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Re: Rapleaf

I share this immediate reaction - I understand the allure of using databases
like these as well as contact management services that you upload your contacts
to. And while the activities that rapleaf.com undertakes seem OK if a little
intrusive done on a one-off basis the bulk nature certainly give me pause for
thought. It's like spam - one irrelevant email in my in box wouldn't bother
me even if I didn't like it particularly but when there are a lot of them it
changes the nature of your relationship with your email.

And the free nature of the services make them much worse. If the business model
is not about servicing you as a customer then it must be about using something
that you bring to them that they can sell to another customer. When it isn't
clear what that is I become very skeptical, good intentions aren't enough. Even
when privacy is talked about well (and rapleaf's privacy policy looks better
than many) the lack of an actual contract makes it unenforceable (and
consequently meaningless in the event of a merger or change of heart).

Organizations should think carefully before engaging in this sort of information
sharing (and investigation into their stakeholders' online lives). I think we
could find the same sort of backlash against this sort of practice as we have
seen in the past against the practice of selling donor names and addresses.
It's not what people expect you to do when they give you their personal details
- so if they find you have done so and it results in adverse consequences for
them (or if it just offends their sense of a right to privacy) they're going to
see it as a breach of trust, which is a hard thing to recover from.

Helen




Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:45 pm

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(Dear ISF Colleagues: I'd be interested in hearing from any ISF members who have tried Rapleaf. What did you think? Can this be done in an appropriate way,...
Deborah Elizabeth Finn
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Jun 10, 2008
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<http://news.cnet.com/At-Rapleaf,-your-personals-are-public/2100-1038_3-6205716.html>...
Fuller, Theron K Mr I...
fulletk
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Jun 10, 2008
6:12 pm

It just reinforces my intense desire to get off of Facebook. My desire to meet online with friends and associates should not result in my being profiled by...
Peter Campbell
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Jun 10, 2008
6:14 pm

Interesting perspective and definitely someething to consider, but I think it's good to keep in mind that this information should not be used by itself, but...
hshess
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Jun 10, 2008
7:18 pm

My personal response, and I have not been a privacy advocate in the past - and though I had almost no personal information posted on any of the sites, was to...
Richard H. Roth
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Jun 11, 2008
2:22 pm

Richard, Rather than opting out of all social networking sites, why not just opt out of Rapleaf: http://www.rapleaf.com/opt_out I did. Or are your concerns...
Robert Weiner
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Jun 11, 2008
4:26 pm

I have never been a privacy advocate - but I seem to be shifting. Until and unless I get to own my "own" personal information I am beginning to have serious...
Richard H. Roth
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Jun 12, 2008
2:14 pm

I share this immediate reaction - I understand the allure of using databases like these as well as contact management services that you upload your contacts...
Helen Seal
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Jun 11, 2008
4:27 pm

I just joined Rapleaf and made all my information private. It's important to know about these services so that we can try to manage the information out there....
Jacqueline A. Morris
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Jun 11, 2008
8:38 pm

I know Rapleaf and their CEO Auren Hoffman, great guy. Basically, Rapleaf only searches publicly available information from blogs, forums, social networks,...
Matt Turck
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Jun 10, 2008
7:19 pm

... Dear Jacqueline, and other esteemed colleagues: I just did as you suggested, although it seems unfair to make me do that. I'd prefer it if Rapleaf used an...
Deborah Elizabeth Finn
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Jun 11, 2008
9:23 pm

Deborah, I'm right there with you on this recommendation (except for the psycho ex -- mine have all been relatively sound of mind. Then again, they dated...
Peter Campbell
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Jun 12, 2008
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