Hi, Last month I mentioned that I had been reading Vince Diehl's fifty or so prophecies regarding America and was trying to find his most recent prophecy ...
Dear List Member (Apologies if you have received this notice via other routes) I am writing to you today to let you know of a new book concerning the...
Dear All, I need some help in understanding the relationship of six sigma to the complexity paradigm. There is a great article by Dooley on Tqm, and Chaos. I...
Hi Jon, Here are my thoughts on this six-sigma question. All organizations are complex systems that are self-organizing all the time. Six-sigma is a way to...
Hi Dick (and Jon), I would phase this quite differently. Somehow the principles of six sigma have to be introduced in established patterns of working. These...
Frank (Symphoenix Ltd)
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Oct 12, 2005 1:13 pm
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This article may help give some ideas on how to further generalize and apply lean thinking to other areas. This example deals with public transit systems. ...
I think there are real problems reconciling Six Sigma with any complexity approach The detailed process analysis and the creation of explicit measure of ...
Dear All, Thanks to everyone who responded to my last query on six sigma and complexity. I'll be getting back with everyone eventually. I'd like to follow up...
Hi Richard, That rings true for me. I guess getting the top people to really ;-) 'let go' of the reigns of power is the tough one. Though perhaps not very...
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Oct 12, 2005 10:50 pm
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Hi Frank, I was looking at it from the inside-out as in participative self-organization. Peace, Dick...
Dave, Can you elaborate on the idea below, with some specific examples. And how do you suggest balancing these approaches? I'm coming to see that the number...
Dear All Here is one of the few articles I've come across linking the lean movement with complexity. http://www.ifm.eng.cam.ac.uk/mcn/pdf_files/part5_61.pdf It...
I've been reading this discussion with interest and agree with Dave Snowden. I find it hard to reconcile Six Sigma with complex (human) systems. In fact, the...
Dave: Could this be the crux of our challenge? There seems to always be a degree of unorderedness inside as well as outside the corporate boundary at some...
My view is that we need to avoid what I call "single ontology sense making" whether that ontology is based on "order" or "complexity" [I mean ontology here in...
Dave and all, In an earlier post Dave Snowden said, There is an interesting phenomena in the history of management theory – ideas created in a manufacturing...
Hi Jon and others, I agree that we have both the mechanistic and complexity models (or living systems models) operating simultaneously. As a leader I have to...
International Journal of Organizational Analysis (IJOA) IJOA is a quarterly journal that publishes original theoretical and empirical articles that address...
Jon, I do think that we tend to get too hung up about 'right', 'wrong' and this so well established notion of 'open' and 'closed' systems. My suggestion is ...
Frank (Symphoenix Ltd)
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Oct 19, 2005 12:56 pm
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It would be (I think) a mistake to get rid of the open and closed systems concept as it is key Let me try a set of statements - People interacting in...
to Complex-M List from Lewis L Smith In mathematics, "closed" means that the values on the boundary of a set are include within...
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Oct 22, 2005 12:19 am
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Dave, "Open" and "closed" are always relative terms. There is no such thing as a totally closed system. For example any human system is taking in energy from...
I am in a sense in agreement with you, though I am of the opinion that to the contrary, that there might be a case where disorder might be a revelation, a form...
Hey Buck, Good to see you in the discussion. May I wax philosophic for a bit. I think it's important to realize that in mechanistic thinking closed was not...
No form of categorization is ever perfect and no claim is made to that effect, The distinction is however useful We generally do this when words (to use a J C...
Hello, This 'thread' and a few others here seems (to me) to open the w'o'ndow for a visual artist to offer whatever insights or outsites he/she can...i am...
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Oct 22, 2005 1:31 pm
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Andrew, You remind me a bit of At de landge. I miss him. I remember he was very ill. I still have some of his posts saved to my computer-a very interesting...
Jon, Good to hear from you also. Appreciate all the content you have been creating for this list. I understand Dooley's hypothetical observation - see below -...
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