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Re: Schematic Capture/PCB Creation program of choice?

Although I have not yet attempted it, my expectation is that it will work the
same way bonding a 2 layer board out two singled PCBs works. Tape them together
at first, but once several via are soldered into place the board will be stuck
together well enough for many purposes.

With a 4 layer assembly the trick to access the inner layers is apparently to
drill the outer via holes larger than the inner holes so that it is possible to
solder the via connecting wire to both the inner and outer via copper plates.

That extra drill for the outer layers may be more of a pain than its worth with
through hole components. However, using SMD I'm hopeful the process will wind up
reducing my overall drill count and increase my component density.

Regards,
Royce


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Interesting... it has been impossible to get a consensus about which software package(s) are "industry standard". However, Manpower.com lists two on their...
Steve Greenfield
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That is hardly any standard. Manpower, around here at least, is only useful to provide warm bodies, not engineers. The staff is certainly not qualified to...
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Nov 2, 2009
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Well if you want software you really can't afford. We use Mentor Graphics for schematic and Zuken for layout here at work.Jim Hannon ...
James Hannon
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Nov 3, 2009
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KiCad, Free Open-Source (GPL), cross-platform (MAC too), schematic capture, project manager, part editors for schematics and footprints, library management,...
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Nov 3, 2009
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More power to you on the better tutorials. I been wanting to switch to KiCad to get free 4 layer design, but I expect it will be quite a learning curve. So...
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Nov 3, 2009
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Hi Royce,  while I'm new at all this and no expert.  Why can't you make four layer boards by the following?   Make a netlist with the traces that you want...
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Hi Cary, It's because I am an autorouter junkie. I only have so much hobby-time and I believe that using the autorouter saves me a good deal of time. So what...
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I don't think laziness or lack of time is a good reason to use an autorouter or 4 layer boards. You'll spend much more time troubleshooting and stuff if you...
Stefan Trethan
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"send ugly mess to production"... I don't send anything to production. Virtually every board I make is a one-off, is home etched and is part of a competition...
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You make 4 layer boards at home? When I make the boards myself I spend even more time on a good layout. After all I am the guy who doesn't have to spend time...
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I've made 4 layer boards at home. Not as much fun, but it gets the job done....
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How do you bond a 4 layer board together? ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Although I have not yet attempted it, my expectation is that it will work the same way bonding a 2 layer board out two singled PCBs works. Tape them together...
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I like the idea, but I see a lot of problems at the design stage, in making sure that there is a hole in the outer PCBs to allow soldering, in fact, I think...
Andrew Mathison
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... Double sided tape. I adhere the tape to the out layers, drill the "blind" vias (oversized), stick everything together, then drill the through-vias. The...
DJ Delorie
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Imagine an architect came up to your wall-building craftsman, observed his plumb lines and precise right angles and proceeded to tell the craftsman that there...
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The craftsman is merely advising the architect that the straight walls and right angles would make it much cheaper to build and easier for every following...
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... gEDA's PCB does that. We're working on our third autorouter, but the current core one (#2) is pretty good. Not sure what the best way to eval an...
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FWIW, I started using Kicad as a complete novice, and have not found the learning curve to be too hard. There are one or two things that work in non-obvious...
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