Hydroxy Research Group Meeting minutes for 3 April 2007 held at
Najeba's Cafe in Turlock, CA.
1. It was reported that the HRG library display on alternative and
free-energy had been taken down, with as much being kept intact as
possible for future use and energy demonstrations. It was proposed
to get a HRG free-energy display up and running for Earth Day in
Graceada Park in Modesto on April 21st, by re-using, expanding and
improving on the library display. No volunteers were forthcoming to
assist Brad and Ivy in this endeavor, who stated they would do
whatever it took to get the job done, with the hopeful expectation
that the demonstration motor with audio/visual demonstration modes and
the hydroxy test vehicle would be ready in time to be presented to the
public on Earth Day.
2. When asked why the hydroxy hydrolyzer test vehicle was not ready
for trial runs, Brad produced his "To Do" list and explained that in
present good outdoor working weather he had too many priorities to
complete, and simply had to work his way through the list before he
would be able to devote any time towards free-energy research. While
not especially feeling confident in time estimates, Brad stated it
could easily take another full week's time to get caught up on the
priority items listed.
3. Ivy announced she had purchased a new Tom Bearden DVD on
free-energy for information purposes and possible inclusion in the
presentation on Earth Day. Volunteers were not forthcoming to
contribute towards the purchase cost of the DVD in helping defray
Ivy's expenses, however, most HRG members expressed interest in
the DVD's contents.
4. At last weeks HRG meeting the point of dissemination of information
was debated, with some members opting for copyright with
non-commercial use being the best means of dissemination of
information, while others felt that releasing all information into the
public realm would best serve the goal of total disclosure.
Discussion continued in today's meeting, with the conclusion that any
HRG member who did not wish to put his hard won devices or knowledge
into the public realm could best be served via obtaining a copyright
or patent which would provide some degree of protection, and that this
individual group member could, of course, do with their property
whatsoever they desired. Conversely, it was concluded, any individual
HRG member that wanted to release their information or devices into
the public realm would be welcome to do so, as they saw fit.
5. It was concluded that HRG collectively as a group, and the members
individually, would own no interest in any other HRG members
individual's real property, experiments, results or intellectual
property; essentially HRG would own nothing, being merely a format for
individuals sharing information, resources and allowing for individual
HRG members to work together as they choose with their tools, skills,
and shop/equipment resources. HRG consensus was that this procedure
avoids the differences of opinion in debate of morals and ethics and
in views on how best to disseminate knowledge, and places such
decisions with the individuals where it belongs, who are the ones
instigating experiments and producing results.
6. Essentially, it was concluded that Individual HRG members owned
their own experiments and results, and not Hydroxy Research Group or
its other members, meaning that HRG and it's members did not have any
financial or intellectual property rights in other HRG members'
experiments, which could not then subsequently be sold or bought out,
or sued over by other HRG members or public persons or other legal
entities. This conclusion was felt to be helpful in avoiding future
legal issues, thereby minimizing possible court actions, while
preserving the most options for disclosure of information to the
public. Having this worrisome issue at last settled was relieving for
the group and the meeting quickly moved on to discussion of other matters.
No further HRG business of note was forthcoming, and meeting was
adjourned by mutual consensus, until the next regularly scheduled
Tuesday meeting in Najeba's cafe.