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Re: multi subs


Hi Vic,

Yes, that's why some DSP actually do wonders.

Tony


--- In KLANS@yahoogroups.com, Victor Wong WL <vicwongwl@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Tony,
>
>
> Hate to have to chip in here!!! But I'm doing it!!!
>
>
> If u are talking hypothetical situation. Then I will say hypothetically u can
use a state of the art digital EQ device and precisely join from 70hz. Can't u?
It's hypothetical isn't it?
>
>
> But in real life it's not a breeze, right?
>
>
> Cheers,
> Vic.
>
> PS: over to u lee. Speak your mind, please.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Tony <tonyht@...>
> To: KLANS@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2009 14:10:58
> Subject: [KLANS] Re: multi subs
>
>
>
> How do you define bass? 80hz downwards? 200hz downwards? All speakers(good
ones) capable of being flat at least to 80hz. With placement closer to
wall/corners which reinforces the bass it would go down few more decades before
roll off. Let's say hypothetically your main speakers give out a flat response
from 70hz to 20khz and you wanted to add more bass from 20hz to 70khz but the
problem starts no matter where you set your crossover there will be a
frequencies overlap at 70hz.
>
> Even you mentioned that when you said " There was a slight thickening and loss
of transient detail, but due to the low crossover point, this wasn't obtrusive."
(Audiofile review of R305).
>
> Tony
> p.s. Already watched that but not in 3D though. Anyway, nothing like watching
that in the comfort of home wearing my favorite fire truck jammies.
>
> --- In KLANS@yahoogroups. com, "leesjammies" <leesjammies@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > I dont understand your numbers. can u explain what you're saying? all I know
is the sub doesnt disturb the main speaker and only if there is bass then it
starts to work. so all your theories about colouration doesnt apply.
> >
> > I can recommend a better movie for you and a new one. Showing in GSC now and
even see in 3d - A Christmas Carol, maybe you can learn something from the
scrooge guy. humbug
> >
> >
> > --- In KLANS@yahoogroups. com, "Tony" <tonyht@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > My subwoofer is DIY. Cheap stuff.
> > >
> > > But even looking at R205 specs at the lowest crossover setting of 25hz at
the volume of 75db of drops about 25db at at 70kz. If you have a speaker and
flat frequencies response from 70hz to 20khz wouldn't an increase of 50db at
70hz affect the quality of the main speakers?
> > > It is worse at 85db because it extend to 200hz.
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > > (Tonite HT day watching Mission impossible - enjoy the part where they
disguise with the plastic face)
> > >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
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wa piah-leh tony... how to add mono switch, you say. expensip equipment, also you say. now you say i can skip or hit delete. you say all lah.   why you no...
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... Thanks for the reply. ... Still waiting. Also one Tony...
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Tony, ... Peaks and dips occur in all rooms irrespective of size with mid-bas boom being a worse case scenario. Room treatment is a must for all proper...
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Hi Rabin, Actually, if i used one of those test cds for ICE, that provide definite track no, and type of hz..........then only can i find if any of the low hz...
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UV, Yes it does look bad until you realise that your multi subs are not so much about the lows but about what they do to the modes in your room. I would think...
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Hi Rabin, Despited unable to hear much, surprisingly there is some subtle 'feel' to the low hz, something not possible without the subs. So it's either want it...
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Hi, If its loud enough, moves enough air you will feel it. Listen to the bass drum of a marching band, pitch is not low yet you can feel it. Rgds ...
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