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ISO8601 doesn't deal with DST because it's not necessary, and messy, and just plain stupid. When sending time data, for instance when a conference call will...
I agree with you that time zone and daylight savings are very difficult to work with and change in unpredictable ways at times. However, difficulty is not a...
I agree.with the following. Herman J Woudenberg In a message dated 10/7/2004 4:24:04 AM Central Daylight Time, tex@... writes: I agree with you that...
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Agree, to fix international events UTC is perfect. A time zone with DST rules together can be considered as a timescale. So if you change your location you may...
No, giving some arbitrary DST thingy is no good, it can still be misinterpreted. A UTC value with _one_ offset is much clearer. If you _must_ give a value in...
Does it make any difference if we say 2004-10-08T15:00-06:00 or if we say 2004-10-08T21:00Z? I could think of two points: a) The first notation is easier and...
Now I don't know what you're saying. So I'll just reply to your first part with the A and B. I've given that some thought myself. I think sending time values...
On your first point, the standard allows either notation. I agree with your point about the usefulness of knowing the sender's time zone. That usefulness...
The notation of EU25 instead of EU+01 and US18 instead of US-06 should actually avoid the confusion caused by signed numbers. EU25 and US18 are _names_. Names...
I was not aware of the EU25 notation or the two step mapping to actual offset. I still find it overly cumbersome and prefer just stating an offset to UTC. I...
I certainly accept that it is a PITA for those involved in precise timekeeping. As a "civilian," I like the long evenings in the summer, and feel it better...
On 2004-10-20 06:55:40 -0700, John Steele wrote: [Abolishing DST] ... Instead of changing the clock, you could change opening/closing hours and things like...
... And double-ditto for time zones. A stupid idea, invented by the railway companies for their own convenience, and should have been dumped along with the ...
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... hours Exactly, don't make _me_ change _my_ clock, just because _you_ like evening hours. If _you_ want to run _your_ business with different hours in the...
... My source of or information (or possibly misinformation) was wikipedia: "The first time zone in the world was established by British railroads December 1,...
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It depends on what you mean by a time zone. The railways, I believe, created a time standard of Greenwich meridian time applying throughout their systems,...
... in ... The US Naval Observatory seems pretty convinced that time zones were introduced by the railroads in 1883 and not mandated by the government until...
... The USNO, of course, is unaware of the existence of countries outside the US. Or their governments, apparently. Not that any of this has anything to do...
... Which notation would children learn easier? E.g. if they had to convert calendar times 20:00 US18 into timescale EU25 resp. 20:00 US-06 into timescale...
... outside the ... Apparently, so is this UK site. They credit the chief engineer of a Canadian railroad with proposing the system in 1878, adoption by US ...
Hi all, Where are we going? Been away for a few weeks and trying to sort thru the mail... Let me see if I got this straight. DST should be abolished. No, it...
I meant to add one rant of my own. Why is it the cable modem companies can't figure out the dst switch properly? My comcast modem changed clock's last night,...
... Who are you to say my kid won't understand time zones and negative numbers? I remember understanding negative numbers in first grade because I have older...
Hi, I am not sure why you need to be so caustic in your answers. Of course, there is always some age before which a child does not know negative numbers. Maybe...
Posted By: scolebourne Date: 2002-03-10 10:47 Summary: _ISO8601 dates and time now a project goal_ (http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=159559) ...
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Tuesday, February 24, 2004 _Joda Time - An open source Java date and time API. _ (http://joda-time.sourceforge.net/index.html) Date and Time handling is...
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ISO C 200X Proposal Calendar Date Function for the C standard ISO/IEC 9899:1999 refers to ISO 8601 27 times. Bad news they are proposing a week of the year...
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[2004-11-02] Hi, Just to let you all know that we have now passed the 1000 messages mark in this forum. Keep on discussing things. It is making a difference! ...
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