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Re: [ISO8601] Re: UTC didn't exist before 1961

When I mentioned in an earlier post that I would reject certain date-times in the ISO 8601 format,

I meant that I would halt processing or flag them for further attention. The resolution would be

on a case-by-case basis. The solution might just be adopting a statement together with the

date source along the lines "the date time format for purposes of _______ shall be a

non-compatible alteration of the ISO 8601 standard. . ."




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All the parts of the standard that discuss Universal Time or time zones specify that everything is based on Coordinated Universal Time (UTC). But UTC didn't...
pqrc96
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Feb 28, 2009
8:14 pm

8601 also requires the use of the Gregorian calendar, which did not exist prior to 1582, for all dates. It is easy to extrapolate back. For time, the concept...
johnmsteele
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Mar 1, 2009
12:59 am

Some people who write in Wikipedia are interested in using microformats to provide a machine-readable version of important dates and times, in the hopes that...
pqrc96
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May 23, 2009
6:56 pm

In a very strict technical sense it may have been overlooked. However, prior to atomic clocks, you have to relax the formality of beating in synch with atomic...
johnmsteele
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May 23, 2009
10:26 pm

I don't see a problem....
piebaldconsult
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May 25, 2009
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Did the responses answer your question sufficiently? The problem(s) are not really with the standard. As you go back in time, UTC doesn't exist, time zones...
Tex Texin
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May 25, 2009
8:31 am

Right. Doesn't the standard call for a proleptic Gregorian calender for dates before 1582 & after the present (and that more digits/negative dates are allowed...
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ali0917
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May 25, 2009
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... Yes, but seconds generally aren't important in day-to-day events anyway. If you're going to try to calculate an offset to great precision you may need to...
piebaldconsult
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May 26, 2009
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I was thinking of historical examples like the offset The Netherlands used sometime in the last 100 years that had an offset precise to the centisecond....
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ali0917
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May 26, 2009
11:35 pm

I started this thread. After seeing the responses, I don't really see anything that would change my ideas, but knowing that my thoughts have been reviewed by...
pqrc96
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May 29, 2009
9:21 am

Hi, You are welcome to do whatever you want of course, but I don’t think this is what was suggested or recommended and I don’t think you should in any way ...
Tex Texin
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May 29, 2009
9:46 am

I agree with Tex's remarks. But I would add the following three points: *Dates don't have time zones. Only times or "date and time" representations have time...
johnmsteele
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May 29, 2009
11:39 am

John Good comments. I am surprised by your comment on dates. Dates definitely do have time zones. Since time zones span 25 hours, without mention of the zone, ...
Tex Texin
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May 29, 2009
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... Personally, I think that would be fairly silly....
piebaldconsult
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Jun 1, 2009
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... That's fine if your application imposes such restrictions, but it is not what ISO 8601 requires. ISO 8601 fixes some notations but it does not constrain...
Deckers, Michael
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Jun 4, 2009
6:50 pm

... True, so we may never know the offset, but that doesn't interfere with using ISO 8601. You can simply indicate "local time" by not specifying the offset....
piebaldconsult
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May 26, 2009
2:03 pm

No....
piebaldconsult
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Apr 4, 2009
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Tex,   I agree with the dilemma you pose.  In reality, that means date alone often does not suffice and you must consider time of day as well.   However, in...
John Steele
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May 29, 2009
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When I mentioned in an earlier post that I would reject certain date-times in the ISO 8601 format, I meant that I would halt processing or flag them for...
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