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#18361 From: "free2unfold" <free2unfold@...>
Date: Mon Feb 8, 2010 2:01 am
Subject: Re: Introduction
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Winnie, my name is Mary and I am new to this Ohana.  I wanted to clarify some of
the things that Barbara said.  When every you interact with another person, you
give some of your energy and you receive some of theirs.  These are called aka
cords.

The process of cutting aka cords is really sending energy that does not belong
to you back to where it is suppose to go.  You also need to call back all of the
energy that you have sent out to yourself.  This does wonders especially if you
have been giving out to others.  It makes you feel whole again.  This would help
your brother a lot, but I don't know if you can do it for him, or he has to do
it himself.

Anyway, as any healer worth his salt will tell you, you do not heal a person,
you are just a conduit for Divine energy.  It is God or Spirit or All That Is
that heals and the patient has to heal himself.

Does anyone out there help with this technique?


--- In Huna-Ohana@yahoogroups.com, Kizzita wrote:
>
> I am just trying to heal my brother who had a strke at age 47  3 months ago.
> If there is a way, I am willing and ready to find it to heal  him, If this
> is the way, I am going to learn all I can.
> Please help me.
> Winnie
>

#18360 From: Debora Ready <jrdljd@...>
Date: Mon Feb 8, 2010 5:09 pm
Subject: Had to share this..
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Maryland was hit with a major snow storm. We got 23 inches in less than a day. No biggie, we are prepared.
When we lost power, John started the generator. When power was restored, he turned the generator off, smelled gas, saw gas leaking on the porch. The gasket at the base of the gas tank blew apart as soon as he shut the machine down, great timing!
He started up the snow blower with no problem, did one swipe and the machine died. He could not get it started again. This is not a good thing. With one snow shovel, a driveway that can park 15 cars easy, a hill that requires 4 wheel drive to get up if it is not cleared, and a man with a back problem. We knew it would take at least 2 days to shovel it out.
He had come into the house to warm up before he started shoveling again. I looked at him and immediately sent a prayer for someone to please show up with a bobcat to clear the drive....a plow can't do it, we have very tall banks on each side of the drive.
He went outside to start again when a neighbor that we barely know, shouted over to him, don't worry about the drive, I will bring my bobcat over and do it!
Now, we had no idea this man had a bobcat, he is the landlord of the house next door so we really don't know him, and the only time we have met him has been in court when he or is brother need zoning changes. It has always been polite between us but nothing more.
To me, this is a Huna miracle. The man was only next door because a pipe was leaking in the house and he stopped by to fix it. If John had not walked outside when he did they would not have seen each other, the man owns a bobcat! We didn't know we knew anyone with a bobcat, lol. 
I love Huna.
Debbie
Oh, a new gasket will be here tomorrow for the generator...next snow storm? Tomorrow! 
http://www.huna-energy.com
 
 
 

#18359 From: "E.S." <ewald.gto@...>
Date: Mon Feb 8, 2010 6:16 am
Subject: Re: Introduction
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Also consider this!

If Light is all there IS, there's no opposite, or is there?

Can you see your own shadow while you're looking at the sun (Source)??

So it's only by choosing to turn around, or by denying the Light all together that you'll get its opposite!

Isn't the sun still shining? Well it must be, or you wouldn't even be able to see your own shadow to begin with!

Would you have a shadow without the Light? Nope, no shadow can exist in the absence of the light!!

So it's in the turning away, or in the denial of what IS that we create its opposite!

So, yes evil and bad do exist!!  

Since by its very own nature every thought must express itself, whether we use it to deny or admit something, it is created!

So the more we ask ourselves why evil exists the more life we grant IT!

That's why "anti war" creates more war!  Wouldn't it be a better choice to be "pro peace" instead?

The thought creates and holds the image, doesn't it?
 
How many of us watched a crime show like CSI, or the news wondering how something so bad can exist in our world and how many of us have had the same thought at the same time?
 
Millions do so every single second of the day, most of us incapable of hurting anyone, yet we still hold it in place by thinking about it.
 
Talking about collective consciousness in action! So how about all the others then who
live in poverty, hate and war most of their lives?
 
Looks like it's nearly impossible to change anything with so many people focusing simultaneously on the same thing, or is it?
 
Well here's the good news! :):)
 
Even though "bad and evil" do exist, they are vibrating at a very low level in comparison to love!
 
Let me explain:
 
First of all the numbers I am introducing are not completely accurate, but close enough to demonstrate my point. (the exact numbers and scientific evidence can be found in the book "power vs. force" if anyone is interested)
 
Most, if not all negative thoughts (guilt, anger, fear.....) on a scale from 1-1000 vibrate below 200.
Pure love being the highest vibrates at 1000.
Enlightened people like Buddha and Jesus vibrated at 1000. Ghandi, if I recall correctly somewhere between 600 -700.
 
The average rate of vibration of mankind at this point and time is around 220. Forgive me again if I am not accurate.
 
Check this out!!!!
 
A person vibrating at a level around 700 OFFSETS millions of people vibrating around 200.
 
So any questions why Ghandi was able to kick out the Brits without a single gunshot?
 
Isn't that proof in itself that instead of focusing on the bad, we should aim to vibrate at  a higher level and that we actually do by simply changing our thoughts? Doesn't that proof that we have a choice? Doesn't that proof that each of us has an impact?
 
So instead of focusing on WHY is the world bad, we should ask ourselves HOW can we make a difference? How can we be part of the solution instead of the problem?
 
Isn't it good to know that just a "few" of us can actually change the world for the better by focusing on peace and love?
 
And it has been done before just by having a group of people radiating and sending peace all around the world simultaneously.
 
Another such project I believe was done in Chicago and the crime rate dropped from what I've heard drastically.
 
Again, I am not here to present statistics, but to point out how powerful we are as a human race and that we do have much more control over our fate than we dare to admit.
 
Just like the sun shines for all of us whether we turn our backs against her, or not, so does the Light for it is "the Everything" and as such must be impartial, or it could not exist at all.
 
The sun has no control over how we you use its energy (we could generate solar energy to either power a food plant or an arms factory) and neither has the LIGHT control over how we're using its energy.
 
That decisions is entirely up to us and it's called CHOICE. Who we choose to be in relationship to what's happening inside and around us will dictate the outcome. Nobody else can make that decision for us.
 
Are we allowing the Light to flow and work through us, or are we blocking it out and by doing so create our own shadow that leads us to experience darkness?
 
See, it's not the Light, but HOW we choose to use it!
 
Have a great week,
 
Ewald
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 






 



----- Original Message -----
From: Lezli
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Huna-Ohana] Introduction

 

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Tiki Geek"
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 12:38 PM
To: <Huna-Ohana@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Huna-Ohana] Introduction

> Lezli wrote:
>
> ...
>> I got the spirit vs matter thing, but
>> I'm not ready to accept the good vs
>> evil thing. Intellectually I can wrap
>> my mind around it, but on some level
>> (I'm pretty sure it's my programming)
>> some part of me is screaming out ...
>> What about all the bad things that
>> happen to good people? What about war
>> and famine and on and on and on and ...
>> and OMG the chaos!
> ....
>
> I'm not sure it's the RIGHT way to think
> for everyone (it is for me, though) but
> I differentiate between "evil" and "bad".
> Hitler was evil. The Una-Bomber was evil.
> Corporate America is largely evil. But
> the earthquake in Haiti, Hurricane Kat-
> rina, Pompeii... all were BAD.
> To me, evil is an action upon another.
> Bad things are just "bad luck". You can
> have an influence over either happening
> to you, but evil is conscious. Bad is
> merely a chance happening (either from
> an underlying cause occurring at some
> point in time or place) which affects
> someone (such as an earthquake or a
> meteorite falling from outer space).
> Evil is when another being DECIDES to
> malevolently alter another's quality
> of life (physical violence, etc.).

Thank you so much for writing and distinguishing bad and evil. I can see
how in lacking that distinction one could begin to blame God for all the
stuff that happens over which no one has control. I'll definitely consider
what you wrote.
Be well, Lezli


#18358 From: Mary Hinck
Date: Tue Feb 9, 2010 2:43 am
Subject: Introduction
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* Your Name:  Mary

* Location:  Big Island of Hawaii

* How did you first hear of Huna?  Grew up hearing about it.  Also read Hank Wesselman's Spiritwalker and Seirge King's Mastering Your Hidden Self.

* How did you find this group?  My daughter introduced me to it

* How do you plan to use Huna in your daily routine?  Yes

* What would you like to learn from the group?  How to incorporate Huna principles and practices into my daily life

* What is important to you about Huna?  It makes sense and resonates with me.  I had come to some realizations about my nature and my three selves before I started to read anything about Huna.  When I finally read about Huna, it explained a lot and made things clearer.  I want to learn more. 



#18357 From: "free2unfold" <free2unfold@...>
Date: Mon Feb 8, 2010 2:37 am
Subject: New Member
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Hello, my name is Mary and I am new to this Ohana.  I live on the Big Island of
Hawaii.  My knowledge of Huna is rudimentary at best and I am looking forward to
learning more.  After reading through some of the posts here, I am glad to find
many interesting thoughts to explore and people who are helping each other and
exploring too.

At this point, Huna has helped me to understand my human nature better and how
my three selves fit together.  I am still learning how they work together.  I
don't know anything about how to use Huna to improve my self or my life, much
less any one else's life.

The Universe keeps sending me lessons that I need to learn.  I am in what is
called a "growth period."  What I'm learning is that I have no control of my or
any one else's life.  What I do have control over is my choices.

I choose to be happy and trust that everything works out perfectly.  EWOP!

#18356 From: "Dave" <dave-emery@...>
Date: Tue Feb 9, 2010 10:21 am
Subject: Couple of questions
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Hi - just joined - got to here (gratefully) via Joe Vitale's book (with Dr. Len)
and found I had questions they seemed unable to answer -

1. Blue Solar Water (done what their book recommended and have 3 or 4 blue
bottles sitting in the sun) - they never explained how that worked - do 'real'
Huna practitioners of Ho'oponopono use such bottles for washing and drinking?

2. The 'love you, sorry, forgive me, thank you' mantra - been repeating that
endlessly but have now discovered it may be too (dangerously so) simplistic -
simple answer for me - did Morrnah say we should do it? If so then I will
continue - if not I will stop.

3. Yes, hope this isn't too many!!Morrnah's prayer - I'm confused (not
difficult!)- can I say it in reference only to me rather than family, ancestors
etc? Similarly for Morrnah's statment of release etc - can they be stated in
reference exclusively to 'I' rather than many or any others?

#18355 From: "wpf93" <wpf93@...>
Date: Mon Feb 8, 2010 10:37 am
Subject: TMHG request
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Hello,

I have a request for the TMHG, but it's kind of personal, so I don't want to
post it out in the open.  Is there a place where I can send it privately?

#18354 From: "Lezli" <dreeve2002@...>
Date: Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:19 pm
Subject: Re: Introduction
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From: "Tiki Geek"
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 12:38 PM
To: <Huna-Ohana@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Huna-Ohana] Introduction

> Lezli wrote:
>
> ...
>> I got the spirit vs matter thing, but
>> I'm not ready to accept the good vs
>> evil thing.  Intellectually I can wrap
>> my mind around it, but on some level
>> (I'm pretty sure it's my programming)
>> some part of me is screaming out ...
>> What about all the bad things that
>> happen to good people?  What about war
>> and famine and on and on and on and ...
>> and OMG the chaos!
> ....
>
> I'm not sure it's the RIGHT way to think
> for everyone (it is for me, though) but
> I differentiate between "evil" and "bad".
> Hitler was evil. The Una-Bomber was evil.
> Corporate America is largely evil. But
> the earthquake in Haiti, Hurricane Kat-
> rina, Pompeii... all were BAD.
> To me, evil is an action upon another.
> Bad things are just "bad luck". You can
> have an influence over either happening
> to you, but evil is conscious. Bad is
> merely a chance happening (either from
> an underlying cause occurring at some
> point in time or place) which affects
> someone (such as an earthquake or a
> meteorite falling from outer space).
> Evil is when another being DECIDES to
> malevolently alter another's quality
> of life (physical violence, etc.).


Thank you so much for writing and distinguishing bad and evil.  I can see
how in lacking that distinction one could begin to blame God for all the
stuff that happens over which no one has control.  I'll  definitely consider
what you wrote.
Be well, Lezli

#18353 From: Tiki Geek <tikigik@...>
Date: Sat Feb 6, 2010 7:38 pm
Subject: Re: Introduction
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Lezli wrote:

...
> I got the spirit vs matter thing, but
> I'm not ready to accept the good vs
> evil thing.  Intellectually I can wrap
> my mind around it, but on some level
> (I'm pretty sure it's my programming)
> some part of me is screaming out ...
> What about all the bad things that
> happen to good people?  What about war
> and famine and on and on and on and ...
> and OMG the chaos!
....

I'm not sure it's the RIGHT way to think
for everyone (it is for me, though) but
I differentiate between "evil" and "bad".
Hitler was evil. The Una-Bomber was evil.
Corporate America is largely evil. But
the earthquake in Haiti, Hurricane Kat-
rina, Pompeii... all were BAD.
To me, evil is an action upon another.
Bad things are just "bad luck". You can
have an influence over either happening
to you, but evil is conscious. Bad is
merely a chance happening (either from
an underlying cause occurring at some
point in time or place) which affects
someone (such as an earthquake or a
meteorite falling from outer space).
Evil is when another being DECIDES to
malevolently alter another's quality
of life (physical violence, etc.).

#18352 From: "Lezli" <dreeve2002@...>
Date: Sat Feb 6, 2010 8:12 am
Subject: Re: Introduction
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Dear Ewald,
 
I found Judge Troward's book on google books - so I'll take a look at it as well soon, when I get my stack whittled down some.
 
Me too!  I like a good discussion and I appreciate all the thoughts and ideas you've brought to my attention during this one.  I thank you for taking the time to write.
 
I haven't yet put out the intention for March.  I'm still at the 'why ask, it probably won't happen stage'.  It would be fabulous to be there though.  I want to go.  There's so much to learn.
 
(As close as I live to Vegas, I've never been there.  Isn't that a hoot?)
 
In gratitude, Lezli
 

From: Ewald
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Huna-Ohana] Introduction

Hey Lezli,

Wow!  Your statement of the glass being full too.... Now you've got my attention!

Our discussion got me really thinking yesterday and opened my mind even further. 

As a result I started reading Judge Troward's book and it took me to an even higher level of insight and inspiration!!

Amazingly it has so many similarities to what I've learned and understand about Huna so far!


Some of the stuff you talk about in your latest post are explained in a very unique and interesting way!

You'll love it and it also will help you with your Huna studies!

I don't consider myself an expert or the person who knows the answers! I just like a good discussion because it helps me to broaden my own life, perspective and understanding!

I had my first vision about the Light when I was a young child and since then a lot that was handed down to me didn't make any sense and that lead me to the path I am on for the past 25 years now!

I had another vision about 9 years ago and strangely enough the strongest experience with the Light I actually had in Las Vegas at the "Huna psychic crap seminar" thanks to Vince and Dr. Yates!

Kinda interesting that it happened in Vegas, isn't it??? :):)

Well, Vince and Yates can work miracles anywhere, what can I say!!

Since then I was ONE with the "Everything" twice and as a result my whole life has changed!

Your next chance is in Cape Girardeau in March!

Ewald

 

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On Feb 5, 2010, at 9:12 AM, "Lezli" wrote:

 

Dear Ewald,
 
Goodness gracious!  I got the spirit vs matter thing, but I'm not ready to accept the good vs evil thing.  Intellectually I can wrap my mind around it, but on some level (I'm pretty sure it's my programming) some part of me is screaming out . . . What about all the bad things that happen to good people?  What about war and famine and on and on and on and . . . and OMG the chaos!
 
So, I can begin to understand how these things get constructed.  It's a way to explain the dichotomy we experience in this world.
 
I get that the glass is half full, half empty, and both at the same time.  I don't get that the glass is full too.  Perhaps I'm still stuck in thinking in physical terms.
 
Ok, when you speak about the forbidden fruit, you've brought up a subject I'm absolutely passionate about because the way that story is taught in the church and synagogue and mosque absolving man of his responsibility to his partner for his lack of teaching her the whole truth and for standing by as she was seduced in the garden by half truths and then placing blame on her for the choices he made.  Up to that point, they lived in oneness with God. Afterwards came separation and all its consequences.  Was it good?  Was it bad?  I dunno, but I do know that we have what we have and we have to work within the confines of the rules as they are now. 
 
Some people say that this is where fear comes in, the fear of betrayal, the fear of making a wrong turn, not knowing enough, fear of intimacy, greed, abandonment, quest for power and domination.  Some people say that it is deeply encoded in our psyche/genes.  Some people say the only way to get past these fears and limitations is to move through them and experience them in all their muckiness. 
 
Are you saying that all one has to do is to change their belief system and they can live magical lives?  Some people would say that you can believe what you want, but you're not living in reality.
 
Perhaps it is also a consequence to have selfishness because so many professions have to have tenets that include doing no harm.  We have to have discussions on ethics and politically there are now discussions on the split between ethics in business and politics and ethics in the home and community. 
 
So, you're right.  It is more complicated.  And the only way I know how to deal with that complexity is to ignore it and go on my way.  In a way, I do want to live in lala land. 
 
However, putting that aside, if one changes their beliefs, what happens to the old ones?  It has been my experience that when people aren't consciously aware of accepting new beliefs, they are often rejecting old beliefs unconsciously and thereby fracturing who they are.  How do you know what it is that you are doing?  I see this in myself, for instance, when I'm in church and I hear the typical sermon about Eve and the apple or I hear one about marriage.  I know that a good deal of what I feel has to do with experience, but also the church (or whatever institution) has an agenda they are pushing.  How do you know what is their agenda and therefore worth throwing out and what is the truth?
 
And it's not that I'm attached to FEAR, but that I don't know of any other way of being, so if I let go of it, that is the scariest place to be.  It's like jumping off a cliff and hoping to fly.  See Lilias Trotter.  I'd say if she can do it, I can except that she always knew she could and I didn't.  I guess that's what made her a mystic.
 
About the quark - I don't know of a Russian store in my area.  I'll just have to search it out and see what I can find.  Maybe Trader Joe's or a health food store can help.
 
Thank you so much for this discussion. 
Have a blessed day, ~L
 
 

From: Ewald
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Huna-Ohana] Introduction

Aloha Lezli,

Interesting concept "the devil", isn't it??

To me it's simply an opposite, rather than an entity, although it will become one the minute you define it!

Once the Absolute created a forum of opposites (space and time) it has now a way to experience itself!

So instead of it only having a concept of how things are it can now actually HAVE an experience!

But in order for that to happen it now has to choose between good and bad,  
left and right and so forth!

Actually it also can be both at the same time too, which is another option we need to consider!

Is the glass half full, half empty, or both at the same time?

Aren't all 3 options correct at the same time?

If we insist it's half full (good) it will be, if we say it's half empty (bad) it will be but isn't it full (good and bad) at the same time?

Insisting that one does not exist, or that half full is bad completely ignores that fact that everything simply exists!

So was picking the forbidden fruit our first sin, first blessing, or both?

Or is it simply a story that talks about  the first choice that separated us from the everything so we could have our first experience?

Matter simply is the medium that allows spirit to experience itself!

The rest is up to us! We label based on our beliefs, past experiences and conditioning! 

It's probably a little more complicated and complex than that, but to me life has changed after realizing that I don't have to choose between god and the devil, good and bad!

I have a choice who I want to be and BEcome in relationship to what is labeled good and bad instead of choosing between the two!

To deny one is to deny both and that's what most of us struggle with.

You can not experience oneness if you fear part if it! 

FEAR NOT!

Anyway, quark ( similar to cottage cheese) is also known as baker's cheese! Some Russian stores in the LA area actually carry an identical product to quark. I forgot the name though. If you've a Russian store nearby I'll find it out for you!

Cheers,

Ewald


 






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On Feb 4, 2010, at 8:30 AM, "Lezli" wrote:

 

Good Morning Ewald. 
 
Thanks so much for this email.  It brought back to me how it was that I thought back when before now. 
 
Ah!  The Possibilities!
 
I was searching inside myself, the container, and forgetting that I was a part of a whole rather than an entity unto myself.  As the saying goes, no man is an island.  No wonder I've been disconnected. 
 
Ok.  Breathing helps.  A lot.  And breathing helps me to see again. 
 
I've always seen this statement used as an explanation for the existence of evil. 
>In order for spirit to experience itself it has to create an environment that allows it to have an experience, so it has to create it's opposite, which is matter.
 
I truly appreciate your explanation of matter and spirit.  I've been reading John 17 and 3x Jesus asks that the disciples become one just as He is one.  <<< YES!
 
I am beginning to see how I've been 'trying' and that has been keeping me from achieving my dreams or even seeing my dreams.  Up till now I've been believing that I lacked something, but that which I lacked was always there, I had just given in to conventional thinking.  Staying within the lines has never been my forte and so, having chosen to box myself in for so long, no wonder I'm scared to step outside.  Ah, a new perspective from which to work.  Thank you.
 
Yes, it the finding of THAT message that seems so important now.  We all have some kind of story to tell, don't we?  It is finding that story that makes our lives so meaningful.
 
Grillflame!  lol - that forum that either drives me nuts or inspires me.  lol.  I'm so glad you found the post.  And for me. . . that post mentions quark, which is a 'super-food' (Genotype diet) for me and I never knew what it was.  So now I know.  lol.
 
There's a lot in your message and I keep rereading it and getting more and more out of it.  Thank you for taking the time to write it.
 
Blessings, Lezli
 
From: E.S.
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Huna-Ohana] Introduction

Hello Lezli,
 
Yeah..pretty bizarre story, but that's how the Universe works. It works THROUGH us.
 
We simply forget this very important fact and we look for the answer within us. However if we're blocked, or don't believe we can do it, we can't!
 
We are the medium through which the Universal Intelligence expresses itself. The harder we try the more self-absorbed we become and that's how we block and shut off our access to it.
 
We do it most of the time and then we get confused and search for the answers frantically based on what we "know" and that's how we get blocked. Your post reminded me again of how the answers "come" to us.
 
Sunday I absolutely intended to help two wonderful people, but I was too tired and exhausted to search and went to bed. I completely forgot about it and the very next day because of my intentions I was lead to a possible answer by simply following my impulses and intuition instead of looking several hours for it.
 
I've done things like that many times, but I've failed just as many.
 
How so, you might ask?! Well, It's actually very simple to explain.
 
We get confused by statements like "it's all within you",and even though it's true we're more than just the container our human body represents.
 
So we search only that container for the answer forgetting the fact that our container is connected with the entire Universe and that everything exists already either inside of us, and if not, somewhere else for sure.
 
Nothing outside of us can exist unless it exists also inside of us, that is true. The only thing that prevents us from seeing it are our beliefs. So the only thing inside of us are our beliefs, everything else exists everywhere and nowhere at the same time. I prefer to call it the infinite intelligence, but you can give it any name you want! It's always the same no matter what's the definition.
 
In order for spirit to experience itself it has to create an environment that allows it to have an experience, so it has to create it's opposite, which is matter.
 
So even though we say it's all an illusion, it really isn't. Matter is the medium that allows
spirit to become alive.
 
The minute Spirit becomes alive through Matter it is separating itself from the "undefined"! That's how it becomes less than the Whole, even though it exists simultaneously with the Whole. It can not be any other way because that's were it came from to begin with. (Do I make sense)
 
Like Lao Tsu said in one of his verses about "the Everything": "The minute you define it.... you've lost it"!
 
Now that Spirit has become alive through Matter it operates in opposites rather than in the Absolute giving ALL OF US the possibility to experience life and in turn the Absolute can experience itself through us.
 
This is how the infinite intelligence and everything else, including us, are ALL connected.
 
Isn't that exactly what all the great Masters have taught us? However, it's hard to comprehend and understand (impossible) the Absolute in a world ruled by opposites.  
 
I honestly believe there's a reason for that. Actually about 9 years ago I had a very clear vision about it with all the bells an whistles like bright white light and a voice telling me that there's a reason why nobody on this planet ever knew or will know the  entire "Truth"!
Some came very close, but that's as far as we can go as long as we live here.
 
Somehow we all "know" that there's more to us then what we can "see" but since we can't comprehend it we're having DOUBTS and FEARS and that keeps us from having what we really want.
 
So it was not really hard to spot your doubts and fears. :)  Don't forget we all have them and they actually serve a purpose.They show us where the Light is.
 
Doubt, fear, pain and all the other negative emotions are not there to drag us down but to show us what we've to work on.
 
IF YOU DOUBT YOU CAN GIVE YOUR FAMILY ALL THE WONDERFUL THINGS YOU'VE MENTIONED, THEN YOU CAN, BECAUSE YOU CAN ONLY SEE WHAT'S ALREADY INSIDE OF YOU.
 
It's your secret PASSION, isn't it?
 
You want the world to know about home schooling, about remote viewing, about how to have a happy family and all the other goodies we all want for ourselves.
 
Share it with the world, show others how to have what you want, take your eyes off your problems and the Universe will respond in kind.
 
If you understand that you're larger than life and that your cause is more important than your own problems...... your actions will create the very outcome you seek.
 
You have a gift (we all do) and it's about time that you FOCUS on sharing it and that focus will etch it into your own consciousness.
 
Don't release any of your thoughts and memories or whatever else SEEMS to hold you back and turn it into a MESSAGE. The only thing you can ever do is to separate your emotional pain from your experience, or to reframe it anyay. That's what they mean by releasing, unfortunately many confuse that with removing it from your memory and that hardly ever works.
 
Find the PAIN in the world that your MESSAGE will ease or even resolve and in return you'll get whatever your heart desires!
 
 
Oops, I almost forgot! Here's the link:
 
 
 
Ewald
 
 

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#18351 From: "Lezli" <dreeve2002@...>
Date: Sat Feb 6, 2010 8:14 am
Subject: Re: huna dvd's
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Thanks, Carol.  I'm waiting for delivery now. 
 
>>>>so excited!
 
~L

Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Huna-Ohana] huna dvd's

You've only just begun.........I wish you love and light on your journey...
Take the time to do the guided meditations of the DVD's they are valuable
Go back over them as well... as questions arise for you send them out to the group... this way we can all participate in the learning.  Most of all have fun and keep asking yourself,  how else can I use this????
C
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:49 AM, Lezli wrote:
 

Thank you Everyone for all your import on my question.  I have decided to acquire the Kahuna Secrets dvd's for now.  I will see what comes next then.
 
Thank you, Carol, for mentioning the convention.  It is always good to learn first hand and, well, we'll just have to see how that goes, but that really sounds like so much fun.  Besides, I looked and saw some pictures of you all. 
 
And, for some reason, it did not click for me that the Kahuna Wisdom were cd's.  I dunno what I was thinking. 
 
For now, its baby steps and creating the possibilities that allow for an abundant future and more learning.
 
Blessings, ~L
 



#18350 From: Ewald <ewald.gto@...>
Date: Sat Feb 6, 2010 5:01 am
Subject: Re: Breath!
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Sounds great to me! :)

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On Feb 5, 2010, at 4:39 PM, mustafa oktem > wrote:

 

Hi Ewald, how about ; Eve for inhale, Adam for exhale; Eve to receive Adam to give ?
Mustafa Zeynel


From: Ewald <ewald.gto@gmail.com>
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Sent: Fri, February 5, 2010 9:34:23 PM
Subject: [Huna-Ohana] Breath!

 

Hey Vince,

I started reading a great book last night and it says one of the definition of

Eve translates "breath"
Adam translates "no breath"

It also talks about the fire before the fire that created everything and the water!

Talks about Noah's ark actually being the trinity of man!

I now understand why the missionaries were impressed with the Hawaiian's knowledge of the old testament!

Lots of other incredible stuff!

It was written in 1913 and is called

"Bible mystery and bible meaning explained"  by Judge Troward.

Have you heard of it!?

Interestingly enough it all started with Lezli's post!

Somehow I got "sucked" into her post and had this urge to talk about a few things I usually keep to myself!

I know now that it happened for a reason. The reason being that I was looking for more understanding and now I found an incredible source that gives me yet another perspective!

The more I look the more I find out that Huna is an incredible tool!!!

What I like most about it is that it doesn't restrict you in any way and encourages you to test it for youself!

Ewald

  
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#18349 From: mustafa oktem <mustoktem@...>
Date: Sat Feb 6, 2010 12:39 am
Subject: Re: Breath!
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Hi Ewald, how about ; Eve for inhale, Adam for exhale; Eve to receive Adam to give ?
Mustafa Zeynel


From: Ewald <ewald.gto@...>
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Sent: Fri, February 5, 2010 9:34:23 PM
Subject: [Huna-Ohana] Breath!

 

Hey Vince,

I started reading a great book last night and it says one of the definition of

Eve translates "breath"
Adam translates "no breath"

It also talks about the fire before the fire that created everything and the water!

Talks about Noah's ark actually being the trinity of man!

I now understand why the missionaries were impressed with the Hawaiian's knowledge of the old testament!

Lots of other incredible stuff!

It was written in 1913 and is called

"Bible mystery and bible meaning explained"  by Judge Troward.

Have you heard of it!?

Interestingly enough it all started with Lezli's post!

Somehow I got "sucked" into her post and had this urge to talk about a few things I usually keep to myself!

I know now that it happened for a reason. The reason being that I was looking for more understanding and now I found an incredible source that gives me yet another perspective!

The more I look the more I find out that Huna is an incredible tool!!!

What I like most about it is that it doesn't restrict you in any way and encourages you to test it for youself!

Ewald

  
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#18348 From: "willy_hartford" <willy.hartford@...>
Date: Fri Feb 5, 2010 9:43 pm
Subject: Purification Treatment
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Aloha Vince,
In the process of embarking in the cleansing of my humble abode, interior as
well as the mundane one. ie. using the vinegar an epson salt method. My question
is, is there a more beneficial lunar phase to do the ritual.
Till then,
Willy

#18347 From: Ewald <ewald.gto@...>
Date: Fri Feb 5, 2010 8:19 pm
Subject: Re: Introduction
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Hey Lezli,

Wow!  Your statement of the glass being full too.... Now you've got my attention!

Our discussion got me really thinking yesterday and opened my mind even further. 

As a result I started reading Judge Troward's book and it took me to an even higher level of insight and inspiration!!

Amazingly it has so many similarities to what I've learned and understand about Huna so far!


Some of the stuff you talk about in your latest post are explained in a very unique and interesting way!

You'll love it and it also will help you with your Huna studies!

I don't consider myself an expert or the person who knows the answers! I just like a good discussion because it helps me to broaden my own life, perspective and understanding!

I had my first vision about the Light when I was a young child and since then a lot that was handed down to me didn't make any sense and that lead me to the path I am on for the past 25 years now!

I had another vision about 9 years ago and strangely enough the strongest experience with the Light I actually had in Las Vegas at the "Huna psychic crap seminar" thanks to Vince and Dr. Yates!

Kinda interesting that it happened in Vegas, isn't it??? :):)

Well, Vince and Yates can work miracles anywhere, what can I say!!

Since then I was ONE with the "Everything" twice and as a result my whole life has changed!

Your next chance is in Cape Girardeau in March!

Ewald

 

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On Feb 5, 2010, at 9:12 AM, "Lezli" wrote:

 

Dear Ewald,
 
Goodness gracious!  I got the spirit vs matter thing, but I'm not ready to accept the good vs evil thing.  Intellectually I can wrap my mind around it, but on some level (I'm pretty sure it's my programming) some part of me is screaming out . . . What about all the bad things that happen to good people?  What about war and famine and on and on and on and . . . and OMG the chaos!
 
So, I can begin to understand how these things get constructed.  It's a way to explain the dichotomy we experience in this world.
 
I get that the glass is half full, half empty, and both at the same time.  I don't get that the glass is full too.  Perhaps I'm still stuck in thinking in physical terms.
 
Ok, when you speak about the forbidden fruit, you've brought up a subject I'm absolutely passionate about because the way that story is taught in the church and synagogue and mosque absolving man of his responsibility to his partner for his lack of teaching her the whole truth and for standing by as she was seduced in the garden by half truths and then placing blame on her for the choices he made.  Up to that point, they lived in oneness with God. Afterwards came separation and all its consequences.  Was it good?  Was it bad?  I dunno, but I do know that we have what we have and we have to work within the confines of the rules as they are now. 
 
Some people say that this is where fear comes in, the fear of betrayal, the fear of making a wrong turn, not knowing enough, fear of intimacy, greed, abandonment, quest for power and domination.  Some people say that it is deeply encoded in our psyche/genes.  Some people say the only way to get past these fears and limitations is to move through them and experience them in all their muckiness. 
 
Are you saying that all one has to do is to change their belief system and they can live magical lives?  Some people would say that you can believe what you want, but you're not living in reality.
 
Perhaps it is also a consequence to have selfishness because so many professions have to have tenets that include doing no harm.  We have to have discussions on ethics and politically there are now discussions on the split between ethics in business and politics and ethics in the home and community. 
 
So, you're right.  It is more complicated.  And the only way I know how to deal with that complexity is to ignore it and go on my way.  In a way, I do want to live in lala land. 
 
However, putting that aside, if one changes their beliefs, what happens to the old ones?  It has been my experience that when people aren't consciously aware of accepting new beliefs, they are often rejecting old beliefs unconsciously and thereby fracturing who they are.  How do you know what it is that you are doing?  I see this in myself, for instance, when I'm in church and I hear the typical sermon about Eve and the apple or I hear one about marriage.  I know that a good deal of what I feel has to do with experience, but also the church (or whatever institution) has an agenda they are pushing.  How do you know what is their agenda and therefore worth throwing out and what is the truth?
 
And it's not that I'm attached to FEAR, but that I don't know of any other way of being, so if I let go of it, that is the scariest place to be.  It's like jumping off a cliff and hoping to fly.  See Lilias Trotter.  I'd say if she can do it, I can except that she always knew she could and I didn't.  I guess that's what made her a mystic.
 
About the quark - I don't know of a Russian store in my area.  I'll just have to search it out and see what I can find.  Maybe Trader Joe's or a health food store can help.
 
Thank you so much for this discussion. 
Have a blessed day, ~L
 
 

From: Ewald
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Huna-Ohana] Introduction

Aloha Lezli,

Interesting concept "the devil", isn't it??

To me it's simply an opposite, rather than an entity, although it will become one the minute you define it!

Once the Absolute created a forum of opposites (space and time) it has now a way to experience itself!

So instead of it only having a concept of how things are it can now actually HAVE an experience!

But in order for that to happen it now has to choose between good and bad,  
left and right and so forth!

Actually it also can be both at the same time too, which is another option we need to consider!

Is the glass half full, half empty, or both at the same time?

Aren't all 3 options correct at the same time?

If we insist it's half full (good) it will be, if we say it's half empty (bad) it will be but isn't it full (good and bad) at the same time?

Insisting that one does not exist, or that half full is bad completely ignores that fact that everything simply exists!

So was picking the forbidden fruit our first sin, first blessing, or both?

Or is it simply a story that talks about  the first choice that separated us from the everything so we could have our first experience?

Matter simply is the medium that allows spirit to experience itself!

The rest is up to us! We label based on our beliefs, past experiences and conditioning! 

It's probably a little more complicated and complex than that, but to me life has changed after realizing that I don't have to choose between god and the devil, good and bad!

I have a choice who I want to be and BEcome in relationship to what is labeled good and bad instead of choosing between the two!

To deny one is to deny both and that's what most of us struggle with.

You can not experience oneness if you fear part if it! 

FEAR NOT!

Anyway, quark ( similar to cottage cheese) is also known as baker's cheese! Some Russian stores in the LA area actually carry an identical product to quark. I forgot the name though. If you've a Russian store nearby I'll find it out for you!

Cheers,

Ewald


 






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On Feb 4, 2010, at 8:30 AM, "Lezli" wrote:

 

Good Morning Ewald. 
 
Thanks so much for this email.  It brought back to me how it was that I thought back when before now. 
 
Ah!  The Possibilities!
 
I was searching inside myself, the container, and forgetting that I was a part of a whole rather than an entity unto myself.  As the saying goes, no man is an island.  No wonder I've been disconnected. 
 
Ok.  Breathing helps.  A lot.  And breathing helps me to see again. 
 
I've always seen this statement used as an explanation for the existence of evil. 
>In order for spirit to experience itself it has to create an environment that allows it to have an experience, so it has to create it's opposite, which is matter.
 
I truly appreciate your explanation of matter and spirit.  I've been reading John 17 and 3x Jesus asks that the disciples become one just as He is one.  <<< YES!
 
I am beginning to see how I've been 'trying' and that has been keeping me from achieving my dreams or even seeing my dreams.  Up till now I've been believing that I lacked something, but that which I lacked was always there, I had just given in to conventional thinking.  Staying within the lines has never been my forte and so, having chosen to box myself in for so long, no wonder I'm scared to step outside.  Ah, a new perspective from which to work.  Thank you.
 
Yes, it the finding of THAT message that seems so important now.  We all have some kind of story to tell, don't we?  It is finding that story that makes our lives so meaningful.
 
Grillflame!  lol - that forum that either drives me nuts or inspires me.  lol.  I'm so glad you found the post.  And for me. . . that post mentions quark, which is a 'super-food' (Genotype diet) for me and I never knew what it was.  So now I know.  lol.
 
There's a lot in your message and I keep rereading it and getting more and more out of it.  Thank you for taking the time to write it.
 
Blessings, Lezli
 
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Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Huna-Ohana] Introduction

Hello Lezli,
 
Yeah..pretty bizarre story, but that's how the Universe works. It works THROUGH us.
 
We simply forget this very important fact and we look for the answer within us. However if we're blocked, or don't believe we can do it, we can't!
 
We are the medium through which the Universal Intelligence expresses itself. The harder we try the more self-absorbed we become and that's how we block and shut off our access to it.
 
We do it most of the time and then we get confused and search for the answers frantically based on what we "know" and that's how we get blocked. Your post reminded me again of how the answers "come" to us.
 
Sunday I absolutely intended to help two wonderful people, but I was too tired and exhausted to search and went to bed. I completely forgot about it and the very next day because of my intentions I was lead to a possible answer by simply following my impulses and intuition instead of looking several hours for it.
 
I've done things like that many times, but I've failed just as many.
 
How so, you might ask?! Well, It's actually very simple to explain.
 
We get confused by statements like "it's all within you",and even though it's true we're more than just the container our human body represents.
 
So we search only that container for the answer forgetting the fact that our container is connected with the entire Universe and that everything exists already either inside of us, and if not, somewhere else for sure.
 
Nothing outside of us can exist unless it exists also inside of us, that is true. The only thing that prevents us from seeing it are our beliefs. So the only thing inside of us are our beliefs, everything else exists everywhere and nowhere at the same time. I prefer to call it the infinite intelligence, but you can give it any name you want! It's always the same no matter what's the definition.
 
In order for spirit to experience itself it has to create an environment that allows it to have an experience, so it has to create it's opposite, which is matter.
 
So even though we say it's all an illusion, it really isn't. Matter is the medium that allows
spirit to become alive.
 
The minute Spirit becomes alive through Matter it is separating itself from the "undefined"! That's how it becomes less than the Whole, even though it exists simultaneously with the Whole. It can not be any other way because that's were it came from to begin with. (Do I make sense)
 
Like Lao Tsu said in one of his verses about "the Everything": "The minute you define it.... you've lost it"!
 
Now that Spirit has become alive through Matter it operates in opposites rather than in the Absolute giving ALL OF US the possibility to experience life and in turn the Absolute can experience itself through us.
 
This is how the infinite intelligence and everything else, including us, are ALL connected.
 
Isn't that exactly what all the great Masters have taught us? However, it's hard to comprehend and understand (impossible) the Absolute in a world ruled by opposites.  
 
I honestly believe there's a reason for that. Actually about 9 years ago I had a very clear vision about it with all the bells an whistles like bright white light and a voice telling me that there's a reason why nobody on this planet ever knew or will know the  entire "Truth"!
Some came very close, but that's as far as we can go as long as we live here.
 
Somehow we all "know" that there's more to us then what we can "see" but since we can't comprehend it we're having DOUBTS and FEARS and that keeps us from having what we really want.
 
So it was not really hard to spot your doubts and fears. :)  Don't forget we all have them and they actually serve a purpose.They show us where the Light is.
 
Doubt, fear, pain and all the other negative emotions are not there to drag us down but to show us what we've to work on.
 
IF YOU DOUBT YOU CAN GIVE YOUR FAMILY ALL THE WONDERFUL THINGS YOU'VE MENTIONED, THEN YOU CAN, BECAUSE YOU CAN ONLY SEE WHAT'S ALREADY INSIDE OF YOU.
 
It's your secret PASSION, isn't it?
 
You want the world to know about home schooling, about remote viewing, about how to have a happy family and all the other goodies we all want for ourselves.
 
Share it with the world, show others how to have what you want, take your eyes off your problems and the Universe will respond in kind.
 
If you understand that you're larger than life and that your cause is more important than your own problems...... your actions will create the very outcome you seek.
 
You have a gift (we all do) and it's about time that you FOCUS on sharing it and that focus will etch it into your own consciousness.
 
Don't release any of your thoughts and memories or whatever else SEEMS to hold you back and turn it into a MESSAGE. The only thing you can ever do is to separate your emotional pain from your experience, or to reframe it anyay. That's what they mean by releasing, unfortunately many confuse that with removing it from your memory and that hardly ever works.
 
Find the PAIN in the world that your MESSAGE will ease or even resolve and in return you'll get whatever your heart desires!
 
 
Oops, I almost forgot! Here's the link:
 
 
 
Ewald
 
 

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#18346 From: "susannelh" <susannelh@...>
Date: Fri Feb 5, 2010 8:04 pm
Subject: Bunch of questions / Susanne in LA
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ALOHA VINCE!

As discussed - a bunch of questions for you!

1) In one of the LA Huna Group meetings Ewald mentioned that Glover was going to
be coming out with an updated version of his book which was going to include an
update on the levels of the Uhane and Unihipili – meaning that Uni is actually
the Middle Self and Uhane is actually the Basic Self...

I am assuming this is just a change with regard to positioning and that the
Unhipili is still the Subconscious Self and Uhane is still the Conscious.  Is
this correct?

Robin and I have not been using the terms Middle and Lower anyway because we've
felt more comfortable using Subconscious and Conscious.

If  this change is true - then does that mean that the energy gathered by
Unihipili (Subconscious) is still Mana - or is it now the Conscious (Uhane)
gathering the Mana and Uni is tranforming it to Mana-mana?

AND in relation to that -

The energy bodies around the physical body - is the Uni's still the
first/closest energy field and then Uhane and then Aumakua or does Uni and Uhane
change place?

1A) When I have been doing my ha-rite - I actually see my Unihipili sitting
opposite me (my Uhane/Conscious self) - like we are a team and we gather this
surcharge of Mana together which ends up in this big funnel around us - which is
then connected to Aumakua.  Is this an image that works or do I need to adjust
my image?

2) With regard to instant healing – per what you were talking about on your
Kahuna Secrets DVDs - Robin and I were discussing the fact that bending time is
a facet in the "instant" part of the healing – correct?

So in doing the healing, we are also asking Aumakua to bend the time - correct?

But, space and time are all part of the Earth Plane illusion anyway – and space,
time and thought are not seperate - corrct?

3) In SSBM page 321 in my book – Chap. XX – High Self in the Healing in Psychic
Science – MFL states: " In instant healing, the physical substance of the broken
bone……is, according to Huna, dissolved into ectoplasmic form, then solidified as
healthy substances filling the part of the patient's shadowy body (Unihipili's
area) which corresponds to the injured part…"

So – just making sure I understand this – the injured physical part is dissolved
into this energy and then poured into the "mold" so to speak of the perfect
shadow body blueprint, which the Unihipili oversees, and then reforms into
physical form as perfect again - thereby completely healed - correct?

I guess this is like seeing oneself as energy particles and then moving them
around to fit the blueprint.

4) In the Theta Healing modality - they go directly to "Creator of All that is"
to do the healings and at a Theta brainwave level.  Since studying Huna - I have
recognized alot of Huna in this modality - recognizing Huna all over the place
in general - LOL!  The Theta technique, in my experience, misses out the
intergral aspects of Huna though - specifically the 3 selves - especially Uni's
role.

Question though - what is better and why re: the Alpha state and the Theta state
for healing?  Does it matter?

And - I'o - is this the same as the "Creator of ..." and where can I learn more
about I'o?  And can we go to I'o for healing?

5) I very much want to learn the Hawaiian chants pertaining to healing, etc. 
This is calling to me in a very strong way.  When I was a child and teen, I
learned a few chants that pertained to the Hawaiian dances we were doing in
dance classes...do you have any suggestions, chants I could learn, recordings I
could listen too?

I am also looking for a good translation and recording of the Creation Chant - I
think it is called the Kumulipo (sp?).

6) When looking in a mirror – can the image in the mirror truly represent
oneself for self-healing, or is the reflection considered just an illusion?  
For example – I am standing in front of the mirror – I have a pimple on my nose
and I want to get rid of it.  By looking at it in the mirror – can I send Mana
to the image in the mirror for healing as long as I imagine the pimple that is
there to be gone?

Is the image in the mirror a true representation of oneself?  Is it better to
see the image in the mirror or see  the image of oneself free of the pimple in
the imagination?

Okay - that's it for now.

Aloha and a big mahalo Vince!

Love, light, laughter and huna,
Susanne in Los Angeles

#18345 From: Juan Heart of Light <juan_angel_de_luz@...>
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#18344 From: Ewald <ewald.gto@...>
Date: Fri Feb 5, 2010 7:34 pm
Subject: Breath!
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Hey Vince,

I started reading a great book last night and it says one of the definition of

Eve translates "breath"
Adam translates "no breath"

It also talks about the fire before the fire that created everything and the water!

Talks about Noah's ark actually being the trinity of man!

I now understand why the missionaries were impressed with the Hawaiian's knowledge of the old testament!

Lots of other incredible stuff!

It was written in 1913 and is called

"Bible mystery and bible meaning explained"  by Judge Troward.

Have you heard of it!?

Interestingly enough it all started with Lezli's post!

Somehow I got "sucked" into her post and had this urge to talk about a few things I usually keep to myself!

I know now that it happened for a reason. The reason being that I was looking for more understanding and now I found an incredible source that gives me yet another perspective!

The more I look the more I find out that Huna is an incredible tool!!!

What I like most about it is that it doesn't restrict you in any way and encourages you to test it for youself!

Ewald

  
Sent from my iPhone

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Date: Fri Feb 5, 2010 6:10 pm
Subject: New file uploaded to Huna-Ohana
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#18341 From: Willy Hartford <willy.hartford@...>
Date: Fri Feb 5, 2010 5:23 pm
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Maholo Vince, this is going to give me tracks to roll on.
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#18340 From: "Lezli" <dreeve2002@...>
Date: Fri Feb 5, 2010 5:12 pm
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Dear Ewald,
 
Goodness gracious!  I got the spirit vs matter thing, but I'm not ready to accept the good vs evil thing.  Intellectually I can wrap my mind around it, but on some level (I'm pretty sure it's my programming) some part of me is screaming out . . . What about all the bad things that happen to good people?  What about war and famine and on and on and on and . . . and OMG the chaos!
 
So, I can begin to understand how these things get constructed.  It's a way to explain the dichotomy we experience in this world.
 
I get that the glass is half full, half empty, and both at the same time.  I don't get that the glass is full too.  Perhaps I'm still stuck in thinking in physical terms.
 
Ok, when you speak about the forbidden fruit, you've brought up a subject I'm absolutely passionate about because the way that story is taught in the church and synagogue and mosque absolving man of his responsibility to his partner for his lack of teaching her the whole truth and for standing by as she was seduced in the garden by half truths and then placing blame on her for the choices he made.  Up to that point, they lived in oneness with God. Afterwards came separation and all its consequences.  Was it good?  Was it bad?  I dunno, but I do know that we have what we have and we have to work within the confines of the rules as they are now. 
 
Some people say that this is where fear comes in, the fear of betrayal, the fear of making a wrong turn, not knowing enough, fear of intimacy, greed, abandonment, quest for power and domination.  Some people say that it is deeply encoded in our psyche/genes.  Some people say the only way to get past these fears and limitations is to move through them and experience them in all their muckiness. 
 
Are you saying that all one has to do is to change their belief system and they can live magical lives?  Some people would say that you can believe what you want, but you're not living in reality.
 
Perhaps it is also a consequence to have selfishness because so many professions have to have tenets that include doing no harm.  We have to have discussions on ethics and politically there are now discussions on the split between ethics in business and politics and ethics in the home and community. 
 
So, you're right.  It is more complicated.  And the only way I know how to deal with that complexity is to ignore it and go on my way.  In a way, I do want to live in lala land. 
 
However, putting that aside, if one changes their beliefs, what happens to the old ones?  It has been my experience that when people aren't consciously aware of accepting new beliefs, they are often rejecting old beliefs unconsciously and thereby fracturing who they are.  How do you know what it is that you are doing?  I see this in myself, for instance, when I'm in church and I hear the typical sermon about Eve and the apple or I hear one about marriage.  I know that a good deal of what I feel has to do with experience, but also the church (or whatever institution) has an agenda they are pushing.  How do you know what is their agenda and therefore worth throwing out and what is the truth?
 
And it's not that I'm attached to FEAR, but that I don't know of any other way of being, so if I let go of it, that is the scariest place to be.  It's like jumping off a cliff and hoping to fly.  See Lilias Trotter.  I'd say if she can do it, I can except that she always knew she could and I didn't.  I guess that's what made her a mystic.
 
About the quark - I don't know of a Russian store in my area.  I'll just have to search it out and see what I can find.  Maybe Trader Joe's or a health food store can help.
 
Thank you so much for this discussion. 
Have a blessed day, ~L
 
 

From: Ewald
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Huna-Ohana] Introduction

Aloha Lezli,

Interesting concept "the devil", isn't it??

To me it's simply an opposite, rather than an entity, although it will become one the minute you define it!

Once the Absolute created a forum of opposites (space and time) it has now a way to experience itself!

So instead of it only having a concept of how things are it can now actually HAVE an experience!

But in order for that to happen it now has to choose between good and bad,  
left and right and so forth!

Actually it also can be both at the same time too, which is another option we need to consider!

Is the glass half full, half empty, or both at the same time?

Aren't all 3 options correct at the same time?

If we insist it's half full (good) it will be, if we say it's half empty (bad) it will be but isn't it full (good and bad) at the same time?

Insisting that one does not exist, or that half full is bad completely ignores that fact that everything simply exists!

So was picking the forbidden fruit our first sin, first blessing, or both?

Or is it simply a story that talks about  the first choice that separated us from the everything so we could have our first experience?

Matter simply is the medium that allows spirit to experience itself!

The rest is up to us! We label based on our beliefs, past experiences and conditioning! 

It's probably a little more complicated and complex than that, but to me life has changed after realizing that I don't have to choose between god and the devil, good and bad!

I have a choice who I want to be and BEcome in relationship to what is labeled good and bad instead of choosing between the two!

To deny one is to deny both and that's what most of us struggle with.

You can not experience oneness if you fear part if it! 

FEAR NOT!

Anyway, quark ( similar to cottage cheese) is also known as baker's cheese! Some Russian stores in the LA area actually carry an identical product to quark. I forgot the name though. If you've a Russian store nearby I'll find it out for you!

Cheers,

Ewald


 






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On Feb 4, 2010, at 8:30 AM, "Lezli" wrote:

 

Good Morning Ewald. 
 
Thanks so much for this email.  It brought back to me how it was that I thought back when before now. 
 
Ah!  The Possibilities!
 
I was searching inside myself, the container, and forgetting that I was a part of a whole rather than an entity unto myself.  As the saying goes, no man is an island.  No wonder I've been disconnected. 
 
Ok.  Breathing helps.  A lot.  And breathing helps me to see again. 
 
I've always seen this statement used as an explanation for the existence of evil. 
>In order for spirit to experience itself it has to create an environment that allows it to have an experience, so it has to create it's opposite, which is matter.
 
I truly appreciate your explanation of matter and spirit.  I've been reading John 17 and 3x Jesus asks that the disciples become one just as He is one.  <<< YES!
 
I am beginning to see how I've been 'trying' and that has been keeping me from achieving my dreams or even seeing my dreams.  Up till now I've been believing that I lacked something, but that which I lacked was always there, I had just given in to conventional thinking.  Staying within the lines has never been my forte and so, having chosen to box myself in for so long, no wonder I'm scared to step outside.  Ah, a new perspective from which to work.  Thank you.
 
Yes, it the finding of THAT message that seems so important now.  We all have some kind of story to tell, don't we?  It is finding that story that makes our lives so meaningful.
 
Grillflame!  lol - that forum that either drives me nuts or inspires me.  lol.  I'm so glad you found the post.  And for me. . . that post mentions quark, which is a 'super-food' (Genotype diet) for me and I never knew what it was.  So now I know.  lol.
 
There's a lot in your message and I keep rereading it and getting more and more out of it.  Thank you for taking the time to write it.
 
Blessings, Lezli
 
From: E.S.
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Huna-Ohana] Introduction

Hello Lezli,
 
Yeah..pretty bizarre story, but that's how the Universe works. It works THROUGH us.
 
We simply forget this very important fact and we look for the answer within us. However if we're blocked, or don't believe we can do it, we can't!
 
We are the medium through which the Universal Intelligence expresses itself. The harder we try the more self-absorbed we become and that's how we block and shut off our access to it.
 
We do it most of the time and then we get confused and search for the answers frantically based on what we "know" and that's how we get blocked. Your post reminded me again of how the answers "come" to us.
 
Sunday I absolutely intended to help two wonderful people, but I was too tired and exhausted to search and went to bed. I completely forgot about it and the very next day because of my intentions I was lead to a possible answer by simply following my impulses and intuition instead of looking several hours for it.
 
I've done things like that many times, but I've failed just as many.
 
How so, you might ask?! Well, It's actually very simple to explain.
 
We get confused by statements like "it's all within you",and even though it's true we're more than just the container our human body represents.
 
So we search only that container for the answer forgetting the fact that our container is connected with the entire Universe and that everything exists already either inside of us, and if not, somewhere else for sure.
 
Nothing outside of us can exist unless it exists also inside of us, that is true. The only thing that prevents us from seeing it are our beliefs. So the only thing inside of us are our beliefs, everything else exists everywhere and nowhere at the same time. I prefer to call it the infinite intelligence, but you can give it any name you want! It's always the same no matter what's the definition.
 
In order for spirit to experience itself it has to create an environment that allows it to have an experience, so it has to create it's opposite, which is matter.
 
So even though we say it's all an illusion, it really isn't. Matter is the medium that allows
spirit to become alive.
 
The minute Spirit becomes alive through Matter it is separating itself from the "undefined"! That's how it becomes less than the Whole, even though it exists simultaneously with the Whole. It can not be any other way because that's were it came from to begin with. (Do I make sense)
 
Like Lao Tsu said in one of his verses about "the Everything": "The minute you define it.... you've lost it"!
 
Now that Spirit has become alive through Matter it operates in opposites rather than in the Absolute giving ALL OF US the possibility to experience life and in turn the Absolute can experience itself through us.
 
This is how the infinite intelligence and everything else, including us, are ALL connected.
 
Isn't that exactly what all the great Masters have taught us? However, it's hard to comprehend and understand (impossible) the Absolute in a world ruled by opposites.  
 
I honestly believe there's a reason for that. Actually about 9 years ago I had a very clear vision about it with all the bells an whistles like bright white light and a voice telling me that there's a reason why nobody on this planet ever knew or will know the  entire "Truth"!
Some came very close, but that's as far as we can go as long as we live here.
 
Somehow we all "know" that there's more to us then what we can "see" but since we can't comprehend it we're having DOUBTS and FEARS and that keeps us from having what we really want.
 
So it was not really hard to spot your doubts and fears. :)  Don't forget we all have them and they actually serve a purpose.They show us where the Light is.
 
Doubt, fear, pain and all the other negative emotions are not there to drag us down but to show us what we've to work on.
 
IF YOU DOUBT YOU CAN GIVE YOUR FAMILY ALL THE WONDERFUL THINGS YOU'VE MENTIONED, THEN YOU CAN, BECAUSE YOU CAN ONLY SEE WHAT'S ALREADY INSIDE OF YOU.
 
It's your secret PASSION, isn't it?
 
You want the world to know about home schooling, about remote viewing, about how to have a happy family and all the other goodies we all want for ourselves.
 
Share it with the world, show others how to have what you want, take your eyes off your problems and the Universe will respond in kind.
 
If you understand that you're larger than life and that your cause is more important than your own problems...... your actions will create the very outcome you seek.
 
You have a gift (we all do) and it's about time that you FOCUS on sharing it and that focus will etch it into your own consciousness.
 
Don't release any of your thoughts and memories or whatever else SEEMS to hold you back and turn it into a MESSAGE. The only thing you can ever do is to separate your emotional pain from your experience, or to reframe it anyay. That's what they mean by releasing, unfortunately many confuse that with removing it from your memory and that hardly ever works.
 
Find the PAIN in the world that your MESSAGE will ease or even resolve and in return you'll get whatever your heart desires!
 
 
Oops, I almost forgot! Here's the link:
 
 
 
Ewald
 
 

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#18339 From: "Lezli" <dreeve2002@...>
Date: Fri Feb 5, 2010 4:28 pm
Subject: Re: "Study Guide for Huna Teachers"
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<<<<SNORT!>>>>
 
And you don't?
 
~L

Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Huna-Ohana] "Study Guide for Huna Teachers"

--- On Fri, 2/5/10, Lezli wrote:

> Good Morning Vince,

> All you have to do, when viewing the txt version in Notepad, is
> select Format and then Wordwrap and the document will work.

What?!?

... next you'll be asking us to slice our own bread?

Actually our own Stacey Vanatru has come to the rescue and produced a professional quality Acrobat version of the Guide.

It's in the files section now.

So enjoy!

--Vince

© 2010 Rev. James Vinson Wingo, DD

The Fundamentals of Huna Psychology
Now Huna Research, Inc. is making our most popular course
available to you by email ... and for the lowest price EVER offered 
http://huna.blogspot.com/2009/06/new-huna-course.html


#18338 From: "Rev. James Vinson Wingo, DD" <kahunaviking@...>
Date: Fri Feb 5, 2010 4:09 pm
Subject: Re: "Study Guide for Huna Teachers"
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--- On Fri, 2/5/10, Lezli wrote:

> Good Morning Vince,

> All you have to do, when viewing the txt version in Notepad, is
> select Format and then Wordwrap and the document will work.

What?!?

... next you'll be asking us to slice our own bread?

Actually our own Stacey Vanatru has come to the rescue and produced a professional quality Acrobat version of the Guide.

It's in the files section now.

So enjoy!

--Vince

© 2010 Rev. James Vinson Wingo, DD

The Fundamentals of Huna Psychology
Now Huna Research, Inc. is making our most popular course
available to you by email ... and for the lowest price EVER offered 
http://huna.blogspot.com/2009/06/new-huna-course.html


#18337 From: Huna-Ohana@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri Feb 5, 2010 3:41 pm
Subject: New file uploaded to Huna-Ohana
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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the Huna-Ohana
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   File        : /Study Guide for the Huna Teacher Program.pdf
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You can access this file at the URL:
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#18336 From: "Lezli" <dreeve2002@...>
Date: Fri Feb 5, 2010 3:03 pm
Subject: Re: "Study Guide for Huna Teachers"
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Good Morning Vince,
 
All you have to do, when viewing the txt version in Notepad, is select Format and then Wordwrap and the document will work.
 
~L

Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 2:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Huna-Ohana] "Study Guide for Huna Teachers"

Aloha y'all,

The text version lost it's edge, so I put up a Word version.

I'm sure somebody will figure it out and fix it for us

--Vince

© 2010 Rev. James Vinson Wingo, DD

The Fundamentals of Huna Psychology
Now Huna Research, Inc. is making our most popular course
available to you by email ... and for the lowest price EVER offered 
http://huna.blogspot.com/2009/06/new-huna-course.html


--- On Fri, 2/5/10, Rev. James Vinson Wingo, DD <kahunaviking@...> wrote:

From: Rev. James Vinson Wingo, DD <kahunaviking@...>
Subject: Re: [Huna-Ohana] "Study Guide for Huna Teachers"
To: Huna-Ohana@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 5, 2010, 3:17 AM

 

--- On Thu, 2/4/10, willy_hartford wrote:

> In "HUna Letter No. 4" The above is mentioned, where can I obtain
> this Guide?

Aloha Willy,

I'm going to upload a text version to the files section.

Enjoy!


--Vince

© 2010 Rev. James Vinson Wingo, DD


#18335 From: S <drakaran@...>
Date: Fri Feb 5, 2010 11:54 am
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to Huna-Ohana
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Small note about _A Dictionary of the Hawaiian Language_  The original
1865 book has been scanned by Google Books and contains the entire book
(except for 5 pages that were evidently damaged or missing). There was
another reprint done in 2003 and is available for $14.50 at:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0896103749?ie=UTF8&tag=freeonlinehun-20&linkCod\
e=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0896103749

Stacey

Huna-Ohana@yahoogroups.com wrote:
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> Hello,
>
> This email message is a notification to let you know that
> a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the Huna-Ohana
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#18334 From: S <drakaran@...>
Date: Fri Feb 5, 2010 12:06 pm
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_The Maori-Polynesian Comparative Dictionary (Paperback)_ can also be
obtained for $34.96 at:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1432664891?ie=UTF8&tag=freeonlinehun-20&linkCod\
e=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1432664891

(though it shows only 1 available, so not sure of availability after that.

Stacey

#18333 From: "Rev. James Vinson Wingo, DD" <kahunaviking@...>
Date: Fri Feb 5, 2010 9:26 am
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Aloha y'all,

The text version lost it's edge, so I put up a Word version.

I'm sure somebody will figure it out and fix it for us

--Vince

© 2010 Rev. James Vinson Wingo, DD

The Fundamentals of Huna Psychology
Now Huna Research, Inc. is making our most popular course
available to you by email ... and for the lowest price EVER offered 
http://huna.blogspot.com/2009/06/new-huna-course.html


--- On Fri, 2/5/10, Rev. James Vinson Wingo, DD <kahunaviking@...> wrote:

From: Rev. James Vinson Wingo, DD <kahunaviking@...>
Subject: Re: [Huna-Ohana] "Study Guide for Huna Teachers"
To: Huna-Ohana@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 5, 2010, 3:17 AM

 

--- On Thu, 2/4/10, willy_hartford wrote:

> In "HUna Letter No. 4" The above is mentioned, where can I obtain
> this Guide?

Aloha Willy,

I'm going to upload a text version to the files section.

Enjoy!


--Vince

© 2010 Rev. James Vinson Wingo, DD


#18332 From: Huna-Ohana@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri Feb 5, 2010 9:24 am
Subject: New file uploaded to Huna-Ohana
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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
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You can access this file at the URL:
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