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Re: St Thomas, the myth

--- In IndiaArchaeology@yahoogroups.com, "S. Kalyanaraman"
<kalyan97@...> wrote:

Interesting point.

One neglected field of study however is definitely the trade
connections between South India and the Persian Empire. It is
reasonable to expect that the Thomas Christians are also a result of
the Islamic conquest of Persia, as are the Parsees. The Christians of
Kerala also resemble the Parsees in their small number, their
restricted distribution.

There could be Persian sources actually recording when a mission took
off from some part of Persia. Just as in later years we have, in
Portuguese annals, the departure of trade and religious missions to
various countries.

In any case, do we have any Persian inscription older than Sassanian
inscription(s) in Tamilnadu or Kerala?

It would also help to evaluate the extent of Christian settlements in
Kerala, the Coromandel Coast (if any) and the population of
Christians before the coming of Vasco da Gama. Possibly there were
very small in number for a long time. This is borne out by the fact
that, until well after the arrival of the Portuguese, the Christian
churches of Kerala imported their head priests routinely from Edessa,
Antioch and other places in the Persian empire. The number of Indian
Christians could have swollen considerably after the Portuguese
started their aggressive conduct toward the coastal kingdoms and more
importantly, toward the indigenous non-Roman churches, especially
with the establishment of a Roman diocese in Cochin by the 1550's.

It is also strange that for such an important mythic and common
christian term such as the Cross, Malayalam commonly employs a word
derived from the Portuguese (kurissu) whereas Tamil commonly uses the
one derived from Aramaic or Syriac (ciluvai).

Hope this helps,

Lakshmi Srinivas


>
> St Thomas, the myth
>
> http://hindutva97.blogspot.com/2008/07/st-thomas-myth.html
>
> St. Thomas' two skeletons (Mylapore, India; Ortona, Italy)
>
> Can you name the only Saint who left behind his two skeletions?:
One was the
> skeleton as a youth (Found in Mylapore, Chennai), and the second
skeleton as
> an old man (Found in Ortona, Italy). St. Thomas deserves a
Bollywood movie
> to celebrate creationism.
>
> Kalyanaraman
>
> Read more� http://www.scribd.com/doc/3826832/St-Thomas
>





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St Thomas, the myth http://hindutva97.blogspot.com/2008/07/st-thomas-myth.html St. Thomas' two skeletons (Mylapore, India; Ortona, Italy) Can you name the...
S. Kalyanaraman
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... <kalyan97@...> wrote: Interesting point. One neglected field of study however is definitely the trade connections between South India and the Persian...
lsrinivas
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Jul 17, 2008
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... Syrian Christians are most likely the result of the Islamization of the areas from West Asia to Persia, most significantly the region comprising parts of...
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Jul 20, 2008
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... Interesting information. The fact that no Malayalam speaking trading castes exist today in Kerala may have nothing to do with Christians and Muslims. It...
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Are there any archaeological evidences for "doubted / doubting thomas"? ... From: lsrinivas <lsrinivas@...> Subject: [Ind-Arch] Re: St Thomas, the myth ...
Vedaprakash Vedaprakash
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... Arent' there Chettiars other than these Nattukottai ones in Tamil Nadu? There are many Chettiars in Kerala who claim their ancestors migrated there...
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... <radha_canada@...> wrote: I think there's a class of traders who're called vanniya chettiyars. They're primarily vanniyar and chettiyar is a title they go...
lsrinivas
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Jul 29, 2008
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There was a statement, below, that the word for "cross " in Kerala is Kurissu which is derived from Portuguese. This does not, of course, necessarily show...
varmha
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Jul 24, 2008
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... Correct me if I'm wrong - "kurissu" is the common word, not "sleebo". This was not pointed out to draw any conclusion about antiquity of the church there....
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As I wrote earlier the history of Christianity in Kerala is an intriguing one and not clearly understood due to lack of documented references.   However, it...
Ram Varmha
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... wrote: I think Prof Menon's description talks of evidence for the presence of Christians in 849 AD. I have absolutely no problem accepting that. It is the...
lsrinivas
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... brought to Kerala by the Apostle St. Thomas. The common legend has that. But, it may have been brought by some of the Jews who were practicing that new...
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Aug 1, 2008
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Kindly visit www.nasrani.net, where I have been discussing the "myth" with them. Their reaction and responses have been interesting, intriguing and informative...
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  The contacts with the Roman maritime trade in and around Kodungallur, Pattanam, Parur etc need no copper plate readings. Many gold coins have been...
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