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Nov 5, 2009 11:45 pm
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Steve, We have come full circle. We are back to the question of how do you know, how can you know? Everything known is arrived at by a specific process. Is it...
Hi all, This post has taken me a long time as I had to go through many messages in order to meet Jon Bennett's challenge to prove that he was proselytising or...
John, how could you forget me! I'm devestated! :-) Yep well religion and churches are inextricably bound together. But I take your point, maybe I should have...
Correction re: Sheldrake Line should read "You are wrong Jon when you say Sheldrake is not a Christian. He himself says he is." I omitted the "not" in the...
Lewis, just like this one of yours. I was asking you - if possible - to include to whom you address your post and (lesser important, since we know you already)...
Frank, I did not forget * Y O U *, I forgot how witty your remarks were. John ... From: "antstig" <antstig@...> To: <ISCE_complex-M@yahoogroups.com> ...
This raises its ugly head from time to time so I would like to hear the groups comments on this. Many complex problems are really just complicated problems...
Dear list I have gotten halfway through the arguments you have been throwing upon one another. Was getting ready to throw up my hands. Until I ran across a...
OK - Some of you might remember me - I have been hanging around since the early list - almost tempted to add to the debate - but not quite. I often found...
Deb, it's not about belief systems, it's about humans being humans. Yes it would be nice to discuss how complexity applies to belief systems but when some...
This is addressed mostly to the recent newcomers to the list. Many who were connected to the list but then fell away and now are back. Welcome. But maybe it...
Tom, allow me to reply to you mile-long and even longer post at the size of a mouse's tail. "...If you have a workable alternative, then fine. .." I reserve...
from Lewis L. Smith I was person who brought up the subject of the "rapture" movement within Christianity. While I have my personal preferences, I am an...
mmbtupr@...
Nov 7, 2009 7:44 pm
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Yep, I'll go along with that, John. Can we get back so some real discussions on Complexity please. Er like my post "Complexity vs Complicatedness" lol. Plug...
Workable to whom? The word 'ethics' comes from the Greek word 'ethos' which means custom or habit. Ethics are what we all agree on to right. A friend of mine...
Complexity is a branch of mathematics. Traditional mathematics could explain a straight line or a simple curve such as a parabola with an equation. But there...
Well to me a layman that seems a good basic description of Chaos and Complexity and those who are minded to apply these tenets to economics, sociology etc...
from Lewis L. Smith As a pro bono researcher in the discipline of complexity since 1994, I must disagree with the assertion that complexity is "a branch of...
mmbtupr@...
Nov 8, 2009 2:41 pm
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from Lewis L. Smith When complexity first began to come together as a field, some people dreamed of finding the equivalent of Newton's Laws of Motion....
mmbtupr@...
Nov 8, 2009 2:51 pm
2054
Frank, I'd argue that most successful consultants use more intuition than formal methodologies for interventions that relieve those symptoms (even though the...
Lewis, My working definition of truth is, "Valid within a theory (where theory is broadly defined to include such things as mental models)." I think I've...
Deborah, Yes indeed. To rephrase an old saying... Some people talk about things. Others talk about the belief systems that shape the way we understand things....
I agree. "Successful consultants" is the nub. There are many snake oil consultants out there who invoke Complexity as some sort of magic incantation and try to...
I was looking for articles on the topic of 'Complexity and Absolutes' because I think this is an area that has led to much debate. I came across the following...
Frank, I know exactly what you are talking about. The key for me is that complexity science has no direct and immediate application in a social environment. At...
from Lewis L. Smith I beg to differ from Frank. I do believe that complexity has some very definite implications for the social environment, among them >> ...
mmbtupr@...
12:22 am
2061
Lewis, But I don't disagree with you at all. I also believe complexity science has lots to tell people in the social domain. My argument was that we can use...