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ba tashakor az shoma va hameh dustan.
hameh afrade grouh pishnahedete khuby dadand ke baesse khosh-haly
ast.
be nazare man agar bekhahim komaky ham be TV bekonim mitavanim
hamanja ke register mishavim mablaghy ra be pishnahade khodeman
baraye komake mahiane eelam kardeh va afrad akhlaghan molzam be
pardakht bashand.
mitavan hatta az grouh-haye digar ham estefadeh kard va TV dar kenar
daramadhaye digar yek sherkate taavony dashteh bashad.
mitavan be in afrad baraye porsesh-ha zamane bishtary dad.afrady ke
komake naghdy mikonand az emtiazate bishtary estefadeh konand.
ba tashakor
ghorbane hame karimi.

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azizan salam,
man chand roz ON naboodam,hala ke mail hay REIS BOZORG
ro khondam chand nokte be zehnam resid :
   1>soal: aya tarikh daghighi az shoro barname
darim,agar na hododi chetor? ceghadr vaght darim?
   2>soal: dar mored nazarat aya bayad dar goroh ha
bahs kard ya bad az  sort kardan nazarat hame baham
raje be onha sohbat mikonim ?
   3>ba TEAM LEAD movafegam,be har hal hamishe to film
ha didim ke farmande naghsharo tozih mide bad mige,OK
soali nist!!
   4>dar mored goroh hai ke ehtemalan ozvi peyda
nemikonand,behtare 2 goroh nazdiko ba ham ro makhloot
kard,fekr konam yek goroh roie 2 ta mozo kar kone
behtare ta chand nafar az chand goroh.
   dar payan,alan vaght emtehan hay mane az team mikham
ye 10-12 rozi be man OFF bede,mibakhshid ke az hamin
aval na avordam to kar, albate hamey saiam ro baray
residan be har do kar mikonam, shomam doa konid
lotfan.
ghorban hame,
Amin Mahmudian (kardani computer term 3 <shaiad
mikhastid bedonid>);
--- Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@...> wrote:

> Salam,
>
> A. Vaght an asst keh faz aval (Phase 1) keh prestudy
> yek projeh asst ra bebandim. Mamoolan dar yeki az
> ravesh hayeh modiriat projeh in faz ha ra matrah
> mikonand :
>
> a. Prestuday  - Motaleh avalieh
> b. Feasibility  - prototype va tahghigh emkan
> dorosst kardam system
> c. Execution  - sakhtan system
> d. Closing      - beh payan ressandan projeh
>
> Dar SCHOOL Hayeh digar gorohbandi hayeh digar manand
> Introduction, planning va gheyreh sohbat mikonand
> vali be toor kol barayeh ma fargh nemikonad dar in
> jaryan.
>
> B. In doosstan zir lootf kardan barashoon Ayandeh
> khodeshan va keshvareshan va atrafianeshan mohem
> bood va nazarat khood ra dadand. Assami nessbat beh
> tarikh daryaft nazar asst:
>
> 1. Amin Mahmudian
> 2. Reza Modarres
> 3. Payman M.Jaberi
> 4. M. Karimi
> 5. Sohrab Asadzadeh
>
> C. Dar akss hamrah in nameh ya dar zir list tammam
> in nazarat ra keh royeh PostIT va takhteh
> chassbandim bedoon tartib mibinid.
>
> D. Dar linkhayeh zir [1] va [2] keh avali hameh
> akssha asst va 2 anha ra beh soorat slide show sari
> neshoon mideh, goroh bandi in nazarat va klasseh
> kardan anha ra mibinid. Albateh in yeki az emkanat
> tabagheh bandi asst, halat digar ham mishavad, vali
> in yeki az halat asst, keh hadaaf ma ra miressanad.
>
> D. Dar phase 2 bayad hala shoro be kar konim keh
> ghabl az ankeh barnameh televisioni shoro besheh
> system ra amadeh rah andazi dashteh bashim.
>
> Hal bayad goroh hayeh mokhtalef dorosst konim va
> system ra beh soorat Prototype dorosst konim va
> tamrin konim keh bebinim system ra mitoonim bessazim
> ya nah.
>
> Barayeh rahat tar kardan kar behtar asst team hayeh
> mokhtalef dorosst konim. Team hayi keh alan nessbat
> beh goroh hayi keh az nazarat dorosst shodeh beh
> nazar man miressad in asst, keh shoma lotfan nazar
> bedahid keh team digari aya ehtiaj asst ?
>
> 1. Team WEB va sakhtan system Web
>
> 2. Team Filmbardari va tahieh reportage
>
> 3. Team tahghighat barayeh peyda kardan
> motekhassessin va klasseh kardan anha
>
> 4. Team Editing vared beh massael graphic keh film
> hayeh gerefteh shodeh ra edit kardeh va amadeh
> pakhsh
>
> 5. Team IT keh system IT ra rah beyandazand barayeh
> vassl shodan shabakeh va rah andazi system hayi
> manand Netmeeting, IPhone, yahoo messenger etc keh
> ba doorbin va microfon besheh ertebat mosstaghim
> bargharar kard.
>
> 6. Team FTP keh mitavanad ghessmati az IT bashad keh
> film hayeh tahieh shodeh ra ftp kardeh ya DVD va
> post sefareshi barayeh pakhsh dar barnameh ayandeh
>
> 7. Team Barnameh nevissi Visual Basic ya Visual C++
> barayeh sakhtan barnameh hayeh mokhtalef manand
> Timer. Man yek Timer dar internet peyda kardam (akss
> ra hamrah in nameh bebinid az
> http://www.harmonyhollow.net/ keh khob asst va alarm
> mizanad vali badish in asst nazar Amin ra nemishe
> anjam dad keh 30 sanieh zoodtar zang zad choon 30
> sanieh ra bayad har dafeh doneh doneh behesh
> bedahid. Agar mishood type kard khoob bood, jayi
> soragh darid ?. Shayad bayad khodeman dorosst konim
> dar VB ya zabani digar.
>
> 8. Team bazar yabi keh ba massalan sherkathayeh
> telefoni sohbat konad barayeh daryaft karthayeh
> telefoni va sponsorship keh motekhassessin betoonand
> rahat zang bezanand va beh soalat javab dahand. Agar
> emkan in nabood keh team IT dar manzel ya mohal kar
> motekhassess emkan bargharari tamass az tarigh
> Internet ra bevojood beyavarand.
>
> 9. Team rooznameh negaran keh akhbar ra benevissand
> va soal va javab ha ra betoonand dar web site
> klasseh konand va negah dari barayeh ayandeh.
>
> Digeh bishtar teami felan beh nazaram nemiressad.
> Lootfan email zanid va begoyid agar team i kam asst
> va bayad beh list ezafeh shavad. Va garnah ba hamin
> team ha shoro konim keh list karhayi keh royeh
> takhteh darim dorosst konim.
>
> Barayeh har team shayad behtar bashad yek TEAM LEAD
> dashteh bashim keh hamahnagi konad keh az tarigh
> ghoreh keshi an fard ra entekhab mikonim baad
> ROTATION dashteh bashim keh avaz shavad va hamash
> yek nafar TEAM LEAD nabashad va afrad shanss emtehan
> kardan in massaleh ra dashteh bashand. Albateh in
> pishnehad asst agar nazar digari darid befarmayid.
>
> Banabarin lootf konid yek kar konid :
>
> 1. Agar khasstid yek email beh goroh bezanid va essm
> team digari keh ehtiaj asst bashad begoyid keh
> ezafeh shavad.
>
> 2. Beh email man faghat nah goroh (iranian_symbian
> AT yahoo DOT com) email bezanid va dar Subject
> benevissid che gorohi mikhayid faaliat konid,
> massalan :
>
> Subject : 8 - Team Bazar yabi
>
> Baad keh hameh afrad jam shood va TEAM LEAD ha ra
> entekhab kardim shoro mikonim. Agar Teami afrad
> nadasht ya kam avard shayad behtar bashad gorekeshi
> az team hayeh digar dar an team gozasht, ya agar
> shoma nazari darid keh che konim befarmayid.
>
> Khoob bish az in vaghtetan ra nemigiram, choon
> khodam ham khassteh shoodam doneh doneh in nazarat
> ra dar PostIT gozashtam, beram bekhabam ta royeh
> kamputer nayoftadam.
>
> Omidvaram shoma ham faal bashid va hameh javab
> bedahand keh sabet konim ma Irani ha mitoonim kar
> gorohi bekonim.
>
> Ba Tashakoor
> Rosso Salmanzadeh
>
>
>
> [1] All pictures:
>
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/iranian_symbian/lst?.dir=/TvProgram
>
> [2] Slideshow:
>
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/iranian_symbian/slideshow?&.dir=/TvProgram
>
>
>
>
> #1575;#1605;#1610;#1606; #1600;
>
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> #1589;#1608;#1585;#1578; #1587;#1608;#1575;#1604;
> #1580;#1608;#1575;#1576; #1608; #1576;#1575;
> #1603;#1605;#1603; #1711;#1610;#1585;#1610;
> #1575;#1586; #1608;#1576; #1575;#1580;#1585;#1575;
> #1588;#1608;#1583;#1572;
>
>
>
> #1575;#1605;#1610;#1606;
>
> #1583;#1593;#1608;#1578; #1575;#1586;
> #1605;#1578;#1582;#1589;#1589;#1610;#1606;
> #1575;#1610;#1585;#1575;#1606;#1610; #1608;
> #1582;#1575;#1585;#1580;#1610; #1583;#1585;
> #1576;#1585;#1606;#1575;#1605;#1607;
>
#1578;#1604;#1608;#1610;#1586;#1610;#1608;#1606;#1610;
>
>
>
>
> #1575;#1605;#1610;#1606; #1600;
>
> #1578;#1604;#1601;#1606;#1607;#1575;
> #1605;#1587;#1578;#1602;#1610;#1605;
> #1608;#1589;#1604; #1606;#1588;#1608;#1583;
> #1576;#1585;#1575;#1610;
> #1580;#1604;#1608;#1711;#1610;#1585;#1610;
> #1575;#1586; #1575;#1584;#1610;#1578;
> #1575;#1601;#1585;#1575;#1583;#1572;
>
>
>
> #1575;#1605;#1610;#1606; #1600;
>
> #1587;#1608;#1575;#1604;
> #1603;#1606;#1606;#1583;#1711;#1575;#1606;
> #1575;#1601;#1585;#1575;#1583;
> #1605;#1581;#1583;#1608;#1583; #1575;#1586;
> #1610;#1603; #1604;#1610;#1587;#1578;
> #1576;#1575;#1588;#1583; #1605;#1579;#1604;#1575;
> #1604;#1610;#1587;#1578; #1575;#1610;#1606;
> #1711;#1585;#1608;#1607; #1610;#1575;#1607;#1608;
>
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=====
Amin.M.M




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Salam bar hameh, makhsoosan Rosso jan,

khedmateh doostaneh azizam arz konam keh beh nazareh man barayeh
shoro kardan, behtar ast chand kar dar moghadameh soorat begirad:
1- yek database az aazayeh grouh dorost konim va takhassoseh khodeh
grouh ra bebinim dar chist.
2- bar assaseh data va alagheyeh har fard, grouhash ra moshakhas
konim.
3- beh ghoaleh doosteman tedadeh grouhha ra kam konim va baaziha ra
dar ham edgham nemaeem.beh nazareh man seh grouh kafist:
     A- yek grouh barayeh Web va kollan rah andazieh narmafzarha.
     B- grouheh sakhtafzari barayeh filmbardari va tahiyeh emkanateh
digar.
     C- grouheh amaliati barayeh jamavari ettelaat az motakhassesin
va daavat az anha va gheyra.
4- har grouh mitavanad barayeh karhayeh khod yek grouh kochektar dar
khodash dashteh bashad.
5- zamanbandieh karha va shoro kardaneh.
beh nazareh man, beh in tartib mitavan controleh bishtari rooyeh
karha dasht.

felan moredeh digari beh zehnam nemirasad.
Ba tashakor az hameh
Reza Modarres

--- In Iranian_Symbian@yahoogroups.com, Iranian Symbian
<iranian_symbian@y...> wrote:
> Salam,
>
> A. Vaght an asst keh faz aval (Phase 1) keh prestudy yek projeh
asst ra bebandim. Mamoolan dar yeki az ravesh hayeh modiriat projeh
in faz ha ra matrah mikonand :
>
> a. Prestuday  - Motaleh avalieh
> b. Feasibility  - prototype va tahghigh emkan dorosst kardam system
> c. Execution  - sakhtan system
> d. Closing      - beh payan ressandan projeh
>
> Dar SCHOOL Hayeh digar gorohbandi hayeh digar manand Introduction,
planning va gheyreh sohbat mikonand vali be toor kol barayeh ma
fargh nemikonad dar in jaryan.
>
> B. In doosstan zir lootf kardan barashoon Ayandeh khodeshan va
keshvareshan va atrafianeshan mohem bood va nazarat khood ra dadand.
Assami nessbat beh tarikh daryaft nazar asst:
>
> 1. Amin Mahmudian
> 2. Reza Modarres
> 3. Payman M.Jaberi
> 4. M. Karimi
> 5. Sohrab Asadzadeh
>
> C. Dar akss hamrah in nameh ya dar zir list tammam in nazarat ra
keh royeh PostIT va takhteh chassbandim bedoon tartib mibinid.
>
> D. Dar linkhayeh zir [1] va [2] keh avali hameh akssha asst va 2
anha ra beh soorat slide show sari neshoon mideh, goroh bandi in
nazarat va klasseh kardan anha ra mibinid. Albateh in yeki az
emkanat tabagheh bandi asst, halat digar ham mishavad, vali in yeki
az halat asst, keh hadaaf ma ra miressanad.
>
> D. Dar phase 2 bayad hala shoro be kar konim keh ghabl az ankeh
barnameh televisioni shoro besheh system ra amadeh rah andazi
dashteh bashim.
>
> Hal bayad goroh hayeh mokhtalef dorosst konim va system ra beh
soorat Prototype dorosst konim va tamrin konim keh bebinim system ra
mitoonim bessazim ya nah.
>
> Barayeh rahat tar kardan kar behtar asst team hayeh mokhtalef
dorosst konim. Team hayi keh alan nessbat beh goroh hayi keh az
nazarat dorosst shodeh beh nazar man miressad in asst, keh shoma
lotfan nazar bedahid keh team digari aya ehtiaj asst ?
>
> 1. Team WEB va sakhtan system Web
>
> 2. Team Filmbardari va tahieh reportage
>
> 3. Team tahghighat barayeh peyda kardan motekhassessin va klasseh
kardan anha
>
> 4. Team Editing vared beh massael graphic keh film hayeh gerefteh
shodeh ra edit kardeh va amadeh pakhsh
>
> 5. Team IT keh system IT ra rah beyandazand barayeh vassl shodan
shabakeh va rah andazi system hayi manand Netmeeting, IPhone, yahoo
messenger etc keh ba doorbin va microfon besheh ertebat mosstaghim
bargharar kard.
>
> 6. Team FTP keh mitavanad ghessmati az IT bashad keh film hayeh
tahieh shodeh ra ftp kardeh ya DVD va post sefareshi barayeh pakhsh
dar barnameh ayandeh
>
> 7. Team Barnameh nevissi Visual Basic ya Visual C++ barayeh
sakhtan barnameh hayeh mokhtalef manand Timer. Man yek Timer dar
internet peyda kardam (akss ra hamrah in nameh bebinid az
http://www.harmonyhollow.net/ keh khob asst va alarm mizanad vali
badish in asst nazar Amin ra nemishe anjam dad keh 30 sanieh zoodtar
zang zad choon 30 sanieh ra bayad har dafeh doneh doneh behesh
bedahid. Agar mishood type kard khoob bood, jayi soragh darid ?.
Shayad bayad khodeman dorosst konim dar VB ya zabani digar.
>
> 8. Team bazar yabi keh ba massalan sherkathayeh telefoni sohbat
konad barayeh daryaft karthayeh telefoni va sponsorship keh
motekhassessin betoonand rahat zang bezanand va beh soalat javab
dahand. Agar emkan in nabood keh team IT dar manzel ya mohal kar
motekhassess emkan bargharari tamass az tarigh Internet ra bevojood
beyavarand.
>
> 9. Team rooznameh negaran keh akhbar ra benevissand va soal va
javab ha ra betoonand dar web site klasseh konand va negah dari
barayeh ayandeh.
>
> Digeh bishtar teami felan beh nazaram nemiressad. Lootfan email
zanid va begoyid agar team i kam asst va bayad beh list ezafeh
shavad. Va garnah ba hamin team ha shoro konim keh list karhayi keh
royeh takhteh darim dorosst konim.
>
> Barayeh har team shayad behtar bashad yek TEAM LEAD dashteh bashim
keh hamahnagi konad keh az tarigh ghoreh keshi an fard ra entekhab
mikonim baad ROTATION dashteh bashim keh avaz shavad va hamash yek
nafar TEAM LEAD nabashad va afrad shanss emtehan kardan in massaleh
ra dashteh bashand. Albateh in pishnehad asst agar nazar digari
darid befarmayid.
>
> Banabarin lootf konid yek kar konid :
>
> 1. Agar khasstid yek email beh goroh bezanid va essm team digari
keh ehtiaj asst bashad begoyid keh ezafeh shavad.
>
> 2. Beh email man faghat nah goroh (iranian_symbian AT yahoo DOT
com) email bezanid va dar Subject benevissid che gorohi mikhayid
faaliat konid, massalan :
>
> Subject : 8 - Team Bazar yabi
>
> Baad keh hameh afrad jam shood va TEAM LEAD ha ra entekhab kardim
shoro mikonim. Agar Teami afrad nadasht ya kam avard shayad behtar
bashad gorekeshi az team hayeh digar dar an team gozasht, ya agar
shoma nazari darid keh che konim befarmayid.
>
> Khoob bish az in vaghtetan ra nemigiram, choon khodam ham khassteh
shoodam doneh doneh in nazarat ra dar PostIT gozashtam, beram
bekhabam ta royeh kamputer nayoftadam.
>
> Omidvaram shoma ham faal bashid va hameh javab bedahand keh sabet
konim ma Irani ha mitoonim kar gorohi bekonim.
>
> Ba Tashakoor
> Rosso Salmanzadeh
>
>
>
> [1] All pictures:
>
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/iranian_symbian/lst?.dir=/TvProg
ram
>
> [2] Slideshow:
> http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/iranian_symbian/slideshow?
&.dir=/TvProgram
>
>
>
>
> #1575;#1605;#1610;#1606; #1600;
>
> #1576;#1585;#1606;#1575;#1605;#1607; #1576;#1607;
#1589;#1608;#1585;#1578; #1587;#1608;#1575;#1604;
#1580;#1608;#1575;#1576; #1608; #1576;#1575; #1603;#1605;#1603;
#1711;#1610;#1585;#1610; #1575;#1586; #1608;#1576;
#1575;#1580;#1585;#1575; #1588;#1608;#1583;#1572;
>
>
>
> #1575;#1605;#1610;#1606;
>
> #1583;#1593;#1608;#1578; #1575;#1586;
#1605;#1578;#1582;#1589;#1589;#1610;#1606;
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#1576;#1585;#1606;#1575;#1605;#1607;
#1578;#1604;#1608;#1610;#1586;#1610;#1608;#1606;#1610;
>
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>
> #1575;#1605;#1610;#1606; #1600;
>
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#1605;#1587;#1578;#1602;#1610;#1605; #1608;#1589;#1604;
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#1575;#1584;#1610;#1578; #1575;#1601;#1585;#1575;#1583;#1572;
>
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#1610;#1575;#1607;#1608;
>
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#1578;#1575;#1610;#1605;#1585;
>
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#1586;#1606;#1711; #1605;#1610;#1586;#1606;#1606;#1583; #1581;#1602;
#1583;#1575;#1583;#1606; #1575;#1582;#1576;#1575;#1585;
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#1587;#1608;#1575;#1604;#1575;#1578; #1583;#1585; #1570;#1606;
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#1603;#1605;#1603; #1603;#1585;#1583;#1607; #1575;#1606;#1583;
#1575;#1585;#1580;#1593;#1610;#1578; #1576;#1585;#1575;#1610;
#1605;#1591;#1585;#1581; #1603;#1585;#1583;#1606;
#1587;#1608;#1575;#1604; #1583;#1575;#1585;#1606;#1583;#1572;
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#1578;#1610;#1605;#1607;#1575;#1610;
#1585;#1662;#1608;#1585;#1578;#1575;#1688; #1608;
#1601;#1610;#1604;#1605;#1576;#1585;#1583;#1575;#1585;#1610;
#1583;#1585; #1575;#1610;#1585;#1575;#1606; #1576;#1585;#1575;#1610;
#1578;#1605;#1575;#1587; #1608; #1578;#1607;#1610;#1607;
#1585;#1662;#1608;#1585;#1578;#1575;#1688; #1575;#1586;
#1588;#1585;#1603;#1578;#1607;#1575; #1608;
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#1580;#1605;#1593; #1587;#1608;#1575;#1604;
#1580;#1608;#1575;#1576;#1575;#1578; #1583;#1585; #1610;#1603;
#1608;#1576; #1576;#1585;#1575;#1610;
#1575;#1587;#1578;#1601;#1575;#1583;#1607;
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#1580;#1604;#1608;#1711;#1610;#1585;#1610; #1575;#1586;
#1587;#1608;#1575;#1604;#1575;#1578;
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#1582;#1608;#1583;#1588;#1575;#1606; #1575;#1593;#1604;#1575;#1605;
#1605;#1610;#1603;#1606;#1606;#1583; #1603;#1607; #1610;#1603;
#1583;#1608; #1610;#1575; #1587;#1607;
#1583;#1602;#1610;#1602;#1607; #1589;#1581;#1576;#1578;
#1605;#1610;#1603;#1606;#1606;#1583;
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#1588;#1583;#1607; #1583;#1585;
#1578;#1604;#1608;#1610;#1586;#1610;#1608;#1606;
#1605;#1585;#1576;#1608;#1591; #1576;#1607;
#1587;#1610;#1587;#1578;#1605;#1607;#1575;#1610;#1610; #1603;#1607;
#1605;#1575; #1583;#1585; #1575;#1610;#1585;#1575;#1606;
#1583;#1575;#1585;#1610;#1605; #1606;#1610;#1586;
#1576;#1575;#1588;#1583; #1601;#1602;#1591;
#1587;#1610;#1587;#1578;#1605; #1607;#1575;#1610;
#1582;#1575;#1585;#1580; #1575;#1586; #1603;#1588;#1608;#1585;
#1606;#1576;#1575;#1588;#1583;
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#1582;#1608;#1576; #1575;#1587;#1578; #1608;#1604;#1610;
#1578;#1605;#1585;#1603;#1586; #1576;#1575;#1610;#1583;
#1585;#1608;#1610; #1608;#1576; #1576;#1575;#1588;#1583;#1572;
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#1576;#1585;#1575;#1610; #1603;#1605;#1603; #1576;#1607;
#1578;#1604;#1608;#1610;#1586;#1610;#1608;#1606;
#1607;#1606;#1711;#1575;#1605; #1605;#1591;#1585;#1581;
#1603;#1585;#1583;#1606; #1587;#1608;#1575;#1604;
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> Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@y...> wrote:
>
> Ba salam,
>
> Dirooz dashtam fekr mikardam keh agar ITC baz beshe shayad
betoonim ba Khosrow sohbat konim shanbeh ha massalan mahi yek bar ya
dohafteh i yekbar, ya agar REMOTE va az rah door ba WEB/INTERNET
beshe hafteh i yek bar yek barnameh i dar mored Telefon ha Symbian
va az in harfha chand saati dashteh bashim beh soorat Talk Show.
>
> Bayad harf zadan bashad keh khassteh konandeh nabashad. Dar zemn
amoozeshi keh hamegi yek chizi az hamdigar yad begirim, keh bayad
afrad betoonand zang bezanand va nazarateshoon va khabar jadid
begoyand va gheyreh.
>
> Hala nazar shooma chisst ?
>
> 1. Beh nezar shoma ingooneh barnameh ha chegooneh bayad bashad keh
poor binandeh bashad va tarafdar dashteh bashad ?
>
> 2. Afrad chand daghigheh bayad betoonand sohbat konand ? Massalan
shayad khoob bashad messl yek projeh adam ejrah konad, yek Timer va
saat vaght gir bozorg begozarad joloyeh Television baad har nafar 2
daghigeh. Beh mojaredi keh 2 daghigeh tammom shood adam telefon ra
ghat konad, mikhahad harf taraf tamoom shodeh ya nashodeh. Ya
begozarad taraf harfash tamam besheh, choon dar farhang ma in bi
adabi asst vassat harf kassi ghat koni ? Agar sari 2 daghigeh ghat
konad afrad yad migirand keh DEADLINE yek projeh ra raayat konand va
beh mogheh PRODUCT ra tahvil bedahand. Ya sar gharar beh moghe
beravand keh khood in dar yek projeh sanaati kheyli mohem asst va
injoori tamrin vaght negah dari mikonim.
>
> Dar in soorat 2 daghigeh ya 1 daghigeh ya 3 daghigeh ? Mishe az
har kass porssid vaghti zang mizanad, keh chand daghigeh 1, 2, 3
baad bayad taraf betooneh dar oon modat tammoom konad. Yani taraf
bayad aval beravad joloyeh Ayneh tamrin konad keh dar hamoon moodat
sohbat konad va vaght begirad baad zang bezanad.
>
> 3. Che kassani mitavanand zang bezanand ? Har kass khasst ? Ya
afradi keh massalan dar yek link web site REGISTER kardeh and va yek
Code darand ? Agar register bashad yek kam jaryan Mohayej tar
mishavad, afrad mitonnand beravand ghablesh bey yek web site
register konand baad etelaat va jomelati keh mikhahand benevissand
va linkhayi etelaati mikhahand begozarand vali INACTIVE asst va faal
nisst. Baad keh zang zadand CODE makhssoos khood ra midahand mojri
barnameh neveshteh an taraf ra ACTIVE mikonad mosstaghim online dar
DATABASE keh digaran mitavanand ham zaman ba barnameh beravand
neveshteh hayeh taraf ra bekhoonand (messl weblog). Baad dar oon
modat mitooneh kholasseh oon neveshteh ha ra dar Television begoyad,
keh mitooneh khabar tekniki rooz ya khabar mah bashad. Bayad in
system ra ba WEB va DATABASE design konim keh mitoonim baadan beh
soorat kar gorohi dorosst konim va yek ja begozarim. Keh ehemalan
baadan yek gorohi dorosst mikonim az alagheh mandan va ba ham
dorosst mikonim.
>  Har kodoom az ma mitavanad tammam system ra 5 daghigeh i dorosst
konad vali hadaf in asst kar gorohi konim va ba ham FUN dashteh
bashim, yani har kass ghessmat kochaki ra dorosst khahad kard keh
bishtar kar gorohi yad begirim.
>
> 4. Taraf keh zang mizanand hagh tabligh darad massalan
begoyad "areh man shenidam keh felan foroshgah felan dasstgah ra
miforoshad". Shayad OK asst injoori sherkatha va foroshghah ha ham
tashvigh mishavand keh barnameh ra donbal konand.
>
> 5. Chegooneh joloyeh fohsh mohsh va aziat kardan ha ra mishe
gereft ? Mishe adam azad begozarad afrad zang bezanand va fohsh
bedahand baad az modati khassteh mishavand va beh SATURATION
(eshbah) va MATURATION (pokhtegi) miressand digar in kar ra
nemikonand ? Agar dasstgah DELAY begozari shayad control system ra
kheyli COMPLEX mikoni va baadan bekhayim az rah door va WEB Based
kar konim moshkel beshe. Agar begozari fohsh dahand baadan momken
asst afrad zang bezanand begoyand ma inja khanoom o bacheh ha pay
television neshasstand shoma chera in fohsh ha ra ghat nemikonid.
Rah hal chisst ?
>
> 6. Soal o javab tekniki chi ? faghat mishe tekniki harf zad ya
soal va javab ham mishe ? Chegoneh mishe system i dorosst kard keh
afrad keh motekhassessand zang bezanand beh afradi keh soal darand
javab bedahand. Baaz bayad system Internet va WEB va Web Cam va
shayad Netmeeting va aya system digari mishenassid ? bekar boord.
Yani afrad az ghabl soalateshan ra dar WEB Register kardeh bashand
keh motekhassessin ham Register kardeh and va in hafteh in soal ha
ra in motekhassess javab mideh, hafteh digar fardi digar va gheyreh.
>
> Kholasseh inha felan nazarat va afkari bood keh beh nazar man
amad. Nazar va fekr shoma chisst ? Mitoonim inja yek Brain Storming
(rikhtan aghayed va maghzha royeh ham) bekonim keh avalin ghadam yek
projeh asst. Agar gharar bood system i (Web) bessazim ba ham digeh
ba UML va USE CASE DIAGRAM va ossoli pish mirim va missazim.
>
> Hala felan bebinim nazar afrad chieh va betoor kol che karhayeh
jalebi mishe ba Television kard beh nazar shooma ?
>
> Ba tashakoor
> Rosso Salmanzadeh
>
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salam be hame,

man daneshjoo hastam va hanooz projeh rasmi baray jayi
nadashtam, vali harfay BOOS bram kheyli jaleb bood
chand ta nokte be nazaram resid :
dar mored kelas va daneshgah goftid,man alan ke vagt
emtehan hast fekr mikonam mibinam agar in ravesh ro
ejra mikardam kheyli baram khob bood,vali agar man ye
rozi ostade ye jayi shodam hatman in ravesho entekhab
mikonam,ham baray khodam rahattare ham baray daneshjo
ha,masalan ma vasat term yek dafe ostad miad mige
hafte dige ya do hafte dige emtehane,hala ma onrooz
emtehan dashte bashim ya harchi.

ye rooz chand sale pish ke aghay Khatami reis
jomhoor,rafte bood USA baray sokhanrani dar UN,ke
hamoon vaght baray IRANi ha dar USA ham sokhanrani
dasht,goft mohajerat yeki az rahhay goftegoy
tamadonhast, man ba khodam goftam baray ma ke dakhel
hastm chetoor mitone mofid bashe,behar hal goftegoo do
tarafe ast,ba in sohbat hay agay Rosso hala
mifahmam,man fekr mikonam ma be onvam gheshr tahsil
karde bayad baray pishraft keshvaremoon bishtar va
behtar kar konim,chon be har hal ma az sarmaie hay in
keshvar be inja residim va masoliat darim,man yek
shoar baray khodam daram ke hamishe behesh amal
mikonam ke : AGE AZ CHIZI NARAHATI GHOR NAZAN AVAZAESH
KON.shayad kheyli chiza ro nashe alan avaz kard,vali
mesl parvaz mimone,alan age dar mored behtarin
havapeyma ha ham bekhan sohbat konand aval filme onai
ro neshon midan ke ba bali ke ba par dorost karde mi
khast bepare.ma ye ostad dashtim baray yeki az
darsamoon dar bare vejdan mohandesi sohbat mikard mesl
hamin vaght shenasi,khodesh migoft ye projeh gereftam
ta tarikh 2 hafte dige hanooz shoro nakardam.manzoram
ine ke age chizi garare avaz beshe khodemoon bayad
avazesh konim hala shayad 30-40 sal tool bekeshe vali
sale 1410 masalan dige in moshke vojod nadare.
merci,mibakhshid ziad neveshtam
Amin Mahmudian

--- Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@...> wrote:

> Ba Salam,
>
> Ba Hamid yeki az dosstan faal aziz, mozoh vaght
> shenassi va daghigh boodan dar massael roozaneh dar
> email mored bahss bood.
>
> Ba Sohrab aziz yeki digar az dosstan aziz dar in
> goroh dar mored beh mogheh tahvil dadan projeh dar
> yek email mored bahss bood keh ishan migoftand keh
> dar chand projeh keh barayeh yek sherkati dar kharej
> az Iran anjam dadand tajroobeh khobi nadashtand va
> jaryan beh daghighe 90 va penalty keshideh shood.
>
> Gooftam shayad behtar bashad bahss ra beh goroh va
> omomi bekeshim bebinim tajroobeh digar dosstan chi
> boodeh ? Aya shoma halati ra soragh darid dar Iran
> ya kharej Iran keh projeh beh mogheh va tarikhi keh
> gofteh shoodeh anjam shoodeh ? Agar areh, dalayel
> moafaghiat an beh nazar shooam chi boodeh ? Agar
> nah, dalayel shekasst ? Beh nazar shooma chekar
> bayad kard keh yek projeh dar har farhangi beh
> mogheh tahvil dadeh shavad ? Mitonid dar inja
> nazaretan ra begoyid ya khaterat khoob ya bad dar in
> mored ra benevissid.
>
> Ghabl az shoma agar man az tajaroob khodam begoyam,
> tajaroobi keh daram dar projeh hayeh mokhtalef dar
> keshvar hayeh mokhtalef va ba farhang hayeh
> mokhtalef boodeh. Fekr mikonam in tanha ma Irani ha
> nisstim ba zaman moshkel darim, hamangooneh keh
> goftam bisthar afradi keh az Khavar mianeh va
> manategh atraf didam moshkel darand. Baad dar Oropa
> harchi payin tar va jonob tar miravid in moshkel
> bishtar mishavad. Massalan jonoob Europa keshvarhayi
> messl Italia, Espania, Portugal, Jonob fransseh,
> farhangi messl khodeman keh hala bebinim chi mishe
> ziad mibinid. Kheyli shahrhayeh Espania keh mibinid
> manand baazi az shahrhayeh khodeman zohr ha kareshan
> ra tark mikonand miravand nahar mikhorand va
> mikhaband (SIESTA) va 3, 4 dobareh miayand. Albateh
> shayad in beh elaat garm boodan hava dar in keshvar
> ha asst. Dar avaz shabha mibinid edareh momken asst
> ta 6, 7 baz bashad va foroshghaha ta 12 shab manand
> Bombay dar hend keh hava garm asst va jonb o joosh
> khood ra darad.
>
> Dar avaz dar shomal Oropa dar keshvar hayi messl
> Alman, baad keshvarhayeh Eskandinavy manand Danmark,
> Soed, Finland, Norwej (Norway) har chi bala tar miri
> hava sardtar va monazami bishtar. Agar gharar bashad
> saat 5:00 dar Bank ya foroshgah bassteh shavad haman
> saat darb bassteh mishavad. Hala shoma harcheh
> mikhayid royeh shishe bezanid keh agha, khanoom toro
> khooda darb ra baz kon man faghat migkham felan chiz
> ra sari bekharam beram. Gheyr momken asst dar ra baz
> konand. Kheyli royeh shishe bezanid momken asst
> polis beyayad va shomara bebarad.
>
> Choon onha oon saat bayad darb ra bebandand, va baad
> ghabz hara hessab konand va hessab rooz ra bebandand
> va massalan otoboss saat 5:37 ra begirad beravad
> khanash. Agar shoma 3 daghigeh moatelash konid
> otoboss 5:37 daghigeh ra az dasst midahad.
>
> Albateh doosti beh shokhi migoft in kehsvarhayeh
> shomal oropa, barayeh in inghdar moratab shodand va
> sar gharareshan daghigh 8:10 massalan miayand choon
> otoboss hashoon agar dar jadval zamanbandi neveshteh
> sobh saat 8:17 miayad baadi 8:23 baadi 8:37 va
> gheyreh, agar nayayad taraf zemesstoon az sarma
> oonja khoshkash mizanad va mimirad. Beh har hal har
> dalili darad kheyli moratab va vaght shenass
> hasstand va hamin massaleh ra shoma dar projeh ha
> mibinid massalan projeh hayeh sherkat hayi manannd
> Ericsson, Sony Ericsson va Nokia. Banbarin bayad
> havassetan bashad projeh i ba in sherkat ha dar
> ayandeh dashtid vaght shenassi barashoon kheyli
> mohem asst, va agar kehsvar hayeh digar oropayi va
> amrikayi ra dideh id inha digar 10 barabar anha
> hasstand va in ra khoob asst dar zehnetan dashteh
> bashid vaghti projeh ha ra anjam midahid.
>
> Ma avayel keh Soed daneshgah ya kelass hayeh digar
> miraftim, mididim rooz aval moalem ya osstad miayad
> AGENDA va list tammam karha dar tool sal ra midahad
> va migoyand che roozi che saati emtehan ha asst.
> Baad bacheh hayeh soedi shoro mikonand taghvim hayeh
> makhsoos az kif va jibeshan dar avardand va tarikha
> ra nevesthan va bahss shoro mishe keh osstad mishe
> massalan felan test ra felan rooz beh 2 rooz baad
> montaghel konid choon midoonid oon rooz ghablesh
> tatil asst va felan etefagh mioftad, bacheh hayeh
> goroh ham felan barnameh ra darand va gheyreh.
> Kholasseh hameh movafeghat mikardand va tarikh avaz
> mishood.
>
> Ya dar kelass hayeh khodemooni kochak tar mididi
> felani migoft man dar oon hafteh (6 mah digar)
> massooliat bache ha ra beh ohdeh daram va felan
> massaleh saat 4:30 bayad beram agar kassi mokhalef
> nisst in jaryan ra beh saat 3:45 enteghal dahim,
> hameh negah mikardand beh taghvimashoon va migoftand
> barayeh man OK asst kholasseh in vaghtha hamoon rooz
> aval tanzim mishood.
>
> Ma ham haj o baj oon vassat ba farhang Irani, 30
> daghigeh keh hichi, 4, 5 saat keh hichi, emtehan ham
> keh gharar dashtim hamoon shab akhar yek karish
> bekonim keh. Inha chi migoyand ? Az koja midoonand 6
> mah digar che khabar asst. Kholasseh baadan mididim
> eh rasst goftand chand rooz ghabl az emtehan hamoon
> jaryani keh oonha migoftand va oon tatilat felan
> moshkel ra bevojood miavarad va kholasseh ta etefagh
> nemiotfad nemifahmidim.
>
> Albateh baad az chand sal didim khodemoon ham messl
> oonha shoodim, az 3 mah ghabl emtehanat ra tanzim
> kardeh va beh khondan mashghool. Mayi keh toyeh Iran
> hamoon shab akhar maximum hafteh akhar kheyli
> mikhondim. Albateh dar oon reshteh keh ma mikhandim
> dar Soed nemidoonam jaryan ba daneshghah hayeh digar
> keh khondeh boodam kheyli fargh mikard va kheyli
> sakht bood va 5 ta darss ba ham mibayesst khond keh
> bedoon in barnameh rizi va tanzim vaght asslan
> nemishood pish raft va vahedi gozaroond. Va mamoolan
> bishtar karmandan va mohandessin Ericsson Soed,
> makhssoosan dar sath modiriat projeh ha messl inkeh
> maghaleh i nevestheh bood az oon daneshghah biroon
> miayand. Vali betoor kool mishe in moratabi ra dar
> sath keshvar dar in keshvar hayeh Scandinaviayi
> messl Soed (Ericsson) va Finland (Nokia) did.
>
> Tazeh Finlandi ha gheyr az in monazami dar vaght az
> Soedi ha poor kar tar hasstand va kheyli kar
> mikonand. Dar zemn yek khassiati keh in keshvar ha
> darand keh shoma dar sherkat hashoon ham mibinid
> TRUST va etemaad ziad beh bala dassteshan va
> hokoomat va gheyreh darand va khodeshan ra dar hameh
> massael sharik midanand. Bar akss massalan Italiayi
> ha keh migoyand massalan hokoomat va oon bala
> CORRUPTED va fassed asst va dasst Mafia asst pass
> man chera dorosst kar konam ? Har ja mishe yek joori
> az kar momken asst bezanand va taghaloob konand.
> Massalan migoyand bishtar sherkat ha dar Italia 2 ta
> daftar hessabdari akhar sal darand yeki oon keh beh
> doolat midahand va daramad ra kam neshoon midahand
> yeki ankeh barayeh khodeshan negah midarand.
>
> In massaleh TRUST dar yek projeh kheyli mohem asst
> va inkeh afrad INVOLVED (khod ra jozi az projeh
> danesstand) bashand. Beh onvan messal man dooreh
> daneshjooyi jayi dar soed kar mikardam keh afrad
> ziad az melliat haye mokhtalef donya bood. Az khavar
> mianeh, asia, afrighayeh shomali (marakesh, tuness
> va gheyreh). Mididi khareji ha say mikonand az zir
> kar dar beravand ya beh har sorat yek kalaki toyeh
> kar bezanand. Ya massalan agar raiss nabood sari 1
> saat zood tar beravand khooneh. Az yek Soedi yek bar
> didam baghieh darand miravand oon hamintoor kar
> mikonad gooftam to nemiri ? Goft man keh hanooz 8
> saat karam ra anjam nadadeh am nemitonam beravam.
> Man barayeh 8 saat dar rooz hoghogh migiram bayad 8
> saat kar konam. Maroo migi pish khodam goftam ajab
> afradi inha hasstand, bikhood nisst ba in jamiat 9
> millionishoon inghadar pishraft kardeh and va in
> hameh teknology pishrafteh az jomleh ABB, Ericsson,
> SAAB, VOLVO va gheyreh darand. Kashki ma Irani ha
> ham yek zamani inghadar daghigh va
>  moratab mishoodim.
>
> Albateh adam bayad vagheh bin bashad man fekr
> nemikonam ma hichvaght dar Iran messl in keshvar
> hayeh scandinavia daghigh va moratab shavim va
> etemaad beh bala dassti keh hatman ehtiaj nabashad
> kassi bala sareman bashad ta kari ra anjam dahim.
> Choon in khassiat ra dar keshvar hayeh digar ham
> nemibinid. Messl Franssavi ha Italiayi ha keh tazeh
> dar Oropa hasstand tazeh che beresseh beh digar
> keshvarhayeh Asia va Amrikayeh shomali ya jonobi.
>
> Dar projeh ha inja dar Amrika etefagh hayeh jalebi
> mioftad zamani sherkathayi manand Ericsson ya Nokia
> miayand inja va karmandashan afrad mokhtalef az
> keshvar hayeh mokhtalef asst, choon dar Amrika afrad
> az hameh keshvarhayeh donya dar Engineering
> hasstand, az Asia gerefteh ta oropa va amrikayeh
> shomali va amrikhayi jonobo. Har koodam farhanghayeh
> khodeshan va tarif khood barayeh zaman. Modiriat in
> gooneh projeh ha kheyli sakht asst va shoma
> chizhayeh ziadi yad migirid. Ehtemalan yek projeh
> dar Iran ya yek projeh dar Soed sadeh tar asst
> randan choon bishtar afrad yek farhang darand va
> shoma midanid ba oon farhang chegooneh barkhord
> konid vali yek projeh keh chand farhangi asst kheyli
> sakht va dar zemn jaleb asst dar CONFLICT
> (ekhtelafat) va MISSUNDERSTANDING (dorosst
> nafahmidan manzoor yek digar).
>
> Choon ma enssan ha mamoolan fekr mikonim keh taraf
> moghabeleman haman bardashti az kalameh i keh ma
> bekar mibirim darad keh khodeman darim. Vali az koja
> midanim
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azizan salam,
man chand roz ON naboodam,hala ke mail hay REIS BOZORG
ro khondam chand nokte be zehnam resid :
  1>soal: aya tarikh daghighi az shoro barname
darim,agar na hododi chetor? ceghadr vaght darim?

Mamoolan hamanjoor keh midani yeki az khavass mohem va tarif yek projeh TIME (Zaman) asst. Asslan bazi projeh ra taarif mikonand anjam kari keh RUTIN (hamishe anjam midahid mannand noon kharidan har rooz) nisst va moodat zaman va BUDGET (boodjeh) moshakass darad. Massalan shoma agar mikhayid yek otagh royeh khone tan bessazid in yek projeh asst.

Banabarin dar har projeh bayad yek zaman moshakhass va DELIVERY chizi keh tahvil bayad dadeh shavad moshakhass bashad. Keh mamoolan yek PROJECT PLAN aval minevissid va moshakhass mikonid keh DELIVERY va khoroji an chisst.

Mamoolan hamantoor keh midanid migoyand keh yek projeh darayeh 3 khassiat asst TIME (Zaman), COST (Kharj), QUALITY(Keyfiat) asst. In 3 faktor 3 zel yek mossalass hasstand. Agar yeki ra dasst bezanid digari dasst mikhorad va AFFECTED mishavad. Massalan yek projeh keh shoma gharar asst dar 6 mah anjam dahaid ba 10 nafar, hala agar shoma mikhayid an projeh ra dar 3 mah anjam dahid yani TIME ra kam konid ya keyfiat (QUALITY) bad mishavad ya bayad massalan 10 nafar digar ezafeh konid (keh kharj miravad bala).

Hala ma agar TIME va zaman moshakass nadashteh bashim, mishavad messl oon projeh hayeh sakhtemani ghadimha dar Iran dar har koche i hamssayeh i kassi dasht (nemidonam alan ham hasst) keh massalan mikhasstand khoneh shan ra dorosst konand ya tabaghe i bala dorosst konand mididi chand mah ya sal tir ahan va ajoor ha ra dar koche mirikhtand va rah mashin ra band miavardand va in sakhteman hichvaght tammam nemishood, kassi ham joraat nadasht begoyad keh ba in tir ahan ha va ajoor ha shoma ra ra band avardeh id :-)

Kholasseh ma ham bayad yek zaman barayeh DELIVERY dashteh bashim. Dar bazi projeh ha migoyand keh agha DEADLINE (zaman tahvil projeh) payin berid bala berid avaz nabayad beshavad. Agar natoonesstid beh mogheh tahvil bedahid bayad zoodtar elam konid va ehtemalan STEERING COMMITTEE (goroh rah bari) tassmim migirand agar 10 ta FUNCITONALITY bayad dashteh bashad 3 ta ya 4 ta az an ra bar midarand keh baghieh amadeh shavad. In etefagh dar projeh hayeh TELECOM va mokhaberati va telefon ziad etefagh mioftad. Choon in sherkathayeh telefon bishtarin forosheshan ra hengam CHRISTMAS darand keh afrad messl Eyd khodeman barayeh yek digar kadoo mikharand va mamoolan telefon ziad kharideh mishavad choon afrad hoghogh eydishoon ra gerefteh and va gheyreh. Banabarin telefon ha bayad taraf hayeh OCTOBER/NOVEMBER amadeh bashand keh dar DECEMBER forosh ravand. Pass tarfhayeh Augest/SEPTEMBER bayad testing tammam shavad pass CODE bayad taraf hayeh JAN/FEB tammas shodeh bashad keh MARCH ta JULY Field testing va akharin test va taghirat dar network assli anjam shavad. Banbarin shooma nemitoonid kodetan ra dir tahvil dahid choon hameh ra aghab khahid andakht.

Dar baazi projeh hayeh digar mibinid keh agar beh mogheh nashavad tahvil dad az ghabl sohbat mikonand va chand hafteh ya mah POSTPOND aghab miandazand. Mamoolan tedad ERROR, DOCUMENT ha amadeh CODE INSPECTION anjam shodeh va gheyreh ra negah mikonand va tassmim migirand keh CODE COMPLETE va PROJECT EXIT elam shavad ya nah.

Hala dar sharayat ma bayad bebinim baro bache ha cheghadar vaght ehtiaj darand keh avalin WORKING SYSTEM ra rah beyandazand. Keh mitoonad yek PROTOTYPE bashad keh yek Film gerefteh shodeh bashad dar FTP gozashteh shoodeh va ghabel enteghal, keh MECHANISM maloom shodeh bahad. WEB page dorosst shodeh bashad va soal afrad chegoneh dar WEB gozashteh shoodeh, ACTIVE Shodeh va gheyreh hameh ba chand ta soali emtehani bayad kar konad.

Yek DEADLINE keh mitoonim begozarim 1 Feb keh dar site ITC gofteh shodeh ITC baz mishavad. Ya inkeh begozarim akhar Feb yani 1 March keh afrad vaght dashteh bashand. Begoyid 1 FEB behtar asst ya 1 March ?

  2>soal: dar mored nazarat aya bayad dar goroh ha
bahs kard ya bad az  sort kardan nazarat hame baham
raje be onha sohbat mikonim ?

 

ghorban hame,
Amin Mahmudian (kardani computer term 3 <shaiad
mikhastid bedonid>);
--- Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@...> wrote:

> Salam,
> 
> A. Vaght an asst keh faz aval (Phase 1) keh prestudy
> yek projeh asst ra bebandim. Mamoolan dar yeki az
> ravesh hayeh modiriat projeh in faz ha ra matrah
> mikonand :
> 
> a. Prestuday  - Motaleh avalieh
> b. Feasibility  - prototype va tahghigh emkan
> dorosst kardam system
> c. Execution  - sakhtan system
> d. Closing      - beh payan ressandan projeh
> 
> Dar SCHOOL Hayeh digar gorohbandi hayeh digar manand
> Introduction, planning va gheyreh sohbat mikonand
> vali be toor kol barayeh ma fargh nemikonad dar in
> jaryan.
> 
> B. In doosstan zir lootf kardan barashoon Ayandeh
> khodeshan va keshvareshan va atrafianeshan mohem
> bood va nazarat khood ra dadand. Assami nessbat beh
> tarikh daryaft nazar asst:
> 
> 1. Amin Mahmudian
> 2. Reza Modarres
> 3. Payman M.Jaberi
> 4. M. Karimi
> 5. Sohrab Asadzadeh
> 
> C. Dar akss hamrah in nameh ya dar zir list tammam
> in nazarat ra keh royeh PostIT va takhteh
> chassbandim bedoon tartib mibinid.
> 
> D. Dar linkhayeh zir [1] va [2] keh avali hameh
> akssha asst va 2 anha ra beh soorat slide show sari
> neshoon mideh, goroh bandi in nazarat va klasseh
> kardan anha ra mibinid. Albateh in yeki az emkanat
> tabagheh bandi asst, halat digar ham mishavad, vali
> in yeki az halat asst, keh hadaaf ma ra miressanad.
> 
> D. Dar phase 2 bayad hala shoro be kar konim keh
> ghabl az ankeh barnameh televisioni shoro besheh
> system ra amadeh rah andazi dashteh bashim.
> 
> Hal bayad goroh hayeh mokhtalef dorosst konim va
> system ra beh soorat Prototype dorosst konim va
> tamrin konim keh bebinim system ra mitoonim bessazim
> ya nah.
> 
> Barayeh rahat tar kardan kar behtar asst team hayeh
> mokhtalef dorosst konim. Team hayi keh alan nessbat
> beh goroh hayi keh az nazarat dorosst shodeh beh
> nazar man miressad in asst, keh shoma lotfan nazar
> bedahid keh team digari aya ehtiaj asst ?
> 
> 1. Team WEB va sakhtan system Web
> 
> 2. Team Filmbardari va tahieh reportage
> 
> 3. Team tahghighat barayeh peyda kardan
> motekhassessin va klasseh kardan anha
> 
> 4. Team Editing vared beh massael graphic keh film
> hayeh gerefteh shodeh ra edit kardeh va amadeh
> pakhsh
> 
> 5. Team IT keh system IT ra rah beyandazand barayeh
> vassl shodan shabakeh va rah andazi system hayi
> manand Netmeeting, IPhone, yahoo messenger etc keh
> ba doorbin va microfon besheh ertebat mosstaghim
> bargharar kard.
> 
> 6. Team FTP keh mitavanad ghessmati az IT bashad keh
> film hayeh tahieh shodeh ra ftp kardeh ya DVD va
> post sefareshi barayeh pakhsh dar barnameh ayandeh
> 
> 7. Team Barnameh nevissi Visual Basic ya Visual C++
> barayeh sakhtan barnameh hayeh mokhtalef manand
> Timer. Man yek Timer dar internet peyda kardam (akss
> ra hamrah in nameh bebinid az
> http://www.harmonyhollow.net/ keh khob asst va alarm
> mizanad vali badish in asst nazar Amin ra nemishe
> anjam dad keh 30 sanieh zoodtar zang zad choon 30
> sanieh ra bayad har dafeh doneh doneh behesh
> bedahid. Agar mishood type kard khoob bood, jayi
> soragh darid ?. Shayad bayad khodeman dorosst konim
> dar VB ya zabani digar.
> 
> 8. Team bazar yabi keh ba massalan sherkathayeh
> telefoni sohbat konad barayeh daryaft karthayeh
> telefoni va sponsorship keh motekhassessin betoonand
> rahat zang bezanand va beh soalat javab dahand. Agar
> emkan in nabood keh team IT dar manzel ya mohal kar
> motekhassess emkan bargharari tamass az tarigh
> Internet ra bevojood beyavarand.
> 
> 9. Team rooznameh negaran keh akhbar ra benevissand
> va soal va javab ha ra betoonand dar web site
> klasseh konand va negah dari barayeh ayandeh.
> 
> Digeh bishtar teami felan beh nazaram nemiressad.
> Lootfan email zanid va begoyid agar team i kam asst
> va bayad beh list ezafeh shavad. Va garnah ba hamin
> team ha shoro konim keh list karhayi keh royeh
> takhteh darim dorosst konim.
> 
> Barayeh har team shayad behtar bashad yek TEAM LEAD
> dashteh bashim keh hamahnagi konad keh az tarigh
> ghoreh keshi an fard ra entekhab mikonim baad
> ROTATION dashteh bashim keh avaz shavad va hamash
> yek nafar TEAM LEAD nabashad va afrad shanss emtehan
> kardan in massaleh ra dashteh bashand. Albateh in
> pishnehad asst agar nazar digari darid befarmayid.
> 
> Banabarin lootf konid yek kar konid :
> 
> 1. Agar khasstid yek email beh goroh bezanid va essm
> team digari keh ehtiaj asst bashad begoyid keh
> ezafeh shavad.
> 
> 2. Beh email man faghat nah goroh (iranian_symbian
> AT yahoo DOT com) email bezanid va dar Subject
> benevissid che gorohi mikhayid faaliat konid,
> massalan :
> 
> Subject : 8 - Team Bazar yabi
> 
> Baad keh hameh afrad jam shood va TEAM LEAD ha ra
> entekhab kardim shoro mikonim. Agar Teami afrad
> nadasht ya kam avard shayad behtar bashad gorekeshi
> az team hayeh digar dar an team gozasht, ya agar
> shoma nazari darid keh che konim befarmayid.
> 
> Khoob bish az in vaghtetan ra nemigiram, choon
> khodam ham khassteh shoodam doneh doneh in nazarat
> ra dar PostIT gozashtam, beram bekhabam ta royeh
> kamputer nayoftadam.
> 
> Omidvaram shoma ham faal bashid va hameh javab
> bedahand keh sabet konim ma Irani ha mitoonim kar
> gorohi bekonim.
> 
> Ba Tashakoor
> Rosso Salmanzadeh
> 
>
> 
> [1] All pictures:
>
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/iranian_symbian/lst?.dir=/TvProgram
> 
> [2] Slideshow:
>
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/iranian_symbian/slideshow?&.dir=/TvProgram
> 
>
> 
>
> #1575;#1605;#1610;#1606; #1600;
>
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> #1575;#1586; #1608;#1576; #1575;#1580;#1585;#1575;
> #1588;#1608;#1583;#1572;
>
> 
>
> #1575;#1605;#1610;#1606;
>
> #1583;#1593;#1608;#1578; #1575;#1586;
> #1605;#1578;#1582;#1589;#1589;#1610;#1606;
> #1575;#1610;#1585;#1575;#1606;#1610; #1608;
> #1582;#1575;#1585;#1580;#1610; #1583;#1585;
> #1576;#1585;#1606;#1575;#1605;#1607;
>
#1578;#1604;#1608;#1610;#1586;#1610;#1608;#1606;#1610;
>
>
> 
>
> #1575;#1605;#1610;#1606; #1600;
>
> #1578;#1604;#1601;#1606;#1607;#1575;
> #1605;#1587;#1578;#1602;#1610;#1605;
> #1608;#1589;#1604; #1606;#1588;#1608;#1583;
> #1576;#1585;#1575;#1610;
> #1580;#1604;#1608;#1711;#1610;#1585;#1610;
> #1575;#1586; #1575;#1584;#1610;#1578;
> #1575;#1601;#1585;#1575;#1583;#1572;
>
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>
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> #1603;#1606;#1606;#1583;#1711;#1575;#1606;
> #1575;#1601;#1585;#1575;#1583;
> #1605;#1581;#1583;#1608;#1583; #1575;#1586;
> #1610;#1603; #1604;#1610;#1587;#1578;
> #1576;#1575;#1588;#1583; #1605;#1579;#1604;#1575;
> #1604;#1610;#1587;#1578; #1575;#1610;#1606;
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>
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khedmateh doostaneh azizam arz konam keh beh nazareh man barayeh
shoro kardan, behtar ast chand kar dar moghadameh soorat begirad:
1- yek database az aazayeh grouh dorost konim va takhassoseh khodeh grouh ra bebinim dar chist.

--- In Iranian_Symbian@yahoogroups.com, Iranian Symbian
<iranian_symbian@y...> wrote:
> Salam,
> 
> A. Vaght an asst keh faz aval (Phase 1) keh prestudy yek projeh
asst ra bebandim. Mamoolan dar yeki az ravesh hayeh modiriat projeh
in faz ha ra matrah mikonand :
> 
> a. Prestuday  - Motaleh avalieh
> b. Feasibility  - prototype va tahghigh emkan dorosst kardam system
> c. Execution  - sakhtan system
> d. Closing      - beh payan ressandan projeh
> 
> Dar SCHOOL Hayeh digar gorohbandi hayeh digar manand Introduction,
planning va gheyreh sohbat mikonand vali be toor kol barayeh ma
fargh nemikonad dar in jaryan.
> 
> B. In doosstan zir lootf kardan barashoon Ayandeh khodeshan va
keshvareshan va atrafianeshan mohem bood va nazarat khood ra dadand.
Assami nessbat beh tarikh daryaft nazar asst:
> 
> 1. Amin Mahmudian
> 2. Reza Modarres
> 3. Payman M.Jaberi
> 4. M. Karimi
> 5. Sohrab Asadzadeh
> 
> C. Dar akss hamrah in nameh ya dar zir list tammam in nazarat ra
keh royeh PostIT va takhteh chassbandim bedoon tartib mibinid.
> 
> D. Dar linkhayeh zir [1] va [2] keh avali hameh akssha asst va 2
anha ra beh soorat slide show sari neshoon mideh, goroh bandi in
nazarat va klasseh kardan anha ra mibinid. Albateh in yeki az
emkanat tabagheh bandi asst, halat digar ham mishavad, vali in yeki
az halat asst, keh hadaaf ma ra miressanad.
> 
> D. Dar phase 2 bayad hala shoro be kar konim keh ghabl az ankeh
barnameh televisioni shoro besheh system ra amadeh rah andazi
dashteh bashim.
> 
> Hal bayad goroh hayeh mokhtalef dorosst konim va system ra beh
soorat Prototype dorosst konim va tamrin konim keh bebinim system ra
mitoonim bessazim ya nah.
> 
> Barayeh rahat tar kardan kar behtar asst team hayeh mokhtalef
dorosst konim. Team hayi keh alan nessbat beh goroh hayi keh az
nazarat dorosst shodeh beh nazar man miressad in asst, keh shoma
lotfan nazar bedahid keh team digari aya ehtiaj asst ?
> 
> 1. Team WEB va sakhtan system Web
> 
> 2. Team Filmbardari va tahieh reportage
> 
> 3. Team tahghighat barayeh peyda kardan motekhassessin va klasseh
kardan anha
> 
> 4. Team Editing vared beh massael graphic keh film hayeh gerefteh
shodeh ra edit kardeh va amadeh pakhsh
> 
> 5. Team IT keh system IT ra rah beyandazand barayeh vassl shodan
shabakeh va rah andazi system hayi manand Netmeeting, IPhone, yahoo
messenger etc keh ba doorbin va microfon besheh ertebat mosstaghim
bargharar kard.
> 
> 6. Team FTP keh mitavanad ghessmati az IT bashad keh film hayeh
tahieh shodeh ra ftp kardeh ya DVD va post sefareshi barayeh pakhsh
dar barnameh ayandeh
> 
> 7. Team Barnameh nevissi Visual Basic ya Visual C++ barayeh
sakhtan barnameh hayeh mokhtalef manand Timer. Man yek Timer dar
internet peyda kardam (akss ra hamrah in nameh bebinid az 
http://www.harmonyhollow.net/ keh khob asst va alarm mizanad vali
badish in asst nazar Amin ra nemishe anjam dad keh 30 sanieh zoodtar
zang zad choon 30 sanieh ra bayad har dafeh doneh doneh behesh
bedahid. Agar mishood type kard khoob bood, jayi soragh darid ?.
Shayad bayad khodeman dorosst konim dar VB ya zabani digar.
> 
> 8. Team bazar yabi keh ba massalan sherkathayeh telefoni sohbat
konad barayeh daryaft karthayeh telefoni va sponsorship keh
motekhassessin betoonand rahat zang bezanand va beh soalat javab
dahand. Agar emkan in nabood keh team IT dar manzel ya mohal kar
motekhassess emkan bargharari tamass az tarigh Internet ra bevojood
beyavarand.
> 
> 9. Team rooznameh negaran keh akhbar ra benevissand va soal va
javab ha ra betoonand dar web site klasseh konand va negah dari
barayeh ayandeh.
> 
> Digeh bishtar teami felan beh nazaram nemiressad. Lootfan email
zanid va begoyid agar team i kam asst va bayad beh list ezafeh
shavad. Va garnah ba hamin team ha shoro konim keh list karhayi keh
royeh takhteh darim dorosst konim.
> 
> Barayeh har team shayad behtar bashad yek TEAM LEAD dashteh bashim
keh hamahnagi konad keh az tarigh ghoreh keshi an fard ra entekhab
mikonim baad ROTATION dashteh bashim keh avaz shavad va hamash yek
nafar TEAM LEAD nabashad va afrad shanss emtehan kardan in massaleh
ra dashteh bashand. Albateh in pishnehad asst agar nazar digari
darid befarmayid.
> 
> Banabarin lootf konid yek kar konid :
> 
> 1. Agar khasstid yek email beh goroh bezanid va essm team digari
keh ehtiaj asst bashad begoyid keh ezafeh shavad.
> 
> 2. Beh email man faghat nah goroh (iranian_symbian AT yahoo DOT
com) email bezanid va dar Subject benevissid che gorohi mikhayid
faaliat konid, massalan :
> 
> Subject : 8 - Team Bazar yabi
> 
> Baad keh hameh afrad jam shood va TEAM LEAD ha ra entekhab kardim
shoro mikonim. Agar Teami afrad nadasht ya kam avard shayad behtar
bashad gorekeshi az team hayeh digar dar an team gozasht, ya agar
shoma nazari darid keh che konim befarmayid.
> 
> Khoob bish az in vaghtetan ra nemigiram, choon khodam ham khassteh
shoodam doneh doneh in nazarat ra dar PostIT gozashtam, beram
bekhabam ta royeh kamputer nayoftadam.
> 
> Omidvaram shoma ham faal bashid va hameh javab bedahand keh sabet
konim ma Irani ha mitoonim kar gorohi bekonim.
> 
> Ba Tashakoor
> Rosso Salmanzadeh
> 
>
> 
> [1] All pictures:
>
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/iranian_symbian/lst?.dir=/TvProg
ram
> 
> [2] Slideshow:
> http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/iranian_symbian/slideshow?
&.dir=/TvProgram
> 
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>
> Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@y...> wrote:
>
> Ba salam,
> 
> Dirooz dashtam fekr mikardam keh agar ITC baz beshe shayad
betoonim ba Khosrow sohbat konim shanbeh ha massalan mahi yek bar ya
dohafteh i yekbar, ya agar REMOTE va az rah door ba WEB/INTERNET
beshe hafteh i yek bar yek barnameh i dar mored Telefon ha Symbian
va az in harfha chand saati dashteh bashim beh soorat Talk Show.
> 
> Bayad harf zadan bashad keh khassteh konandeh nabashad. Dar zemn
amoozeshi keh hamegi yek chizi az hamdigar yad begirim, keh bayad
afrad betoonand zang bezanand va nazarateshoon va khabar jadid
begoyand va gheyreh.
> 
> Hala nazar shooma chisst ?
> 
> 1. Beh nezar shoma ingooneh barnameh ha chegooneh bayad bashad keh
poor binandeh bashad va tarafdar dashteh bashad ?
> 
> 2. Afrad chand daghigheh bayad betoonand sohbat konand ? Massalan
shayad khoob bashad messl yek projeh adam ejrah konad, yek Timer va
saat vaght gir bozorg begozarad joloyeh Television baad har nafar 2
daghigeh. Beh mojaredi keh 2 daghigeh tammom shood adam telefon ra
ghat konad, mikhahad harf taraf tamoom shodeh ya nashodeh. Ya
begozarad taraf harfash tamam besheh, choon dar farhang ma in bi
adabi asst vassat harf kassi ghat koni ? Agar sari 2 daghigeh ghat
konad afrad yad migirand keh DEADLINE yek projeh ra raayat konand va
beh mogheh PRODUCT ra tahvil bedahand. Ya sar gharar beh moghe
beravand keh khood in dar yek projeh sanaati kheyli mohem asst va
injoori tamrin vaght negah dari mikonim.
> 
> Dar in soorat 2 daghigeh ya 1 daghigeh ya 3 daghigeh ? Mishe az
har kass porssid vaghti zang mizanad, keh chand daghigeh 1, 2, 3
baad bayad taraf betooneh dar oon modat tammoom konad. Yani taraf
bayad aval beravad joloyeh Ayneh tamrin konad keh dar hamoon moodat
sohbat konad va vaght begirad baad zang bezanad.
> 
> 3. Che kassani mitavanand zang bezanand ? Har kass khasst ? Ya
afradi keh massalan dar yek link web site REGISTER kardeh and va yek
Code darand ? Agar register bashad yek kam jaryan Mohayej tar
mishavad, afrad mitonnand beravand ghablesh bey yek web site
register konand baad etelaat va jomelati keh mikhahand benevissand
va linkhayi etelaati mikhahand begozarand vali INACTIVE asst va faal
nisst. Baad keh zang zadand CODE makhssoos khood ra midahand mojri
barnameh neveshteh an taraf ra ACTIVE mikonad mosstaghim online dar
DATABASE keh digaran mitavanand ham zaman ba barnameh beravand
neveshteh hayeh taraf ra bekhoonand (messl weblog). Baad dar oon
modat mitooneh kholasseh oon neveshteh ha ra dar Television begoyad,
keh mitooneh khabar tekniki rooz ya khabar mah bashad. Bayad in
system ra ba WEB va DATABASE design konim keh mitoonim baadan beh
soorat kar gorohi dorosst konim va yek ja begozarim. Keh ehemalan
baadan yek gorohi dorosst mikonim az alagheh mandan va ba ham
dorosst mikonim.
>  Har kodoom az ma mitavanad tammam system ra 5 daghigeh i dorosst
konad vali hadaf in asst kar gorohi konim va ba ham FUN dashteh
bashim, yani har kass ghessmat kochaki ra dorosst khahad kard keh
bishtar kar gorohi yad begirim.
> 
> 4. Taraf keh zang mizanand hagh tabligh darad massalan
begoyad "areh man shenidam keh felan foroshgah felan dasstgah ra
miforoshad". Shayad OK asst injoori sherkatha va foroshghah ha ham
tashvigh mishavand keh barnameh ra donbal konand.
> 
> 5. Chegooneh joloyeh fohsh mohsh va aziat kardan ha ra mishe
gereft ? Mishe adam azad begozarad afrad zang bezanand va fohsh
bedahand baad az modati khassteh mishavand va beh SATURATION
(eshbah) va MATURATION (pokhtegi) miressand digar in kar ra
nemikonand ? Agar dasstgah DELAY begozari shayad control system ra
kheyli COMPLEX mikoni va baadan bekhayim az rah door va WEB Based
kar konim moshkel beshe. Agar begozari fohsh dahand baadan momken
asst afrad zang bezanand begoyand ma inja khanoom o bacheh ha pay
television neshasstand shoma chera in fohsh ha ra ghat nemikonid.
Rah hal chisst ?
> 
> 6. Soal o javab tekniki chi ? faghat mishe tekniki harf zad ya
soal va javab ham mishe ? Chegoneh mishe system i dorosst kard keh
afrad keh motekhassessand zang bezanand beh afradi keh soal darand
javab bedahand. Baaz bayad system Internet va WEB va Web Cam va
shayad Netmeeting va aya system digari mishenassid ? bekar boord.
Yani afrad az ghabl soalateshan ra dar WEB Register kardeh bashand
keh motekhassessin ham Register kardeh and va in hafteh in soal ha
ra in motekhassess javab mideh, hafteh digar fardi digar va gheyreh.
> 
> Kholasseh inha felan nazarat va afkari bood keh beh nazar man
amad. Nazar va fekr shoma chisst ? Mitoonim inja yek Brain Storming
(rikhtan aghayed va maghzha royeh ham) bekonim keh avalin ghadam yek
projeh asst. Agar gharar bood system i (Web) bessazim ba ham digeh
ba UML va USE CASE DIAGRAM va ossoli pish mirim va missazim.
> 
> Hala felan bebinim nazar afrad chieh va betoor kol che karhayeh
jalebi mishe ba Television kard beh nazar shooma ?
> 
> Ba tashakoor
> Rosso Salmanzadeh
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
>
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salam be hame,
khob,aval begam ke man hastam ta berim sare asl
matlab.

DERAKHT ke fekr konam hame bedoonim be chi migan to
Computer(fekr konam be engelish ham TREE migan,B
TREE;B* TREE va...)derakht ma alan ke ye rishe (ROOT)
dare 4 ta barg (va 95 ta ozve nazer)aghay Rosso ye
kari ro shoro kardan,va shodan ROOT hala ma
shageradhay in kelas hastim(inja bayad begam ke man
kheyli chiaz az in goroh yad gereftam masalan hamin
ravesh modiriat projeh ke age garar shod ye vaghti ye
sherkati dashte bashim bedoonim che kar
konim),banabarin in derakhte ghesey ma 4 barg peyda
kard,doroste in ye derakht bozorg va ghavi nist,vali
baray shoro bad nist(ki bood hamishe dastan simorgh ro
tarif mikard :-) )
dar mored kar, az anche ke aghay Rosso dar javab
e-mail man dar mored mosalas anjam projeh goftand in
jori bardasht mikonam ke hala bayad task hay mohemtaro
joda kard va dar olaviat garar dad,chon zaman va afrad
dast ma nist,albate peyda kardane ozv az beyne ashnaha
eideh va rah hale khobi bood.be nazar man mohemtarin
kar sakht WEB PAGE ast,age farz konim 10 nafar az ozv
ha  hadaksar bekhan TEL bezanan hala 5 daghighe 7
daghighe ziad farg nemikone.

manam fekr konam ba rah oftadan TV oza behtar beshe
banabarin dar ebteda shayad barname behtare ke az
hamoon amrika pick up(!) beshe,dar mored zaman proje
az nazar siasi shayad behtare barname bad az tamoom
shodan Chapter hay Symbian(pakhsh mishe dige?) shoro
beshe ta digaran be faaliat aval bargardan.

bargardim sare derakhtemoon,shenidin ke migan hamishe
nime por livan ro negah konid vali man migam hamishe
kole livan ro negah konim,ham por ham khali,hala ma
midonim ke HADEAGHAL(MIN) 4 nafarim,doroste az 10
nafar kamtare vali az 2 nafar ke bishtare.
dar mored Cancel shodan man narahat shodam,vali goftam
  ma inja yad migirim ke herfei bashim Cancel shodan
projeh ham ye ehtemale,vali make naomid nemishim rahi
ke omadim rahe DOROSTI bode pas edame midim che ba 4
nafar che ba 4000 nafar(albate mosalaman in 1+4 nafar
     ba oon 3995 nafar fargh hay mikonand)
pas be omid pirozi,beit:"andaki sabr sahar nazdik ast"
rasti in do rozi ke naboodid delemoon baratoon tang
shode bood.
ba tashakor
Amin Mahmudian
--- Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@...> wrote:

> hame midonan <

=====
Amin.M.M



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salam be hame,

man daneshjoo hastam va hanooz projeh rasmi baray jayi
nadashtam, vali harfay BOOS bram kheyli jaleb bood
chand ta nokte be nazaram resid :
dar mored kelas va daneshgah goftid,man alan ke vagt
emtehan hast fekr mikonam mibinam agar in ravesh ro
ejra mikardam kheyli baram khob bood,vali agar man ye
rozi ostade ye jayi shodam hatman in ravesho entekhab
mikonam,ham baray khodam rahattare ham baray daneshjo
ha,masalan ma vasat term yek dafe ostad miad mige
hafte dige ya do hafte dige emtehane,hala ma onrooz
emtehan dashte bashim ya harchi.

ye rooz chand sale pish ke aghay Khatami reis
jomhoor,rafte bood USA baray sokhanrani dar UN,ke
hamoon vaght baray IRANi ha dar USA ham sokhanrani
dasht,goft mohajerat yeki az rahhay goftegoy
tamadonhast, man ba khodam goftam baray ma ke dakhel
hastm chetoor mitone mofid bashe,behar hal goftegoo do
tarafe ast,ba in sohbat hay agay Rosso hala
mifahmam,man fekr mikonam ma be onvam gheshr tahsil
karde bayad baray pishraft keshvaremoon bishtar va
behtar kar konim,chon be har hal ma az sarmaie hay in
keshvar be inja residim va masoliat darim,man yek
shoar baray khodam daram ke hamishe behesh amal
mikonam ke : AGE AZ CHIZI NARAHATI GHOR NAZAN AVAZAESH
KON.shayad kheyli chiza ro nashe alan avaz kard,vali
mesl parvaz mimone,alan age dar mored behtarin
havapeyma ha ham bekhan sohbat konand aval filme onai
ro neshon midan ke ba bali ke ba par dorost karde mi
khast bepare.ma ye ostad dashtim baray yeki az
darsamoon dar bare vejdan mohandesi sohbat mikard mesl
hamin vaght shenasi,khodesh migoft ye projeh gereftam
ta tarikh 2 hafte dige hanooz shoro nakardam.manzoram
ine ke age chizi garare avaz beshe khodemoon bayad
avazesh konim hala shayad 30-40 sal tool bekeshe vali
sale 1410 masalan dige in moshke vojod nadare.
merci,mibakhshid ziad neveshtam
Amin Mahmudian 

--- Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@...> wrote:

> Ba Salam,
> 
> Ba Hamid yeki az dosstan faal aziz, mozoh vaght
> shenassi va daghigh boodan dar massael roozaneh dar
> email mored bahss bood.
> 
> Ba Sohrab aziz yeki digar az dosstan aziz dar in
> goroh dar mored beh mogheh tahvil dadan projeh dar
> yek email mored bahss bood keh ishan migoftand keh
> dar chand projeh keh barayeh yek sherkati dar kharej
> az Iran anjam dadand tajroobeh khobi nadashtand va
> jaryan beh daghighe 90 va penalty keshideh shood.
> 
> Gooftam shayad behtar bashad bahss ra beh goroh va
> omomi bekeshim bebinim tajroobeh digar dosstan chi
> boodeh ? Aya shoma halati ra soragh darid dar Iran
> ya kharej Iran keh projeh beh mogheh va tarikhi keh
> gofteh shoodeh anjam shoodeh ? Agar areh, dalayel
> moafaghiat an beh nazar shooam chi boodeh ? Agar
> nah, dalayel shekasst ? Beh nazar shooma chekar
> bayad kard keh yek projeh dar har farhangi beh
> mogheh tahvil dadeh shavad ? Mitonid dar inja
> nazaretan ra begoyid ya khaterat khoob ya bad dar in
> mored ra benevissid.
> 
> Ghabl az shoma agar man az tajaroob khodam begoyam,
> tajaroobi keh daram dar projeh hayeh mokhtalef dar
> keshvar hayeh mokhtalef va ba farhang hayeh
> mokhtalef boodeh. Fekr mikonam in tanha ma Irani ha
> nisstim ba zaman moshkel darim, hamangooneh keh
> goftam bisthar afradi keh az Khavar mianeh va
> manategh atraf didam moshkel darand. Baad dar Oropa
> harchi payin tar va jonob tar miravid in moshkel
> bishtar mishavad. Massalan jonoob Europa keshvarhayi
> messl Italia, Espania, Portugal, Jonob fransseh,
> farhangi messl khodeman keh hala bebinim chi mishe
> ziad mibinid. Kheyli shahrhayeh Espania keh mibinid
> manand baazi az shahrhayeh khodeman zohr ha kareshan
> ra tark mikonand miravand nahar mikhorand va
> mikhaband (SIESTA) va 3, 4 dobareh miayand. Albateh
> shayad in beh elaat garm boodan hava dar in keshvar
> ha asst. Dar avaz shabha mibinid edareh momken asst
> ta 6, 7 baz bashad va foroshghaha ta 12 shab manand
> Bombay dar hend keh hava garm asst va jonb o joosh
> khood ra darad.
> 
> Dar avaz dar shomal Oropa dar keshvar hayi messl
> Alman, baad keshvarhayeh Eskandinavy manand Danmark,
> Soed, Finland, Norwej (Norway) har chi bala tar miri
> hava sardtar va monazami bishtar. Agar gharar bashad
> saat 5:00 dar Bank ya foroshgah bassteh shavad haman
> saat darb bassteh mishavad. Hala shoma harcheh
> mikhayid royeh shishe bezanid keh agha, khanoom toro
> khooda darb ra baz kon man faghat migkham felan chiz
> ra sari bekharam beram. Gheyr momken asst dar ra baz
> konand. Kheyli royeh shishe bezanid momken asst
> polis beyayad va shomara bebarad.
> 
> Choon onha oon saat bayad darb ra bebandand, va baad
> ghabz hara hessab konand va hessab rooz ra bebandand
> va massalan otoboss saat 5:37 ra begirad beravad
> khanash. Agar shoma 3 daghigeh moatelash konid
> otoboss 5:37 daghigeh ra az dasst midahad.
> 
> Albateh doosti beh shokhi migoft in kehsvarhayeh
> shomal oropa, barayeh in inghdar moratab shodand va
> sar gharareshan daghigh 8:10 massalan miayand choon
> otoboss hashoon agar dar jadval zamanbandi neveshteh
> sobh saat 8:17 miayad baadi 8:23 baadi 8:37 va
> gheyreh, agar nayayad taraf zemesstoon az sarma
> oonja khoshkash mizanad va mimirad. Beh har hal har
> dalili darad kheyli moratab va vaght shenass
> hasstand va hamin massaleh ra shoma dar projeh ha
> mibinid massalan projeh hayeh sherkat hayi manannd
> Ericsson, Sony Ericsson va Nokia. Banbarin bayad
> havassetan bashad projeh i ba in sherkat ha dar
> ayandeh dashtid vaght shenassi barashoon kheyli
> mohem asst, va agar kehsvar hayeh digar oropayi va
> amrikayi ra dideh id inha digar 10 barabar anha
> hasstand va in ra khoob asst dar zehnetan dashteh
> bashid vaghti projeh ha ra anjam midahid.
> 
> Ma avayel keh Soed daneshgah ya kelass hayeh digar
> miraftim, mididim rooz aval moalem ya osstad miayad
> AGENDA va list tammam karha dar tool sal ra midahad
> va migoyand che roozi che saati emtehan ha asst.
> Baad bacheh hayeh soedi shoro mikonand taghvim hayeh
> makhsoos az kif va jibeshan dar avardand va tarikha
> ra nevesthan va bahss shoro mishe keh osstad mishe
> massalan felan test ra felan rooz beh 2 rooz baad
> montaghel konid choon midoonid oon rooz ghablesh
> tatil asst va felan etefagh mioftad, bacheh hayeh
> goroh ham felan barnameh ra darand va gheyreh.
> Kholasseh hameh movafeghat mikardand va tarikh avaz
> mishood.
> 
> Ya dar kelass hayeh khodemooni kochak tar mididi
> felani migoft man dar oon hafteh (6 mah digar)
> massooliat bache ha ra beh ohdeh daram va felan
> massaleh saat 4:30 bayad beram agar kassi mokhalef
> nisst in jaryan ra beh saat 3:45 enteghal dahim,
> hameh negah mikardand beh taghvimashoon va migoftand
> barayeh man OK asst kholasseh in vaghtha hamoon rooz
> aval tanzim mishood.
> 
> Ma ham haj o baj oon vassat ba farhang Irani, 30
> daghigeh keh hichi, 4, 5 saat keh hichi, emtehan ham
> keh gharar dashtim hamoon shab akhar yek karish
> bekonim keh. Inha chi migoyand ? Az koja midoonand 6
> mah digar che khabar asst. Kholasseh baadan mididim
> eh rasst goftand chand rooz ghabl az emtehan hamoon
> jaryani keh oonha migoftand va oon tatilat felan
> moshkel ra bevojood miavarad va kholasseh ta etefagh
> nemiotfad nemifahmidim.
> 
> Albateh baad az chand sal didim khodemoon ham messl
> oonha shoodim, az 3 mah ghabl emtehanat ra tanzim
> kardeh va beh khondan mashghool. Mayi keh toyeh Iran
> hamoon shab akhar maximum hafteh akhar kheyli
> mikhondim. Albateh dar oon reshteh keh ma mikhandim
> dar Soed nemidoonam jaryan ba daneshghah hayeh digar
> keh khondeh boodam kheyli fargh mikard va kheyli
> sakht bood va 5 ta darss ba ham mibayesst khond keh
> bedoon in barnameh rizi va tanzim vaght asslan
> nemishood pish raft va vahedi gozaroond. Va mamoolan
> bishtar karmandan va mohandessin Ericsson Soed,
> makhssoosan dar sath modiriat projeh ha messl inkeh
> maghaleh i nevestheh bood az oon daneshghah biroon
> miayand. Vali betoor kool mishe in moratabi ra dar
> sath keshvar dar in keshvar hayeh Scandinaviayi
> messl Soed (Ericsson) va Finland (Nokia) did.
> 
> Tazeh Finlandi ha gheyr az in monazami dar vaght az
> Soedi ha poor kar tar hasstand va kheyli kar
> mikonand. Dar zemn yek khassiati keh in keshvar ha
> darand keh shoma dar sherkat hashoon ham mibinid
> TRUST va etemaad ziad beh bala dassteshan va
> hokoomat va gheyreh darand va khodeshan ra dar hameh
> massael sharik midanand. Bar akss massalan Italiayi
> ha keh migoyand massalan hokoomat va oon bala
> CORRUPTED va fassed asst va dasst Mafia asst pass
> man chera dorosst kar konam ? Har ja mishe yek joori
> az kar momken asst bezanand va taghaloob konand.
> Massalan migoyand bishtar sherkat ha dar Italia 2 ta
> daftar hessabdari akhar sal darand yeki oon keh beh
> doolat midahand va daramad ra kam neshoon midahand
> yeki ankeh barayeh khodeshan negah midarand.
> 
> In massaleh TRUST dar yek projeh kheyli mohem asst
> va inkeh afrad INVOLVED (khod ra jozi az projeh
> danesstand) bashand. Beh onvan messal man dooreh
> daneshjooyi jayi dar soed kar mikardam keh afrad
> ziad az melliat haye mokhtalef donya bood. Az khavar
> mianeh, asia, afrighayeh shomali (marakesh, tuness
> va gheyreh). Mididi khareji ha say mikonand az zir
> kar dar beravand ya beh har sorat yek kalaki toyeh
> kar bezanand. Ya massalan agar raiss nabood sari 1
> saat zood tar beravand khooneh. Az yek Soedi yek bar
> didam baghieh darand miravand oon hamintoor kar
> mikonad gooftam to nemiri ? Goft man keh hanooz 8
> saat karam ra anjam nadadeh am nemitonam beravam.
> Man barayeh 8 saat dar rooz hoghogh migiram bayad 8
> saat kar konam. Maroo migi pish khodam goftam ajab
> afradi inha hasstand, bikhood nisst ba in jamiat 9
> millionishoon inghadar pishraft kardeh and va in
> hameh teknology pishrafteh az jomleh ABB, Ericsson,
> SAAB, VOLVO va gheyreh darand. Kashki ma Irani ha
> ham yek zamani inghadar daghigh va
>  moratab mishoodim.
> 
> Albateh adam bayad vagheh bin bashad man fekr
> nemikonam ma hichvaght dar Iran messl in keshvar
> hayeh scandinavia daghigh va moratab shavim va
> etemaad beh bala dassti keh hatman ehtiaj nabashad
> kassi bala sareman bashad ta kari ra anjam dahim.
> Choon in khassiat ra dar keshvar hayeh digar ham
> nemibinid. Messl Franssavi ha Italiayi ha keh tazeh
> dar Oropa hasstand tazeh che beresseh beh digar
> keshvarhayeh Asia va Amrikayeh shomali ya jonobi.
> 
> Dar projeh ha inja dar Amrika etefagh hayeh jalebi
> mioftad zamani sherkathayi manand Ericsson ya Nokia
> miayand inja va karmandashan afrad mokhtalef az
> keshvar hayeh mokhtalef asst, choon dar Amrika afrad
> az hameh keshvarhayeh donya dar Engineering
> hasstand, az Asia gerefteh ta oropa va amrikayeh
> shomali va amrikhayi jonobo. Har koodam farhanghayeh
> khodeshan va tarif khood barayeh zaman. Modiriat in
> gooneh projeh ha kheyli sakht asst va shoma
> chizhayeh ziadi yad migirid. Ehtemalan yek projeh
> dar Iran ya yek projeh dar Soed sadeh tar asst
> randan choon bishtar afrad yek farhang darand va
> shoma midanid ba oon farhang chegooneh barkhord
> konid vali yek projeh keh chand farhangi asst kheyli
> sakht va dar zemn jaleb asst dar CONFLICT
> (ekhtelafat) va MISSUNDERSTANDING (dorosst
> nafahmidan manzoor yek digar).
> 
> Choon ma enssan ha mamoolan fekr mikonim keh taraf
> moghabeleman haman bardashti az kalameh i keh ma
> bekar mibirim darad keh khodeman darim. Vali az koja
> midanim
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salam be hame,
khob,aval begam ke man hastam ta berim sare asl
matlab.

DERAKHT ke fekr konam hame bedoonim be chi migan to
Computer(fekr konam be engelish ham TREE migan,B
TREE;B* TREE va...)derakht ma alan ke ye rishe (ROOT)
dare 4 ta barg (va 95 ta ozve nazer)aghay Rosso ye
kari ro shoro kardan,va shodan ROOT hala ma
shageradhay in kelas hastim(inja bayad begam ke man
kheyli chiaz az in goroh yad gereftam masalan hamin
ravesh modiriat projeh ke age garar shod ye vaghti ye
sherkati dashte bashim bedoonim che kar
konim),banabarin in derakhte ghesey ma 4 barg peyda
kard,doroste in ye derakht bozorg va ghavi nist,vali
baray shoro bad nist(ki bood hamishe dastan simorgh ro
tarif mikard :-) )

Morghayeh si morgh kami khejalati az kar dar amadeh and nemikhahand beparand :-)

Migam nakooneh in dasstanhayeh simorgh va arash kamangir va gheyreh ra dar ketab hayeh farsi ma alaki neveshtand ma ra gerefteh and ? :-)

Vali az skhokhi gozashteh, kar haro hamishe mishe kochak ham shoro kard va baad bozorg kard. Yek sherkat kamputeri Soedi man dar an kar mikardam keh ravabet ham kheyli doostaneh va khoob bood, in az 2 nafar daneshjoo keh darsseshan tammam shoodeh bood shoro shodeh bood alan 8000 nafar dar bishtar kehsvar hayeh oropa shoobeh darand. Vaghti shoma esstekhdam mishavid mamoolan yek konferans 1, 2 roozeh darand keh dar jayi afrad jadid ra daavat mikonand ba nahar, sham va hotel keh hamdigar ra beshnassid va karhayeh gorohi kochak anjam bedahid. Hadaf in asst keh NETWORK va shabakeh doosti tashkil dahid pass farda dar sherkat kar mikonid choon in afrad az ghessmat hayeh mokhtalef hasstand massalan kassi dar ghessmat hessabdari esstekhdam shoodeh, kassi barnameh rizi UNIX kassi WEB kassi NT Admin kassi AUTO INDUSTRY (barayeh otomobil) va kholasseh ghessmat hayeh mokhtalef. Hala shoma in chand rooz in afrad ra mishenassid passfarda yek projeh darid keh ass ghessmat hayeh mokhtalef ehtiaj darad midoonid mitoonid telefon ra bardarid felani keh felan ghessmat kar mikard ra mishenassid va mitavanid soal konid va khejalat nemikeshid va rahat tar hasstid.

Albateh ba parti bazi eshtebah nasheh keh kar khoobi nisst va mojeb bad pish raftan projeh, sherkat va keshvar mishavad. In bishtar hadaf COMMUNICATION va ertebatat asst keh migoyand agar afrad FACE TO FACE (mosstaghim hamdigar ra dideh bashand) baadan kar kardan ba ham barashoon rahat tar asst.

Kholasseh manzooram in asst keh dar in sherkat dar in konferens hanooz oon afradi keh aval in sherkat ra rah andakhtand miayand va sohbat mikonand keh alan pir shoodeh and. 20, 30 sal pish fekr konam avalin gharardadeshan ra ba yek sherkat pomp benzin basstand barayeh karhayeh ACCOUNTING (hessabdari) keh hanooz bahash kar mikonand va migoft avalin Faktori keh barayeh moshtari fresstadim shomareh Faktor 1 bood. Keh fekr konam SCAN shodeh an ra ham neshan midad. Va in do nafar hichvaght toyeh omreshan kar rassmi nakardeh boodand keh hamin chegoneh Faktor ra dorosst konand va print konand va befresstand keh hatman neveshtan barnameh kamputeri barayeh faktor khodeshan ham dasstani barashoon bood.

Beh har hal manzooram 2 nafari ham mishe shoro kard. Hala ma 4 nafar darim, dosst azizeman aghayeh Sohrab ham keh dar email digari elam amadegi kardand va mitavanand kanali bashand beh motekhassessin. Payman ham dar email digari dar mored jaryan web sohbat kardeh, banabarin tedad barayeh shoro bad nisst baadan mishe gosstaresh dad.

Hala man yek email beh faghat in afrad mifresstam keh motmaen shavim hameh mikhahand edameh dahand messl jaryan oon Si morgh keh hamoon aval motmaen bashim vassat rah kassi negh nazaneh keh in si morgh chi shood :-)

Ehtemalan agar bekhayim adab ra ham raayat konim shayad bayad yek nazar sanji ham inja rah beyandazim keh ma in harf hara inja mizanim mozahem digaran nemishim ?

dar mored kar, az anche ke aghay Rosso dar javab
e-mail man dar mored mosalas anjam projeh goftand in
jori bardasht mikonam ke hala bayad task hay mohemtaro
joda kard va dar olaviat garar dad,chon zaman va afrad
dast ma nist,albate peyda kardane ozv az beyne ashnaha
eideh va rah hale khobi bood.be nazar man mohemtarin
kar sakht WEB PAGE ast,age farz konim 10 nafar az ozv
ha  hadaksar bekhan TEL bezanan hala 5 daghighe 7
daghighe ziad farg nemikone.

ba tashakor
Amin Mahmudian
--- Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@...> wrote:

> hame midonan <

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Sohrab & Team aziz salam,

az inke nazarat va pishnahad ha toon ro dadid
mamnonam,man be onvan kasi ke mikhad bezodi vared in
bazar kar beshe(bazar IRAN),kheyli khoshhal misham dar
mored tajrobe ha va nazar hay shoma bishtar baray ma
sohbat konid,fekr konam baghie ham estefade konand
(albate fekr konam) bazam mamnoon.
*Note : faghat dar mored Type finglishi(!)lotfan
bishtar deghat konid ta ma rahat tar manzoretoon ro
befahmim.
ghorbane shoma
Amin Mahmudian
--- sohrab asadzadeh <sasadzadeh@...> wrote:

> salam bar hamegi makhsosan rosso aziz
> az inkeh be nameh man tavajoh karden va barash chand
> bar javab neveshtin mamnon
> rastesh man khili baray javad dadan be nameh shoma
> fekr kardam
> midonin ma dar iran moshkelatemon kami ba jahay
> degeh fargh dareh
> vali man mikham be sorat kami elmi bahash barkhord
> konam
> hamontory keh goftam man ghabla chanta projeh az
> kharej gerefteh bodam keh moteasefaneh dar zaman
> ejra mamolan be man bad gholi mishod va vaghty ro z
> akhar mishod man hamash bayad az in var be onvar
> shahr miraftam ta kar tamom besheh ya inkeh khodam e
> ghesmaty ro anjam midadam
> in keh e kare be daghegh 90 mimoneh masaleh iran
> nist va dar kol jahan vojod dareh
> dar ghanon parkinson migeh har projeh be andazeh
> zamanesh tol mikesheh
> yani age e projeh 2 mah kar dareh va shoma begin 2
> sal bazam toy 2 sal anjam misheh na to 2 mah
> baresy neshon dadeh keh in elat asli emprator saze
> hastesh
> yani inkeh taraf baray inkeh bazdeh sherkat 2
> barabar besheh karmandaro 2 barabar mikoneh vali
> bazdeh hamon mimoneh ya kami avaz misheh
> dar kol donya sar shodeh in masalaro hal konan va
> koli ham ghanon barash gozashtan
> vali ma dar iran be in rahaty nemitonim hal konim
> shayad elatesh kami dor az zehn basheh vali e elat
> sadeh hastesh
> fayol dar 14 asl khodesh migeh bayad moder ekhteyar
> dashteh basheh
> yani inkeh betoneh dastor bedeh va darstoresh ro ba
> komak padash va tanbeh be ejra dar beyareh
> vali ma ino dar iran aslan nadareh
> key migeh dar iran hameh donbal kar hastan
> key megeh dar iran mohandesa be kar hastan
> kasy keh kar anadareh mireh har kare mikoneh
> dar hali keh dar iran afrad raze be kar kardan
> nistan
>
> age shoma e projeh be kase beden va on dar zamanesh
> anjam nadeh chikar mitonin bokonin?
> hoghogh nemiden
> khob naden ,, vaghan fekr mikonin farghi
> mikoneh??????
> na aslan
> chon ma dar iran aslan arzeshi baray pol ghael
> nistim
> albateh beshtar afrad besyar sharef hastan va har
> man ba afrad bad ghol hastesh va khaesh mikonam
> irani hay khosh gol narahat nashan
>
> moshkel asle dar iran in hastesh keh moder ghodrat
> tanbeh nadareh chon age bekhad kare koneh fard khaty
> zerr hameh chiz mizeneh
> dashtan gharardad va check va ... hameh alanki
> hastesh
> e gharar dad faghat e safeh kaghaz hastesh keh be
> khater kami neveshteh rosh batel shodeh va age
> bekhad kasy eghdami koneh bayad salha donbal on
> bereh shayad javabi begereh
> dar keshvare keh check bargashty hich etebary
> nadareh vaghan e gharar dad mani dareh?
>
> dar har hal mozoy bahs zaman ande projeh hastesh
> dar iran bayad moder hamesheh chand hafteh zodtar az
> zaman payan karo takmil koeh va chand nafar ro to ab
> namak negar dareh keh age kasy bad gholi kard az ona
> estefadeh koneh
>
> omid varam roze bereseh keh dar iran ham hameh be
> fekr zaman bashan va age mohandesy bad gholi kard
> bedoneh hameh jay khabar dar mishan va behesh kar
> nemidan,, baray hamin kamtar bad gholi koneh
> mazerat mikham sareton ro dard avordam
> rasty in asami va mataleb baray ketab aghay rezayy (
> nazareh hay sazmani va moderayat ) hastesh keh
> majbor shodam baray yad giri modereyat bekhodanam
>
> ,,
> rasty agha rosso
> man ghablan ela amadegim ro kardam baray har goneh
> komaki age kare basheh dar khedmatam
> age mibinin javab bazy az nameh ha ro ham der der
> midem be khater sangin bodan matalebi hast keh shoma
> migin va ma hameh dost darem dar har kary keh az
> dastemon bar miyad komak konin
> ghablan rezomeh mano deden, khodeton age kare bod
> keh betonam komak konam befarmaeed khoshal misham
> e pishnehad ham baray kara daram
> age dost dashteh bashin va inkeh hamdegaro beshtar
> beshnasem e chat room gharar bezarem va e sa'at
> khasy az roz keh hameh dor ham jam shim
> omid varam chenin zamani jr besheh
> ba tshakor az shoma va tamam dostani keh komak
> mikonan
> be omid dedar
> Sohrab
>
> amin mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@...> wrote:
> salam be hame,
>
> man daneshjoo hastam va hanooz projeh rasmi baray
> jayi
> nadashtam, vali harfay BOOS bram kheyli jaleb bood
> chand ta nokte be nazaram resid :
> dar mored kelas va daneshgah goftid,man alan ke vagt
> emtehan hast fekr mikonam mibinam agar in ravesh ro
> ejra mikardam kheyli baram khob bood,vali agar man
> ye
> rozi ostade ye jayi shodam hatman in ravesho
> entekhab
> mikonam,ham baray khodam rahattare ham baray
> daneshjo
> ha,masalan ma vasat term yek dafe ostad miad mige
> hafte dige ya do hafte dige emtehane,hala ma onrooz
> emtehan dashte bashim ya harchi.
>
> ye rooz chand sale pish ke aghay Khatami reis
> jomhoor,rafte bood USA baray sokhanrani dar UN,ke
> hamoon vaght baray IRANi ha dar USA ham sokhanrani
> dasht,goft mohajerat yeki az rahhay goftegoy
> tamadonhast, man ba khodam goftam baray ma ke dakhel
> hastm chetoor mitone mofid bashe,behar hal goftegoo
> do
> tarafe ast,ba in sohbat hay agay Rosso hala
> mifahmam,man fekr mikonam ma be onvam gheshr tahsil
> karde bayad baray pishraft keshvaremoon bishtar va
> behtar kar konim,chon be har hal ma az sarmaie hay
> in
> keshvar be inja residim va masoliat darim,man yek
> shoar baray khodam daram ke hamishe behesh amal
> mikonam ke : AGE AZ CHIZI NARAHATI GHOR NAZAN
> AVAZAESH
> KON.shayad kheyli chiza ro nashe alan avaz kard,vali
> mesl parvaz mimone,alan age dar mored behtarin
> havapeyma ha ham bekhan sohbat konand aval filme
> onai
> ro neshon midan ke ba bali ke ba par dorost karde mi
> khast bepare.ma ye ostad dashtim baray yeki az
> darsamoon dar bare vejdan mohandesi sohbat mikard
> mesl
> hamin vaght shenasi,khodesh migoft ye projeh
> gereftam
> ta tarikh 2 hafte dige hanooz shoro
> nakardam.manzoram
> ine ke age chizi garare avaz beshe khodemoon bayad
> avazesh konim hala shayad 30-40 sal tool bekeshe
> vali
> sale 1410 masalan dige in moshke vojod nadare.
> merci,mibakhshid ziad neveshtam
> Amin Mahmudian
>
> --- Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@...>
> wrote:
>
> > Ba Salam,
> >
> > Ba Hamid yeki az dosstan faal aziz, mozoh vaght
> > shenassi va daghigh boodan dar massael roozaneh
> dar
> > email mored bahss bood.
> >
> > Ba Sohrab aziz yeki digar az dosstan aziz dar in
> > goroh dar mored beh mogheh tahvil dadan projeh dar
> > yek email mored bahss bood keh ishan migoftand keh
> > dar chand projeh keh barayeh yek sherkati dar
> kharej
> > az Iran anjam dadand tajroobeh khobi nadashtand va
> > jaryan beh daghighe 90 va penalty keshideh shood.
> >
> > Gooftam shayad behtar bashad bahss ra beh goroh va
> > omomi bekeshim bebinim tajroobeh digar dosstan chi
> > boodeh ? Aya shoma halati ra soragh darid dar Iran
> > ya kharej Iran keh projeh beh mogheh va tarikhi
> keh
> > gofteh shoodeh anjam shoodeh ? Agar areh, dalayel
> > moafaghiat an beh nazar shooam chi boodeh ? Agar
> > nah, dalayel shekasst ? Beh nazar shooma chekar
> > bayad kard keh yek projeh dar har farhangi beh
> > mogheh tahvil dadeh shavad ? Mitonid dar inja
> > nazaretan ra begoyid ya khaterat khoob ya bad dar
> in
> > mored ra benevissid.
> >
> > Ghabl az shoma agar man az tajaroob khodam
> begoyam,
> > tajaroobi keh daram dar projeh hayeh mokhtalef dar
> > keshvar hayeh mokhtalef va ba farhang hayeh
> > mokhtalef boodeh. Fekr mikonam in tanha ma Irani
> ha
> > nisstim ba zaman moshkel darim, hamangooneh keh
> > goftam bisthar afradi keh az Khavar mianeh va
> > manategh atraf didam moshkel darand. Baad dar
> Oropa
> > harchi payin tar va jonob tar miravid in moshkel
> > bishtar mishavad. Massalan jonoob Europa
> keshvarhayi
> > messl Italia, Espania, Portugal, Jonob fransseh,
>
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agha salmanzadeh yeh zaram az manabeyeh dakhelei estefadeh konid bad nist bekhoda

Salam,

 

Yeki az dosstan dar goroh dar emaili porssideh boodand keh chegoneh mishe SIS file dorosst kard va etelaat dar in mored ra az koja mishe peyda kard ?

 

Khoob shood yek soal tekniki dashtim in chand vaght hamash gheyr tekniki harf zadim dar in goroh yek kam tanavoo ham mishavad. Albateh messl inkeh az natayej nazar sanji ta hala maloom mishe doosstan badeshoon nemiayad harfhayeh gheyr symbian va massalan dar mored PROJECT MANAGEMENT va DEADLINE va TIME va gheyreh ham bezanim.

 

Vali khoob shayad ghati az in doota basheh khoobeh keh yek joor nabashad va khassteh nashim, tanavooh dashteh bashim.

 

Hala bargardim beh sakhtan SIS, man ghablan tassmim dashtam in ra kheyli daghigh dar telefon neshoon bedam vali baadan didim safheh telefon ra beh in rahati nemishe toyeh television neshoon dad va dasstgah hayeh ezafi ehtiaj asst.

 

Hala dar gooftar 6 ya 7 dar DVD ha neshoon midam chegoneh az kamputer beh telefon ba IR montaghel miseh va install mikonim.

 

Barayeh inkeh bebinid chegooneh SIS dorosst konid dar SDK ghessmat Search benevissid : "SIS" chandin document neshoon mideh keh yeki dar zir asst beh onvan nemooneh baratoon gozashtam.

 

Behtarin kar in asst keh yek Hello World ba Visual C++ va Series 60 WIZARD (dar mashaghel.com/symbian rojoh konid keh chegooneh WIZARD ra install konid) dorosst konid keh khodash baratoon yek file PACKAGE dorosst mikonad keh mibinid chi toosh migozarad keh baad barayeh barnameh khoodetan gheyr az hello world hamoon kar ha ra bekonid.

 

Beh toor kol kholasseh konam kar hayi keh bayad anjam dahid dar zir minevissam:

 

1. Yek file ba EXTENSION .pkg dorosst konid beh soorat TEXT. Chi toosh bayad benevissid mitoonid az yek Hello World keh ba Wizard sakhtid negah konid, havassetan bashad keh UID va halati keh WIZARD missazad momken asst ba EXAMPLE keh darid fargh konad. Va neshoon mideh keh ba cheh version SDK kar mikonad. WIZARD mamoolan doroosst tar asst agar sar dorahi boodid keh Wizard ra negah konid ya EXAMPLE ra beh messal dar WIZARD negah konid.

 

2. Motmaen bashid keh barnameh tan ra barayeh THUMB sakhtid :

 

abld build thumb

 

Choon vaghti SIS dorosst mishe file hayeh sakhteh shoodeh barayeh THUMB keh HARDWARE asst ra bar midarad va nah file hayi keh barayeh WINDOWS (wins) sakhtid. Agar in kar ra nakoonid Error migirid vaghti SIS missazid migoyad felan file ra peyda nemikonad.

 

3. Hala mitoonid SIS file dorosst konid az package file manand zir :

 

makesis HelloWorld.pkg

 

4. Agar error nagereftid yek SIS file dorosst mishe massalan HelloWorld.sis

 

5. Hala kafi asst in SIS file ra toori az kamputer beh telefon montaghel konid. Massalan email konid beh telefon (agar telefon email va DATA ACCOUNT vassl bashad). Ya rahat tarin az tarigh IR (INFRA RED) asst. Barayeh in kar bayad kamputeretan IR dashteh bashad, mamoolan hameh Laptop ha darand.

 

Miravid toyeh telefon ghessmat IR (mamoolan dar COMMUNICATION) royeh IR klick mikonid va neshoon mideh ENABLE ya DISABLE keh shoma faalash mikonid ba entekhab kardan ENABLED. Baad sari migozarid roberoyeh shisheyeh IR kamputeretan.

 

Motmaen bashid DRIVER hayeh IR dar kamputer etan ghablan INSTALL Shodeh va faal asst. Massalan agar yek kamputer laptop Toshiba, Tecra 8100 darid mitoonid berid beh site Toshiba.com donbal DRIVER begardid barayeh model khodetoon va IR driver ra download va install konid. Ya momken asst ALREADY install shodeh bashad va amadeh bashad.

 

Beh har hal Vaghti telefon ra IR ash ra faal kardid va roberoyeh shishe IR kamputer gozashtid Windows IR ash rah mioftad va messl FILE BROWSER neshoon mideh keh kodoom file ra mikhahid befresstid. Keh in file Helloworld.sis ra entekhab mikonid va oon sari mifresstad toyeh telefonetan.

 

Hala telefon bogh mizanad keh yek file jadid daryaft shoodeh mikhayid install konid ? Migoyid areh. Baad migoyad UNTRUSTED asst mikhahid bazam install konid migoyid areh va install mishe. Hala ICON hello world ra dar list barnameh ha khahid did va agar rosh klick konid barnameh ra miranad. Agar vaghti click kardid gooft "System Error" mamoolan RESOURCE file dorosst compile nashoodeh keh PACKAGE ra dorosst check konid keh PATH ra dorosst dadeh id.

 

Rah hayeh digar keh mitonid az computer SIS ra beh telefon befresstid az tarigh MMC Card asst yani in Kart hayeh kochak Memory keh Memory READER beh kamputer vassl mikonid va aval SIS file ra beh in memory card montaghel mikonid baad MMC card ra bar midarid va migozarid toyeh Telefon va baad ba FILE BROWSER dar telefon royeh MMC miravid va royeh SIS file click mikonid keh INSTALLATION shoro mikonad va haman soal ha ra azetan miporssad va install mishe.

 

Ya inkeh mitoonid az tarigh Bluetooth az computer beh telefon befresstid. Keh mamoolan telefon ha bluetooth darand vali computer ha bayad kart makhssoss beh computer vassl konid messl oon karthayeh PCMCI keh anten darad va amvaj Radioyi az kamputer beh telefon mifresstad.

 

Omidvaram etelaat kafi bashad va betonid az tarigh an SIS khood ra dorosst konid va beh telefon montaghel konid. Khabari bedahid keh kar kard ya nah va agar moshkel dashtid.

 

Ba tashakoor

Rosso Salmanzadeh

 

Dar zir ghessmati as SDK keh dar in mored toozih mideh:

 

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 » Symbian OS v6.1 Edition for C++ » Tools And Utilities » Installation Guide » How to create a simple installation file

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How to create a simple installation file

The simplest installation file is one which bundles the files of an application, and installs them to a specified location on the Symbian OS phone. The installation will not support multilingual files, secure installation, or display text or run a program at install time. The process is:

1. Create a text file with extension .pkg.

2. Specify the package header. In the simplest installation this consists of the application’s name, its UID, and its major, minor and build numbers.

3. Specify the source location of files which should be installed and their destination on the target machine.

4. Invoke the Installation File Generator on the package file.

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Example

The project file for a minimal installation is provided in epoc32ex\ToolsAndUtilities\HelloWorld.pkg. A listing of the file is given below:

#{"Minimal application"},(0x10004299),1,0,0
; Only two files to install for the minimal application
"HelloWorld.app"-"!:\system\apps\HelloWorld\HelloWorld.app"
"HelloWorld.rsc"-"!:\system\apps\HelloWorld\HelloWorld.rsc"

The package header defines the application’s name “Minimal application”, UID (0x10004299) ,major and minor build numbers (1 , 0) and the build number (0). The second line, preceded by a semi-colon, is a comment. The final two lines specify the location of the files which should be put in the installation file, and their destination on the target machine.

To create the installation file HelloWorld.sis, invoke the Installation File Generator on the package file:

makesis HelloWorld.pkg

HelloWorld.sis can then be installed on the target machine. After installation the application may be run by selecting the HelloWorld icon on the extras bar.

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Notes

• The UID is a unique number, used by Symbian OS to specify the application. For more information on the UID, review the documentation for your SDK (C++, OPL, Java).

• Relative path names should be used to specify source files. By default .sis files are compressed. If the NOCOMPRESS option is set then the Software Installer uses the filename directly. The .sis file will have a relative path which will result in a "Bad name" error when the .sis file is installed. This will happen with the PC installer and Symbian OS installer. The full path should be specified, as the .pkg file will result in a "Bad name" error when the .sis file is installed.

• The application's major and minor version numbers are required for version control (e.g. AppName 3.1 specifies a major build 3, and minor build 1).

• The build number is generally incremented whenever the component is rebuilt.

• Lines preceded by a semicolon are comments. These are not used by the Installation File Generator as part of the build process.

• The target drive is (probably) selected by the user. This is indicated in the pkg file by specifying ! as the destination drive, rather than, for example, c:.

• If directories in the installation path do not exist, they are automatically created by the Symbian OS Installer.

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>agha salmanzadeh yeh zaram az manabeyeh dakhelei estefadeh konid bad nist bekhoda

Man keh harfi nadaram. Nemidonesstam shoma dosstan dar aboutsymbian.com dar in mored toozih dadeh id. Vagarnah kerm keh nadashtam yek saat ham sar khodam ham dasst khodam ra dard beyavaram inja toozih benevissam

Dar zemn man keh az manba khareji keh nagoftam az khood SDK inja gozashtam keh manbah assli Series 60 asst. Kheyli ham az site shoma begoyam yek dafeh momken asst dosstani eteraz konand keh agha chera parti bazi mikonid az in ya oon site migoyid, man bayad say konam kheyli bi taraf amal konam inja. Banabarin shayad rahat tarin rah in asst choon shoma mataleb an site ra behtar az man midanid keh chi hasst chi nisst, har vaght man chizi inja goftam shoma didid oonja ham toozihat takmili hasst mitonid REPLY bezanid va link bedahid doostan khasstand rojo konand. Injoori digeh hameh razi khahand bood va jayeh gelayeh ham az kassi nakhahad bood

Salam man khastam dar takmileh sohbateh aghayeh salman zadeh link bedam keh moteasefaneh servereh site aboutsymbian down shodeh vali khob dar in mored magalei darim royeh site www.aboutsymbian.com dar bakhsheh Barnameh nevisi> Maghalat keh chegoneh yeh file SIS besazid .

bad nist shayad be dardeh doostan bokhoreh.

agha salmanzadeh yeh zaram az manabeyeh dakhelei estefadeh konid bad nist bekhoda

Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@...> wrote:

Salam,

 

Yeki az dosstan dar goroh dar emaili porssideh boodand keh chegoneh mishe SIS file dorosst kard va etelaat dar in mored ra az koja mishe peyda kard ?

 

Khoob shood yek soal tekniki dashtim in chand vaght hamash gheyr tekniki harf zadim dar in goroh yek kam tanavoo ham mishavad. Albateh messl inkeh az natayej nazar sanji ta hala maloom mishe doosstan badeshoon nemiayad harfhayeh gheyr symbian va massalan dar mored PROJECT MANAGEMENT va DEADLINE va TIME va gheyreh ham bezanim.

 

Vali khoob shayad ghati az in doota basheh khoobeh keh yek joor nabashad va khassteh nashim, tanavooh dashteh bashim.

 

Hala bargardim beh sakhtan SIS, man ghablan tassmim dashtam in ra kheyli daghigh dar telefon neshoon bedam vali baadan didim safheh telefon ra beh in rahati nemishe toyeh television neshoon dad va dasstgah hayeh ezafi ehtiaj asst.

 

Hala dar gooftar 6 ya 7 dar DVD ha neshoon midam chegoneh az kamputer beh telefon ba IR montaghel miseh va install mikonim.

 

Barayeh inkeh bebinid chegooneh SIS dorosst konid dar SDK ghessmat Search benevissid : "SIS" chandin document neshoon mideh keh yeki dar zir asst beh onvan nemooneh baratoon gozashtam.

 

Behtarin kar in asst keh yek Hello World ba Visual C++ va Series 60 WIZARD (dar mashaghel.com/symbian rojoh konid keh chegooneh WIZARD ra install konid) dorosst konid keh khodash baratoon yek file PACKAGE dorosst mikonad keh mibinid chi toosh migozarad keh baad barayeh barnameh khoodetan gheyr az hello world hamoon kar ha ra bekonid.

 

Beh toor kol kholasseh konam kar hayi keh bayad anjam dahid dar zir minevissam:

 

1. Yek file ba EXTENSION .pkg dorosst konid beh soorat TEXT. Chi toosh bayad benevissid mitoonid az yek Hello World keh ba Wizard sakhtid negah konid, havassetan bashad keh UID va halati keh WIZARD missazad momken asst ba EXAMPLE keh darid fargh konad. Va neshoon mideh keh ba cheh version SDK kar mikonad. WIZARD mamoolan doroosst tar asst agar sar dorahi boodid keh Wizard ra negah konid ya EXAMPLE ra beh messal dar WIZARD negah konid.

 

2. Motmaen bashid keh barnameh tan ra barayeh THUMB sakhtid :

 

abld build thumb

 

Choon vaghti SIS dorosst mishe file hayeh sakhteh shoodeh barayeh THUMB keh HARDWARE asst ra bar midarad va nah file hayi keh barayeh WINDOWS (wins) sakhtid. Agar in kar ra nakoonid Error migirid vaghti SIS missazid migoyad felan file ra peyda nemikonad.

 

3. Hala mitoonid SIS file dorosst konid az package file manand zir :

 

makesis HelloWorld.pkg

 

4. Agar error nagereftid yek SIS file dorosst mishe massalan HelloWorld.sis

 

5. Hala kafi asst in SIS file ra toori az kamputer beh telefon montaghel konid. Massalan email konid beh telefon (agar telefon email va DATA ACCOUNT vassl bashad). Ya rahat tarin az tarigh IR (INFRA RED) asst. Barayeh in kar bayad kamputeretan IR dashteh bashad, mamoolan hameh Laptop ha darand.

 

Miravid toyeh telefon ghessmat IR (mamoolan dar COMMUNICATION) royeh IR klick mikonid va neshoon mideh ENABLE ya DISABLE keh shoma faalash mikonid ba entekhab kardan ENABLED. Baad sari migozarid roberoyeh shisheyeh IR kamputeretan.

 

Motmaen bashid DRIVER hayeh IR dar kamputer etan ghablan INSTALL Shodeh va faal asst. Massalan agar yek kamputer laptop Toshiba, Tecra 8100 darid mitoonid berid beh site Toshiba.com donbal DRIVER begardid barayeh model khodetoon va IR driver ra download va install konid. Ya momken asst ALREADY install shodeh bashad va amadeh bashad.

 

Beh har hal Vaghti telefon ra IR ash ra faal kardid va roberoyeh shishe IR kamputer gozashtid Windows IR ash rah mioftad va messl FILE BROWSER neshoon mideh keh kodoom file ra mikhahid befresstid. Keh in file Helloworld.sis ra entekhab mikonid va oon sari mifresstad toyeh telefonetan.

 

Hala telefon bogh mizanad keh yek file jadid daryaft shoodeh mikhayid install konid ? Migoyid areh. Baad migoyad UNTRUSTED asst mikhahid bazam install konid migoyid areh va install mishe. Hala ICON hello world ra dar list barnameh ha khahid did va agar rosh klick konid barnameh ra miranad. Agar vaghti click kardid gooft "System Error" mamoolan RESOURCE file dorosst compile nashoodeh keh PACKAGE ra dorosst check konid keh PATH ra dorosst dadeh id.

 

Rah hayeh digar keh mitonid az computer SIS ra beh telefon befresstid az tarigh MMC Card asst yani in Kart hayeh kochak Memory keh Memory READER beh kamputer vassl mikonid va aval SIS file ra beh in memory card montaghel mikonid baad MMC card ra bar midarid va migozarid toyeh Telefon va baad ba FILE BROWSER dar telefon royeh MMC miravid va royeh SIS file click mikonid keh INSTALLATION shoro mikonad va haman soal ha ra azetan miporssad va install mishe.

 

Ya inkeh mitoonid az tarigh Bluetooth az computer beh telefon befresstid. Keh mamoolan telefon ha bluetooth darand vali computer ha bayad kart makhssoss beh computer vassl konid messl oon karthayeh PCMCI keh anten darad va amvaj Radioyi az kamputer beh telefon mifresstad.

 

Omidvaram etelaat kafi bashad va betonid az tarigh an SIS khood ra dorosst konid va beh telefon montaghel konid. Khabari bedahid keh kar kard ya nah va agar moshkel dashtid.

 

Ba tashakoor

Rosso Salmanzadeh

 

Dar zir ghessmati as SDK keh dar in mored toozih mideh:

 

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 » Symbian OS v6.1 Edition for C++ » Tools And Utilities » Installation Guide » How to create a simple installation file

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How to create a simple installation file

The simplest installation file is one which bundles the files of an application, and installs them to a specified location on the Symbian OS phone. The installation will not support multilingual files, secure installation, or display text or run a program at install time. The process is:

1. Create a text file with extension .pkg.

2. Specify the package header. In the simplest installation this consists of the application’s name, its UID, and its major, minor and build numbers.

3. Specify the source location of files which should be installed and their destination on the target machine.

4. Invoke the Installation File Generator on the package file.

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Example

The project file for a minimal installation is provided in epoc32ex\ToolsAndUtilities\HelloWorld.pkg. A listing of the file is given below:

#{"Minimal application"},(0x10004299),1,0,0
; Only two files to install for the minimal application
"HelloWorld.app"-"!:\system\apps\HelloWorld\HelloWorld.app"
"HelloWorld.rsc"-"!:\system\apps\HelloWorld\HelloWorld.rsc"

The package header defines the application’s name “Minimal application”, UID (0x10004299) ,major and minor build numbers (1 , 0) and the build number (0). The second line, preceded by a semi-colon, is a comment. The final two lines specify the location of the files which should be put in the installation file, and their destination on the target machine.

To create the installation file HelloWorld.sis, invoke the Installation File Generator on the package file:

makesis HelloWorld.pkg

HelloWorld.sis can then be installed on the target machine. After installation the application may be run by selecting the HelloWorld icon on the extras bar.

---

Notes

• The UID is a unique number, used by Symbian OS to specify the application. For more information on the UID, review the documentation for your SDK (C++, OPL, Java).

• Relative path names should be used to specify source files. By default .sis files are compressed. If the NOCOMPRESS option is set then the Software Installer uses the filename directly. The .sis file will have a relative path which will result in a "Bad name" error when the .sis file is installed. This will happen with the PC installer and Symbian OS installer. The full path should be specified, as the .pkg file will result in a "Bad name" error when the .sis file is installed.

• The application's major and minor version numbers are required for version control (e.g. AppName 3.1 specifies a major build 3, and minor build 1).

• The build number is generally incremented whenever the component is rebuilt.

• Lines preceded by a semicolon are comments. These are not used by the Installation File Generator as part of the build process.

• The target drive is (probably) selected by the user. This is indicated in the pkg file by specifying ! as the destination drive, rather than, for example, c:.

• If directories in the installation path do not exist, they are automatically created by the Symbian OS Installer.

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>agha salmanzadeh yeh zaram az manabeyeh dakhelei estefadeh konid bad nist bekhoda

 

Man keh harfi nadaram. Nemidonesstam shoma dosstan dar aboutsymbian.com dar in mored toozih dadeh id. Vagarnah kerm keh nadashtam yek saat ham sar khodam ham dasst khodam ra dard beyavaram inja toozih benevissam

 

Alan raftam royeh site etan bebinam dar in mored chi neveshteh id, messl inkeh hamangooneh keh goftid down asst. Hala doostan mitonand baadan rojo konand va bekhanand.

 

Dar zemn man keh az manba khareji keh nagoftam az khood SDK inja gozashtam keh manbah assli Series 60 asst. Kheyli ham az site shoma begoyam yek dafeh momken asst dosstani eteraz konand keh agha chera parti bazi mikonid az in ya oon site migoyid, man bayad say konam kheyli bi taraf amal konam inja. Banabarin shayad rahat tarin rah in asst choon shoma mataleb an site ra behtar az man midanid keh chi hasst chi nisst, har vaght man chizi inja goftam shoma didid oonja ham toozihat takmili hasst mitonid REPLY bezanid va link bedahid doostan khasstand rojo konand. Injoori digeh hameh razi khahand bood va jayeh gelayeh ham az kassi nakhahad bood

 

Felan

Rosso

"Payman M.Jaberi" <anfolanza_pmj@...> wrote:

Salam man khastam dar takmileh sohbateh aghayeh salman zadeh link bedam keh moteasefaneh servereh site aboutsymbian down shodeh vali khob dar in mored magalei darim royeh site www.aboutsymbian.com dar bakhsheh Barnameh nevisi> Maghalat keh chegoneh yeh file SIS besazid .

bad nist shayad be dardeh doostan bokhoreh.

agha salmanzadeh yeh zaram az manabeyeh dakhelei estefadeh konid bad nist bekhoda

Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@...> wrote:

Salam,

 

Yeki az dosstan dar goroh dar emaili porssideh boodand keh chegoneh mishe SIS file dorosst kard va etelaat dar in mored ra az koja mishe peyda kard ?

 

Khoob shood yek soal tekniki dashtim in chand vaght hamash gheyr tekniki harf zadim dar in goroh yek kam tanavoo ham mishavad. Albateh messl inkeh az natayej nazar sanji ta hala maloom mishe doosstan badeshoon nemiayad harfhayeh gheyr symbian va massalan dar mored PROJECT MANAGEMENT va DEADLINE va TIME va gheyreh ham bezanim.

 

Vali khoob shayad ghati az in doota basheh khoobeh keh yek joor nabashad va khassteh nashim, tanavooh dashteh bashim.

 

Hala bargardim beh sakhtan SIS, man ghablan tassmim dashtam in ra kheyli daghigh dar telefon neshoon bedam vali baadan didim safheh telefon ra beh in rahati nemishe toyeh television neshoon dad va dasstgah hayeh ezafi ehtiaj asst.

 

Hala dar gooftar 6 ya 7 dar DVD ha neshoon midam chegoneh az kamputer beh telefon ba IR montaghel miseh va install mikonim.

 

Barayeh inkeh bebinid chegooneh SIS dorosst konid dar SDK ghessmat Search benevissid : "SIS" chandin document neshoon mideh keh yeki dar zir asst beh onvan nemooneh baratoon gozashtam.

 

Behtarin kar in asst keh yek Hello World ba Visual C++ va Series 60 WIZARD (dar mashaghel.com/symbian rojoh konid keh chegooneh WIZARD ra install konid) dorosst konid keh khodash baratoon yek file PACKAGE dorosst mikonad keh mibinid chi toosh migozarad keh baad barayeh barnameh khoodetan gheyr az hello world hamoon kar ha ra bekonid.

 

Beh toor kol kholasseh konam kar hayi keh bayad anjam dahid dar zir minevissam:

 

1. Yek file ba EXTENSION .pkg dorosst konid beh soorat TEXT. Chi toosh bayad benevissid mitoonid az yek Hello World keh ba Wizard sakhtid negah konid, havassetan bashad keh UID va halati keh WIZARD missazad momken asst ba EXAMPLE keh darid fargh konad. Va neshoon mideh keh ba cheh version SDK kar mikonad. WIZARD mamoolan doroosst tar asst agar sar dorahi boodid keh Wizard ra negah konid ya EXAMPLE ra beh messal dar WIZARD negah konid.

 

2. Motmaen bashid keh barnameh tan ra barayeh THUMB sakhtid :

 

abld build thumb

 

Choon vaghti SIS dorosst mishe file hayeh sakhteh shoodeh barayeh THUMB keh HARDWARE asst ra bar midarad va nah file hayi keh barayeh WINDOWS (wins) sakhtid. Agar in kar ra nakoonid Error migirid vaghti SIS missazid migoyad felan file ra peyda nemikonad.

 

3. Hala mitoonid SIS file dorosst konid az package file manand zir :

 

makesis HelloWorld.pkg

 

4. Agar error nagereftid yek SIS file dorosst mishe massalan HelloWorld.sis

 

5. Hala kafi asst in SIS file ra toori az kamputer beh telefon montaghel konid. Massalan email konid beh telefon (agar telefon email va DATA ACCOUNT vassl bashad). Ya rahat tarin az tarigh IR (INFRA RED) asst. Barayeh in kar bayad kamputeretan IR dashteh bashad, mamoolan hameh Laptop ha darand.

 

Miravid toyeh telefon ghessmat IR (mamoolan dar COMMUNICATION) royeh IR klick mikonid va neshoon mideh ENABLE ya DISABLE keh shoma faalash mikonid ba entekhab kardan ENABLED. Baad sari migozarid roberoyeh shisheyeh IR kamputeretan.

 

Motmaen bashid DRIVER hayeh IR dar kamputer etan ghablan INSTALL Shodeh va faal asst. Massalan agar yek kamputer laptop Toshiba, Tecra 8100 darid mitoonid berid beh site Toshiba.com donbal DRIVER begardid barayeh model khodetoon va IR driver ra download va install konid. Ya momken asst ALREADY install shodeh bashad va amadeh bashad.

 

Beh har hal Vaghti telefon ra IR ash ra faal kardid va roberoyeh shishe IR kamputer gozashtid Windows IR ash rah mioftad va messl FILE BROWSER neshoon mideh keh kodoom file ra mikhahid befresstid. Keh in file Helloworld.sis ra entekhab mikonid va oon sari mifresstad toyeh telefonetan.

 

Hala telefon bogh mizanad keh yek file jadid daryaft shoodeh mikhayid install konid ? Migoyid areh. Baad migoyad UNTRUSTED asst mikhahid bazam install konid migoyid areh va install mishe. Hala ICON hello world ra dar list barnameh ha khahid did va agar rosh klick konid barnameh ra miranad. Agar vaghti click kardid gooft "System Error" mamoolan RESOURCE file dorosst compile nashoodeh keh PACKAGE ra dorosst check konid keh PATH ra dorosst dadeh id.

 

Rah hayeh digar keh mitonid az computer SIS ra beh telefon befresstid az tarigh MMC Card asst yani in Kart hayeh kochak Memory keh Memory READER beh kamputer vassl mikonid va aval SIS file ra beh in memory card montaghel mikonid baad MMC card ra bar midarid va migozarid toyeh Telefon va baad ba FILE BROWSER dar telefon royeh MMC miravid va royeh SIS file click mikonid keh INSTALLATION shoro mikonad va haman soal ha ra azetan miporssad va install mishe.

 

Ya inkeh mitoonid az tarigh Bluetooth az computer beh telefon befresstid. Keh mamoolan telefon ha bluetooth darand vali computer ha bayad kart makhssoss beh computer vassl konid messl oon karthayeh PCMCI keh anten darad va amvaj Radioyi az kamputer beh telefon mifresstad.

 

Omidvaram etelaat kafi bashad va betonid az tarigh an SIS khood ra dorosst konid va beh telefon montaghel konid. Khabari bedahid keh kar kard ya nah va agar moshkel dashtid.

 

Ba tashakoor

Rosso Salmanzadeh

 

Dar zir ghessmati as SDK keh dar in mored toozih mideh:

 

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 » Symbian OS v6.1 Edition for C++ » Tools And Utilities » Installation Guide » How to create a simple installation file

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How to create a simple installation file

The simplest installation file is one which bundles the files of an application, and installs them to a specified location on the Symbian OS phone. The installation will not support multilingual files, secure installation, or display text or run a program at install time. The process is:

1. Create a text file with extension .pkg.

2. Specify the package header. In the simplest installation this consists of the application’s name, its UID, and its major, minor and build numbers.

3. Specify the source location of files which should be installed and their destination on the target machine.

4. Invoke the Installation File Generator on the package file.

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Example

The project file for a minimal installation is provided in epoc32ex\ToolsAndUtilities\HelloWorld.pkg. A listing of the file is given below:

#{"Minimal application"},(0x10004299),1,0,0
; Only two files to install for the minimal application
"HelloWorld.app"-"!:\system\apps\HelloWorld\HelloWorld.app"
"HelloWorld.rsc"-"!:\system\apps\HelloWorld\HelloWorld.rsc"

The package header defines the application’s name “Minimal application”, UID (0x10004299) ,major and minor build numbers (1 , 0) and the build number (0). The second line, preceded by a semi-colon, is a comment. The final two lines specify the location of the files which should be put in the installation file, and their destination on the target machine.

To create the installation file HelloWorld.sis, invoke the Installation File Generator on the package file:

makesis HelloWorld.pkg

HelloWorld.sis can then be installed on the target machine. After installation the application may be run by selecting the HelloWorld icon on the extras bar.

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Notes

• The UID is a unique number, used by Symbian OS to specify the application. For more information on the UID, review the documentation for your SDK (C++, OPL, Java).

• Relative path names should be used to specify source files. By default .sis files are compressed. If the NOCOMPRESS option is set then the Software Installer uses the filename directly. The .sis file will have a relative path which will result in a "Bad name" error when the .sis file is installed. This will happen with the PC installer and Symbian OS installer. The full path should be specified, as the .pkg file will result in a "Bad name" error when the .sis file is installed.

• The application's major and minor version numbers are required for version control (e.g. AppName 3.1 specifies a major build 3, and minor build 1).

• The build number is generally incremented whenever the component is rebuilt.

• Lines preceded by a semicolon are comments. These are not used by the Installation File Generator as part of the build process.

• The target drive is (probably) selected by the user. This is indicated in the pkg file by specifying ! as the destination drive, rather than, for example, c:.

• If directories in the installation path do not exist, they are automatically created by the Symbian OS Installer.

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Rosso jan salam,

motassefaneh man linky dar nameh nadidam keh ba an beh
grouheh jadid vasl shavam vali brayeh har kari dar
khedmatam, albatteh ta jaee keh dar tavanam bashad.

Ghorbanat
Reza Modarres
--- Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@...> wrote:

> Salam beh doostan,
>
> Az goroh jadid Iranian TV Program email zir ra
> baratoon fresstadam keh kassani keh khasstand edameh
> dahand betoonim dar an goroh shoro konim.
>
> In goroh Symbian ra bishtar massael telefon va
> symbian negah midarim dar an goroh projeh digar ra
> donbal mikonim. Ozviat dar an goroh faghat ba
> APPROVAL va barayeh afrad dar team khahad bood.
>
> Br,
> Rosso
>
> _______________________________________
>
> Salam,
>
> Ma alan hodood 6 nafar (ba man 7) keh ehtemalan
> mikhahand edameh dahand va projeh i keh dar an
> barnameh TV baadan dorosst konim keh rabeteh ba
> motekhassessin va akhbar rooz tekniki, reportage va
> gheyreh ra ba ham beh soorat projeh rah beyandazim
> va Web site ra beh an CONNECT konim.
>
> Agar mikhahid Cancel konim mitoonim in kar ra
> bekonim. Agar mikhahid edameh bedim va ba WEB site
> shoro konim, mitonim dar in goroh jadid ozv shavid
> va dar in goroh kar projeh ra edameh dahim.
>
> In goroh digar manand goroh symbian hameh
> nemitavanand ozv shavand faghat afradi keh dar in
> projeh hasstand keh bahssha tekniki va moshakhass
> asst va CHAT va gheyreh khahad bood.
>
> Agar mikhahid edameh dahid ozviat ra ghabool konid
> keh shoro konim. Agar ozviat ra ghabool nakardid
> yani nemikhahid edameh dahid.
>
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aghaye rosso salam,

man ham manand aghaye modarres aziz natavanestam linki
bebinam va az hamin alan baraye hamkari elam amadegi
mikonam

ba tashakor
alireza pasandeh


--- Reza Modarres <rmodarres@...> wrote:

>
> Rosso jan salam,
>
> motassefaneh man linky dar nameh nadidam keh ba an
> beh
> grouheh jadid vasl shavam vali brayeh har kari dar
> khedmatam, albatteh ta jaee keh dar tavanam bashad.
>
> Ghorbanat
> Reza Modarres
> --- Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@...>
> wrote:
>
> > Salam beh doostan,
> >
> > Az goroh jadid Iranian TV Program email zir ra
> > baratoon fresstadam keh kassani keh khasstand
> edameh
> > dahand betoonim dar an goroh shoro konim.
> >
> > In goroh Symbian ra bishtar massael telefon va
> > symbian negah midarim dar an goroh projeh digar ra
> > donbal mikonim. Ozviat dar an goroh faghat ba
> > APPROVAL va barayeh afrad dar team khahad bood.
> >
> > Br,
> > Rosso
> >
> > _______________________________________
> >
> > Salam,
> >
> > Ma alan hodood 6 nafar (ba man 7) keh ehtemalan
> > mikhahand edameh dahand va projeh i keh dar an
> > barnameh TV baadan dorosst konim keh rabeteh ba
> > motekhassessin va akhbar rooz tekniki, reportage
> va
> > gheyreh ra ba ham beh soorat projeh rah beyandazim
> > va Web site ra beh an CONNECT konim.
> >
> > Agar mikhahid Cancel konim mitoonim in kar ra
> > bekonim. Agar mikhahid edameh bedim va ba WEB site
> > shoro konim, mitonim dar in goroh jadid ozv shavid
> > va dar in goroh kar projeh ra edameh dahim.
> >
> > In goroh digar manand goroh symbian hameh
> > nemitavanand ozv shavand faghat afradi keh dar in
> > projeh hasstand keh bahssha tekniki va moshakhass
> > asst va CHAT va gheyreh khahad bood.
> >
> > Agar mikhahid edameh dahid ozviat ra ghabool konid
> > keh shoro konim. Agar ozviat ra ghabool nakardid
> > yani nemikhahid edameh dahid.
> >
> > Ba tashakoor.
> > Rosso Salmanzadeh
> >
> >
> >
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Salam bar Sohrab va doostan aziz,

 

Sohrab jan massael kheyli khoobi ra matrah kardi va fekr konam tir zadi mosstaghim toyeh khal. Man royeh massaeli keh gofti fekr kardam va say kardam moghayesseh konam ba MODEL ha va system hayi keh dar keshvar hayeh digar ddiam keh bebinam chera oonja ha kar mikonad dar Iran kar nemikonad, yek ide jaleb barayeh yek sherkat jaleb beh nazaram amad keh agar kassi in sherkat ra dar Iran bezanad na tanha hezaran balkeh million ha nafar ra mashghool beh kar mikonad va moshkelat ra hal mikonad va nah tanha nassl kononi balkeh nasslhayeh ayandeh sar ghabresh hezaran salavat mifresstand choon moshkel bozorgi ra hal kardeh.

 

Etelaat bishtar dar mored in ide ra dar payin dar edameh sohbat hayeh shoma midahaham.

 

Pass agar imozoh hayeh shoma ra kholasseh konam beh 3 ghessmat asst keh dar payin man toozihati minevissam:

 

1. Ghanoon Parkinson

2. Ghodrat ejrayi raiss sherkat ya projeh   => Idee barayeh sherkat va kari jadid

3. Bargharari CHAT

 

Dar payin nazarat khodam ra dar in mored minevissam.

 

Ba tashakoor

Rosso Salmanzadeh

 

sohrab asadzadeh <sasadzadeh@...> wrote:

salam bar hamegi makhsosan rosso aziz

az inkeh be nameh man tavajoh karden va barash chand bar javab neveshtin mamnon

rastesh man khili baray javad dadan be nameh shoma fekr kardam

midonin ma dar iran moshkelatemon kami ba jahay degeh fargh dareh

vali man mikham be sorat kami elmi bahash barkhord konam

hamontory keh goftam man ghabla chanta projeh az kharej gerefteh bodam keh moteasefaneh dar zaman ejra mamolan be man bad gholi mishod va vaghty ro z akhar mishod man hamash bayad az in var be onvar shahr miraftam ta kar tamom besheh ya inkeh khodam e ghesmaty ro anjam midadam

in keh e kare be daghegh 90 mimoneh masaleh iran nist va dar kol jahan vojod dareh

dar ghanon parkinson migeh har projeh be andazeh zamanesh tol mikesheh

yani age e projeh 2 mah kar dareh va shoma begin 2 sal bazam toy 2 sal anjam misheh na to 2 mah

 

Man fekr konam dar jahayeh mokhtalef jahan MODEL hayeh mokhtalef adam mibinad keh beh farhang oon keshvar ha bishtar mikhorad. Massalan in massaleh i keh shoma goftid dar sherkathayeh Asiayi manand Samsung, LG va gheyreh man ziad didam. Ma yek projeh i keh anjam midadim ba yeki az inha, kari ra keh ma barayeh sherkathayeh ziadi anjam dadeh boodim va midanesstim 6 mah tool mikeshad, inha migoftand akhar mah digar bayad amadeh bashad.

 

Man migoftam nemishe, ma in kar ra ta hala 5 bar anjam dadim va inghadar tool mikeshad nemitoonid 1 maheh anjam dahid. Migoftand har cheghadar afrad va mohandess mikhahid ma dar ekhtiaretan migozarim va har cheghadar pool mikhahid vali bayad akhar mah digar amadeh bashad. Khoob badish in asst keh Raiss ha in harf ra beshnavand va booyeh pool beh damagheshan bekhorad feshar beh ENGINEERING va team mohandessi miavarand keh areh khoob yek maheh tamoomash konid. Vali in PROJECT MANAGER asst keh bayad joloyeh in feshar ha ra begirad va ghodrat TEAM khood ra bedanad va bedoonad keh che moodat tool mikeshad ta tahvil bedahand va che emkanati darand.

 

Beh har hal man beh shokhi be in afrad migoftam oon massal maroof ra shenideh id keh (ba arz maazarat az khanoom haye ozv in goroh) mamoolan ba yek khanoom 9 mah tool mikeshad keh yek bacheh bedoonya beyayad, hala shooma agar 9 ta khanoom ra kenar ham begozarid yek bache 1 maheh bedonya nemiayad. Vali magar beh goosh inha miraft.

 

Baad ba yeki az MANAGER ha sohbat mikardam goftam jaryan chisst ? migoft akhe in ravesh ma asst, ma TOP MANAGEMENT va raiss bala midooneh 6 mah tool mikeshad, baad oon beh raiss payin khood migoyad 3 maheh bayad tahvil bedahid. Baad raiss payin beh zir dassti khoodash migoyad 2.5 mahe va oon beh mohandessin migoyad 1 mahe. Baad vaghti man mididam inha chegoneh projeh ra mirondand, mididid afrad darand shab ta sob khodeshan ra mikoshand 1 mahe tahvil dahand, kod kharab va ghati pati mishood va sar 1 mah migoftand amadeh asst, va raiss ham khoshhal keh harfash dorosst shodeh. Baad mididid 5 mah migozarand iradha ra dorosst konad keh mishood hamoon 6 mah avali, vali to in 6 mah pedar hameh ra dar avardeh messl SLAVE (bardeh) afrad 17, 18 saat dar rooz kar kardeh and.

 

In ravesh shayad dar keshvar hayeh asiayi va jahayi keh ravabet messl oon film hayeh Samurayi asst mishe anjam dad. Choon mibnid ravabet piramid va makhrooti asst yek mohandess arshad 5, 6 ta noche zir dasstash darad keh shayad bayad shoone hayeh taraf ra ham massage bedahand, kamputer ash ra rooshan konand, sim network ash ra vassl konand va har kodam ghessmati az kod ra migirand va minevissand.

 

In farhang dar sherkathayeh digar dar oropa va amrika kar nemikonad. Makhsoosan dar Oropa keh dar bishtar keshvar ha UNION va sandikayeh karmandan va mohandessin ghavi asst va az in karha shoma nemitoonid bekonid. Massalan dar Soed shoma bishtar az 150 saat ezafeh vaght karmandan nemitavanand dashteh bashand bishtar az an sandikayeh karmandan jolo miayad va karfarma bayad dalil bekhossoss dashteh bashad keh ba dar khasst khood karmand betonid 50 saat ya 100 saat digar ejazeh ezafeh vaght begirid.

 

Albateh dalil an in asst keh migoyand karfarma pedar karmand ra dar nayavarad keh azash kar ziadi bekeshad va karmand chizi natonad begoyad. Keh aghideh baadi nisst, bedin sorat mohithayeh kari moratab mishavad va beh bardeh dari tabdil nemishavad. Digar dalil in asst keh vaghti yek sherkat beh ezafeh vaght miressad keh bejayeh 8 saat dar rooz ehtiaj beh 10 ta 12 saat ezafeh vaght asst vaght an asst keh fardi jadid esstekhdam konand. Va bedin soorat dar jameh kar jadid bevojood miayad va in faghat tedad maadoodi nisstand keh kar darand. Keh az in nazar ham in kar mossbati asst.

 

Vali dar avaz karfarma yan migoyand in taraf keh in kar ra mikonad massalan 10 sal sabeghe ba C++ darad man nemitonam kass digar ra esstekhdam konam keh kar oon ra anjam dahad va in 4 saat ezafeh keh man az in fard migiram ehtiaj beh 10 saat az yek adam tazeh kar asst. Javab in sandika ha in asst keh khoob fard jadid keh esstekhdam mikonid bayad behesh dooreh bedahid va amoozesh va karhayeh kochak in fard ra beh in fard jadid bedahid keh ham nirooyeh jadid kar ra yad begirad va ham system amoozesh rah mioftad va in khood kar dar jameh bevojood miavarad.

 

Mamoolan karfarmayan moshkeleshan ra ba esstekhdam kontrakter ha va sherkathayeh CONSULTANT moshavereh i hal mikonand keh gheyr az karmandan mamooli in afrad ra esstekhdam mikonand choon ghanoon kontraktori ha ba karmand mamooli fargh mikonad va kami feshar beh kontraktor ha mishe avard. Mamoolan ham afrad bahoosh va ghavi baad az chand sal tajroobeh beh in sherkathayeh moshavereh i miravand choon hoghogh bishtari migirand vali khoob kareshan ham momken asst sakht tar bashad. Baad keh mossen shodand digar kheyli hal kar kardan nadarand va energy nadarand beh karmand mamooli tabdil mishavand keh oon mogheh ham kheyli azeshoon kari nemishe keshid bishtar halat tajroobeh i azeshan dar sherkat esstefaadeh mishavad.

 

Albateh in halat Soed keh yek kehsvar Socialissti asst va in sandika ha kheyli ghavi hasstand choon salian ziad barayeh hoghogh karmandan jangideh and. Nemooneh Fransseh kami beh halat va system ma dar Iran nazdik tar asst choon az nazar jamiat va bikari manand Iran asst, ghavanin ham messl Iran. Faghat oonja CGT va sandikashoon kami ghavi asst, keh hatman dideh id dar akhbar television har sal mibinid massalan parassdar ha rikhteh and to khiaban etessab ya tazahoorat barayeh ezafeh hoghogh, ya sal digar keshavarzan jonob fransseh ba teraktoor mirizand to khiaban va goojeh ha ra mirizand to khiaban barayeh mokhalefat ba vorood gojeh hayeh arzan az espania va gheyreh.

 

Oonja dar fransseh dalili keh shayad mojeb mishe afrad kar ra anjam dahand (albateh az nazar zaman daghigh messl keshvar hayeh shomal oropa nisstand va nazdik beh italiayi ha va ma irani ha hasstand az nazar vaght shenassi), dalil an mitooneh bikari bashad. yani agar ekhraj shavand digar gir avardan kar moshkel asst choon peyda kardan kar dar Fransseh messl gozashtan az haft khan roostam asst.

 

Dar Amrika jaryan fargh mikonad, choon CAPITALISM va sarmayeh dari keh dar ketab ha mikhondim kamel kamel asst. Yani hameh dasstanha Arzeh va taghaza asst keh ba pool moshakhass mishavad va tammam ghavanin door an door mizanad. Banbarin agar bazar toori bashad keh shoma karmand ziad natonid gir beyavarid manand sal hayeh 1999 - 2000 khoob shoma bayad naz karmand ra bekharid. Vali manand alan keh momken asst tedad ziad bikar ba oon tajroobeh toyeh khiaban bashand va afrad ham hazerand ba gheymat kam in kar ra dar Hend ya Chin anjam dahand khoob karfarmayan ehtiaj nisst ziad naz karmandan ra bekharand, taraf kheyli naz avard ba fardi az in afrad avaz mikonid. UNION va sandika ham keh dar in sherkat ha vojood nadarad banabarin ezafeh vaght va ejbar afrad beh kar ezafeh bassteh beh rahmat har sherkat va sharayet bazar darad.

 

Banabarin har koodam az in keshvar ha model khodeshan ra darand va Model Iran ra ham keh shoma farmoodid. Fekr konam hameh in model ha mitoonand yek makhrej moshtarak dashteh bashand keh dar hameh in model ha betavand kar konad va an ham barmigardad beh haman massaleh i keh shoma farmoodid dar payin keh afrad ghodrat ejrayi dashteh bashand keh in bahss ra dar payin edameh midim :

 

baresy neshon dadeh keh in elat asli emprator saze hastesh

yani inkeh taraf baray inkeh bazdeh sherkat 2 barabar besheh karmandaro 2 barabar mikoneh vali bazdeh hamon mimoneh ya kami avaz misheh

dar kol donya sar shodeh in masalaro hal konan va koli ham ghanon barash gozashtan

vali ma dar iran be in rahaty nemitonim hal konim

shayad elatesh kami dor az zehn basheh vali e elat sadeh hastesh

fayol dar 14 asl khodesh migeh bayad moder ekhteyar dashteh basheh

yani inkeh betoneh dastor bedeh va darstoresh ro ba komak padash va tanbeh be ejra dar beyareh

 

Mamoolan migoyad iradi keh vojood darad in asst keh PROJECT MANAGER (moodiriat projeh) royeh afrad ghodrati nadarad choon mamoolan shoma dar yek sherkat dar bazi model ha 2 nafar darid :

 

1. Line Manager (LM)

2. Project Manager (PM)

 

LM hamoon raiss adam asst keh massalan 20 ta 50 nafar dar bakhshhayeh mokhtalef momken asst zir dasstash kar konand. Kar LM in asst keh massalan morakhassi adam ra taid konad, amoozesh va kelass hayi keh adam bayad beravad tayid konad, omoor esstekhdam va ekhraj va gheyreh. Payan sal ba karmand beshinad va FORM APPRAISAL ra donbal konad keh hadaf karmand barayeh sal digar chisst va ahdaf emssal be koja ressidand, che chizha khoob bood chi bad bood va gheyreh.

 

PM va project manager yek projeh ra rah miandazad va LM hayeh mokhtalef mikhahad keh RESOURCE va afrad dar ekhtiarash begozarand. Yek PM ba chandin LM dar rabeteh khahad bood keh massalan az yek LM keh massool baksh NETWORKING asst yek NT ADMIN begirad. Az bakhsh DATABASE yek DATABASE ADMIN begirad az bakhs barnameh rizi 5, 6 ta barnameh riz begirad va gheyreh.

 

Hala eshkal in asst keh agar dar projeh in afrad kar nakonand, va beh mogheh tahvil nadahand in PM kari nemitavand bekonad va ekhraj konad choon oon ghodrat ejrayi nadarad va LM asst keh hagh ekhraj va esstekhdam ra darad. In massaelh i asst keh PM ha midoonand va beh ravesh hayeh mokhtalef ba an DEAL mikonand.

 

Behtarin raveshi keh man dideh am keh enssani asst (choon oon bardeh hayi keh ahram selasseh messr ra ham sakhtand projeh anjam shood vali shayad ba kotak va shalagh bood), rahi keh didam kar kardeh ba pool beh soorat BONUS ya STOCK va eshterak dar sherkat boodeh. Mamoolan yek projeh 2 saleh ra beh massalan 8 ghessmat (INCREMENT) taghsim mikonand va az aval barayeh har INCREMENT sharayet ENTRY (vorod) va EXIT (Khoroj ) migozarand. Massalan migoyand Increment 2 ra zamani mitavanim shoro konim keh in UML document ha va design amadeh bashad, in soal ha javab dadeh shodeh bashad va in afrad esstekhdam shodeh va kar bar gharar bashad. Baad Increment 2 khoroji ash ghabool mishe vaghti keh massalan tedad ERROR va irad hayi keh goroh TEST peyda kardeh and bayad 80% irad ha bartaraf shodeh bashad keh mamoolan migoyand RR (Run Rate) va PR (Pass Rate) chand darssad bashad. Massalan agar shoma darid HTTP Stack ra dar projeh dorosst mikonid aval projeh goroh test miayad 100 ta TEST CASE maloom mikonand hala baad az INCREMENT 2 keh gharar asst HTTP STACK amadeh bashad keh baad shoma beh massalan BROWSER (mororgar) dar INCREMENT 3 beravid. Bayad goroh test tonessteh bashad 80 ta az test hashoon ra randeh bashand RUN RATE = 80%  bad migoyid az in test ha keh roondand 90 darssad bayad OK bashad va PASSED kardeh bashad => Pass Rate = 90% (PR)

 

Injoori ghashang midoonid projeh va SOFTWARE va barnameh shoma dar che hadi va QUALITY hasst.

 

Hala in aadad ra dar projeh esstefadeh mikonid va migoyid massalan agar INCREMENT 2 dar 15 March EXIT kard hameh afrad dar projeh 100% BONUS va padash ra migirand keh in padash massalan mitonand 6% az hoghogh salaneh shan bashad.

 

Har hafteh keh az in tarikh 15 March begozarad shoma massalan 10% az BONUS va padash anha kam mikonad keh hafteh baad mishe 90%, 80% va haminjoor kam mishavad.

 

Injoori hameh gorohi kar mikonand va say mikonand keh projeh beh moghe anjam shavad va beh ham komak mikonand. Va kassi nemigoyad in ghessmat moshkel man nisst va moshkel akbar ya hassan asst beh man rabti nadarad. Hameh ba ham hamkari mikonand. va khodeshoon ra yek team ehssass mikonand.

 

In tanha raveshi asst keh man didam moafagh boodeh, ravesh hayeh digar ra didam vali jaleb naboodeh.

 

Yek ravesh sherkathayi messl Samsung bekar mibarand in asst keh massalan 2 ta team rah miandazand keh yek kari ra mikonand va hodoodan yek telefon ra missazand vali ba ham chi hamkari nemikonand. Gorohi keh zoodtar tamam konad BONUS va padash ziadi migirad, va inha badjoori ba ham reghabat mikonand. Be ham komak ham nemikonand. Yek dali ham in asst keh raiss ha beh karmandan etemad nadarand agar yeki goft in kar nemishe va inghadar tool mikeshad khoob goroh digar khoob harf digar mizanad va momken asst begoyad keh areh mishe inkar ra kard. Yani kami dalil in asst keh TRUST va etemaad nisst. Messl forodgah ha keh didid dar bazi keshvar ha 3, 4 ta bazressi migozarand ? yeki az dalayelash in asst keh agar shooma raftid ba pool yeki az in bazressan ra kharidid baghieh ra momken asst moshkel dashteh bashid bekharid. Hala Samsung ham shayad yeki az dalayelash in bashad.

 

Vali ma fekr mikonim yek projeh ra mamooli bekhayim beroonim va TRUST va etemaad bashad ya inkeh agar nisst mishavad ba BONUS va padash halat TEAM WORKING ra bevojood avard.

Baad bar mikhorim hala beh in jaryan keh dar bazi keshvar ha va CULTURE (farhang ha) pool mohem nisst. Massalan shooma beh oon Soofi dar Hend keh dar beyaban migardad va hal mikonad berid harchi pool bedahid, migoyad "Booooroooo baaabaaaaa " ya had akssar az an barayeh sokhtan va garm kardan khood esstefadeh khahad kard. Garche soofi va darvish ham soofi hayeh ghadimi, sofiayeh jadid hend ham yeki dootashoon man didam poolaki shodand va az Touristha pool migirand.

 

Beh har hal ma bayad farz ra bar in begirim keh afradi dar in karhayeh tekniki va SOFTWARE Development hasstand bedin soorat nisstand. Baad bayad yek system dorosst kard keh moshkeli shoma goftid dar Iran ba chek bi mohal va gheyreh hal kard keh an ideh barayeh sherkat asst keh dar ghessmat zir mikhanim.

 

Shodeh messl in barnameh hayeh televisioni keh migoyand cheshm adam khassteh nashe hey ghat mikonand agahi migozarand. Man ham hey mozo ra ghat mikonam miram beh neveshteh hayeh shoma, dar zemn yek chayi mikhoram bar migardam.

 

Ba ma bashid hich ja naravid, kanal ra ham avaz nakonid .......................

 

 

 

vali ma ino dar iran aslan nadareh

key migeh dar iran hameh donbal kar hastan

key megeh dar iran mohandesa be kar hastan

kasy keh kar anadareh mireh har kare mikoneh

dar hali keh dar iran afrad raze be kar kardan nistan

 

age shoma e projeh be kase beden va on dar zamanesh anjam nadeh chikar mitonin bokonin?

hoghogh nemiden

khob naden ,, vaghan fekr mikonin farghi mikoneh??????

na aslan

chon ma dar iran aslan arzeshi baray pol ghael nistim

albateh beshtar afrad besyar sharef hastan va har man ba afrad bad ghol hastesh va khaesh mikonam irani hay khosh gol narahat nashan

 

moshkel asle dar iran in hastesh keh moder ghodrat tanbeh nadareh chon age bekhad kare koneh fard khaty zerr hameh chiz mizeneh

dashtan gharardad va check va ... hameh alanki hastesh

e gharar dad faghat e safeh kaghaz hastesh keh be khater kami neveshteh rosh batel shodeh va age bekhad kasy eghdami koneh bayad salha donbal on bereh shayad javabi begereh

dar keshvare keh check bargashty hich etebary nadareh vaghan e gharar dad mani dareh?

 

dar har hal mozoy bahs zaman ande projeh hastesh

dar iran bayad moder hamesheh chand hafteh zodtar az zaman payan karo takmil koeh va chand nafar ro to ab namak negar dareh keh age kasy bad gholi kard az ona estefadeh koneh

 

Dar projeh hayeh tekniki va Software mamoolan PM LAG va FLOAD time migozarad keh agar jayi iradi bood ya kassi marizi chizi az an vaght ezafi esstefadeh shavad keh mamoolan CRITICAL PATH yani az noghteh A beh B dar projeh keh bebinand zaman takhir nemitooneh dashteh bashad ra peyda mikonand. Massalan dar projeh aval dorosst kardan HTTP STACK (2 mah) baad BROWSER (2 mah) baad XML PARSER (2 mah) 3 kar mokhtalef keh yeki baad az digari baayad dorosst shavad va takhir dar har kodam takhir dar kool projeh bevojood miavarad pass in CRITICAL PATH asst va bayad har vaght takhir bood az jahayeh digar afrad beh komak in goroh fresstad. Vali massalan agar CLOCK saat dar telefon keh 2 mah vaght migirad kassi takhir dasht hanooz okay asst choon shoma 4 mah FLOAD barayeh an darid keh mitavanid az an esstefadeh konid choon CLOCK sari amadeh shavad vali BROWSER amadeh nabashad projeh tammam nashoodeh va shooma telefon ra nemitoonid beforshid choon moshtari az shoma hatman BROWSER ra mikhahad.

 

In dar karhayeh SOFTWARE asst vali dar karhayeh fiziki hamoon jaryan dar ab namak khabandan bayad esstefadeh shavad keh massalan dar kar restaurant ya foroshgah, ya ranandeh otoboss va gheyreh agar yeki mariz shood nayoomad khoob shoma sari bayad fard digar ra zang bezanid beyayad. Keh jatoon khali man khoodam joozv oon to ab namak khabideh ha boodam, baad nisst. Dar dooran daneshjooyi dar Soed kenar darss keh kar mikardim dar ashbazkhooneh bimaresstan, dorosst kardan salad va gheyreh keh khyeli khoob bood agar kassi nemiamad va shanbeh yek shanbeh ha ya tatilat rassmi beh ma zang mizadand miraftim va double ya souble hessab mishood. 8 saat kar 16 saat hoghogh midadand. Tazeh baad az saat 7 shab keh mamoolan zarfshoori ba dasstgahha va ghablemeh ha bood agar kassi mibmand double bood. Keh albateh heykal man ra mididand mara migozashtand barayeh shoostan oon ghablemeh ha keh kheyli sakht bood digeh miamadid khoneh mioftadid khab miraftid. Vali khobish in bood keh double va souble bood khoob bejayeh 5 rooz kar barayeh daneshjooyan khoob bood yek shanbeh yek shanbeh i kar mikardand va pooli dar miavardand. Banabarin in dar namak khabandan barayeh kar hayeh fiziki mishavad anjam dad vali Mohandessin va motekhassessin keh gheymateshan bala asst va saati CHARGE mishavad nemishe dar namak khaband.

 

Rassti yek kari keh ma bayad bekonim idar Iran n asst keh daneshjooyan ma hengam darss karhayeh fiziki ziad bekonand keh badaneshan beh kar adat konad va sakhti keshideh bashand keh baadan ham ghadr darssi ra keh khandand midanand va ham be kassani keh karhayeh fiziki mikonand ehteram khassi ghael mibashand. Beh toor kol kar kardan massaleh mamooli dar miayad manand kheyli keshvar hayeh shomal oropa va hameh nemikhahand posht miz neshin bashand keh hamoon moshkelati keh shoma goftid beh vojood miayad.

 

omid varam roze bereseh keh dar iran ham hameh be fekr zaman bashan va age mohandesy bad gholi kard bedoneh hameh jay khabar dar mishan va behesh kar nemidan,, baray hamin kamtar bad gholi koneh

mazerat mikham sareton ro dard avordam

rasty in asami va mataleb baray ketab aghay rezayy ( nazareh hay sazmani va moderayat ) hastesh keh majbor shodam baray yad giri modereyat bekhodanam

In jaryani keh goftid : "va age mohandesy bad gholi kard bedoneh hameh jay khabar dar mishan va behesh kar nemidan", in hamani asst keh goftam tir zadid to khal, va ideh barayeh projeh va sherkati dar iran.

 

Choon man beh in fekr kardam va goftam makhraj moshtarak tammam in keshvar ha chisst keh in kar mikonad dar oropa va asia va amrika ? Massaleh in asst keh afrad tarssi az chizi darand keh oon kar ra anjam midahand va ehtemalan in tarss dar Iran vojood nadarad.

 

Dar Kore va Japon mamoolan dar sath sherkat ha sandikayeh sherkat ha asst keh ba ham hasstand agar shoma ra nafy konand digar hichkass ba shoma gharardad nemibandad banabarin sherkat shoma say mikonad moratab bashad va beh moghe massael ra tahvil dahad.

 

Baryaeh massael shakhssi va Sherkatha, dar Soed keh goftim az karmandan moshkel mitonid kar bekhahid choon ekhrajeshan ham moshkel asst va shoma az sherkathayeh kontrakter esstefadeh mikonid va in sherkatha barayeh sabegheh khodeshan bayad beh mogheh tahvil dahand.

 

Dar sath shakssi goftid dar Iran kassi az nagaraften pool baki nadarad ya chek bimohal va gheyreh. Banabarin rah hal dorosst kardan 2 sherkat dar sath kehsvar asst :

 

1. Credit Report

2. Money Collector

 

Dovomi in asst keh agar shoma az kassi talabi darid dar gharardad va gheyreh in sherkat ha donbal kar ra migirand va ba vakil ha va ghofl kardan hoghogh va daramad taraf eghdam mikonand. keh pool vakil hashoon ra ham beh meghdar an gharz ezafeh mikonand keh az taraf begirand.

 

Hala sherkat aval jaleb asst keh ehtemalan Iran ehtiaj darad keh ideh khoobi asst agar kassi az shoma an ra rah beyandazid va ya gorohi eghdam konid.

 

Dar Soed massalan mardoom tarss az in darand keh agar yek ghabzi ra nadahand essmeshan miravad beh KRONOFOGDEN va in dar DATABASE anha ta chand sal mimanad va parvandeh shan kharab mishavad va har kar bekhahand bekonand mohskel khahand dasht. Keh albateh oonja har kass ba yek 10 shomareh shenakhteh mishavad va hameh parvandeh ha ba oon 10 shomareh moshakhass mishavad. Keh Iran fekr konam ba ID CARD keh shoro shodeh in ghadam aval bardashteh shoodeh va kar ra rahat kardeh.

 

Hala ghessmat baad keh shoma mitavanid aval ejazeh ghanooni begirid va baad shoro konid baz kardan in sherkat hayeh CREDIT REPORT asst.

 

Massalan dar Amrika salha asst keh 3 ta sherkat zir vojood darand :

 

Experian   http://www.experian.com/

Equifax.com  http://www.equifax.com/

TransUnion.com http://www.transunion.com/

 

Keh mitavnid dar google.com ya dar link zir nemooneh CREDIT REPORT yek nafar ra bebinid:

 

Nemooneh moshakeshat yek nafar dar in sazeman ha:

http://www.creditreport.com/report_sample_m.html?bhcp=1

 

Shoma agar massalan ghabz barghetan ra dir dadid ya beh gharardad malitan ba kassi raayat nakardid va gheyreh in sherkathayeh mootabar manand BANK ha va sherkat hayeh bimeh INSURANCE va gheyrhe in REPORT ra barayeh in sherkat ha mahaneh mifresstand va inha dar DATABASE khood zabt mikonand. Hala shoma massalan mikhayid yek mashin bekharid va vam begirid, ya khoneh bekharid va vam begirid ya yek khoneh ejareh konid va gheyreh. Avalin kari keh mikonand CREDIT REPORT shoma ra az yeki az in sherkat ha mikhahand. Agar massael mossbat dar mored shoma nabashad khaneh ra ejareh nemidahand ya beh gheymat kheyli baala choon shoma risky hasstid. Ya vam ba bahreyeh bala choon shoma riski hasstid.

 

Banabarin dar sat jame eh hameh mitarssand parvandeh shan kharab shavad va movazeb hasstand. Sherkat ha ham keh agar parvandeh i dar dadgah dashteh bashand va gheyreh sabt mishavad va shoma massalan yek kontraktor mikhahid begirid aval moshakhessatash ra check mikonid.

 

In sherkatha ham pooleshan ra az har REPORT keh midahand massalan $60 ya $30 bassteh cheghadar kamel bashad dar miavarad. 1 million dar rooz darkhasst beshe khodash mishe $30 million dar rooz. Keh inha karmandan ziadi dar tammam shahr ha esstekhdam darand. Ghadima ba system hayeh aghab oftadeh kar mikardand va rooz  beh rooz pishrafteh tar mishavand keh alan az tarigh WEB ham mitonid taghaza konid.

 

Hala shoma gorohi dar Iran kari mitoonid bekonid nemooneh in sherkat ra ejazeh ghanooni gerefteh bezanid. Faghat yek eshkal dar Iran vojood darad keh taraf dar moredesh in sherkat baad neveshteh bashid momken asst dosstashoo jam konad berizand shab sherkatetoon ra berizand beh ham va DATABASE va SERVER etan kharab konand. Mamoolan in sherkat ha amniat ziadi darand va dar ghessmathayeh makhsoss va mohkam va karmandan ham raz dar va ghassam khordeh keh haye dar mored parvandeh afrad ba digaran harf nazanand va gheyreh.

 

Hala shoma agar ejazeh ghanoni begirid mitonid gheyr az mohkam kari hayeh bala massalan dar 3 ghessmat yeki dar Tehran, yeki dar Mashhad yeki dar Tabriz keh alan bache ha faal darim yek DATABASE, Oracle ya ba SQL shoro konid bessazid va har shab SYNCHRONIZE konid keh agar rikhtand dosstan kassi dar Tehran kamputer ra kharab kardand ya doozdidand dar Mashahd va Tabriz kopi az an bashad. Albateh in dar avayel asst baadan keh karetan begirad digar mitavanid herfeh i tar eghdam konid va negahban va gheyreh.

 

Vali avayel mitoonid WEB dorosst konid va beh Bank ha, sherkat hayeh Bimeh, Bongah hayeh moamelati begoyid keh mitavanand tarikhche eghtessadi (bayad faghat eghtesadi bashad, janayi va gheyreh marboot beh dadgah ha mibashad) va inkeh afrad khosh hessab boodeh and ya nah ra az shoma bekhahand va beh shoma bedahand. Avayel mitonid in REPORT ra arzan ya majani dar ekhtiar begozarid ta in system bevojood beyayad va in farhang ra bessazid.

 

Vaghti in farhang saktheh shood va system rah oftad messl kheyli keshvar hayeh digar, afrad dar projeh ha va ravabet sherkat ha gharardad ha ra raayat mikonand va yeki az massael an vaght shenassi asst bevojood miayad.

 

Kheyli az in keshvar ha in massael ra rooz aval nadashtand va kam kam ghadam beh ghadam sakhtand, shoma ham mitoonid ghadam beh ghadam eghdam konid va bessazid Keh nassl hayeh ayandeh niz mamnoonetan khahand bood.

 

,,

rasty agha rosso

man ghablan ela amadegim ro kardam baray har goneh komaki age kare basheh dar khedmatam

age mibinin javab bazy az nameh ha ro ham der der midem be khater sangin bodan matalebi hast keh shoma migin va ma hameh dost darem dar har kary keh az dastemon bar miyad komak konin

ghablan rezomeh mano deden, khodeton age kare bod keh betonam komak konam befarmaeed khoshal misham

e pishnehad ham baray kara daram

 

Resume (CV) etan ra agar barayeh man fresstadid naressid (Word format ? ).

Vali etelaat hodoodi dar nameh ghabli tan dasstam amad keh fekr mikonam keh kanal khoobi bashid barayeh dasstressi beh motekhassessin. Mikham barayeh bacheh hayi keh elam alagheh kardeh and kharej az in goroh email bedam, keh mozahem shoma ham misham.

age dost dashteh bashin va inkeh hamdegaro beshtar beshnasem e chat room gharar bezarem va e sa'at khasy az roz keh hameh dor ham jam shim

omid varam chenin zamani jr besheh

 

Vallah oon avayel chandin nafar goftand berim CHAT keh goftim dar chat yahoo (marboot beh hamin goroh) har shab saat 8 ta 9 shab dar har keshvari hasstim berim, hata yek chat site yeki az bache (pirooz) ha keh dar Japon hasst dar ekhtiar gozasht keh yahoo man chand bar raftam kassi nabood. Oon dar japon ham raftim 3, 4 nafar yek bar omadim. Vali fekr konam 2, 3 ta az bache ha ba ham beh soorat jodaganeh tammass darand. Hala agar kar gorohi i chizi shoro konim shayad dobareh mozoh CHAT ra matrah konim bebinim chi mishe.

 

 

ba tshakor az shoma va tamam dostani keh komak mikonan

be omid dedar

Sohrab

amin mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@...> wrote:

salam be hame,

man daneshjoo hastam va hanooz projeh rasmi baray jayi
nadashtam, vali harfay BOOS bram kheyli jaleb bood
chand ta nokte be nazaram resid :
dar mored kelas va daneshgah goftid,man alan ke vagt
emtehan hast fekr mikonam mibinam agar in ravesh ro
ejra mikardam kheyli baram khob bood,vali agar man ye
rozi ostade ye jayi shodam hatman in ravesho entekhab
mikonam,ham baray khodam rahattare ham baray daneshjo
ha,masalan ma vasat term yek dafe ostad miad mige
hafte dige ya do hafte dige emtehane,hala ma onrooz
emtehan dashte bashim ya harchi.

ye rooz chand sale pish ke aghay Khatami reis
jomhoor,rafte bood USA baray sokhanrani dar UN,ke
hamoon vaght baray IRANi ha dar USA ham sokhanrani
dasht,goft mohajerat yeki az rahhay goftegoy
tamadonhast, man ba khodam goftam baray ma ke dakhel
hastm chetoor mitone mofid bashe,behar hal goftegoo do
tarafe ast,ba in sohbat hay agay Rosso hala
mifahmam,man fekr mikonam ma be onvam gheshr tahsil
karde bayad baray pishraft keshvaremoon bishtar va
behtar kar konim,chon be har hal ma az sarmaie hay in
keshvar be inja residim va masoliat darim,man yek
shoar baray khodam daram ke hamishe behesh amal
mikonam ke : AGE AZ CHIZI NARAHATI GHOR NAZAN AVAZAESH
KON.shayad kheyli chiza ro nashe alan avaz kard,vali
mesl parvaz mimone,alan age dar mored behtarin
havapeyma ha ham bekhan sohbat konand aval filme onai
ro neshon midan ke ba bali ke ba par dorost karde mi
khast bepare.ma ye ostad dashtim baray yeki az
darsamoon dar bare vejdan mohandesi sohbat mikard mesl
hamin vaght shenasi,khodesh migoft ye projeh gereftam
ta tarikh 2 hafte dige hanooz shoro nakardam.manzoram
ine ke age chizi garare avaz beshe khodemoon bayad
avazesh konim hala shayad 30-40 sal tool bekeshe vali
sale 1410 masalan dige in moshke vojod nadare.
merci,mibakhshid ziad neveshtam
Amin Mahmudian 

--- Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@...> wrote:

> Ba Salam,
> 
> Ba Hamid yeki az dosstan faal aziz, mozoh vaght
> shenassi va daghigh boodan dar massael roozaneh dar
> email mored bahss bood.
> 
> Ba Sohrab aziz yeki digar az dosstan aziz dar in
> goroh dar mored beh mogheh tahvil dadan projeh dar
> yek email mored bahss bood keh ishan migoftand keh
> dar chand projeh keh barayeh yek sherkati dar kharej
> az Iran anjam dadand tajroobeh khobi nadashtand va
> jaryan beh daghighe 90 va penalty keshideh shood.
> 
> Gooftam shayad behtar bashad bahss ra beh goroh va
> omomi bekeshim bebinim tajroobeh digar dosstan chi
> boodeh ? Aya shoma halati ra soragh darid dar Iran
> ya kharej Iran keh projeh beh mogheh va tarikhi keh
> gofteh shoodeh anjam shoodeh ? Agar areh, dalayel
> moafaghiat an beh nazar shooam chi boodeh ? Agar
> nah, dalayel shekasst ? Beh nazar shooma chekar
> bayad kard keh yek projeh dar har farhangi beh
> mogheh tahvil dadeh shavad ? Mitonid dar inja
> nazaretan ra begoyid ya khaterat khoob ya bad dar in
> mored ra benevissid.
> 
> Ghabl az shoma agar man az tajaroob khodam begoyam,
> tajaroobi keh daram dar projeh hayeh mokhtalef dar
> keshvar hayeh mokhtalef va ba farhang hayeh
> mokhtalef boodeh. Fekr mikonam in tanha ma Irani ha
> nisstim ba zaman moshkel darim, hamangooneh keh
> goftam bisthar afradi keh az Khavar mianeh va
> manategh atraf didam moshkel darand. Baad dar Oropa
> harchi payin tar va jonob tar miravid in moshkel
> bishtar mishavad. Massalan jonoob Europa keshvarhayi
> messl Italia, Espania, Portugal, Jonob fransseh,
> farhangi messl khodeman keh hala bebinim chi mishe
> ziad mibinid. Kheyli shahrhayeh Espania keh mibinid
> manand baazi az shahrhayeh khodeman zohr ha kareshan
> ra tark mikonand miravand nahar mikhorand va
> mikhaband (SIESTA) va 3, 4 dobareh miayand. Albateh
> shayad in beh elaat garm boodan hava dar in keshvar
> ha asst. Dar avaz shabha mibinid edareh momken asst
> ta 6, 7 baz bashad va foroshghaha ta 12 shab manand
> Bombay dar hend keh hava garm asst va jonb o joosh
> khood ra darad.
> 
> Dar avaz dar shomal Oropa dar keshvar hayi messl
> Alman, baad keshvarhayeh Eskandinavy manand Danmark,
> Soed, Finland, Norwej (Norway) har chi bala tar miri
> hava sardtar va monazami bishtar. Agar gharar bashad
> saat 5:00 dar Bank ya foroshgah bassteh shavad haman
> saat darb bassteh mishavad. Hala shoma harcheh
> mikhayid royeh shishe bezanid keh agha, khanoom toro
> khooda darb ra baz kon man faghat migkham felan chiz
> ra sari bekharam beram. Gheyr momken asst dar ra baz
> konand. Kheyli royeh shishe bezanid momken asst
> polis beyayad va shomara bebarad.
> 
> Choon onha oon saat bayad darb ra bebandand, va baad
> ghabz hara hessab konand va hessab rooz ra bebandand
> va massalan otoboss saat 5:37 ra begirad beravad
> khanash. Agar shoma 3 daghigeh moatelash konid
> otoboss 5:37 daghigeh ra az dasst midahad.
> 
> Albateh doosti beh shokhi migoft in kehsvarhayeh
> shomal oropa, barayeh in inghdar moratab shodand va
> sar gharareshan daghigh 8:10 massalan miayand choon
> otoboss hashoon agar dar jadval zamanbandi neveshteh
> sobh saat 8:17 miayad baadi 8:23 baadi 8:37 va
> gheyreh, agar nayayad taraf zemesstoon az sarma
> oonja khoshkash mizanad va mimirad. Beh har hal har
> dalili darad kheyli moratab va vaght shenass
> hasstand va hamin massaleh ra shoma dar projeh ha
> mibinid massalan projeh hayeh sherkat hayi manannd
> Ericsson, Sony Ericsson va Nokia. Banbarin bayad
> havassetan bashad projeh i ba in sherkat ha dar
> ayandeh dashtid vaght shenassi barashoon kheyli
> mohem asst, va agar kehsvar hayeh digar oropayi va
> amrikayi ra dideh id inha digar 10 barabar anha
> hasstand va in ra khoob asst dar zehnetan dashteh
> bashid vaghti projeh ha ra anjam midahid.
> 
> Ma avayel keh Soed daneshgah ya kelass hayeh digar
> miraftim, mididim rooz aval moalem ya osstad miayad
> AGENDA va list tammam karha dar tool sal ra midahad
> va migoyand che roozi che saati emtehan ha asst.
> Baad bacheh hayeh soedi shoro mikonand taghvim hayeh
> makhsoos az kif va jibeshan dar avardand va tarikha
> ra nevesthan va bahss shoro mishe keh osstad mishe
> massalan felan test ra felan rooz beh 2 rooz baad
> montaghel konid choon midoonid oon rooz ghablesh
> tatil asst va felan etefagh mioftad, bacheh hayeh
> goroh ham felan barnameh ra darand va gheyreh.
> Kholasseh hameh movafeghat mikardand va tarikh avaz
> mishood.
> 
> Ya dar kelass hayeh khodemooni kochak tar mididi
> felani migoft man dar oon hafteh (6 mah digar)
> massooliat bache ha ra beh ohdeh daram va felan
> massaleh saat 4:30 bayad beram agar kassi mokhalef
> nisst in jaryan ra beh saat 3:45 enteghal dahim,
> hameh negah mikardand beh taghvimashoon va migoftand
> barayeh man OK asst kholasseh in vaghtha hamoon rooz
> aval tanzim mishood.
> 
> Ma ham haj o baj oon vassat ba farhang Irani, 30
> daghigeh keh hichi, 4, 5 saat keh hichi, emtehan ham
> keh gharar dashtim hamoon shab akhar yek karish
> bekonim keh. Inha chi migoyand ? Az koja midoonand 6
> mah digar che khabar asst. Kholasseh baadan mididim
> eh rasst goftand chand rooz ghabl az emtehan hamoon
> jaryani keh oonha migoftand va oon tatilat felan
> moshkel ra bevojood miavarad va kholasseh ta etefagh
> nemiotfad nemifahmidim.
> 
> Albateh baad az chand sal didim khodemoon ham messl
> oonha shoodim, az 3 mah ghabl emtehanat ra tanzim
> kardeh va beh khondan mashghool. Mayi keh toyeh Iran
> hamoon shab akhar maximum hafteh akhar kheyli
> mikhondim. Albateh dar oon reshteh keh ma mikhandim
> dar Soed nemidoonam jaryan ba daneshghah hayeh digar
> keh khondeh boodam kheyli fargh mikard va kheyli
> sakht bood va 5 ta darss ba ham mibayesst khond keh
> bedoon in barnameh rizi va tanzim vaght asslan
> nemishood pish raft va vahedi gozaroond. Va mamoolan
> bishtar karmandan va mohandessin Ericsson Soed,
> makhssoosan dar sath modiriat projeh ha messl inkeh
> maghaleh i nevestheh bood az oon daneshghah biroon
> miayand. Vali betoor kool mishe in moratabi ra dar
> sath keshvar dar in keshvar hayeh Scandinaviayi
> messl Soed (Ericsson) va Finland (Nokia) did.
> 
> Tazeh Finlandi ha gheyr az in monazami dar vaght az
> Soedi ha poor kar tar hasstand va kheyli kar
> mikonand. Dar zemn yek khassiati keh in keshvar ha
> darand keh shoma dar sherkat hashoon ham mibinid
> TRUST va etemaad ziad beh bala dassteshan va
> hokoomat va gheyreh darand va khodeshan ra dar hameh
> massael sharik midanand. Bar akss massalan Italiayi
> ha keh migoyand massalan hokoomat va oon bala
> CORRUPTED va fassed asst va dasst Mafia asst pass
> man chera dorosst kar konam ? Har ja mishe yek joori
> az kar momken asst bezanand va taghaloob konand.
> Massalan migoyand bishtar sherkat ha dar Italia 2 ta
> daftar hessabdari akhar sal darand yeki oon keh beh
> doolat midahand va daramad ra kam neshoon midahand
> yeki ankeh barayeh khodeshan negah midarand.
> 
> In massaleh TRUST dar yek projeh kheyli mohem asst
> va inkeh afrad INVOLVED (khod ra jozi az projeh
> danesstand) bashand. Beh onvan messal man dooreh
> daneshjooyi jayi dar soed kar mikardam keh afrad
> ziad az melliat haye mokhtalef donya bood. Az khavar
> mianeh, asia, afrighayeh shomali (marakesh, tuness
> va gheyreh). Mididi khareji ha say mikonand az zir
> kar dar beravand ya beh har sorat yek kalaki toyeh
> kar bezanand. Ya massalan agar raiss nabood sari 1
> saat zood tar beravand khooneh. Az yek Soedi yek bar
> didam baghieh darand miravand oon hamintoor kar
> mikonad gooftam to nemiri ? Goft man keh hanooz 8
> saat karam ra anjam nadadeh am nemitonam beravam.
> Man barayeh 8 saat dar rooz hoghogh migiram bayad 8
> saat kar konam. Maroo migi pish khodam goftam ajab
> afradi inha hasstand, bikhood nisst ba in jamiat 9
> millionishoon inghadar pishraft kardeh and va in
> hameh teknology pishrafteh az jomleh ABB, Ericsson,
> SAAB, VOLVO va gheyreh darand. Kashki ma Irani ha
> ham yek zamani inghadar daghigh va
>  moratab mishoodim.
> 
> Albateh adam bayad vagheh bin bashad man fekr
> nemikonam ma hichvaght dar Iran messl in keshvar
> hayeh scandinavia daghigh va moratab shavim va
> etemaad beh bala dassti keh hatman ehtiaj nabashad
> kassi bala sareman bashad ta kari ra anjam dahim.
> Choon in khassiat ra dar keshvar hayeh digar ham
> nemibinid. Messl Franssavi ha Italiayi ha keh tazeh
> dar Oropa hasstand tazeh che beresseh beh digar
> keshvarhayeh Asia va Amrikayeh shomali ya jonobi.
> 
> Dar projeh ha inja dar Amrika etefagh hayeh jalebi
> mioftad zamani sherkathayi manand Ericsson ya Nokia
> miayand inja va karmandashan afrad mokhtalef az
> keshvar hayeh mokhtalef asst, choon dar Amrika afrad
> az hameh keshvarhayeh donya dar Engineering
> hasstand, az Asia gerefteh ta oropa va amrikayeh
> shomali va amrikhayi jonobo. Har koodam farhanghayeh
> khodeshan va tarif khood barayeh zaman. Modiriat in
> gooneh projeh ha kheyli sakht asst va shoma
> chizhayeh ziadi yad migirid. Ehtemalan yek projeh
> dar Iran ya yek projeh dar Soed sadeh tar asst
> randan choon bishtar afrad yek farhang darand va
> shoma midanid ba oon farhang chegooneh barkhord
> konid vali yek projeh keh chand farhangi asst kheyli
> sakht va dar zemn jaleb asst dar CONFLICT
> (ekhtelafat) va MISSUNDERSTANDING (dorosst
> nafahmidan manzoor yek digar).
> 
> Choon ma enssan ha mamoolan fekr mikonim keh taraf
> moghabeleman haman bardashti az kalameh i keh ma
> bekar mibirim darad keh khodeman darim. Vali az koja
> midanim
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=====
Amin.M.M


           
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Sohrab & Team aziz salam,

az inke nazarat va pishnahad ha toon ro dadid
mamnonam,man be onvan kasi ke mikhad bezodi vared in
bazar kar beshe(bazar IRAN),kheyli khoshhal misham dar
mored tajrobe ha va nazar hay shoma bishtar baray ma
sohbat konid,fekr konam baghie ham estefade konand
(albate fekr konam) bazam mamnoon.
*Note : faghat dar mored Type finglishi(!)lotfan
bishtar deghat konid ta ma rahat tar manzoretoon ro
befahmim.
ghorbane shoma
Amin Mahmudian
--- sohrab asadzadeh <sasadzadeh@...> wrote:

> salam bar hamegi makhsosan rosso aziz
> az inkeh be nameh man tavajoh karden va barash chand
> bar javab neveshtin mamnon
> rastesh man khili baray javad dadan be nameh shoma
> fekr kardam
> midonin ma dar iran moshkelatemon kami ba jahay
> degeh fargh dareh
> vali man mikham be sorat kami elmi bahash barkhord
> konam
> hamontory keh goftam man ghabla chanta projeh az
> kharej gerefteh bodam keh moteasefaneh dar zaman
> ejra mamolan be man bad gholi mishod va vaghty ro z
> akhar mishod man hamash bayad az in var be onvar
> shahr miraftam ta kar tamom besheh ya inkeh khodam e
> ghesmaty ro anjam midadam
> in keh e kare be daghegh 90 mimoneh masaleh iran
> nist va dar kol jahan vojod dareh
> dar ghanon parkinson migeh har projeh be andazeh
> zamanesh tol mikesheh
> yani age e projeh 2 mah kar dareh va shoma begin 2
> sal bazam toy 2 sal anjam misheh na to 2 mah
> baresy neshon dadeh keh in elat asli emprator saze
> hastesh
> yani inkeh taraf baray inkeh bazdeh sherkat 2
> barabar besheh karmandaro 2 barabar mikoneh vali
> bazdeh hamon mimoneh ya kami avaz misheh
> dar kol donya sar shodeh in masalaro hal konan va
> koli ham ghanon barash gozashtan
> vali ma dar iran be in rahaty nemitonim hal konim
> shayad elatesh kami dor az zehn basheh vali e elat
> sadeh hastesh
> fayol dar 14 asl khodesh migeh bayad moder ekhteyar
> dashteh basheh
> yani inkeh betoneh dastor bedeh va darstoresh ro ba
> komak padash va tanbeh be ejra dar beyareh
> vali ma ino dar iran aslan nadareh
> key migeh dar iran hameh donbal kar hastan
> key megeh dar iran mohandesa be kar hastan
> kasy keh kar anadareh mireh har kare mikoneh
> dar hali keh dar iran afrad raze be kar kardan
> nistan
> 
> age shoma e projeh be kase beden va on dar zamanesh
> anjam nadeh chikar mitonin bokonin?
> hoghogh nemiden
> khob naden ,, vaghan fekr mikonin farghi
> mikoneh??????
> na aslan
> chon ma dar iran aslan arzeshi baray pol ghael
> nistim
> albateh beshtar afrad besyar sharef hastan va har
> man ba afrad bad ghol hastesh va khaesh mikonam
> irani hay khosh gol narahat nashan
> 
> moshkel asle dar iran in hastesh keh moder ghodrat
> tanbeh nadareh chon age bekhad kare koneh fard khaty
> zerr hameh chiz mizeneh
> dashtan gharardad va check va ... hameh alanki
> hastesh
> e gharar dad faghat e safeh kaghaz hastesh keh be
> khater kami neveshteh rosh batel shodeh va age
> bekhad kasy eghdami koneh bayad salha donbal on
> bereh shayad javabi begereh
> dar keshvare keh check bargashty hich etebary
> nadareh vaghan e gharar dad mani dareh?
> 
> dar har hal mozoy bahs zaman ande projeh hastesh
> dar iran bayad moder hamesheh chand hafteh zodtar az
> zaman payan karo takmil koeh va chand nafar ro to ab
> namak negar dareh keh age kasy bad gholi kard az ona
> estefadeh koneh
> 
> omid varam roze bereseh keh dar iran ham hameh be
> fekr zaman bashan va age mohandesy bad gholi kard
> bedoneh hameh jay khabar dar mishan va behesh kar
> nemidan,, baray hamin kamtar bad gholi koneh
> mazerat mikham sareton ro dard avordam
> rasty in asami va mataleb baray ketab aghay rezayy (
> nazareh hay sazmani va moderayat ) hastesh keh
> majbor shodam baray yad giri modereyat bekhodanam
> 
> ,,
> rasty agha rosso
> man ghablan ela amadegim ro kardam baray har goneh
> komaki age kare basheh dar khedmatam
> age mibinin javab bazy az nameh ha ro ham der der
> midem be khater sangin bodan matalebi hast keh shoma
> migin va ma hameh dost darem dar har kary keh az
> dastemon bar miyad komak konin
> ghablan rezomeh mano deden, khodeton age kare bod
> keh betonam komak konam befarmaeed khoshal misham
> e pishnehad ham baray kara daram
> age dost dashteh bashin va inkeh hamdegaro beshtar
> beshnasem e chat room gharar bezarem va e sa'at
> khasy az roz keh hameh dor ham jam shim
> omid varam chenin zamani jr besheh
> ba tshakor az shoma va tamam dostani keh komak
> mikonan
> be omid dedar
> Sohrab
>
> amin mahmudian <amin_mahmudian@...> wrote:
> salam be hame,
>
> man daneshjoo hastam va hanooz projeh rasmi baray
> jayi
> nadashtam, vali harfay BOOS bram kheyli jaleb bood
> chand ta nokte be nazaram resid :
> dar mored kelas va daneshgah goftid,man alan ke vagt
> emtehan hast fekr mikonam mibinam agar in ravesh ro
> ejra mikardam kheyli baram khob bood,vali agar man
> ye
> rozi ostade ye jayi shodam hatman in ravesho
> entekhab
> mikonam,ham baray khodam rahattare ham baray
> daneshjo
> ha,masalan ma vasat term yek dafe ostad miad mige
> hafte dige ya do hafte dige emtehane,hala ma onrooz
> emtehan dashte bashim ya harchi.
>
> ye rooz chand sale pish ke aghay Khatami reis
> jomhoor,rafte bood USA baray sokhanrani dar UN,ke
> hamoon vaght baray IRANi ha dar USA ham sokhanrani
> dasht,goft mohajerat yeki az rahhay goftegoy
> tamadonhast, man ba khodam goftam baray ma ke dakhel
> hastm chetoor mitone mofid bashe,behar hal goftegoo
> do
> tarafe ast,ba in sohbat hay agay Rosso hala
> mifahmam,man fekr mikonam ma be onvam gheshr tahsil
> karde bayad baray pishraft keshvaremoon bishtar va
> behtar kar konim,chon be har hal ma az sarmaie hay
> in
> keshvar be inja residim va masoliat darim,man yek
> shoar baray khodam daram ke hamishe behesh amal
> mikonam ke : AGE AZ CHIZI NARAHATI GHOR NAZAN
> AVAZAESH
> KON.shayad kheyli chiza ro nashe alan avaz kard,vali
> mesl parvaz mimone,alan age dar mored behtarin
> havapeyma ha ham bekhan sohbat konand aval filme
> onai
> ro neshon midan ke ba bali ke ba par dorost karde mi
> khast bepare.ma ye ostad dashtim baray yeki az
> darsamoon dar bare vejdan mohandesi sohbat mikard
> mesl
> hamin vaght shenasi,khodesh migoft ye projeh
> gereftam
> ta tarikh 2 hafte dige hanooz shoro
> nakardam.manzoram
> ine ke age chizi garare avaz beshe khodemoon bayad
> avazesh konim hala shayad 30-40 sal tool bekeshe
> vali
> sale 1410 masalan dige in moshke vojod nadare.
> merci,mibakhshid ziad neveshtam
> Amin Mahmudian 
>
> --- Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@...>
> wrote:
>
> > Ba Salam,
> > 
> > Ba Hamid yeki az dosstan faal aziz, mozoh vaght
> > shenassi va daghigh boodan dar massael roozaneh
> dar
> > email mored bahss bood.
> > 
> > Ba Sohrab aziz yeki digar az dosstan aziz dar in
> > goroh dar mored beh mogheh tahvil dadan projeh dar
> > yek email mored bahss bood keh ishan migoftand keh
> > dar chand projeh keh barayeh yek sherkati dar
> kharej
> > az Iran anjam dadand tajroobeh khobi nadashtand va
> > jaryan beh daghighe 90 va penalty keshideh shood.
> > 
> > Gooftam shayad behtar bashad bahss ra beh goroh va
> > omomi bekeshim bebinim tajroobeh digar dosstan chi
> > boodeh ? Aya shoma halati ra soragh darid dar Iran
> > ya kharej Iran keh projeh beh mogheh va tarikhi
> keh
> > gofteh shoodeh anjam shoodeh ? Agar areh, dalayel
> > moafaghiat an beh nazar shooam chi boodeh ? Agar
> > nah, dalayel shekasst ? Beh nazar shooma chekar
> > bayad kard keh yek projeh dar har farhangi beh
> > mogheh tahvil dadeh shavad ? Mitonid dar inja
> > nazaretan ra begoyid ya khaterat khoob ya bad dar
> in
> > mored ra benevissid.
> > 
> > Ghabl az shoma agar man az tajaroob khodam
> begoyam,
> > tajaroobi keh daram dar projeh hayeh mokhtalef dar
> > keshvar hayeh mokhtalef va ba farhang hayeh
> > mokhtalef boodeh. Fekr mikonam in tanha ma Irani
> ha
> > nisstim ba zaman moshkel darim, hamangooneh keh
> > goftam bisthar afradi keh az Khavar mianeh va
> > manategh atraf didam moshkel darand. Baad dar
> Oropa
> > harchi payin tar va jonob tar miravid in moshkel
> > bishtar mishavad. Massalan jonoob Europa
> keshvarhayi
> > messl Italia, Espania, Portugal, Jonob fransseh,
>
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http://www.aboutsymbian.com/archives/cat_programming.html in ham linkeh amozhesh sakhteh file SIS keh doostemon chand sad sal pish porsidan

 mamnon

ghabol daram man ham shokhi kardam etefagan rozihateh shoma jameh tar bod daram farsi typesh mikonam keh takmileh on magaleh ro site bezaram chon jozitar marahelo goftid.

 

Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@...> wrote:

>agha salmanzadeh yeh zaram az manabeyeh dakhelei estefadeh konid bad nist bekhoda

 

Man keh harfi nadaram. Nemidonesstam shoma dosstan dar aboutsymbian.com dar in mored toozih dadeh id. Vagarnah kerm keh nadashtam yek saat ham sar khodam ham dasst khodam ra dard beyavaram inja toozih benevissam

 

Alan raftam royeh site etan bebinam dar in mored chi neveshteh id, messl inkeh hamangooneh keh goftid down asst. Hala doostan mitonand baadan rojo konand va bekhanand.

 

Dar zemn man keh az manba khareji keh nagoftam az khood SDK inja gozashtam keh manbah assli Series 60 asst. Kheyli ham az site shoma begoyam yek dafeh momken asst dosstani eteraz konand keh agha chera parti bazi mikonid az in ya oon site migoyid, man bayad say konam kheyli bi taraf amal konam inja. Banabarin shayad rahat tarin rah in asst choon shoma mataleb an site ra behtar az man midanid keh chi hasst chi nisst, har vaght man chizi inja goftam shoma didid oonja ham toozihat takmili hasst mitonid REPLY bezanid va link bedahid doostan khasstand rojo konand. Injoori digeh hameh razi khahand bood va jayeh gelayeh ham az kassi nakhahad bood

 

Felan

Rosso

"Payman M.Jaberi" <anfolanza_pmj@...> wrote:

Salam man khastam dar takmileh sohbateh aghayeh salman zadeh link bedam keh moteasefaneh servereh site aboutsymbian down shodeh vali khob dar in mored magalei darim royeh site www.aboutsymbian.com dar bakhsheh Barnameh nevisi> Maghalat keh chegoneh yeh file SIS besazid .

bad nist shayad be dardeh doostan bokhoreh.

agha salmanzadeh yeh zaram az manabeyeh dakhelei estefadeh konid bad nist bekhoda

Iranian Symbian <iranian_symbian@...> wrote:

Salam,

 

Yeki az dosstan dar goroh dar emaili porssideh boodand keh chegoneh mishe SIS file dorosst kard va etelaat dar in mored ra az koja mishe peyda kard ?

 

Khoob shood yek soal tekniki dashtim in chand vaght hamash gheyr tekniki harf zadim dar in goroh yek kam tanavoo ham mishavad. Albateh messl inkeh az natayej nazar sanji ta hala maloom mishe doosstan badeshoon nemiayad harfhayeh gheyr symbian va massalan dar mored PROJECT MANAGEMENT va DEADLINE va TIME va gheyreh ham bezanim.

 

Vali khoob shayad ghati az in doota basheh khoobeh keh yek joor nabashad va khassteh nashim, tanavooh dashteh bashim.

 

Hala bargardim beh sakhtan SIS, man ghablan tassmim dashtam in ra kheyli daghigh dar telefon neshoon bedam vali baadan didim safheh telefon ra beh in rahati nemishe toyeh television neshoon dad va dasstgah hayeh ezafi ehtiaj asst.

 

Hala dar gooftar 6 ya 7 dar DVD ha neshoon midam chegoneh az kamputer beh telefon ba IR montaghel miseh va install mikonim.

 

Barayeh inkeh bebinid chegooneh SIS dorosst konid dar SDK ghessmat Search benevissid : "SIS" chandin document neshoon mideh keh yeki dar zir asst beh onvan nemooneh baratoon gozashtam.

 

Behtarin kar in asst keh yek Hello World ba Visual C++ va Series 60 WIZARD (dar mashaghel.com/symbian rojoh konid keh chegooneh WIZARD ra install konid) dorosst konid keh khodash baratoon yek file PACKAGE dorosst mikonad keh mibinid chi toosh migozarad keh baad barayeh barnameh khoodetan gheyr az hello world hamoon kar ha ra bekonid.

 

Beh toor kol kholasseh konam kar hayi keh bayad anjam dahid dar zir minevissam:

 

1. Yek file ba EXTENSION .pkg dorosst konid beh soorat TEXT. Chi toosh bayad benevissid mitoonid az yek Hello World keh ba Wizard sakhtid negah konid, havassetan bashad keh UID va halati keh WIZARD missazad momken asst ba EXAMPLE keh darid fargh konad. Va neshoon mideh keh ba cheh version SDK kar mikonad. WIZARD mamoolan doroosst tar asst agar sar dorahi boodid keh Wizard ra negah konid ya EXAMPLE ra beh messal dar WIZARD negah konid.

 

2. Motmaen bashid keh barnameh tan ra barayeh THUMB sakhtid :

 

abld build thumb

 

Choon vaghti SIS dorosst mishe file hayeh sakhteh shoodeh barayeh THUMB keh HARDWARE asst ra bar midarad va nah file hayi keh barayeh WINDOWS (wins) sakhtid. Agar in kar ra nakoonid Error migirid vaghti SIS missazid migoyad felan file ra peyda nemikonad.

 

3. Hala mitoonid SIS file dorosst konid az package file manand zir :

 

makesis HelloWorld.pkg

 

4. Agar error nagereftid yek SIS file dorosst mishe massalan HelloWorld.sis

 

5. Hala kafi asst in SIS file ra toori az kamputer beh telefon montaghel konid. Massalan email konid beh telefon (agar telefon email va DATA ACCOUNT vassl bashad). Ya rahat tarin az tarigh IR (INFRA RED) asst. Barayeh in kar bayad kamputeretan IR dashteh bashad, mamoolan hameh Laptop ha darand.

 

Miravid toyeh telefon ghessmat IR (mamoolan dar COMMUNICATION) royeh IR klick mikonid va neshoon mideh ENABLE ya DISABLE keh shoma faalash mikonid ba entekhab kardan ENABLED. Baad sari migozarid roberoyeh shisheyeh IR kamputeretan.

 

Motmaen bashid DRIVER hayeh IR dar kamputer etan ghablan INSTALL Shodeh va faal asst. Massalan agar yek kamputer laptop Toshiba, Tecra 8100 darid mitoonid berid beh site Toshiba.com donbal DRIVER begardid barayeh model khodetoon va IR driver ra download va install konid. Ya momken asst ALREADY install shodeh bashad va amadeh bashad.

 

Beh har hal Vaghti telefon ra IR ash ra faal kardid va roberoyeh shishe IR kamputer gozashtid Windows IR ash rah mioftad va messl FILE BROWSER neshoon mideh keh kodoom file ra mikhahid befresstid. Keh in file Helloworld.sis ra entekhab mikonid va oon sari mifresstad toyeh telefonetan.

 

Hala telefon bogh mizanad keh yek file jadid daryaft shoodeh mikhayid install konid ? Migoyid areh. Baad migoyad UNTRUSTED asst mikhahid bazam install konid migoyid areh va install mishe. Hala ICON hello world ra dar list barnameh ha khahid did va agar rosh klick konid barnameh ra miranad. Agar vaghti click kardid gooft "System Error" mamoolan RESOURCE file dorosst compile nashoodeh keh PACKAGE ra dorosst check konid keh PATH ra dorosst dadeh id.

 

Rah hayeh digar keh mitonid az computer SIS ra beh telefon befresstid az tarigh MMC Card asst yani in Kart hayeh kochak Memory keh Memory READER beh kamputer vassl mikonid va aval SIS file ra beh in memory card montaghel mikonid baad MMC card ra bar midarid va migozarid toyeh Telefon va baad ba FILE BROWSER dar telefon royeh MMC miravid va royeh SIS file click mikonid keh INSTALLATION shoro mikonad va haman soal ha ra azetan miporssad va install mishe.

 

Ya inkeh mitoonid az tarigh Bluetooth az computer beh telefon befresstid. Keh mamoolan telefon ha bluetooth darand vali computer ha bayad kart makhssoss beh computer vassl konid messl oon karthayeh PCMCI keh anten darad va amvaj Radioyi az kamputer beh telefon mifresstad.

 

Omidvaram etelaat kafi bashad va betonid az tarigh an SIS khood ra dorosst konid va beh telefon montaghel konid. Khabari bedahid keh kar kard ya nah va agar moshkel dashtid.

 

Ba tashakoor

Rosso Salmanzadeh

 

Dar zir ghessmati as SDK keh dar in mored toozih mideh:

 

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How to create a simple installation file

The simplest installation file is one which bundles the files of an application, and installs them to a specified location on the Symbian OS phone. The installation will not support multilingual files, secure installation, or display text or run a program at install time. The process is:

1. Create a text file with extension .pkg.

2. Specify the package header. In the simplest installation this consists of the application’s name, its UID, and its major, minor and build numbers.

3. Specify the source location of files which should be installed and their destination on the target machine.

4. Invoke the Installation File Generator on the package file.

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Example

The project file for a minimal installation is provided in epoc32ex\ToolsAndUtilities\HelloWorld.pkg. A listing of the file is given below:

#{"Minimal application"},(0x10004299),1,0,0
; Only two files to install for the minimal application
"HelloWorld.app"-"!:\system\apps\HelloWorld\HelloWorld.app"
"HelloWorld.rsc"-"!:\system\apps\HelloWorld\HelloWorld.rsc"

The package header defines the application’s name “Minimal application”, UID (0x10004299) ,major and minor build numbers (1 , 0) and the build number (0). The second line, preceded by a semi-colon, is a comment. The final two lines specify the location of the files which should be put in the installation file, and their destination on the target machine.

To create the installation file HelloWorld.sis, invoke the Installation File Generator on the package file:

makesis HelloWorld.pkg

HelloWorld.sis can then be installed on the target machine. After installation the application may be run by selecting the HelloWorld icon on the extras bar.

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Notes

• The UID is a unique number, used by Symbian OS to specify the application. For more information on the UID, review the documentation for your SDK (C++, OPL, Java).

• Relative path names should be used to specify source files. By default .sis files are compressed. If the NOCOMPRESS option is set then the Software Installer uses the filename directly. The .sis file will have a relative path which will result in a "Bad name" error when the .sis file is installed. This will happen with the PC installer and Symbian OS installer. The full path should be specified, as the .pkg file will result in a "Bad name" error when the .sis file is installed.

• The application's major and minor version numbers are required for version control (e.g. AppName 3.1 specifies a major build 3, and minor build 1).

• The build number is generally incremented whenever the component is rebuilt.

• Lines preceded by a semicolon are comments. These are not used by the Installation File Generator as part of the build process.

• The target drive is (probably) selected by the user. This is indicated in the pkg file by specifying ! as the destination drive, rather than, for example, c:.

• If directories in the installation path do not exist, they are automatically created by the Symbian OS Installer.

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Moozoh jalebi in roozha afrad dar moredesh sohbat mikonand in asst keh chandin nafar az massraf konandegan ba ham shodeh and va az Verizon, bozorgtarin sherkat mokhaberati Amrika shekayat kardeh and keh in sherkat telefon MOTOROLA (sherkat amrikayi foroshandeh telefon mannand Nokia, Sony Ericsson, Alcatel va gheyreh) ra emkan BLUETOOTH (blutoot) anra ghat kardeh asst.

 

Hamangooneh keh midoonid butoot ravesh jadidi asst keh vassayek elektroniki az tarigh amvaj radioyi ba ham mitoonand ertebat bargharar konand. Yani ghablan in rah az tarigh amvaj mavra ghermez INFRA RED bood keh badish in bood keh 2 ta dasstgah gharar bood robeh rooyeh ham bashand va yek digar ra bebinand. Messl telefon kontrol television (REMOTE CONTROL) keh majboor boodid begirid roberoyeh television kanal ra avaz konid. Agar miraftid dakhel otaghi digar kar nemikard.

 

Hala blutoot choon az amvaj radioyi esstefadeh mikonad shoma agar toyeh otagh digari ham beravid ta anja keh dar shoayeh mored nazar bashid dasstgah ha hamdigar ra peyda mikonand va mitoonand ba ham tammass begirand.

 

Hala yeki az esstefade hayeh in blutoot dar Telefon hayeh dassti asst keh jadidan hameh MODULE an ra darand keh shoma mitavanid ba blutoot az yek telefon beh telefon digar akss befresstid, FILE va barnameh befresstid (massalan dar SYMBIAN mitoonid SIS FILE ra befresstid keh barnameh i keh darid dosstetan install konad).

 

Hala yeki az esstefadeh hayeh az an in asst keh afrad aksshayi keh migirand az tarigh blutoot beh kamputer khodeshan mitavanand befresstand, bejayeh inkeh CABLE (kabl) va simi vassl konand ya IR esstefadeh konand.

 

Hala jaryan in maghaleyeh zir in asst keh sherkat mokhaberati Verizon choon ba sherkati digar gharardad darad va SERVICE i darad keh shoma az tarigh in service mitoonid akss, music, barnameh montaghel konid. Choon in service pooli asst, anha ham bekhatar gharardadi keh darand ba in sherkat, blutoot ra ghat kardeh and keh dar telefon kar nakonad. Keh afrad bejayeh esstefadeh az an service pooli, majani natavanand az in service esstefadeh konand.

 

Hala (chand ta hala az bala ta inja ? :-) akhe majbooram BACKGROUND va jaryanat posht in massaleh ra ghablan toozih bedam ta vared jaryan khood maghaleh besham). Hala in afrad az in sherkat mokhaberati shekayat kardeh and keh telefoneshan bayad blutoot ra dashteh bashad va hagh nadarad ghessmati az telefon keh bayad jozv assli telefon hayeh jadid bashad ghat shodeh bashad. Jaleb asst dar ayandeh bebinim natijeh in massaleh va dadegah chi mishe.

 

Choon dar Symbian va Series 60 momken asst dar ayandeh in jaryanat ra bebinim keh khood Series 60 choon digar beh soorat yek PLATFORM va yek OS dar miayad, momken asst sherkathayeh mokhaberati mokhtalef bekhahand ghessmathayeh mokhtalef ra ezafeh ya kam konand va in jaryan massael hoghoghi jalebi ra bevoojood khahad avard.

 

Dar payin mitavanid in maghaleh ra beh toor kamel bekhandid. Dar zemn dar payan amadeh asst keh sazeman SIG (Bluetooth Special Interest Group) gharar asst list telefon hayi keh mored tayid in sazeman bashad keh emkanat butoot dashteh bashand in list chap khahad shood. Barayeh inkeh telefoni dar in list bashad bayad khavass zir ra dar blutoot khood dashteh bashad :

 

• hands-free
• headset
• device ID
• file transfer
• object exchange
• service discovery
• dial-up networking
• serial port

 

Ba tashakoor

Rosso Salmanzadeh

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Verizon Wireless Users Sue Over Disabled Bluetooth Features

Fri Jan 14, 7:48 AM ET

Technology - Ziff Davis

Shelley Solheim - eWEEK

Verizon Wireless customers in California are suing the Bedminster, N.J.-based mobile phone operator for disabling some of the Bluetooth capabilities in a Motorola Inc. handset.

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According to the class action lawsuit, Verizon disabled some of the advertised Bluetooth features in Motorola's v710 phone.

"Verizon Wireless has enjoyed enormous financial gains by marketing and selling the popular Bluetooth v710 phone then disabling almost all of its Bluetooth capabilities, resulting in a degraded phone, which requires the customer to use other Verizon 'paid' services in place of the Bluetooth capabilities that were supposed to be part of the phone's Bluetooth features," the lawsuit said.

The v710 handset, which Verizon released in August, allows users to use their phones with a Bluetooth headset and with compatible Bluetooth car kits; however Verizon Wireless has disabled the file-sharing capability, which allows users to transfer photos or other files via Bluetooth to their PCs, printers or other devices.

Verizon says it disabled the Bluetooth file-transfer capability because it conflicted with contractual agreements it has with content providers participating in its "Get It Now" application download service offered with the v710.

"The v710 includes Get It Now, our virtual mall of games and productivity tools that customers can download. The agreements we have with our content providers preclude our allowing anyone to download these applications beyond the phone. The open architecture of Bluetooth could also allow customers to download Get It Now applications beyond the phone," said Verizon Wireless spokesperson Brenda Raney.

However, to use Verizon's Get It Now service, Verizon Wireless users must pay a fee to download applications, while users could, for example, transfer photos for free using Bluetooth.

Click here to read about Verizon's new service that will allow subscribers to access video, music and 3-D games on 3G handsets.

The lawsuit refers to a v710 product advertisement from Verizon Wireless that said, "With Bluetooth wireless technology you can make hands-free eyes-free calls, and connect to your PC or PDA whenever and wherever you want."

Motorola, for its part, said the decision over what Bluetooth capabilities to include in handsets is solely up to the wireless operators.

"Those decisions are left to the wireless network operators, and they vary from operator to operator," said Motorola spokesperson Alan Buddendeck. "There are myriad reasons why a wireless operator would provide a certain level of service or of the Bluetooth profile, such as what their network will support, what they are willing to support as a business, as well as contractual agreements."

"There are myriad factors that can affect the decisions by a carrier about what levels will be a free experience or paid for," Buddendeck said. "Nobody ever said Bluetooth would always be cost-free."

The Bluetooth Special Interest Group, which establishes the Bluetooth profiles, sympathized with frustrated v710 users.

"The Bluetooth SIG is very disappointed in this implementation decision and believes many consumers who purchased this phone for the Bluetooth capabilities are frustrated and confused as a result," said Michael Foley, executive director of the SIG. "Users have realistic expectations that Bluetooth-enabled mobile phones will work with their other Bluetooth enabled devices including cars, headsets, PCs, printers, PDAs, etc.," he said.

"While we on the technical side understand that certain profiles must be implemented to enable various usage scenarios, we shouldn't expect consumers, for example, to realize their phone does not have the OBEX or file-sharing profile. They just know they want to send a picture from their camera phone to their PC and can't. And they don't know why."

The Bluetooth SIG this year plans to publish a "best of breed" list for Bluetooth-equipped mobile phones and other devices, Foley said.

"These documents will outline the profiles that the SIG (based on consumer expectations) would expect in a best-of-breed device and the profiles that would be expected in a basic device. The intent is to set the bar and match the expectations of consumers with the features implemented by manufacturers," Foley said.

"To give a snap shot, the SIG suggests a basic mobile phone with Bluetooth technology include the following profiles: hands-free, headset, device ID, file transfer, object exchange, service discovery, dial-up networking and serial port. A best-of-breed mobile phone is recommended to also include profiles such as advanced and generic audio distribution, audio/video remote control, SIM access, human interface device, cordless telephony, PAN and printing," he said.

 

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