That's an interesting point John about the usage of `modern' and `post-modern'. It is a shame that `modernism' seems to have been linked so closely to...
Hi John Here's another slant on the modern/postmodern contrast that I have found difficult to convey (for good reasons) in the past, and the term `paradigm'. ...
Hi Bill – if I understand your metaphor correctly then the cup and the handle codetermine each other and the form of each is context dependent… so any grip...
Yep! But I got to laughing cause if you're from Tennesse there is this company that talks a lot about Gentleman Jack... Several years ago, in the first major...
Bill Wells
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Dec 1, 2008 8:08 pm
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Thanks Kurt, I don't have much time to give to this today, but I want to make a quick response or two. This may not be the best approach, because I may have to...
Kurt, I esteem your politesse, patience and seriousness in these replies of yours (including to me). It was an exhausting exercise to read them along (I try to...
Hi, Jon (no "h"), thanks for helping me out in replying to Kurt upon his remark including the "H". I do not object, in the contrary, I am thrilled. Made a pun...
Kurt: thank you thank you. As I hinted to Jon 10 minutes ago, I do not look down on reductionism very strongly - since this is the only way human mind could...
Only kidding ;-) There isn't much for me to comment upon what you posted below as I've chosen to interpret it in a way that I find myself agreeing! I think...
Your very kind John… and you are right about the dangers of post length ;-) I'll keep it short. K From: ISCE_complex-M@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ISCE_complex-...
... the word from my contention. If it is non-paradigmatic, it is not a paradigm. I think it is important to understand what non-paradigmatic might mean. Jon...
Let's see, when I ask you if either the both-and arguments ain't right, or the either/or arguments ain't right-you say that the either/or arguments ain't...
PBS recently aired a program on fractals called ‘Hunting the Hidden Dimension’ which included several interviews with one of the founders of Chaos Theory,...
from Lewis L. Smith My favorite definition of a fractal is the following > A fractal is a wiggly line, such as the edge of a beach, which looks just...
mmbtupr@...
Dec 2, 2008 11:59 am
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Yes Tom, I did see the NOVA episode. I guess complexity and chaos is coming of age. It was interesting how Mandelbrot was rejected by the very mathematicians...
I was once told that a profound truth is one where both a thesis and its antithesis are simultaneously true... K ... From: ISCE_complex-M@yahoogroups.com...
Kurt: if you fall out of 'paradigm', are you in a 'metadigm' or orthodigm'? We have so many poorly understandable word-variations, why use the few we really...
Lewis, in the heydays of "recent chaos thinking" (I use this monster to cut out the non-chaos of the 'chaos theory', an oxymoron, if you think if it) there was...
What are some more interesting examples of fractals in time or in space. What about fractal logic? The interesting thing about the antennae in your cell phone,...
I once read in a profound Book somewhere: "Woe unto him who calls good, evil and evil, good." and from the same Book "There is a way that seems right to a man,...
Many of you, I'm sure, are familiar with the book 'A New Earth' by Eckhart Tolle. One of Tolle's teachers is a Zen Master named Genpo Roshi. Roshi talks about...
from Lewis L. Smith I had some difficulty in understanding John Mike's post above subject, but offer the following two comments. [1] Take a coastline,...
mmbtupr@...
Dec 3, 2008 12:31 pm
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Jon, the recent verbosity of the list brought out of me some 'not-so-scientific' responses. One is to your Orig. post below (btw: antenna is the singular, in...
... subject, but offer the following two comments. ... good example of a fractal. ... ruler used to measure it. However, people have a custom to cut off the ...
David Sill
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Dec 3, 2008 5:40 pm
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List, Jon, John, Alice: Thank you for the response Jon. I immediately drafted a long-ish reply but the system ate it. So, this is a second effort after longer...
Tom, Kurt, and all, Thanks for your recent posts on this subject, all of you. By the way, I personally don't mind long post, I guess that is evident enough,...
David and Lewis, sorry, I thought we are past that classical example-case by at least 15 years and I can just refer to it as a classic prerequisit. Will...
I want to look a little closer at the idea of exclusivity. One of the things I've been trying to call attention to is the difference between and idea, and a...
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