialty.

   Before I was an haworthiaphile and gasteriaphile, I was a cactophiler. And
before that I was a tillandsiaphile. I went on several plant collecting
expeditions to places like Mexico, and Jamaica and Florida looking for and at
tillandsias, which are a kind of extreme atmospheric bromeliad.

   Anyway, recently I made the acquaintance of a cactophiler in Boliva, an ex-pat
Brit, named Brian Bates. Some of you all might know him? Well Brian and I have
traded plants back and forth over the
   years, mainly cacti, and recently I asked him if he ever saw any tillandsias
to send some to me. Months went by and then just this last 2 weeks surprise! a
box from Bolivia full of tillandsias!!

   Upon opening it I saw three different species: T. recurvata, T. caliginosa and
lots and lots of Tillandsia duratii. In fact, SO MUCH T. duratii that I simply
cannot use all of it. I do not relish throwing healthy plants away esp. those
that have come to me from so far away. So, what to do?

   I decided to ask you all. If there are any of you interested in some free T.
duratii then write to me directly and privately. I will send you the plants at
no cost but only for the postage and shipping costs to me. First come, first
served.

   I have posted a photo of Tillandsia duratii on our Files section, under the
album "Free Tillandsia". It is a stock photo not one of my particular plants but
it is quite accurate in how they look. This is a largish tillandsia reaching
perhaps 30 cm. in length top to bottom. The bottom-most leaves eventually die
but stay on to help anchor the plant to its branch. This is a xeric tillandsia
that does not need high humidity. It was collected 3 weeks ago in the regional
city of Sucre, in southern Bolivia.

   Anyway, let me know if you are interested.
   Cheers, Breck, co-Moderator

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I have promised all of the free tillandsias I have to give away.
Five lucky recipients got them.
Sorry there were not more.
Breck

Hi there. A week ago I announced that I had some extra Tillandsia duratii to
give away. Subsequently I did get five interested parties who wanted these. One
of these people has decided not to accept my offer, and so, I now have one T.
duratii available to the first person who contacts me. This particular specimen
is the largest I received from Bolivia and would make an outstanding study
specimen. I also have an extra plant of Tillandsia caliginosa which I will
include in with the duratii. Cost to you is $20 for flat-rate, large box,
Priority mail shipping, anhwhere in the USA. If interested please contact me
directly via my private email and NOT via the on-line message board, Cheers,
Breck, co-Moderator




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Hope this helps.

Haworthia  'Rose Green' H.C.K. Mak


Description. Alsterworthia International 3(2)7.



Parentage. Haworthia truncata x Haworthia magnifica


  Harry Mays
Editor, Alsterworthia International.
Coordinator, Cultivar Project
World Agent, Haworthia Study
Woodsleigh, Moss Lane
St Michaels on Wyre
Preston, PR3 0TY
UK
email. hmays@...





   ----- Original Message -----
   From: lindsey3ld
   To: Haworthia@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:25 PM
   Subject: [Haworthia] Haworthia 'Rose Green'


   I am looking for information about this cultivar... can anyone help  .



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I have a H. 'Green Rose' from Rainbow Gardens from as early as 1993?but don't
know if it is the same. My notes say it may have come from Burk's at some time.



John, The Haworthia Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: H.Mays <hmays@...>
To: Haworthia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, Oct 13, 2009 12:20 pm
Subject: Re: [Haworthia] Haworthia 'Rose Green'







Hope this helps.

Haworthia 'Rose Green' H.C.K. Mak


Description. Alsterworthia International 3(2)7.

Parentage. Haworthia truncata x Haworthia magnifica

Harry Mays
Editor, Alsterworthia International.
Coordinator, Cultivar Project
World Agent, Haworthia Study
Woodsleigh, Moss Lane
St Michaels on Wyre
Preston, PR3 0TY
UK
email. hmays@...

----- Original Message -----
From: lindsey3ld
To: Haworthia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:25 PM
Subject: [Haworthia] Haworthia 'Rose Green'

I am looking for information about this cultivar... can anyone help .

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Thanks, Harry... and John ... it does look like a green rose flower with
succulent petals :)

--- In Haworthia@yahoogroups.com, Lindsey <lindsey3ld@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Harry... and John ... it does look like a green rose flower with
succulent petals :)
>


Hi Lindsey

This sounds like the same "Green Rose", that I have and given that Harry states
that it's truncata X magnifica, I am not sure the plant we have is the same
plant, as I would have said the plant I have has cymbiformis as a parent, it
certainly does not demonstrate any traits of the two plants Harry mentions.

Bill

Some nothogenera (hybrid genera) names have been the subject of discussion
recently.

Names for crosses between genera (nothogenera) are created under the provisions
of the International Code for Botanical Nomenclature (ICBN) Appendix 1.
Different names have been published over many decades. Some of these are invalid
under the ICBN but still persist in collections and on sales plants. They should
be eliminated. Some are valid but obsolete because some genera have been
absorbed in other genera. In some cases the absorptions of some genera into
others is accepted by some but rejected by other, consequently there are
different validly published nothogenera names which made be used depending on
which classification you accept.

The published names can be traced in a number of different journals and books
published over many year and also in the Repertorium Plantarum Succulentarum
published by the International Organisation for Succulent Plant Study (IOS). It
takes time and some money to trace these. Of course some individuals have made
the effort to do this and have compiled  lists of validly published nothogenus
names.  Gordon Rowley has done this and has generously made the lists available
to Alsterworthia International (as part of the Cultivar Project). Alsterworthia
International members already have this list but I thought that you might like
to know that it has been published for general use in CULTIVARS OF THE
ASPHODELACEAE VOLUME 1 - ALOE, ASTROLOBA, BULBINE, GASTERIA AND THEIR
NOTHOGENERA, the first volume resulting from the Cultivar Project. It can be
ordered from bookseller.


Harry Mays
Editor, Alsterworthia International.
Coordinator, Cultivar Project
World Agent, Haworthia Study
Woodsleigh, Moss Lane
St Michaels on Wyre
Preston, PR3 0TY
UK
email. hmays@...



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Bill,

Would it be possible please for you to send me a photo of your 'Rose Green' so
that I can try to sort our if different cultivars have been given the same name?

Harry Mays
Editor, Alsterworthia International.
Coordinator, Cultivar Project
World Agent, Haworthia Study
Woodsleigh, Moss Lane
St Michaels on Wyre
Preston, PR3 0TY
UK
email. hmays@...



----- Original Message -----
   From: Bill
   To: Haworthia@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:45 PM
   Subject: [Haworthia] Re: Haworthia 'Rose Green'

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The contents of the November 2009 Alsterworthia International are:

Bastard Beauties. Gerhard Marx, South Africa.
Detailed article dealing with the creation of haworthia hybrids by selecting
habitat clones for crossing. 15 new cultivars rivalling the best Japanese are
published.

Molecular phylogenetic studies in Haworthia Duval (Asphodelaceae) S. Ramdhani,
M.B.B. Bayer, R.M. Cowling & N.P. Barker, South Africa.
Material & methods covering DNA extraction, amplification & sequencing are
outlined and discussed.
A Bayesian inference tree of the ITS1 region estimated using the HKY+G model and
one of the trnL-F  spacer estimated using the GTR+G Model are produced.

Japanese Cultivar Names. Harry Mays, UK
Brief introduction dealing with the latest developments in Japan to rationalise
Japanese cultivar names in accordance with the ICNCP followed by

Haworthia cultivars published in Haworthia study 1-20. Dr M. Hayashi.
A schedule of cultivar names used in Haworthia Study 1 to 20 with corrections
and supporting details to comply with the ICNCP. This is a major contribution to
converting traditional practices in naming plants for domestic purposes to one
for international use.

Gasteria 'Perfection' Harry Mays
Replaces Gasteria 'Perfectus' published in Haworthiad 12(2)69. As Perfectus is
Latin it is an invalid name under the ICNCP.

The Cultivar Project (with details) and its first publication:

Hybrids & Cultivars of the Succulent Asphodelaceae Volume 1 - Aloe, Astoloba,
Bulbine, Gasteria & Nothogenera.

Contents
Editorial Observations
The creation and naming of cultivars
Validly Published Nothogenus Names
Gene Flow for Nothogenra
Propagation & Cultivation
Aloe cultivars
Hybrids with formula names
Astroloba cultivar
Bulbine cultivars
Nothogenera cultivars
Gasteria cultivars
Plant index.

80A4 pages - gloss art paper, card cover
Over 200 colour illustrations
Recommended retail price £29.50 + postage (£3.00 Europe, £4.50 rest of the
world.
Order from bookdealers or in case of difficulty contact Harry Mays.

Six New Cultivars from India. Soumen Aditya, India.

Because of lack of space the 2009 plant index is postponed to the March 2010
journal.

For further information please contact me direct.

Harry Mays
Editor, Alsterworthia International.
Coordinator, Cultivar Project
World Agent, Haworthia Study
Woodsleigh, Moss Lane
St Michaels on Wyre
Preston, PR3 0TY
UK
email. hmays@...


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Good morning,

I just joined this group and, following the suggestion on the welcome mail,
here's a little something about me:

My name is Jose Fabiao (Z for short), I live in Lisbon, Portugal. Our climate is
mediterranean, like some parts of California, and a lot of people keep
Haworthias on their gardens and balconies all year round (H. attenuata, H.
reinwardtii, H. retusa and H. cymbiformis - or something that looks a lot like
them). I guess it's safe to keep a number of species outside. :)

I have grown cacti and Lithops for a number of years and only recently became
interested in Haworthias. For now I'm treating my Haworthias like cacti (albeit
with a little more water) and I hope you can help me fine tune my cultivation
skills.

Oh, and I will probably bore you with ID requests. I'm a big fan of garden
center plants (mostly because they're inexpensive) and you know how they seldom
come with a label - any label, let alone a correct one.

That's it. Thank you,

Z

Greetings Z,

      Welcome to our group. Sounds like you have an ideal place to grow plants. 
You'll have to make sure your Haworthias do not get burnt from the sun.  I grow
mine in straight Turface MVP and water weekly, but you'll have to adjust that if
your keeping them outside.  Good luck and have fun!

Pamela

Hi Pam, what does the "MVP" mean after the tradename Turface? Breck

--- In Haworthia@yahoogroups.com, "Pamela" <pjstegmaier@...> wrote:
>
> Greetings Z,
>
>      Welcome to our group. Sounds like you have an ideal place to grow plants.
You'll have to make sure your Haworthias do not get burnt from the sun.  I grow
mine in straight Turface MVP and water weekly, but you'll have to adjust that if
your keeping them outside.  Good luck and have fun!
>
> Pamela
>

>  Original message from "Breck" <gasteriaphile@...>:

> Hi Pam, what does the "MVP" mean after the tradename Turface?

Breck,

Turface is produced in various particle sizes. As far as I can tell, MVP is
simply a product identifier used to distinguish it from other Turface products.

http://profileproducts.com/sports_fields/

Ken
East S.F. Bay Area
USDA Zone 9

just a guess--since turface was intended, among other things, to help dry
wet spots on ball fields, it might be 'most valuable player'..
cohan

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Breck <gasteriaphile@...> wrote:

> Hi Pam, what does the "MVP" mean after the tradename Turface? Breck
>
> --- In Haworthia@yahoogroups.com, "Pamela" <pjstegmaier@...> wrote:
> >
> > Greetings Z,
> >
> >      Welcome to our group. Sounds like you have an ideal place to grow
> plants.  You'll have to make sure your Haworthias do not get burnt from the
> sun.  I grow mine in straight Turface MVP and water weekly, but you'll have
> to adjust that if your keeping them outside.  Good luck and have fun!
> >
> > Pamela
> >
>
>
>
>


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Hello all,my name is Ashraf ,from Libya .
I am collector cacti and succulent plants.

Hi Breck,

    As far as I can tell there are different varieties of turface used for
different purposes.  Turface MVP has the largest partical size of calcined clay.
There are at least 4 products made up with different combinations or other
materials.  MVP is ONLY calcined clay.

   Turface MVP is ideal for mixing in native soil to prevent compaction and amend
poor soils during construction or renovation. It holds moisture and nutrients in
your turf and increases drainage as a result of balanced air and water pore
space.

MVP can also be used as a topdressing prior to events when rain is forecast to
absorb initial rainfall, add traction for athletes and prevent turf damage.
Pouring MVP directly on muddy areas will instantly absorb the excess water and
turn it into a dry, safe surface.

     I've used it just by itself and also mixed it in with other products like
pumice, crush granite, coir, & diatomaeous rock(Dyna-rok).

Hope that helps out!
Pamela

In the C&SJ (USA) Vol. 81. No 5 there is a review of the Haworthia Supplement
which is causing some questions about Bayer's Update 5 recently published by
Alsterworthia International, which I would like to clear up.

I do not have a copy of the Haworthia Supplement, which was not published by
Alsterworthia International, and have no wish to comment on it, but to clear up
apparent misunderstandings may I stress that Alsterworthia International
published Bayer's Update No. 5. It has 199 A4 pages with 16 chapters and is
complete and unabridged with well over 600 photographs dealing with the
diversity of habitat plants over wide geographical areas. They are a unique
photographic herbarium ,which cannot be equalled elsewhere. They are an
essential part of Bayer's articles.

According to the C&SJ review the Haworthia Supplement has 42 pages. In addition
I am reliably informed that the subject matter is an abridged version of the
first few chapter of Update 5, abridged because it includes only some of the
photos.

To conclude, Update 5 is the complete work of Bayer's 16 Chapters and over 600
photos.

I would be happy to deal with any enquires confined to Update 5. I am not
interested in commenting on other publications or organisations.


Harry Mays
Editor, Alsterworthia International.
Coordinator, Cultivar Project
World Agent, Haworthia Study
Woodsleigh, Moss Lane
St Michaels on Wyre
Preston, PR3 0TY
UK
email. hmays@...

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