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Re: Twins "non-paradox," Consciousness, and the "Nature of Now TIME"   Message List  
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- - Twins "Non-Paradox," Consciousness, and the "Nature of Now TIME" - -

Dr. Atso Eerikainen [time] wrote: - - - [Replies follow a: "Dear Atso."]

"I am confident that the unifying of GR and QM is possible only if the
ontological fact of the Now-time (nunc aeternum) is accepted in physics"

Dear Atso! "ALL real time is now time." Every other temporal concept is:
NOT real time t (or real "Time T" *) but is a real temporal scalar label
as is any date in history or any temporal concept of a future itinerary.

"Arthur Eddington - thought that our impression of "becoming," of a
flowing time, is so powerful and central to our experience that it must
correspond to something in the objective world."

Dear Atso again! Temporal scalar labels (similar to pricetags) do NOT, &
can NOT flow (see The Fabric Of Reality by David Deutsch). They however,
can be "transported" as scalar cargos by a "Mental Vector Process, MVP."

"Eddington thought that we experience time in two distinct ways: exter-
nally through the senses and internally within the mind."

Dear Atso again! The temporal scalar labels arrive at one's "MTP, Mental
Thought Process," through one's senses, at which moment they become real
time or "Now TIME" (with "TIME" = the Sum of t & "Rhythm Based Time T.")

"Penrose has thought similarly that there is a discrepancy between our
minds and the theories about reality of the physical world. This fact is
telling us something about physics that presumably must underlie our
conscious perceptions."

Dear Atso again! "One's conscious perceptions are part & parcel of one's
"Mental Thought Processes, MTPs" but "Mental Vector Processes, MVPs" can
start either outside in "the physical world," or inside, i.e. in memory.

"Paul Davies agrees with Eddington and Penrose that something important
is missing from the physics of time. There must be "an inner sense of
time buried deep within human consciousness -"

Dear Atso again! What seems "missing" is the difference between "MVPs" &
"MTPs." There ARE "inner" clocks (e.g. the SupraChiasmatic Nucleus, SCN)
for which the temporal scalar labels ARE NOT part of human consciousness
UNTIL they're transported into consciousness, into "Now TIME" by "MVPs."

And best wishes to you also, peter b, / ph.d., / so-you-see, / po-et-ry!


* "Time T" is "Mental Perception of Lateness RELATIVE to an OnTimeness."

Major "RBC" Concepts are at: <http://www.egroups.com/message/time/14607>

2 page glossary is @ http://www.animalcontact.com/research/glossary.html

1 pg. side précises http://www.animalcontact.com/research/abstracts.html



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