One note about "methodological solipsism:" it is Carnap's term for the initialization of focal consciousness, i.e., without one's self existent as data-stream...
You said, "That which is timeless can not be united with that which is part of time/space at the human level". I agree in the sense that there is something...
... being ... desire ... beings, ... of ... beyond ... less ... relative ... to ... I note that you refer to the "absolute" too in your expressions. And as you...
Folks, I'm not so sure how much we progressed in our discussion on the absolute. Positions have been changed, returned to and changed again. I would suggest a...
MessageFolks, I guess that all of us, more or less, agree with Don. I'm still not sure that a progress was made and that an agreement on the absolute was in...
... Recently, a friend recommended the book called "Focusing," by Eugene T. Gendlin, Ph.D. It has to do with being in the state of witness. Thank you for your...
... I'm ... think - ... This expression contains an absolute meaning. I agree with you in the limited sense that what is found to be expressible is NOT...
... <hucklebird@a...> ... agreement ... ask ... in the ... completely ... ABSOLUTE DECLARATION) implies the ... That is, when the relative is taken as...
According to the "expert witnesses" (thank you, Stephen, am happily borrowing "Focusing" from local public library), e.g. Saint Paul, Paramahansa Yogananda, et...
"jim", A question. Why we do not have continuous lines of saints - where each of them learned from others in this realm? Why we do have so big "gaps" between...
Damir, I'll extend Arthur Fine's "natural ontological attitude" (NOA) argument to try to answer. Fine asks (in "The Shaky Game" and elsewhere) "What is it to...
"jim", I like the parable between scientific and religious communities, cultures, traditions... Here, I entirely agree that we do have lineages of followers. ...
We may propose that all is relative in the weakest sense that this stipulation carries no loss of generality as the non-relative is beyond our grasp. In this...
Conclusion: The postulate of non-derivation itself (GIVEN AS AN ABSOLUTE DECLARATION) implies the ... Stephen: I would suggest that this postulate does not...
Hucklebird: You make my argument mathematical but we still seem to end up with the same conclusion: all starts from relativity and all ends with relativity....
... absolute, ... Don, the statement contains a meta-level meaning. The meta-level meaning communicates something that is universal. An absolute statement is...
Damir, your question as originally given: "Why do we not have continuous lines of saints - where each of them learned from others in this realm? "Why do we...
If you "don't know" by the inside system of relations then this implies a meta-level meaning that is universal and engages the outside system of relations. The...
... engages ... meaning. The ... must a ... define ... same ... things ... or "idea" ... meanings, ... an ... and ... Let us give an example where C is...
Yes, C is relative as it depends on A and B. However, C is not the meta-level meaning that holds universal appeal. The meta-level meaning is "A & B implies C"....
... implies a ... That A-&-B-implies-C does not depend on A and B being true. A and B could be false, and A & B would still imply C. It is only the truth of C...
Stephen ... implies a ... Personally, I request that you not view my statements as implying universality. I could be wrong about all my assumptions. You are...
... Okay, I am happy to drop the word ALL from the line following your instructions. So I will not assume you are saying "ALL is relative". "SOME is relative"...
"jim" I apologise for misspelling "heaven" and also regarding some inaccuracies. I respect your knowledge in the area and I do take you as a kind of authority...
Definately simplistic!!! lol I love the saying at the end, I can't see why I am not an equal to J.C... The whole point is that it's there for everyone - to...
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Personally, I request that you not view my statements as implying ... Okay, I am happy to drop the word ALL from the line following your instructions. So I...
... then ... Actually, it is my view too. The key word is "appears", as we are looking into the representational face of a semiotic interaction. Appearance...
Nevetheless, the principle does hold a universal, as the context that supports the appearance must attract to singularity to support meaning and communication;...
Hi Damir, a quick tidying up of some misconceptions, clutter, and debris, then onward. Re critique (non-judgmental, I assure you) of your use of "haven;" ...
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