Hydroxy Research Group Meeting minutes for 24 April 2007 held at
Najeba's Cafe in Turlock, CA

1. HRG members fussed and commented about non-timely arrival of other
group members. HRG being an all-volunteer organization, it was
recognized that this was an endemic condition, and strategies were
proposed. Brad considered that as he was often at the beck and call
of work scheduling, he at times could not complete all such actions
prior to the 10 a.m. HRG meeting schedule time, and proposed the
following solution: Brad would e-mail a copy of his talking points
for the scheduled meeting, and minutes for the last HRG meeting to
"C," Calvin, David and Judy, so that at least one of these four HRG
members would be present with Brad's materials, in case he was late.
2. All HRG members present liked the suggestion of having a back-up
plan in case material was to be presented by a member, who for one
delay or another, was unable to make it to the HRG meeting on time.
It was decided by consensus, that if as many as two or three HRG
members were present at 10 a.m. in Najeba's' Café, then as of 10
minutes past the hour, the HRG meeting would begin regardless of any
tardy HRg members coming later to the meeting.
3. Members asked why Brad had not completed the installation of his
hydrogen/oxygen boost cell in the test vehicle. Brad explained his
work load, and miniscule financing that could be applied to the
project, stating that next meeting, Brad would bring in a copy of his
To-Do list, and make a report as to why he did not have adequate
resources to timely verify and duplicate free energy devices and
claims, as found in HRG's format of hobbyist, volunteer, un-paid research.
4. Brad stated that he had been unable to finish the pop-up solar
shade canopy, due to lack of materials, funds to purchase same, and
lack of help from group members. Brad was unable due to finances to
purchase the necessary materials and supplies to print out any HRG
business cards or documents to pass out on Earth Day, or to have had
the time and materials necessary, working by himself to get the
computer/DVD displays ready for Earth Day, or the demonstration
Hydroxy powered engine/generator working and ready for Earth Day.
5. Brad acknowledged contributions from "C" in computer matters, Judy
in help with the program for printing HRG business cards, and the kind
offer of assistance printing cards by Calvin, which was unfortunately
made too late to meet Earth day set-up deadlines, and acknowledged a
minor contribution by David of several papers he had for the display.
6. All members universally condemned Brad for not going forth on Earth
Day regardless of preparations, to make a showing for alternative and
free-energy concepts. Brad confessed that he felt Earth Day had been
a good dry-run for getting a display together, and that this
preparation would continue, and HRG would look at other possible
festivals to present HRG findings in energy.
7. Brad flatly stated that he was feeling a bit like the "Little Red
Hen" of fable, as no one was helping with substantial contributions in
setting up the display, and it appeared that all other HRG members
were simply waiting for him to test a hydroxy cell, prove out the
system, and then they were all ready to use this info to their
advantage, once the experimental work was accomplished, possibly then
to produce units and kits for sale or installation.
8. Brad felt that this was a legitimate outcome for HRG members if
they so desired, as he would be sharing information with all and
sundry, and that any member of the public would have be able to
benefit from his research. Brad did caution, that HRG members would
have no ownership of intellectual property that he produced, and that
his intent was either to release the info to the public, or utilize
legal protections such that the research could be protected from
non-authorized commercial use and/or protected from being bought out
and energy devices taken out the market place.
9. This started a lively debate, reminiscent of a HRG meeting of
several weeks ago, where it was decided that HRG as a group owned
nothing, the rights remaining with the individual inventors/innovators
to do with their invention/property as they pleased.
10. The HRG meeting ended with contention, HRG members, however,
consensually agreeing that if they were not helping more, they would
simply have to wait for Brad to complete his efforts as best his time,
energies and funds would allow.

No further HRG business was forthcoming, and the meeting was adjourned
until the next regularly scheduled Tuesday meeting in Najeba's Café.