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#2954 From: peter beamish <beamish@...>
Date: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:50 pm
Subject: Re: KJ FORUM TA111 C2 Weedon : THE GUV'NOR
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Herbert Müller sent: KARL JASPERS FORUM, TA 111 (Beamish), Commentary 2.

THE GUV'NOR, by Rob Weedon, 5th November 2008, posted 12th November '08.

THE GUV'NOR - - - - [Note: Each line of Rob's poem is separated by "/."]

Somewhere in the brain / is the Co-ordinator / of mind and body -- /
this august person / commands the totality / of your processes.

His competence is / beyond estimation out / of all assessment; /he knows
what you think / before you think it; gives you / to feel what you feel.

Orchestrates heartbeat / breathing and blood pressure like /a three-ring
circus. / Your high-noon darkness / is for him broad day; he is /
more you than you are.

Consultant in doubt / companion in solitude / immortal parent /
inward superself / co-regent with deity / and a loving friend.

Can we dialogue / with our Guv'nors? They hear us / but can we hear
them? / All the dreams we have / (their memoranda to us) /
we too seldom read. / - -  by Rob Weedon e-mail <rweedon@...>

Dear Robert,

One's "Mental Thought Processes, MTPs" seem not confined to a brain, but
rather to an entire "Central Nervous System, CNS," which may indeed, via
"Rhythm Based Communication, RBC Theory," be all bodily cells, inc. DNA.

One of the most important "precesses" in consciousness is when a mass &/
energy vector transports environmental & memory, scalar labels (as time,
colour, shape, etc.), into one's "subjective reality" (one's mind). Such
has been called a "Mental Vector Process, MVP," and, it is ANALYZED, but
NOT, in any way, "commanded" by one's "Mental Thought Process" or "MTP."

Yes one's "MTP" knows what you will think and feel, before you have such
thoughts & feelings but the lag intervals may only be fractions of secs.

How can you "presume a gender" for one's "Mental Thought Process, MTP!?"

How is your "Mental Thought Process, MTP," a "co-regent with deity?" For
a "deity concept" as below, see <http://egroups.com/message/time/14678>.

R.P."But to unite all souls - we will probably require the idea of God."

CETA: If a "CareTaker God" involves information encoded in "Rhythm Based
Time" (also suggested as "informaTion") then a resulting form of commun-
ication can be universal and unite all living cells, and thus all souls.

Sincerely, 'peter' c. beamish, ph.d., director, "CETA-Research," Canada.
"CETA" is: "CommunicaTions Et (And) 'TEMPS (TIME = t + T)' AssociaTion."
2 page glossary is @ http://www.animalcontact.com/research/glossary.html
1 pg. side précises http://www.animalcontact.com/research/abstracts.html
- The seemingly important "MVP Concept" DEFINES: "A New Mind Concept." -

#2953 From: DonEMitchell <mitch@...>
Date: Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:58 pm
Subject: Dreams: a mapping of the recent to the matrix of life's memories
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Dreams: a mapping of the recent to the matrix of life's memories

The following article, Making Memories Last, by Greg Miller for Science Magazine reads about memory transfer in rats after a function of time from the hippocampus (known for short-term memory) into the cortex. Mentioned is that the reactivation of memories during sleep is a process involved in mapping short-term memory to cortical, long-term memories. (See last paragraph.)

See also: http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/summary/sci;315/5817/1360

Hippocampus: From Wikipedia:
"The hippocampus is a part of the forebrain, located in the medial temporal lobe.
It belongs to the limbic system and plays major roles in short term memory
and spatial navigation. Humans and other mammals have two hippocampi,
one in each side of the brain."



Making Memories Last

Source:
http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2008/1107/3

By Greg Miller

ScienceNOW Daily News
7 November 2008

When it comes to the neurobiology of memory, the hippocampus typically gets most of the credit. But although this brain region is crucial for recording new memories, like the name of someone you just met at a bar, people with a damaged hippocampus can still recall memories from days of old. Many neuroscientists believe this is because lasting memories get shifted to the cerebral cortex for permanent storage. Little is known about how this might happen, but a study in today's issue of Science provides some clues.

The new study, by neuroscientists Kaori Takehara-Nishiuchi and Bruce McNaughton, then at the University of Arizona, Tucson, builds on a 2003 study on memory by Takehara-Nishiuchi. She and colleagues trained rats to blink when they heard a tone signaling a mild shock to the eyelid. When the researchers removed the hippocampus a day after the training, rats no longer remembered to blink when they heard the tone, but removing the hippocampus 4 weeks after the training session had no effect: The rats still blinked. Conversely, removing the medial prefrontal cortex (mPFC) a day after the training caused no memory lapses, but removing this region 4 weeks later made the rats forget all about the tone. The findings suggested that whereas the hippocampus is essential for short-term memory storage, the mPFC is critical for long-term storage.

To investigate further, Takehara-Nishiuchi used hair-thin electrodes to record the activity of individual neurons in the mPFC of rats. This time the animals received more complex training. Over the course of 2 months, the rats heard the tone in two different contexts--in a square enclosure, where the tone always preceded a shock; or in a circular enclosure, where the tone and shock occurred randomly. By 2 weeks, rats had learned to blink when they heard the tone inside the square enclosure, where it reliably predicted a shock. But they ignored the tone inside the circular enclosure, where it did not. At the same time, about a quarter of the rat's mPFC neurons fired at higher rates when the tone sounded inside the square enclosure. This selective firing developed gradually over the first 2 weeks of training and persisted for the rest of the training period. The time course of this change in neural firing is similar to the time course of memory consolidation in the mPFC suggested by Takehara-Nishiuchi's 2003 study.

The current findings bolster a prevalent hypothesis about how long-term memory storage might work, says Bruno Bontempi, a neuroscientist at the Université de Bordeaux in Talence, France. The study provides electrophysiological evidence that "memories are progressively laid down in the cortex as they mature over time and become independent of the hippocampus," he says. A lingering question, Bontempi says, is exactly how memories become encoded in the mPFC. Research with both rodents and people has suggested that new memories are reactivated during sleep (Science, 9 March 2007, p. 1360). One possibility, Bontempi says, is that this memory reactivation has a role in changing neural firing patterns and stabilizing memories in the cortex.

© 2008 American Association for the Advancement of Science.

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-DonEMitchell
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#2952 From: peter beamish <beamish@...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2008 9:50 am
Subject: "TIME" defined, "MIND" studied.
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Dr. Rajiv Pande [time] wrote on November 4th, 2008 @ "NLTime" 10:08 hrs.
"The problem with the QM time is a sort of "dangerous" reference to
subjective experience - which is non-quantifiable. Somehow science as we
have it today does not accept subjective experience as a legitimate
study - yet there are some major loopholes in our logic that can only be
resolved by boldly addressing these subjective issues."

Dear Rajiv, KARL JASPERS FORUM, Hitoshi, Gary, Leo, Atso, Frank, et al.,

Here is a seemingly logical explanation relating to the obvious problems
resulting from the above contention that "science - does not accept sub-
jective experience as a legitimate study." Let one presume that thoughts
are either: a) true (as agreed upon by MANY minds), or are b) false, and
imagined. An example of a) could be two plus three equals five, while an
example of b) could be the contention of one living with some dinosaurs!

Case a) is a "subjective experience" that is a "subjective reality," and
for this case both subjective and objective realities can co-exist. Case
b) is a subjective experience that is not agreed upon by many minds, and
such a subjective experience does not conform with an objective reality.

Above was so stated in a letter to Prof. Herbert Müller, Director of the
KARL JASPERS FORUM, (lines 21-22), on November 06, 2008, and also refer-
enced in the "time forum" @ <http://www.egroups.com/message/time/14643>,
sent simultaneously at a temporal scalar label (a "Timetag") of 7.0 hrs.

Describe subjective thinking as: One's "Mental Thought Processes, MTPs."

For "MTPs" both "objective reality" & "subjective reality" CAN co-exist.

Now let's apply this to our definition "TIME IS THE READING OF A CLOCK."
1) Such reading is by one's "MTP" in one's present, in one's "Now TIME."
2) Such a "TIME" must be capable of also being read by many other minds.
3) Such a "CLOCK," if not accessible for an objective reality, must then
be synchronized with other clocks that can be available for other minds.

So how does this affect a definition of "mind" (of event space "Essos")?

"Mind" has been defined as a VERY DYNAMIC VOLUME surrounding each living
organism, and containing ALL of the organism's "subjective reality." But
one's mind may also contain SOME "objective reality" if its knowledge is
shared by many other minds, so that there exists a "scientific reality."

Both outer & inner edges of mind are formed by "Mental Vector Processes,
or MVPs," considered as "Most Valuable Players" in one's "Game of Life."
The inner "mind edge" separates memory, education and one's unconscious.

For a "Definition of Mind" see http://www.egroups.com/message/time/13743
2 page glossary is @ http://www.animalcontact.com/research/glossary.html
1 pg. side précises http://www.animalcontact.com/research/abstracts.html
"A duration (of time)" is this day #(365250+/-1461)+365250+2870=~#733370
in this 3rd Millennium. "A duraTion (of Time)" is: day #314 of this "Sun
Cycle," or this 07:00:00 hours, minutes, secs, of "NLTime" (not "time").
Kindest Regards and best wishes, 'peter' c. b., "CETA-Research," Canada.

#2951 From: DonEMitchell <mitch@...>
Date: Sat Nov 8, 2008 4:55 pm
Subject: Five Layers of Significance --Please review
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Dear KMTech,


I would be pleased to receive any feedback from those that consider themselves to be at a peer level with some aspect or another of the following Esoterica References topic...

Five Layers of Significance in semiological processes

Any comment is welcome, in-forum or off-line, save slurs, slanders, or common hubris.  Any suggestions toward improvement would be greatly appreciated.

As this is part of an early and developing Theory of Informational Perception (TIP) [quite rough] of mine toward emergent processing of information streams to reveal significant structuralization toward automated series predictions (an artifact-ual intelligence [aI] initiative toward an agency of learned responsiveness), your feedback will help me properly situate the verbiage and diction toward something understandable, which to my knowledge is original thought.  Therefore, your patience and forbearing attitude will be reckoned as a gesture of friendship and collaborative foundation.


Thank you, warmly.

Regards,

DonEMitchell

#2950 From: peter beamish <beamish@...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2008 9:50 am
Subject: Re: GROUND RULES FOR ACCESS TO CONSCIOUSNESS
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KARL JASPERS FORUM, Target Article #111, Commentary 1, by Dr. H. Müller.
GROUND RULES FOR ACCESS TO CONSCIOUSNESS, - (11/01/08, posted 11/05/08).
Dr. H.M. asks: How do you see the following rules related to your TA111?
(For TA111 as 2 pages see: <http://www.egroups.com/message/time/14607>.)
[REPLIES AND REFERENCES (also [<www.kjf.ca>]) are in [square brackets].]

"The approach to the mind-brain question is conditional to some inter-
related rules which are very simple, in fact so simple that it may seem
absurd to state them explicitly, except for the reason that they are
universally neglected." [ONE'S MIND IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM ONE'S BRAIN!]
[A New Definition of Mind = <http://www.egroups.com/message/time/13743>]
[2 pg glossary is <http://www.animalcontact.com/research/glossary.html>]

1. THE MIND CANNOT BE MIND-INDEPENDENT - - - ["RBC Theory" agrees 100%.]

"This is obvious; but occidental thinking, including epistemology, has
since the time of Parmenides been based on the assumption that reality
is mind-independently pre-structured (MIR-belief). That is the essence
of metaphysics-ontology (and its derivatives, such as realism, positiv-
ism, materialism, exclusive objectivity, etc). Metaphysics assumptions
govern thinking even when metaphysics is said to be rejected." [By "RBC"
models, both "objective reality" and "subjective reality" can co-exist.]

"No part of reality is mind-independent- - - [Au contraire as scientific
reality exists when facts can be reproduced, by some other mind, at some
other location, and at some other "temporal scalar label" or "timetag."]
- but much of it can be treated as if were mind-independent." - [Such is
mind-independent if it is the above scientific reality, and lies outside
the volume (VERY dynamic as per above definition) of an operating mind.]
"However, even this as-if-MIR view is not possible for the mind. - - [Au
contraire, as one's "Mental Thought Process, MTP" can "as-if" anything.]
The result is that the mind cannot be real in the metaphysical sense,-
[Metaphysics is "beyond physics, beyond science," and, MAY not be real.]
- and in practice it disappears from discussion; its existence may even
be explicitly denied. ["Mental Vector Processes, MVPs" AND minds exist!]
That prevents access to the question of 'consciousness' and the mind-
brain relation problem." [Au contraire! "MTPs" AND consciousness exist!]

2. THINKING CAN ONLY START FROM ONGOING EXPERIENCE - - [No, via "MTPs!"]

"This is also obvious,- [Au contraire, as one's "Mental Thought Process,
MTP" can "think" about productions, plans, imaginary concepts & dreams.]
- but when reality is seen as mind-independent, one tends to want (after
an ontological leap of faith) to start from a fictitious primary exter-
nal, mind-independent reality. That leads to a neglect or denial of sub-
jective experience in theory-building." - [Subjective experience & "true
subjective reality," can "show the way" to a "true scientific reality."]

3. MENTAL STRUCTURES ARE IN THE MIND, NOT VICE VERSA - - - [Agree 100%.]

"Mental structures (concerning everything, including self and world)
occur upon the background of encompassing experience, which encompasses
them, and not vice versa. For instance the mind cannot be found in
nature, because nature is a mental structure." [But, "mind" is in life!]

#2949 From: peter beamish <beamish@...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2008 1:40 pm
Subject: Re: Uncertainty
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John Van Winkle [KMTech] wrote: [Replies/comments are in "[]," as such.]

Distance is a property of space - NOT of temporal concepts. [p 11/03/08]

"The principle 13. above that they are prescribing for the mind is actu-
ally a principle of any scientific observation of nature, ever." - [Ok!]

First, let me start by saying these two replies are logically at odds
with each other. [Au contraire! Temporal scalar labels are "TRANSPORTED"
through space. They are NOT a "property," as "location," of such space.]

Second, what I am about to explain is my understanding of how "distance"
is quite clearly a property of time - - [Au contraire! Temporal concepts
are scalar labels, like colour, & are independent of space, & distance.]

- the matters of mind having a "time/time". [WHAT is your "time/time?"!]

Consider: There is no "performance of measurement" that does not involve
a "temporal" principle.[Measurements involve "MVPs" travelling in time.]

There is no "distance" which can "be" "measured" - be/measured - which
are action words, without the employ of a temporal principle. -[Such may
employ a "duration," which is NOT "_Real_ TIME" (ONLY found IN a mind)!]

Quantum Entanglement / Spooky Action At a Distance [No!! Such is "RBC!"]

At first glance "wow, somehow these things must be communicating faster
than light".- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ["RBC" can be "superluminal."]

Which, we have classified as "impossible" or "not according to known
rules". - - [The "rules" of "RBC" involve "mass/energy-independence!"] -

Consider perhaps "space" is made of discrete elements.- - [Au contraire!
Space contains discrete elements, as neutrinos. Space is made of space!]

- only - requirement for Space to perform its function [is to be there!]

But the logic is self relative and of simple rules 10. 2 in Binary. [??]

So, GIVEN RULES and a RUNNING-NESS of the rules.. We can enact, concept-
ually, a "space" that is inflated to a "size" by the act of logical
elements talking to each other. - - - - - ["Elements" DO NOT "talk!!"] -

Time/time - - [What is your definition here in expanded English please.]

Not spacetime. - [Bravo!! Not "spacetime" but rather "time-in-space."] -

For these concepts please see: http://www.egroups.com/message/time/14607
2 page glossary is @ http://www.animalcontact.com/research/glossary.html
1 pg. side précises http://www.animalcontact.com/research/abstracts.html
Sincerely, 'peter' c. beamish, ph.d., director, "CETA-Research," Canada.
"CETA" is: "CommunicaTions Et (And) 'TEMPS (TIME = t + T)' AssociaTion."
- The seemingly important "MVP Concept" DEFINES: "A New Mind Concept." -

ps. Where are you located & what are your academic strengths/background?

#2948 From: "John Van Winkle" <jack_vanwinkle@...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2008 4:07 am
Subject: Re: [quantumrelativity] Fwd: Re: Uncertainty
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--- In quantumrelativity@yahoogroups.com, "Allen Francom"
<light.rock@...> wrote:

Okay,

-----------------------------------------------------------------
[Distance is a property of space - NOT of temporal concepts.]

"The principle 13. above that they are prescribing for the mind is actu-
ally a principle of any scientific observation of nature, ever." - [Ok!]
-----------------------------------------------------------------

First, let me start by saying these two replies are logically at odds
with
each other.

Second, what I am about to explain is my understanding of how "distance"
is
quite clearly a property of time, which, is what caught my attention of
the
matters of mind having a "time/time".

Consider

There is no "performance of measurement" that does not involve a
"temporal"
principle.

There is no "distance" which can "be" "measured" - be/measured - which
are
action words, without the
employ of a temporal principle.  ( measure-ing, measure-ed... )

There is no "noun" without context of "verb" - "be-ing".  "There [is] an
apple ( right now )" - for example.

Quantum Entanglement / Spooky Action At a Distance

At first glance "wow, somehow these things must be communicating faster
than
light"

Which, we have classified as "impossible" or "not according to known
rules".

Instead, we MIGHT consider that the entangled particles actually do not
have
measurable distance, by and between themselves for the effects that
matter.

From this observation and consideration we might consider "maybe space
is
emergent of quantum behavior".

Now, maybe I should have started with this, since it makes everything
very
simple, ...

Mass has to "be able" to "collide".  We totally take for granted "how"
this
process actually works.

We have a magic box of space that takes care of all the missing details
of
"here" and "there" and "crash boom".

Logic demands an explanation.  Classrooms tend to say "Don't ask stupid
questions".  Well, what is the answer ?  Magic ?

The answer IMHO is Logic

Consider perhaps "space" is made of discrete elements.

There is however NO requirement for these elements to be PHYSICAL or of
any
"inherent size".  - AT ALL

The only logical requirements for Space to perform its function are
Discrete
Elements, and Logical Adjacency.
This is connected to that.

We do this all the time in computers, where giant computer screens are
powered by logic of essentially "no size".

But the logic is self relative and of simple rules 10.  2 in Binary.

So, GIVEN RULES and a RUNNING-NESS of the rules...

We can enact, conceptually, a "space" that is inflated to a "size" by
the
act of logical elements talking to each other.

The size is however only known to the words being exchanged.  The logic
of
no size knows only its immediately logical neighbor(s).

So, huge big giant universe, no problem right now, no actual inherent
size.

The size is the process - goingness - of the rules.

Time/time

Not spacetime.

Space is emergent.









On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Jack Van Winkle jack_vanwinkle@...wrote:

>
>
> *peter beamish beamish@...* wrote:
>
> To: KMTech@yahoogroups.com
> From: peter beamish beamish@...
> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:14:06 -0330
> Subject: [KMTech] Re: Uncertainty
>
> John Van Winkle [KMTech] wrote: ---> [Replies are in [square
brackets].]
>
> "- to Mass/Energy independent communication..." - - - - [That is
"RBC."]
>
> 13. All "TIME" is "A Mental Thought Process (MTP) Reading _OF_ A
Clock."
> "TIME" is NOT a reading ON (AT or IN) a clock. - - - ["RBC"
Quotations.]
>
> "Fascinating, a macroscopic Time/time for the mind." - - - - - - - -
[?]
> ["TIME" is: (time t + "Time T"), as "Now TIME," of, and ONLY OF a
mind.]
> [ALL other temporal concepts are simply scalar labels, outside of
mind.]
>
> "Did you mention to these guys that "Space/time" can readily be
> envisioned as a "Time/time" of logical elements of no inherent size,
and
> thus "space" emerges, as well as mass, gravity, etc., ?" - - - - - -
[?]
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - [Please
explain!!]
>
> "It is quite simple now that I've done it daily for a few years."
> [Done exactly what? Please give examples of what exactly you have
done!]
>
> "Mostly it involves simply breaking the illusion of distance as per
Jim
> W. as an inherent property of the universe instead of as an emergent
> property." [Distance is a property of space - NOT of temporal
concepts.]
>
> "The principle 13. above that they are prescribing for the mind is
actu-
> ally a principle of any scientific observation of nature, ever." -
[Ok!]
>
> "ANY "clock" that can be conceived to fulfill the purpose of the clock
> such that its rules in relation to other clocks physical or not, ...
it
> is the running of the rules between the clocks and not the clocks that
> is the reality." - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - [? Please
explain.]
>
> "Exactly." - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[?]
>
> "Push them a bit towards Wolfram's principle of computational equival-
> ence in this exact context." - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[?]
>
> "There's an "aha" <- what an understatement." - - - [?? Please
explain!]
>
> ps. Where are you located & what are your academic
strengths/background?
>
>
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#2947 From: peter beamish <beamish@...>
Date: Mon Nov 3, 2008 10:04 pm
Subject: Re: Uncertainty
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John Van Winkle [KMTech] wrote: ---> [Replies are in [square brackets].]

"- to Mass/Energy independent communication..." - - - - [That is "RBC."]

13. All "TIME" is "A Mental Thought Process (MTP) Reading _OF_ A Clock."
"TIME" is NOT a reading ON (AT or IN) a clock. - - - ["RBC" Quotations.]

"Fascinating, a macroscopic Time/time for the mind." - - - - - - - - [?]
["TIME" is: (time t + "Time T"), as "Now TIME," of, and ONLY OF a mind.]
[ALL other temporal concepts are simply scalar labels, outside of mind.]

"Did you mention to these guys that "Space/time" can readily be
envisioned as a "Time/time" of logical elements of no inherent size, and
thus "space" emerges, as well as mass, gravity, etc., ?" - - - - - - [?]
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - [Please explain!!]

"It is quite simple now that I've done it daily for a few years."
[Done exactly what? Please give examples of what exactly you have done!]

"Mostly it involves simply breaking the illusion of distance as per Jim
W. as an inherent property of the universe instead of as an emergent
property." [Distance is a property of space - NOT of temporal concepts.]

"The principle 13. above that they are prescribing for the mind is actu-
ally a principle of any scientific observation of nature, ever." - [Ok!]

"ANY "clock" that can be conceived to fulfill the purpose of the clock
such that its rules in relation to other clocks physical or not, ... it
is the running of the rules between the clocks and not the clocks that
is the reality." - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - [? Please explain.]

"Exactly." - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - [?]

"Push them a bit towards Wolfram's principle of computational equival-
ence in this exact context." - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - [?]

"There's an "aha" <- what an understatement." - - - [?? Please explain!]

ps. Where are you located & what are your academic strengths/background?

#2946 From: "John Van Winkle" <jack_vanwinkle@...>
Date: Mon Nov 3, 2008 12:46 pm
Subject: Fwd: Re: Uncertainty
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So THAT's why we have 7-11's everywhere...

:)-

Point being though, there is a dark side of that equation, and I am at a loss
to ultimately quantify it save for "absolute boredom".

"Yay, I'm free !"... "Now what ?" 

Gee gosh isn't that a good question...

( Fire up the reincarnation machine, that was fun, let's do it again ! )

Back to

Mass/Energy independent communication...

--------------
13. All "TIME" is "A Mental Thought Process (MTP) Reading _OF_ A Clock."

"TIME" is NOT a reading ON (AT or IN) a clock.
--------------

Fascinating, a macroscopic Time/time for the mind.

Did you mention to these guys that "Space/time" can readily be envisioned as a "Time/time"
of logical elements of no inherent size, and thus "space" emerges, as well as mass,
gravity, etc., ?

It is quite simple now that I've done it daily for a few years. 

Mostly it involves simply breaking the illusion of distance as per Jim W. as an inherent
property of the universe instead of as an emergent property.

The principle 13. above that they are prescribing for the mind is actually a principle
of any scientific observation of nature, ever.

ANY "clock" that can be conceived to fulfill the purpose of the clock such that
its rules in relation to other clocks physical or not, ... it is the running of the
rules between the clocks and not the clocks that is the reality.

Exactly.

Push them a bit towards Wolfram's principle of computational equivalence in
this exact context.

There's an "aha" <- what an understatement.





On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Jack Van Winkle <jack_vanwinkle@...> wrote:


peter beamish <beamish@...> wrote:
To: cyclesi@yahoogroups.com, cyclesp@yahoogroups.com,
cosmology-mathematics-and-philosophy@yahoogroups.com,
KMTech@yahoogroups.com, 4DWorldx@yahoogroups.com
From: peter beamish <beamish@...>
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 17:00:00 -0330
Subject: [KMTech] Re: Uncertainty

Gary Vezzoli [cyclesi] wrote: [Reply in [square brackets], plus letter.]


- - "The glory of science is, that it is freeing the soul – breaking the
mental Manacles – getting the brain out of bondage – giving courage to
thought – filling the world with mercy, justice and joy." (by Ingersoll)


[Presumably Robert G. Ingersoll 1833-99, known as "the great agnostic!"]


Dear Gary et al.


So let us then "break the mental manacles" of: "A Newton/Einstein time!"


The "Mental Thought Processes, MTPs," of organisms: a) when their "basic
needs" are met, and, b) when they are under low biological stresses, are
"out of bondage" with our human planning, production, and creation. They
then "fill the world" with the joy of altruism, by communicating using a
different & CYCLICAL temporal form, dependent on synchronization between
any two or more "MTPs." Such CYCLES can be: of external, and geophysical
nature ("deistical?") or internal and "MTP" created, and thence accepted
by organisms desiring lower stresses via altruism and not via evolution.


Ingersoll's foundations of agnosticism MAY surely crumble then collapse!


Such a "CYCLICAL form" allows "A Mass/Energy Independent Communication!"


For these concepts please see: http://www.egroups.com/message/time/14607

2 page glossary is @ http://www.animalcontact.com/research/glossary.html

1 pg. side précises http://www.animalcontact.com/research/abstracts.html


Sincerely, 'peter' c. beamish, ph.d., director, "CETA-Research," Canada.

"CETA" is: "CommunicaTions Et (And) 'TEMPS (TIME = t + T)' AssociaTion."

- The seemingly important "MVP Concept" DEFINES: "A New Mind Concept." -

"A duration (of time)" is this day #(365250+/-1461)+365250+2863=~#733363
in this 3rd Millennium. "A duraTion (of Time)" is: day #307 of this "Sun
Cycle," or this 17:00:00 hours, minutes, secs, of "NLTime" (not "time").

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#2945 From: peter beamish <beamish@...>
Date: Sun Nov 2, 2008 7:50 pm
Subject: Re: Uncertainty
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Gary Vezzoli [cyclesi] wrote: [Reply in [square brackets], plus letter.]


- - "The glory of science is, that it is freeing the soul – breaking the
mental Manacles – getting the brain out of bondage – giving courage to
thought – filling the world with mercy, justice and joy." (by Ingersoll)


[Presumably Robert G. Ingersoll 1833-99, known as "the great agnostic!"]


Dear Gary et al.


So let us then "break the mental manacles" of: "A Newton/Einstein time!"


The "Mental Thought Processes, MTPs," of organisms: a) when their "basic
needs" are met, and, b) when they are under low biological stresses, are
"out of bondage" with our human planning, production, and creation. They
then "fill the world" with the joy of altruism, by communicating using a
different & CYCLICAL temporal form, dependent on synchronization between
any two or more "MTPs." Such CYCLES can be: of external, and geophysical
nature ("deistical?") or internal and "MTP" created, and thence accepted
by organisms desiring lower stresses via altruism and not via evolution.


Ingersoll's foundations of agnosticism MAY surely crumble then collapse!


Such a "CYCLICAL form" allows "A Mass/Energy Independent Communication!"


For these concepts please see: http://www.egroups.com/message/time/14607

2 page glossary is @ http://www.animalcontact.com/research/glossary.html

1 pg. side précises http://www.animalcontact.com/research/abstracts.html


Sincerely, 'peter' c. beamish, ph.d., director, "CETA-Research," Canada.

"CETA" is: "CommunicaTions Et (And) 'TEMPS (TIME = t + T)' AssociaTion."

- The seemingly important "MVP Concept" DEFINES: "A New Mind Concept." -

"A duration (of time)" is this day #(365250+/-1461)+365250+2863=~#733363
in this 3rd Millennium. "A duraTion (of Time)" is: day #307 of this "Sun
Cycle," or this 17:00:00 hours, minutes, secs, of "NLTime" (not "time").

#2944 From: DonEMitchell <mitch@...>
Date: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:25 am
Subject: Scientists prove it really is a thin line between love and hate
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Scientists prove it really is a thin line between love and hate

The same brain circuitry is involved in both extreme emotions – but hate retains a semblance of rationality

By Steve Connor, Science Editor
Wednesday, 29 October 2008


Love and hate are intimately linked within the human brain, according to a study that has discovered the biological basis for the two most intense emotions.

Scientists studying the physical nature of hate have found that some of the nervous circuits in the brain responsible for it are the same as those that are used during the feeling of romantic love – although love and hate appear to be polar opposites.

A study using a brain scanner to investigate the neural circuits that become active when people look at a photograph of someone they say they hate has found that the "hate circuit" shares something in common with the love circuit.

The findings could explain why both hate and romantic love can result in similar acts of extreme behaviour – both heroic and evil – said Professor Semir Zeki of University College London, who led the study published in the on-line journal PloS ONE.

"Hate is often considered to be an evil passion that should, in a better world, be tamed, controlled and eradicated. Yet to the biologist, hate is a passion that is of equal interest to love," Professor Zeki said.

"Like love, it is often seemingly irrational and can lead individual to heroic and evil deeds. How can two opposite sentiments lead to the same behaviour?"

The study advertised for volunteers to take part in the study and 17 people were chosen who professed a deep hatred for one individual. Most chose an ex-lover or a competitor at work, although one woman expressed an intense hatred for a famous political figure.

Professor Zeki and John Romaya of the Wellcome Laboratory of Neurobiology analysed the activity of the neural circuits in the brain that lit up when the volunteers were viewing photos of the hated person.

They found that the hate circuit includes parts of the brain called the putamen and the insula, found in the sub-cortex of the organ. The putamen is already known to be involved in the perception of contempt and disgust and may also be part of the motor system involved in movement and action.

"Significantly, the putamen and the insula are also both activated by romantic love. This is not surprising. The putamen could also be involved in the preparation of aggressive acts in a romantic context, as in situations when a rival presents a danger," Professor Zeki said.

"Previous studies have suggested that the insula may be involved in responses to distressing stimuli, and the viewing of both a loved and a hated face may constitute such a distressing signal."

One major difference between love and hate appears to be in the fact that large parts of the cerebral cortex – associated with judgement and reasoning – become de-activated during love, whereas only a small area is deactivated in hate.

"This may seem surprising since hate can also be an all-consuming passion like love. But whereas in romantic love, the lover is often less critical and judgemental regarding the loved person, it is more likely that in the context of hate the hater may want to exercise judgement in calculating moves to harm, injure or otherwise exact revenge," Professor Zeki said.

"Interestingly, the activity of some of these structures in response to a hated face is proportional in strength to the declared intensity of hate, thus allowing the subjective state of hate to be objectively quantified. This finding may have implications in criminal cases."


Source: The Independent:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/scientists-prove-it-really-is-a-thin-line-between-love-and-hate-976901.html

-DonEMitchell
http://groupKOS.com


#2943 From: DonEMitchell <mitch@...>
Date: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:22 am
Subject: Q: What do songbirds dream about? A: Singing
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Q: What do songbirds dream about? A: Singing

By Michael McCarthy, Environment Correspondent
Friday, 27 October 2000

Songbirds dream of singing, and may be rehearsing the songs they will sing the following day, new American research suggests.

Songbirds dream of singing, and may be rehearsing the songs they will sing the following day, new American research suggests.

Scientists at the University of Chicago have drawn the remarkable conclusion from studying the electrical brain activity of Australian zebra finches. They found that sleeping birds fire their neurons in complex patterns similar to those generated when they are awake and singing.

The [dreaming] activity patterns vary slightly - as if the birds are rehearsing a range of slightly different songs, sometimes with slower or faster tempos - and this, the researchers believe, is precisely what they are doing. [Bold mine.]

The study, reported in the journal Science, suggests sleep plays a central role in the learning process. Song acquisition by birds is often used as a model for how humans learn to talk.

"From our data we suspect the songbird dreams of singing," said Professor Daniel Margoliash, who led the study. "The zebra finch appears to store the neuronal firing pattern of song production during the day and reads it out at night, rehearsing the song and, perhaps, improvising variations. The match is remarkably good."

The Chicago team used sophisticated miniature recording devices to measure the activity of individual brain cells in four zebra finches. Firing patterns of separate cells in musical areas of the Australian songbird's brain were recorded.

When the recording was played back to a sleeping bird, the neurons in its brain fired in a pattern identical to that which accompanied singing, although the bird produced no sound. During undisturbed sleep, the neurons spontaneously fired the same complex song production patterns in bursts.

The scientists questioned how the bird learned to correct its song when by the time the tune was heard the neurons were now engaged in creating the next sound. They decided that practise during sleep may be part of the answer.


-DonEMitchell
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#2942 From: DonEMitchell <mitch@...>
Date: Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:53 pm
Subject: Oops and sorry
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KMTech,

I'm sorry to have sent a personal reply into KMTech.

One would think that after ten years of owning a forum that I'd be
better at this :)

Regards,

DonEMitchell
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#2940 From: DonEMitchell <mitch@...>
Date: Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:02 pm
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#2939 From: DonEMitchell <mitch@...>
Date: Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:42 pm
Subject: Zen of Microsoft Error Messages --Haiku poetry
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Haiku

In Japan, they have replaced the impersonal and unhelpful Microsoft error messages with Haiku poetry messages. Haiku poetry has strict construction rules. Each poem has only three lines, 17 syllables: five syllables in the first line, seven in the second, five in the third. Haikus are used to communicate a timeless message often achieving a wistful, yearning and powerful insight through extreme brevity-the essence of Zen:

            Your file was so big.
            It might be very useful.
            But now it is gone.
            ---------------------
            The Web site you seek
            cannot be located, but
            Countless more exist.
            ---------------------
            Chaos reigns within.
            Reflect, repent, and reboot.
            Order shall return.
            ---------------------
            Program aborting:
            Close all that you have worked on.
            You ask far too much.
            ---------------------
            Window's NT crashed.
            I am the Blue Screen of Death.
            No one hears your screams.
            ---------------------
            Yesterday it worked.
            Today it is not working.
            Windows is like that.
            ---------------------
            First snow, then silence.
            This thousand-dollar screen dies
            So beautifully.
            ---------------------
            With searching comes loss
            And the presence of absence:
            "My Novel" not found.
            ---------------------
            The Tao that is seen
            Is not the true Tao - until
            You bring fresh toner.
            ---------------------
            Stay the patient course.
            Of little worth is your ire.
            The network is down.
            ---------------------
            A crash reduces
            Your expensive computer
            To a simple stone.
            ---------------------
            Three things are certain! :
            Death, taxes and lost data.
            Guess which has occurred.
            ---------------------
            You step in the stream,
            But the water has moved on.
            This page is not here.
            ---------------------
            Out of memory.
            We wish to hold the whole sky,
            But we never will.
            ---------------------
            Having been erased,
            The document you're seeking
            Must now be retyped.
            ---------------------
            Serious error.
            All shortcuts have disappeared.
            Screen. Mind. Both are blank.



Taken from Rizal Almashoor's Blog...
http://www.rizalalmashoor.com/blog/release-engineering-haiku/

-DonEMitchell
http://groupKOS.com

#2938 From: "William E Smith" <wesmith@...>
Date: Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:11 pm
Subject: RE: How certain is certainty?
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Don :

 

My answer to this question is an organizing process (AIC) that honors at the same time certainty (control) uncertainty (appreciation) and the dance between them, the dance we perform every day and is the essence of presence (influence) is finally in published form.   It is serendipitously to be published on  Novemeber 4th the day when an appreciative-centered leader Obama will win the election .

 

Bill

 

William E. Smith PhD
Director ODII
202 364 7209
www.odii.com


From: DonEMitchell [mailto:mitch@...]
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 11:15 AM
To: KMTech@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [KMTech] How certain is certainty?

 

KMTech

Excerpts from: Scientific American online: http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=the-certainty-bias

October 9, 2008 in Mind & Brain

The Certainty Bias: A Potentially Dangerous Mental Flaw

A neurologist explains why you shouldn't believe in political candidates that sound too sure of themselves.

 

BURTON: There are two separate aspects of a thought, namely the actual thought, and an independent involuntary assessment of the accuracy of that thought.

[...]

LEHRER: To what extent do these mechanisms come into play during a presidential election? It seems like we all turn into such partisan hacks every four years, completely certain that our side is right.

BURTON: The present presidential debates and associated media commentary feel like laboratory confirmation that the involuntary feeling of certainty plays a greater role in decision-making than conscious contemplation and reason.

I suspect that retreat into absolute ideologies is accentuated during periods of confusion, lack of governmental direction, economic chaos and information overload. At bottom, we are pattern recognizers who seek escape from ambiguity and indecision. [Emboldment mine] If a major brain function is to maintain mental homeostasis, it is understandable how stances of certainty can counteract anxiety and apprehension.  Even though I know better, I find myself somewhat reassured (albeit temporarily) by absolute comments such as, "the stock market always recovers," even when I realize that this may be only wishful thinking.

Sadly, my cynical side also suspects that political advisors use this knowledge of the biology of certainty to actively manipulate public opinion. Nuance is abandoned in favor of absolutes.

[...]

In short, please run, do not walk, to the nearest exit when you hear so-called leaders being certain of any particular policy. Only in the absence of certainty can we have open-mindedness, mental flexibility and willingness to contemplate alternative ideas. [Emboldment mine]

Robert Burton is the former chief of neurology at the University of California at San Francisco-Mt. Zion hospital. He recently wrote a book, On Being Certain, that explored the neuroscience behind the feeling of certainty, or why we are so convinced we’re right even when we’re wrong. He and Jonah Lehrer, the editor of Mind Matters, discussed the science of certainty.

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#2937 From: DonEMitchell <mitch@...>
Date: Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:14 pm
Subject: How certain is certainty?
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KMTech

Excerpts from: Scientific American online: http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=the-certainty-bias

October 9, 2008 in Mind & Brain

The Certainty Bias: A Potentially Dangerous Mental Flaw

A neurologist explains why you shouldn't believe in political candidates that sound too sure of themselves.


BURTON: There are two separate aspects of a thought, namely the actual thought, and an independent involuntary assessment of the accuracy of that thought.

[...]

LEHRER: To what extent do these mechanisms come into play during a presidential election? It seems like we all turn into such partisan hacks every four years, completely certain that our side is right.

BURTON: The present presidential debates and associated media commentary feel like laboratory confirmation that the involuntary feeling of certainty plays a greater role in decision-making than conscious contemplation and reason.

I suspect that retreat into absolute ideologies is accentuated during periods of confusion, lack of governmental direction, economic chaos and information overload. At bottom, we are pattern recognizers who seek escape from ambiguity and indecision. [Emboldment mine] If a major brain function is to maintain mental homeostasis, it is understandable how stances of certainty can counteract anxiety and apprehension.  Even though I know better, I find myself somewhat reassured (albeit temporarily) by absolute comments such as, "the stock market always recovers," even when I realize that this may be only wishful thinking.

Sadly, my cynical side also suspects that political advisors use this knowledge of the biology of certainty to actively manipulate public opinion. Nuance is abandoned in favor of absolutes.

[...]

In short, please run, do not walk, to the nearest exit when you hear so-called leaders being certain of any particular policy. Only in the absence of certainty can we have open-mindedness, mental flexibility and willingness to contemplate alternative ideas. [Emboldment mine]

Robert Burton is the former chief of neurology at the University of California at San Francisco-Mt. Zion hospital. He recently wrote a book, On Being Certain, that explored the neuroscience behind the feeling of certainty, or why we are so convinced we’re right even when we’re wrong. He and Jonah Lehrer, the editor of Mind Matters, discussed the science of certainty.

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DonEMitchell

http://groupKOS.com


#2936 From: peter beamish <beamish@...>
Date: Wed Oct 8, 2008 8:50 am
Subject: 24 "MAJOR CONCEPTS" OF CETA'S "RHYTHM BASED COMMUNICATION (RBC) THEORY."
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24 "MAJOR CONCEPTS" OF CETA'S "RHYTHM BASED COMMUNICATION (RBC) THEORY."
- - - (Incorporating an independent and alternate genre of "TIME") - - -
- - - - - - - - (Plus, Objective vs. Subjective Reality) - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - (AND, Embracing A New Mind Concept.) - - - - - - - - -

- - - - - - - - - - - - - "Extended Abstract." - - - - - - - - - - - - -


4 page sides (2 pages), at 72 characters per line, and, right justified.
These original 24 are on: < http://www.egroups.com/message/time/14565 >.
2 page glossary is @ http://www.animalcontact.com/research/glossary.html
1 pg. side précises http://www.animalcontact.com/research/abstracts.html


Note: Concept numbers 1, 4, 14 & 15 are novel 21st century "BIOphysics."
Concept #18 seems important for 21st century "Philosophical Psychology."
Concept numbers 23, and 24 introduce a novel interpretation of "Nature."
"SBC and RBC" are "Signal and Rhythm Based Communications" respectively.


1. There exist <TWO TEMPORAL TYPES> designated: time (t) and "Time (T)."

As such appears to be an immense paradigm shift from historical physics,
we need the semantics of an upper case "T" for the novel "Rhythmic Time,
T," as well as closed words of: "onTime, lateTime, offTime & earlyTime."
Included also: "duraTion, communicaTion, synchronizaTion & informaTion."
Synonyms of "T" are: "Rhythm Based Time (RBT)," and "RhythmicTime (RT)."

2. Minds CAN ADD "Conventional time (t)" + "Rhythmic Time (T, or 'RT')."

Both "Conventional time (t)" and "Rhythmic Time (T, or 'RT')" are scalar
quantities, or scalar labels, which are transported by mass &/or energy,
and thus both do NOT flow, but are: "transported as mass/energy cargos."
Scalar quantities (as colours, shapes) can be added, but NOT multiplied.

3. Minds CANNOT MULTIPLY "Conventional time (t) x Rhythmic Time ('RT')!"

Travel time is "Conventional time (t)" while one's age is "Rhythmic Time
('RT')," measured in the "rhythm" of the Earth's rotation about the Sun.
Thus the "Twin's Paradox" is NOT a paradox, as both will remain as twins
regardless of the velocity with which one twin travels throughout space!

4. All REAL time (t), & all REAL "Time (T)" = "Now TIME" ("TIME = t+T").

We also need the semantics of an all upper case "TIME" for adding _REAL_
t & "T," as for example in a metaphor of moving in 12 hours from Toronto
to "Tampa Space," as one actually becomes located at ~"Hong Kong Space!"

"Now TIME Is An Important, REAL, Mental, Biophysical, Temporal Concept."

All other temporal concepts are real scalar labels, NOT real "Now TIME."
The concept of "future time" is NOT "REAL TIME" and needs new semantics.
A tomorrow NEVER comes, because when it does arrive, it becomes a today!

5. One's past & one's future consist of "Temporal Scalar Labels (tags)."

We thus need new semantics for "Conventional time t" scalar labels which
can be "timetags," and, for "Rhythmic Time T" scalar labels, "Timetags."
One's birthDATE is a past "timetag;" one's next birthDAY is a "Timetag."
(Such semantics is derived from pricetags which are also scalar labels.)

6. All conscious minds operate using: "Now TIME Temporal Scalar Labels."

J. McTaggart "We perceive events in time as being present, and those are
the only events which we perceive directly." Present is mind "Now TIME."
Scalar labels enter conscious minds as: "cargos on mass/energy vectors."
"A New Definition of Mind:" <http://www.egroups.com/message/time/13743>.

7. All conscious minds operate using: "Mental Vector Processes, (MVPs)."

"MVPs" are THE most important concept of "RBC Theory," & presumably then
THE "Most Valuable Players" in the "Game Of Life." They consist of "mass
&/or energy vectors" transporting scalar labels (as colour, time, "Time"
& geometry, etc.) from mind's edges to "Mental Thought Processes, MTPs."

8. "MVPs = combinations of mass/energy vectors, & scalar labels (tags)."

Here, and in all of "RBC Theory," "mass/energy" means mass, &/or energy.
Imagine a "photon cluster" reflecting off a clock on the wall! Temporal,
colour, & shape scalar labels can be transported as "cargos" from such a
clock to an "MTP," and then ANALYZED backwards in "time t" to the clock.
For this short duration of time, the clock is at the edge of one's mind.

9. "MVPs" form at "Mind's Edges," and end at "Mental Thought Processes."

Many such "MVPs" can impinge upon "Mental Thoughts," in short durations,
as auditory and visual pathways for "MVPs" can operate "simultaneously."
If "Potential MVPs" do not enter into "Mental Thought" they are "noise."
"Mind" is a "Dynamic Volume" with no inherent mass & no inherent energy.
"A New Definition of Mind:" <http://www.egroups.com/message/time/13743>.

10. "Mind's Outer Edge borders Objective Reality, & Subjective Reality."

Some "Objective Reality" can be in one's real future (_NOT_ future time)
whereas one's "Subjective Reality" consists of "MVP/MTPs" in "Now TIME."
"ALL REAL TIME IS NOW TIME" ("RBC Concept" #57 in book ISBN 0968995527).
Otherwise, temporal concepts are scalar labels outside of a living mind.

11. Mind's "Inner Edge" borders one's "Subjective Reality," with memory.

Memory contains one's education, knowledge, understanding, and much, but
not all, may lie in one's "Central Nervous System, CNS." Understanding &
knowledge can also be derived from known forms of communication. Such is
mainly "Signal Based, SBC" for humans, and partially "Rhythm Based, RBC"
for those aspects of Nature that are in a "relatively LOW STRESS state."

12. All conscious minds can be dynamic, BOTH in volume & in orientation.

Glance at a photograph of the moon, at a range of 1 metre. Now glance at
the real moon at ~390,000 kilometres, say within 1 second. Your mind has
expanded faster than the velocity of light which is entirely permissible
as "mind" is here defined as simply a volume, with no mass, & no energy.

- - - - (End of page side 2 of 4 page sides or 2 printed pages.) - - - -

- - - - - - - - - - - - A New Definition of Mind - - - - - - - - - - - -

One's "Event Space Sphere Or Spheroid," or acronym "Essos" is Subjective
Reality and is formed by the creation of both external & internal "MVPs"
which by convention, always enter an "Essos" from a south pole position.
Hence, the concept "Essos" (pronounced "Eee sauce") is extremely dynamic
in both orientation and mean radius. Furthermore it is a "volume" with a
"non Essos volume" within, containing memory, knowledge & understanding.
Mind is thus definable as one's "Essos," & such mind collapses in volume
during "day dreaming," meditation and sleep. All of life has an "Essos."

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

13. All "TIME" is "A Mental Thought Process (MTP) Reading _OF_ A Clock."

"TIME" is NOT a reading ON (AT or IN) a clock. Such is a scalar label of
either time t or "Time T," which does NOT become "Real TIME" until it is
received by a "Mental Thought Process." However, "biological clocks" can
exist inside of a mind and their "MVPs" can produce temporal sensations.

14. Without an object's "Mental Thought Process" "_TIME DOESN'T EXIST_!"

"NO MIND, THUS NO TIME" ("RBC Concept" #133 in book ISBN 0968995527), so
that objects without mind can have temporal scalar labels but NO "TIME."
Space appears to exist everywhere; "Real TIME" exists, only with a mind.
It thus seems now correct to say "time-in-space" instead of "spacetime!"

This is a major diversion from 20th century physics, into a 21st century
"BIOphysics!" "Confirming logic" includes: A) "All temporal concepts are
SCALAR labels 'transported' by mass/energy VECTORS," whereas, "all space
is comprised of VECTORS which include the three & only three, Orthogonal
Spacial Dimensions ("OSDs"), such as east, north and up, or x, y and z,"
and B) "All REAL TIME is a _MENTAL_, 'Now TIME' perception of either 't'
(conventional time) as a scalar label, or 'T' ('Rhythm Based Time') also
as a scalar label." Thereby, "NO MIND, THUS NO TIME, or no REAL t or T."
However there can certainly be "space without mind, space without life!"
Thus "spacetime" becomes a non sequitur which should be "time-in-space."

15. "MTPs" can "ANALYZE, NOT GO," backwards, in "Conventional MVP time."

One cannot _GO_ backwards in "Conventional MVP time t" as then one could
prevent one's parents from meeting & thus not be born! On the other hand
"Rhythmic Time T" can go clockwise, e.g. Earth (a clock) from south pole
say forwards; or, counterclockwise, Earth from north pole say backwards.

16. "Conventional time (t)" is "A Curvi-linear Displacement"/A Velocity.

This is the definition of time used in 20th century physics and sciences
and it is easily understood at early ages as the faster you go somewhere
the sooner you get to your destination! The easiest mathematics, & using
alliteration, is <time = space/speed>. Such a time is a SCALAR quantity.

17. "Rhythmic Time (T) = Perception Of Lateness RELATIVE To OnTimeness."

Such, is a new definition of a second "temporal form," which necessarily
involves a "mental perception" and thus a "Mental Thought Process, MTP."
This "Time T" is RELATIVE to a "Mental Cycling Time," as for a rhythm of
60 sec "offTime" is 30 sec but for a rhythm of 24 hr "offTime" is 12 hr.

18. "Rhythmic Time (T)" is "A Foundation Of Living Organism's Emotions."

Identical twins (and others) have synchronized biological rhythms and so
when one may contact another, a sender's identity is often known, as the
contact is made at a mutually agreeable "onTime, cyclic window of Time."
Music and dancing may produce such "windows" allowing emotional contact.

19. "Rhythm Based Communication, RBC" is encoded in "Rhythmic Time (T)."

"RBC" appears to be "an advance" on "the human understanding of Nature."
It has been found in the low stress communications of "The Great Whales"
and other living organisms. "RBC" _requires and produces_ low biological
stress as: A) it requires "Rhythmic SynchronizaTion," and B) it produces
a communication less dependent on WHAT signals & more dependent on WHEN.
This WHEN, is the definitive, 20th century discovery of "RELATIVE TIME!"

20. "Conventional time t" involves a concept of: "Synchronization in t."

Synchronization is "happening at the same time." It is a "foundation" of
planned meetings, created schedules and produced finished products. Non-
human Nature seems little able to plan, create or produce in the future,
and maximizes its "Now TIME," leading to lower future anxiety, & stress.

21. "Rhythmic Time (T)" has the different concept of: "SynchronizaTion."

"SynchronizaTion" is a prerequisite of "Rhythm Based Communication, RBC"
and, it can be a necessary step for all of Nature to lower "SBC stress."
"RBC" seems highly encrypted, but there can be both universal concepts +
a rhythmic warning of evolutionary stress with lack of rhythmic empathy.

22. "Conventional time t" encodes the well known concept of information.

Information is in signals, signs & symbols, encoded in mass &/or energy.
It is the actualization & essence of: "Signal Based Communication, SBC."
Humans evolved the ability to plan, create, & produce which required the
use of "SBC," whereas non-humans evolved to "maximize" their "Now TIME."

23. "RT" DIFFERS in this concept which we suggest calling "informaTion."

"InformaTion" is in "Rhythmic Time (T)" INDEPENDENT of mass &/or energy.
It is the actualization & essence of: "Rhythm Based Communication, RBC."
It appears as the foundation of Carl Jung's "collective unconscious," as
well as attributes of some, human, emotional communications and empathy.

24. Mass, energy, information and "informaTion" = "All Known Phenomena."

There exists nothing in our biosphere & "world," that consists of things
other than these above phenomena! All knowledge to date, has mainly been
comprised of mass, energy and information, but "The Great Whales" et al.
have indicated that "Rhythm Based InformaTion" is a part of our reality.

Sincerely, 'peter' c. beamish, ph.d., director, "CETA-Research," Canada.

"CETA" is: "CommunicaTions Et (And) 'TEMPS (TIME = t + T)' AssociaTion."

2 page glossary is @ http://www.animalcontact.com/research/glossary.html
1 pg. side précises http://www.animalcontact.com/research/abstracts.html

- The seemingly important "MVP Concept" DEFINES: "A New Mind Concept." -

"A duration (of time)" is this day #(365250+/-1461)+365250+2838=~#733338
in this 3rd Millennium. "A duraTion (of Time)" is: day #282 of this "Sun
Cycle," or this 07:00:00 hours, minutes, secs, of "NLTime" (not "time").

#2935 From: DonEMitchell <mitch@...>
Date: Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:54 am
Subject: Cottonwood Alternative Energy Meetup Group announcement
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Hello KMTech,


Please excuse my unabashed plug for a local event in Cottonwood, AZ, south of Flagstaff, north of Phoenix...

http://alternativeenergy.meetup.com/251/

"Meet other local individuals interested in exploring all forms of practical alternative energies.

Discuss ways to preserve the world's resources and protect the environment beginning in our local community!

Our initial meeting will be a think-tank toward:

-Forming a charter encouraging growth and best utilization of membership resources.

-Solicit academic, corporate, and political participation.

-Seek grant funds.

-Research new technologies.

-Organize proof-of-concept projects.

-Plan project workshops.

-Further mission goals as realized.


This group welcomes those embracing the urge to respect our planet and to actively promote community programs that seek to provide practical solutions to residential energy needs, as well as promote the adoption of variant lifestyles that enrich the local and regional biocosm.

This group is not for those anticipating pseudo-science free-energy projects, but rather, fringe or suppressed sciences. CAE is not for those wishing to promote big business solutions, but will attempt to engender support of those corporations supportive of a family/community-centric solutions which are perhaps outside of the corporate economic momentum."



I would be most happy to hear from anyone in KMTech with experience regarding knowledge-change process, especially involving a shift of lifestyle incentives...  from  power-grid  dependence to  household energy dependence -and that with a respect of the biocosm (low to no carbon footprint). 

Please forward this message as you like.


Regards,

DonEMitchell



#2934 From: "John Van Winkle" <jack_vanwinkle@...>
Date: Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:09 am
Subject: Heart/Brain...Where is Science Going?
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The Institute of HeartMath Research Center is a recognized global leader in emotional physiology and stress-management research. HeartMath is engaged in basic psychophysiology, neurocardiology and biophysics research, as well as clinical, workplace and organizational intervention and treatment outcome studies in collaboration with numerous universities, research centers and healthcare-system partners. This research has significantly advanced the understanding of heart-brain interactions, heart-rhythm-pattern and heart-rate-variability analyses, emotional physiology and the physiology of optimal learning and performance.

HeartMath's research forms the foundation for the development of practical, scientifically validated emotional refocusing and repatterning technologies that enable people to significantly improve their health and vitality, performance and quality of life.

Expanding areas of interest include furthering scientific understanding of the human biofield, global coherence, intuition and the emotional energetic system. There are numerous studies in progress, a sampling of which is available in the Featured Research section. The Research Center's latest project is the development of the Global Coherence Monitoring System (GCMS), a major undertaking that is an important part of IHM's Global Coherence Project.

The Research Center has teamed with internationally renowned astrophysicist and nuclear scientist Elizabeth Rauscher to design and build the GCMS to measure and explore fluctuations in the magnetic fields generated by the earth and ionosphere. Previous research has shown that specific measures of the earth's field can signal pending earthquakes, volcanic eruptions and other major planetary events long before they occur. Among the project's goals are determining how the earth's field influences human activity and conversely if collective human emotionality modulates the earth's fields

The IHM Research Center is committed to increasing the world's body of scientific knowledge and promoting heart--based living and global coherence – the mental, physical, emotional and spiritual well-being of the greater community of human beings.


"Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known."

—Dr. Carl Sagan, Astronomer, Writer, Scientist, 1934-1996


The following is a small sampling of the continuing impact of HeartMath research and development:


  • Students in more than 1,000 schools around the world have benefited from IHM research by using HeartMath learning programs to increase their confidence at school, raise test scores and overall academic performance and even improve their relationships and social lives among peers, friends and family. With HeartMath's help a great many educators are again finding their profession rewarding as they watch students show more interest in school and improved academic performance and behavior.
  • Some of the world's most well-known corporations – Hewlett-Packard, Cisco Systems, BP and Unilever among them – have enlisted the aid of HeartMath to help them achieve increased organizational coherence and workforce satisfaction.
  • U.S. governmental entities such as NASA, the four branches of the military and the Veterans Administration have used or continue to rely on HeartMath programs to reduce anxiety and stress levels and boost energy among their employees.
  • Personnel with many large and small medical and healthcare operations – Kaiser Permanente, Veterans Administration, Duke, the University of North Carolina and others have expressed high praise for the impact of HeartMath programs, tools, techniques and technology to support and bring about measurable improvement in patients, but also to lower the stress levels and improve the overall health of their staffs, raise employee satisfaction levels and even reduce employee turnover.

See the Science of the Heart section for brief summaries of basic, clinical and organizational educational research studies.


Areas of HeartMath Research/Studies

Emotional Physiology:

A key area of focus at the HeartMath Research Center is exploring our emotions and how they affect our physiology, with an emphasis on the physiological effects of positive emotions, especially intentionally experienced positive emotions. Studies already have revealed there are pronounced beneficial changes in the patterns of activity in the autonomic nervous, immune and hormonal systems and the brain and heart when we experience emotions such as appreciation, love, care and compassion. There are indications these physiological changes may help explain the connection between positive emotions, improved health and increased longevity. IHM researchers have shown that the heart plays an important role in the generation and perception of emotion. For related Research Publications, go to Basic Research.


Heart–Brain Interactions:

The heart and brain maintain a continuous two-way dialogue, each influencing the other's functioning. Although it is not well known, the heart sends far more information to brain than the brain sends to the heart and the signals the heart sends to the brain can influence perception, emotional processing and higher cognitive functions. This system and circuitry is viewed by neurocardiology researchers as a "heart brain." The heart also generates the strongest rhythmic electromagnetic field in the body and this actually can be measured in the brain waves of people around us. For related Research Publications, go to Basic Research.


Development and Testing of Positive Emotion-Focused Tools, Techniques, Technology and Programs:

Our research into emotional physiology, heart-brain interactions and much more has guided the development of practical, heart-based tools, techniques and technologies that enable people to sustain positive emotions and physiological coherence with greater consistency. They have been tested for effectiveness in laboratory studies as well as intervention studies conducted in educational, organizational and clinical settings. For related Research Publications, go to Basic Research.


Educational Intervention Studies:

HeartMath's educational intervention studies examine the effects of HeartMath programs in educational settings. HeartMath tools, techniques, technology and learning programs levels have reduced general psychological distress, test anxiety and risky behaviors and improved test scores, classroom behavior, stress resiliency, learning and overall academic performance at the elementary, middle school, high school and college levels. Studies have been conducted and are under way to further investigate the impact of HeartMath programs in those settings and for special-needs children, including those with attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). For related Research Publications, go to Educational Research.


Workplace Intervention Studies:

Intervention studies investigating the impact of HeartMath programs in the workplace have documented a wide range of organizationally relevant outcomes, including increases in productivity, goal clarity, job satisfaction, communication effectiveness, improvement in employee health and reductions in turnover. Studies also have examined the programs' effect in helping organizations meet the demands of challenges such as downsizing and restructuring. For related Research Publications, go to Organizational Research.


Treatment Outcome studies in Clinical Populations:

Treatment outcome studies assess how HeartMath's positive emotion-focused tools and techniques help people with various health problems and they have demonstrated significant improvements in health, psychological well-being and quality of life in people with hypertension, diabetes, congestive heart failure, AIDS and more. Substantial improvements also have been noted in case history data from patients and healthcare professionals who've utilized HeartMath interventions for chronic conditions such as cardiac arrhythmia, chronic fatigue, anxiety, depression, panic disorder, post-traumatic stress disorder, environmental sensitivity, chronic pain and fibromyalgia. For related Research Publications, go to Clinical and Health Research.


Heart-Rate Variability and Autonomic Function:

IHM conducts ongoing research into heart-rate variability (HRV), a measure of the naturally occurring beat-to-beat changes in heart rate. HRV analysis is a powerful, noninvasive measure of autonomic nervous-system function and an indicator of neurocardiac fitness. The HeartMath Research Center maintains an extensive HRV normals database, which provides data on the HRV of healthy individuals. HeartMath has published research demonstrating how HRV varies with age and gender and on the use of HRV analyses to assess alterations in autonomic function in conditions such as panic disorder and chronic fatigue. IHM provides HRV analysis services for studies conducted by other institutions. For related Research Publications, go to Clinical and Health Research.


Emotional Energetics Research:

The heart produces by far the body's most powerful rhythmic electromagnetic field, which can be detected several feet away by sensitive instruments. In addition to the physical, neurological and hormonal production aspects of the heart, our research also has led us to consider the heart as an energetic system. For example, we have found that the heart's field is a carrier of emotional information and a mediator of bioelectromagnetic communication, within and outside the body.

Research shows our heart's field changes distinctly as we experience different emotions. It is registered in people's brains around us and apparently is capable of affecting cells, water and DNA studied in vitro.

The implications are: People may be able to affect their environment in ways not previously understood and such "energetic" interactions may be prominently influenced by our emotions. Growing evidence also suggests energetic interactions involving the heart may underlie intuition and important aspects of human consciousness. For related Research Publications, go to Energetics Research.


Intuition Research:

There is evidence that people around the world have believed in the existence and power of intuition dating back through antiquity and one can imagine that the earliest humans depended on it greatly for survival. Intuition has been pondered by great thinkers, scientists and philosophers – Aristotle, Kant, Einstein among them – relied upon by leaders of nations and, as a great number of the world's people today will attest, is applied daily in a multitude of life's decisions.

The Institute of HeartMath's expanding interest in intuition has evolved naturally because of what is now believed to be an intimate relationship between the heart and the intuitive process – the perception or knowing things without conscious reasoning such as an event or act of nature that has yet to happen. As IHM researchers have conducted investigations over the years into stress and emotional management, heart intelligence, the heart-brain connection, heart-rhythm patterns and other areas, they have learned much about this process.

IHM researchers and others who explored intuition for more than a half century have expanded its definition to include not only conscious perception by the mind alone, but also by the body's entire psychophysiological system. This perception often is evidenced by a range of emotions and measurable physiological changes exhibited or detected in the heart and throughout the body, according to the two-part HeartMath study on the Electrophysiological Evidence of Intuition listed below. The conclusions drawn from this study include the following: "Overall, our data suggest that the heart and brain, together, are involved in receiving, processing, and decoding intuitive information. … (and) there is compelling evidence that the heart appears to receive intuitive information before the brain."


"The only real valuable thing is intuition."

—Albert Einstein, 1879-1955


Though modern scientific investigation of intuition dates back to the early part of the 20th century, research has steadily increased in recent decades. HeartMath, already internationally recognized for groundbreaking research related to stress, emotions and the heart, is committed to furthering scientific knowledge and understanding about the intuitive process. HeartMath tools, techniques and technology have been developed to enhance intuitive ability by helping you achieve heart coherence, a state in which the heart and brain and other bodily systems are in sync. In addition to the study mentioned above, HeartMath has been involved in a number of other intuition-related studies and papers, including the following:


  • Electrophysiological Evidence of Intuition: Part 1.
    The Surprising Role of the Heart

    R. McCraty, M. Atkinson, R. T. Bradley, Institute for Whole Social Science, Institute of HeartMath, e-Motion Institute

    This study aims to contribute to a scientific understanding of intuition, a process by which information normally outside the range of conscious awareness is perceived by the psychophysiological systems. The first objective, presented in two empirical papers (Part 1 and Part 2), was to replicate and extend the results of previous experiments demonstrating that the body can respond to an emotionally arousing stimulus seconds before it is actually experienced.

    Electrophysiological Evidence of Intuition: Part 1  Click here for a PDF version of the paper.

  • Electrophysiological Evidence of Intuition: Part 2.
    A System-Wide Process?

    R. McCraty, M. Atkinson, R. T. Bradley, Institute for Whole Social Science, Institute of HeartMath, e-Motion Institute

    As with the first part of this study, researchers wanted to add to the scientific understanding of intuition. The objective in this part of the study was to develop a theory explaining how the body receives and processes information involved in intuitive perception.

    Electrophysiological Evidence of Intuition: Part 2  Click here for a PDF version of the paper.

  • The Psychophysiology of Entrepreneurial Intuition:
    A Quantum-Holographic Theory

    R. T. Bradley, Institute for Whole Social Science, Institute of HeartMath, e-Motion Institute. Paper presented at the Third AGSE International Entrepreneurship Research Exchange, Feb. 8-10, 2006, Auckland, New Zealand

    Successful entrepreneurs are passionate innovative risk-takers whose actions are informed by accurate intuitions about future business opportunities. Drawing on recent research that intuitive perception of a future event is related to the degree of emotional significance of that event, a study showing both the brain and heart are involved in processing a pre-stiumulus emotional response to the future event, and on the principles of quantum holography, a theory of intuitive perception.

    The Psychophysiology of Entrepreneurial Intuition  Click here for a PDF version of the paper.


For related Research Publications, go to Intuition Research.


Global Coherence Research:

There is a growing sense around the world that we live in times of great change and upheaval, relative not only to the physical integrity of our planet and atmosphere – because our stewardship of the space we inhabit has reached a point of "incoherence" – but also to human beings, who increasingly are rejecting an existence whose credo is "get ahead at any cost" – the price of which is a uniquely modern malaise of pandemic stress and fear, global strife and planetary decay, and personal and collective sadness.

Our interaction with the planet, its systems and creatures, between and among nations, societies and individuals, and even within ourselves, is out of sync so frequently today, it is difficult for many people to even achieve personal coherence – that state in which the heart, mind, emotions and other systems of the body function in a kind of a concert of synchronization with one another, affording clarity of thought and action, calmness, relationships built and nurtured on motives of care purity, and greater health, well-being and purpose.

The Institute of HeartMath and its research team, already in the forefront of stress- and emotional-management research, are on a quest to foster global coherence by going beyond what we already know about heart-brain interaction, heart intelligence and heart coherence. We want to be a leader in service to humankind as the paradigm shift of our time unfolds and people in every nation begin reconnecting with their hearts, turning away from stressful and self-centered living and turning toward heart-based living and global coherence.

Our research has shown stress not only causes personal incoherence, but also affects those around us, as you may have experienced when a sad, angry or fearful person walked into a room of people and his or her emotions seemed to radiate out to those present, unwittingly creating an atmosphere of incoherence. Some may describe this as coincidence or a phenomenon, but increasing scientific evidence suggests it is a very real and normal function of our psychophysiological makeup is mediated by the energetic activity and information that is constantly exchanged between and among people and their environment, especially in close proximity, but also the larger energetic environment of the planet.

We at HeartMath believe this energetic interconnectedness, which exists not only among people, but animals and plant systems as well, may well represent a path toward global coherence. As individuals practice the principles of heart-centered, heart-based living by whatever means and methods they choose, they in turn will energetically affect those nearest them, and ultimately the collective body of heart-focused people will be able to affect the world community on a grand scale.

The stress-reduction and coherence-building tools developed by IHM through the application of scientific testing and validation are designed to help the individual achieve personal coherence, but as more individuals learn to shift to their hearts and sustain coherence, we believe this will have a positive, cascading effect on not only our indeterminate circle of relationships but the global energetic environment as well.

For these and other reasons IHM researchers have teamed with internationally renowned astrophysicist and nuclear scientist Elizabeth Rauscher to design, build and implement the Global Coherence Monitoring System (GCMS), to measure and explore fluctuations in the magnetic fields generated by the earth and ionosphere.

Among the project's goals are determining if the earth's field influences human brain and heart activity and whether collective human emotions modulate the earth's magnetic fields. Previous research has shown changes in the earth's magnetic field precede and therefore can be used to predict earthquakes, volcanic eruptions and other planetary events.

HeartMath and Rauscher will design, build and maintain the GCMS to track the earth's field, which HeartMath postulates should be much more sensitive to the effects of emotion-based collective human interactions than other types of detectors.

For much of human history the existence of interconnectedness among all things has been a matter of speculation or belief based on faith. Now the Institute of HeartMath envisions the GCMS, like the longstanding and independent Global Consciousness Project, along with other IHM research, will further scientific evidence of the following: We are much more interconnected with each other and our larger planetary environment at the energetic level; what we do as individuals counts; and as we learn to take energetic self-responsibility, a force is generated that makes the world a more coherent and better place. Go to The Global Coherence Project.

To learn more about the Institute of HeartMath's commitment to global coherence and the Global Coherence Monitoring System, click on the following links to HeartMath newsletter articles.



#2933 From: peter beamish <beamish@...>
Date: Tue Sep 2, 2008 8:50 am
Subject: Superluminal "Rhythm Based Communication (RBC)" Expanded.
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As presented to [time] et al. on July 10th, 2008 at 07:00:00 - 0230 hrs:

- - - - - - Superluminal "Rhythm Based Communication (RBC)." - - - - - -

Two side by side organisms, A and B, obtain a "Rhythmic Synchronization"
(also, now named "SynchronizaTion," using "Rhythm Based Time RBT or T").
"RBT" is "The Perception of a 'LateTime' RELATIVE to a SynchronizaTion."

Organism B moves a distance away, and thence transmits "OnTime" signals.
Such signals arrive at the "Mental Thought Process MTP" of organism A at
an "RBC LateTime" (where: "OnTime," "LateTime" etc. is "RBC symbolism").

SVP see glossary @ <http://www.animalcontact.com/research/glossary.html>

Organism A rotates an "MTP/RBC Clock," for such a "LateTime" of organism
B, so that it becomes synchronized in "RBT" with A's own "OnTime" clock.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Thus - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Information encoded in "Rhythm Based Time RBT or T" can be superluminal.

For a complete understanding one must realize that whereas "Conventional
time Ct or t" counts 0, pi/2, pi, 3pi/2, 2pi radians, (& thence 4pi, 6pi
etc.), "Rhythm Based Time" counts 0, pi/2, pi (= -pi), -pi/2, 0 radians.

"Chimo," Inuktitut meaning <"To Your Great Health and Great Happiness">.
"A duration (of time)" is this day #(365250+/-1461)+365250+2748=~#733248
in this 3rd Millennium. "A duraTion (of Time)" is: day #192 of this "Sun
Cycle," or this 07:00:00 hrs, min, sec of "NLTime" (not "time"), 'peter'
(Suggest copy Précises/letters to email at 72 char/line for 1 pg. side.)
Sincerely, 'peter' c. beamish, ph.d., director, "CETA-Research," Canada.
("CETA" Glossary, & Précises (Letters) should print to even page sides.)
"CETA" is: "CommunicaTions Et (And) 'TEMPS (TIME = t + T)' AssociaTion."
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - VERY NEW - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
2 Page Glossary is @ http://www.animalcontact.com/research/glossary.html
Comments/questions on these "Foundations of RBC/RBT Theory" are welcome.
The seemingly important "MVP Concept" DEFINES: "A New Mind Concept." ***
- - - - - - - - - - - - - NEW ("end line") *** - - - - - - - - - - - - -
1 Pg. Side Précises http://www.animalcontact.com/research/abstracts.html

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Expansion. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

"Conventional time t of information B to A" ** is displacement/velocity.
For "side by side organisms" displacement is small thus time t is small.
When B "moves away," time t of ** is "proportional to the displacement."

"Rhythm Based Time T of 'RBC informaTion' of B to A," is VERY different.
For "side by side organisms," A & B can have an "RBC 'synchronizaTion'."
For this case "Time T" is also small, because displacement is small, BUT
when displacement increases, "Time T" remains small by "clock rotation."
"Time T" is a "duraTion" between the "synchronizaTion Time of A" and the
"LateTime," received by organism A from the "synchronizaTion Time" of B.
Now let the "velociTy" be defined as that of "Rhythm Based InformaTion."
Thus such a "velociTy" becomes superluminal as "Time T" approaches zero.

Sincerely, 'peter' c. beamish, ph.d., director, "CETA-Research," Canada.

#2932 From: DonEMitchell <mitch@...>
Date: Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:34 pm
Subject: Intent Flavored Randomness
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Intent Flavored Randomness

"Discoveries made at the Princeton Engineering Anomalies laboratory have shown that human intention and group dynamics can influence the behavior of quantum electronic devices known as random event generators."

The Global Consciousness Project by Princeton University is over, but the research team continues in a commercialized research and development fashion, found online at http://psyleron.com.

Excerpt from Psyleron.com, about a random-event driven toy robot:
"A randomly-driven robot was set up in a confined area, and it's movement was tracked and found to be consistent with expectations of random motion.  Then the robot was introduced to motherless baby chicks, and "socialized" in a way known to cause psychological attachment.  The robot was put back in the confined space and left to move around freely, yet this time, the baby chicks were situated in a cage next to the robot.  After tracking the movement of the robot, they found that it clustered around wherever the chicks were, even to a statistically significant extent.  The suggestion was that the baby chicks had influenced the random motion of the robot attempting to bring it near, just as the human operators had influenced the PEAR robot." (From: http://www.psyleron.com/robot.aspx, Aug. 2008)
The implications of the sensorization of plausibility are profound, especially when realized empirically that mind, and more so a group-mind, will effect the plausibility that randomness occurs "purely", instead, creating a mind-created bias on statistical outcome of real events.

The actual events being sensorized by a Psyleron REG random number generator are the pulses within the electronic noise floor inherent in a resistive electrical element.

So therefore, the REG devices demonstrate an ability of one or more minds to affect the behavior of electrons flowing in a resistive circuit, at a subtle level, at a level where thermal energy of molecular crystal vibration interacts with conducting electrons.


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#2931 From: peter beamish <beamish@...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:50 am
Subject: "THE NATURE OF TIME" by Humberto R. Maturana
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Maria Odete Madeira sent:  "THE NATURE OF TIME"  by Humberto R. Maturana
- - - - [Comments of "CETA" are in [square brackets] as such.] - - - - -

- - - - - - - - - - - - - "THE NATURE OF TIME" - - - - - - - - - - - - -

"-that which we connote with the word time cannot be a thing in itself."
[All concepts related to "the word time" are temporal scalar labels such
as one's birthdate, AND, such "labels" are indeed things in themselves!]

"In our culture the notion of time is used as an explanatory notion -"
[All life uses "past scalar labels." _H. sapiens_ uses "future labels."]

"- the word time cannot refer to an entity that exists independently -"
[However, a "scalar label of time ('timetag')" CAN exist independently!]

"-that which from the perspective of an observer is an operation in time
- appears as an operation in the present." [All REAL time is: now time.]

"- time arises in the experience of the observer with directionality and
irreversibility. [True for "Conventional time t" NOT "Rhythmic Time T."]

"So, reversible time is an abstraction of a particular irreversible and
directional experience." [Au contraire! They DIFFER as above t vs. "T."]

"Once time arises as a distinction in the domain of the experiences of
the observer it becomes an operational entity -" [Once a scalar label of
time (a "timetag") arrives in a "Mental Thought Process, MTP" it becomes
"a timetag of REAL now time" (neither "one's past" nor "one's future").]

"-any one of us as a languaging being" [Concepts of time are universal!]

"I consider that what I have said is valid in physics." [NO BIOPHYSICS!]

" -we frequently forget that unidirectional time and reversible time are
indeed abstractions -" - [No! They "produce" REAL temporal _durations_.]

" -we treat unidirectional time [A] and reversible time [B] as if they
were entities that exist independently from what we do -" ["Conventional
timetags" A, and "Rhythmic Timetags" B ARE INDEPENDENT OF "WHAT WE DO!"]

" -processes in the many dimensions- " - [There are three and ONLY three
"Orthogonal Spacial Dimensions, OSDs," as east, north & up, or x,y & z.]

"I have shown that the foundations of the notion of time in any domain
rests on the biology of the observer-" - - [GOOD! But use "BIOphysics."]

Sincerely, 'peter' c. beamish, ph.d., director, "CETA-Research," Canada.
"CETA" is: "CommunicaTions Et (And) 'TEMPS (TIME = t + T)' AssociaTion."
2 Page Glossary is @ http://www.animalcontact.com/research/glossary.html
- The seemingly important "MVP Concept" DEFINES: "A New Mind Concept." -
1 Pg. Side Précises http://www.animalcontact.com/research/abstracts.html
"A duration (of time)" is this day #(365250+/-1461)+365250+2781=~#733281
in this 3rd Millennium. "A duraTion (of Time)" is: day #225 of this "Sun
Cycle," or this 07:00:00 hours, minutes, secs, of "NLTime" (not "time").

#2930 From: peter beamish <beamish@...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2008 8:50 am
Subject: "MAJOR CONCEPTS" OF "RBC THEORY."
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- - "MAJOR CONCEPTS" OF "RHYTHM BASED COMMUNICATION ('RBC') THEORY." - -

There exist < TWO TEMPORAL TYPES > designated: time (t), and "Time (T)."

Minds CAN ADD "Conventional time (t)" plus "Rhythmic Time (T, or 'RT')."

Minds CANNOT MULTIPLY "Conventional time (t)" by "Rhythmic Time ('RT')!"

All REAL time (t) and all REAL "Time (T)" = "Now TIME" ("TIME" = t+"T").

One's past, and one's future consist of "Temporal Scalar Labels (tags)."

All Conscious Minds operate by using: "Now TIME Temporal Scalar Labels."

All Conscious Minds operate by using: "Mental Vector Processes, (MVPs)."

"MVPs" are combinations of "Mass/Energy Vectors" & Scalar Labels (tags).

"MVPs" are formed at "Mind's Edges" & end at "Mental Thought Processes."

Mind's Outer Edge borders "Objective Reality" with "Subjective Reality."

Mind's Inner Edge borders one's "Subjective Reality," with one's Memory.

"All Conscious Minds Can Be Dynamic" BOTH in Volume, and in Orientation.

All "TIME" involves "A Mental Thought Process (MTP) Reading OF A Clock."

Without an object's "Mental Thought Process (MTP)" "TIME DOESN'T EXIST!"

"MTPs" can "ANALYZE, BUT NOT GO," backwards, in "Conventional MVP time."

Conventional time (t) = "Curvi-linear Displacement Divided by Velocity."

Rhythmic Time (RT) = "Perception Of Lateness RELATIVE To An OnTimeness."

Rhythmic Time (RT) is "A Foundation Of All, Living Organism's Emotions."

"Rhythm Based Communication ('RBC')" is encoded in "Rhythmic Time (RT)."

"Conventional time t" has "Synchronization;" "RT" has "SynchronizaTion."

"Conventional time t" has "Information;" "RT" DIFFERS, as "InformaTion."

Mass, Energy, Information, & "InformaTion" comprise All Known Phenomena.

Sincerely, 'peter' c. beamish, ph.d., director, "CETA-Research," Canada.
"CETA" is: "CommunicaTions Et (And) 'TEMPS (TIME = t + T)' AssociaTion."
2 Page Glossary is @ http://www.animalcontact.com/research/glossary.html
- The seemingly important "MVP Concept" DEFINES: "A New Mind Concept." -
1 Pg. Side Précises http://www.animalcontact.com/research/abstracts.html
"A duration (of time)" is this day #(365250+/-1461)+365250+2776=~#733276
in this 3rd Millennium. "A duraTion (of Time)" is: day #220 of this "Sun
Cycle," or this 07:00:00 hours, minutes, secs, of "NLTime" (not "time").

#2929 From: "John Van Winkle" <jack_vanwinkle@...>
Date: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:32 pm
Subject: Whales’ Lower-Pitch Sound Has Experts Guessing
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Whales' Lower-Pitch Sound Has Experts Guessing
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DEEP BLUE Scientists say the call of the blue whale has dropped in frequency.

By BINA VENKATARAMAN
Published: July 29, 2008

The song of the blue whale, one of the eeriest sounds in the ocean, has mysteriously grown deeper.

The calls have been steadily dropping in frequency for seven populations of blue whales around the world over the past 40 years, say researchers at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and WhaleAcoustics, a private research company. The scientists analyzed data collected with hydrophones and other tools and found that the songs, which they believe are by males advertising for mates, had lowered by as much as 30 percent in certain populations. Much of the song lies at frequencies too low to be detected by the human ear.

The study, though not yet published, has been reviewed by several experts in the field who, in interviews, called the global decline "dramatic," "significant," "convincing" and "unequivocal."

Scientists cannot explain why blue whales from places as disparate as the northern Pacific and the Southern Ocean, which surrounds Antarctica, would drop the pitch of their songs. Each blue whale population has a distinct tempo and tone set to its vocals.

John Hildebrand, professor of oceanography at Scripps and an author of the study, said the drop might signal a rebound in the population of blue whales since commercial whaling bans began to take effect in the 1970s.

Scientists believe that only male blue whales sing. Female blue whales choose their mates based on size, a selection process that has fostered the species' gargantuan proportions. And deeper might signal bigger.

When populations were smaller, whales may have had to be louder to make their calls heard. Now, the males might be competing to make their calls deeper, said Sarah Mesnick, a behavioral ecologist at the NOAA Fisheries Service and one of the study's authors.

"The idea is, as density increases and there are more individuals competing to find mates, that we expect the mating display to change," Dr. Mesnick said. "We may be seeing that in two ways with blue whales: the songs are getting lower and a little less loud."

Typically, lower-frequency sounds travel farther. "But in the blue whale vocal range, which is 10 hertz to 100 hertz," said Mark A. McDonald, the study's lead researcher and a physicist who specializes in underwater acoustics, "there is no practical difference in the sound transmission properties in the deep ocean." And, said Roger Bland, an underwater acoustics expert at San Francisco State University, "It's easier to make a powerful sound at high frequencies."

Blue whale populations could be growing by 5 percent each year, said Trevor Branch, a fisheries scientist at the University of Washington's School of Aquatic and Fishery Sciences who studies whales. But the numbers are hard to come by and vary in quality depending on the population, because blue whales, unlike humpbacks, are elusive and rarely approach shore. Dr. Branch, who was not associated with the song study, estimates that there are up to 25,000 blue whales, compared with perhaps 300,000 before whaling. The number may have risen from a low of about 10,000 animals.

The population-rebound explanation, while speculative, is compelling to David Mellinger, a professor at the Hatfield Marine Science Center at Oregon State University who has studied blue whales for the past 16 years. Dr. Mellinger, who is not part of the study, said, "It's hard to see anything that would have impacted all of those populations and made them all decrease frequency other than the increase in the population."


#2928 From: "John Van Winkle" <jack_vanwinkle@...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:00 am
Subject: Fw: [cph_theory] Schrödinger's Universe
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Schrödinger's Universe

 

One of the very best books, that has recently come out, is Dr. Milo Wolff's brand new book:

Schrödinger's Universe.

I've just finished reading it and I predict that someday it will be ranked in importance right up there next to Newton's Principia.

I agree with the premise set forth in this book that this is indeed a scalar, standing wave, resonance universe.

Dr. Milo Wolff is correct: all electrons give and receive tiny bits of energy among each other and they do this basically (in all directions) in a scalar manner. Also Dr. Wolff reiterates constantly throughout this book that there is a definite reason for Mach's principle and the electron is a scalar, standing wave, resonance that has a spherical wave form.

This is exactly the type of resonance universe that Schrödinger claimed we have.

There are some important "firsts" in Dr. Wolff's book as well.

I was reading the final chapter of Schrödinger's Universe where Milo Wolff asked "What is the origin of space?"

If I may be so bold as to tell you the answer to what space and time really are, then here it is:

There is no such thing as force in the tensor math of General Relativity, there is only more space, than average, where repulsive force exists between two objects and less space, than average, existing between two gravitational objects that have an attractive force between themselves.

Thus the tensor math of GR shows you exactly what the origin of space is: It's telling us essentially that space and force are equivalent.

Once you see this then you can solve the paradox of "action at a distance" where the past seemingly becomes involved both in obtaining light from distant stars and in the Feynman diagrams used in quantum mechanics.

Let's first start off this tiny lesson by looking at an electron and its anti-particle the positron.

In this Schrödinger Universe, the electron is entirely constructed from two distinct frequencies, its scalar resonant frequency and its spin frequency.

The positron also is built up of the same two, its scalar frequency and its spin frequency.

But both the positron's scalar and spin frequencies are 180 degrees out of phase with the electron's scalar and spin frequencies.

So when these two standing wave entities meet, the wave crests of one go into the wave troughs of the other and both are completely annihilated.

This is one of the startling facts of quantum theory.

The people who have read my words on http://www.rbduncan.com/ and http://www.amperefitz.com know that the scalar frequency of the electron is a clock that determines time and it is the spin frequency that determines force and space (It's the spin of the electron that causes the magnetic force. Also by reading, what you see in the above links, you will see what force the spin of the quark causes).

But the entire electron is never involved in light transfers. Only a very minute portion of the closest sides of the emitting and receiving electrons are involved and if these "see" themselves as moving at the same frequency then they will also "see" themselves on the same Minkowsky light cone and they will be able to transfer this energy from one to the other.

Sigma chemical bonding is a proven fact and it is always between a spin up and a spin down electron whose closest sides are going in the same direction. Light energy is also exchanged, exactly the same way, between a spin up and a spin down electron whose closest sides are always going in the same direction.

One thing more is very important and this is that energy only diminishes with the square of the distance when multiple numbers of electrons are involved because it is these numbers involved, in the transfer, that fall off with the square of the distance. Between only two electrons the energy remains at the same strength out to the Hubble limit of distance. This is why a quantum of energy does not diminish with distance.

You see stars as being far away and their light as coming from the past. This is because the star's electrons are more out of phase with your electrons but that doesn't mean these very minute portions of the closest sides of all those electrons are going to be out of phase with a few of your electrons.

It is of little importance if the electrons on the distant star are in the past and yours are in the present: what really matters is that these very minute portions of the closest sides of the electron in your eye and the one on the star both "see" each other in the correct alignment and the very minute portions of the closest sides of both these electrons "see" their frequencies at the same phase so as to be on the same Minkowsky light cone.

Only then can light energy be transmitted.

Seeing it this way, you eliminate the necessity for aether, "action at a distance", time reversal and a lot of other nonsense.

Light goes through a vacuum!

There is absolutely nothing in a vacuum to transfer this light.

There is no such thing as aether nor is there any such thing even needed to transfer light.

But you have to know what space and time are to properly see this.

The more out of phase the scalar frequencies of two electrons are then the more time that exists between them.

Yes, the average time between the electrons on that star and the ones in your eye are indeed very much out of phase -- separated by much time -- but not a very minute portion of the closest sides of the two light transferring electrons: they are exactly in phase with each other and "see" themselves existing at the same time and on the same Minkowsy light cone.

Time and space are both phase relationships in this scalar frequency, spin frequency universe of Schrödinger.

The closer the scalar frequencies are, in phase, then the closer the items are to each other in time.

The same with spin frequencies and if no phase difference exists, in the spin frequencies, then they are in the same space.

Space and time are things that are being produced by out of phase resonances: this is simply the way things are set up in this universe and this average space and time set up between everything remains basically the same but a minor portion of it can be changed or you wouldn't have gravity or any other type force. So bits of it can be changed and are changed to give you the various forces. Only the mean or average setup remains basically the same.

You can't remove the average space and time between everything but all space and time can be removed, and is removed, from a very minute portion of two electrons with opposite spins in the same equatorial spin plane: that's exactly why we have sigma bonding along with heat and light and the radio wave spectrum.

This is how sigma bonding is produced and how light and heat are transferred: It's a direct transfer between two electrons whose very minute portions "see" themselves both in the same place at the same time. It's as simple as that.

These standing wave entities are actual wave forms and light is a wave form while in your eye but not while it is being transferred through a vacuum. It's a direct transfer through the vacuum exactly like sigma bonding. It's a Schrödinger resonance reaction. So I guess Viv Pope is right after all.

As this energy transfer of light, from a distant star in the past, comes to your eye in the present then something else important happens as well in this Universe of Schrödinger's. There is then a balance reaction in the total average phase shift of the electron's in that past to the total average phase of the scalar frequency, of all the electrons, in your present time.

Even with sunlight we are pulling enormous energy out of the past, even though it's only a few minutes in the past, but the universe balances this out as well with a simple average phase change.

It does get a bit more complicated because we have two clocks: the electron's scalar frequency and the quark's.

And we also have those two spin frequencies, as well, giving us force and space.

But it's really simple when you see how it all works.

Now for the really important question:

Is A. Garrett Lisi's mathematical Theory of Everything spherical model really a model of Dr. Milo Wolff's spherical, scalar, standing wave resonance?

Perhaps, check this link out: http://www.rbduncan.com/lisiimp.htm

Yes my friends, I'm very much afraid that, exactly like in Galileo's age, the universities are all asleep at the switch on this one too.

 

Have a good day & visit my site at goodreads:

http://www.goodreads.com/user/show/276352

Daniel P.

Fitzpatrick Jr.

Orig. July 17, 2008 revised July 19, 2008

 


#2927 From: peter beamish <beamish@...>
Date: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:50 am
Subject: Re: Superluminal "Rhythm Based Communication (RBC)"
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Dr. Hans Dieter Franke [4DWorldx on 07/15/2008] wrote:

We have somehow learned to interpret space in spatial terms and concepts
such as distance and direction and therefore space assumes a reality
that can be shared and is therefore taken as given and pre-existing.
Not so with time. Time is not interpreted in temporal terms but as a
sequential concept basically the same as the number system, the order
relations <,=,> are dubbed as earlier, now, later or past present
future. Old german and old English have the root toll for number and for
toll, to beat periodically. Hence if there is a "theory of time" it
cannot use the same generalizations as a theory of space because we have
a mental map of space (especially a mental map of our physical body) but
no mental map of time. Narratively we can recall the location of a
particular sensation of pain in the mental map of our body but not the
clock time when the sensation was felt, rather only roughly the dominant
phases of a day, such as about morning, noon, evening, night.

After all Einstein was right: time is the reading on a clock. Also,
distance is the reading on a meter stick but these two meanings are not
analogies.

My Dear Hans Dieter! "TIME IS _NOT_ THE READING ON (AT OR IN) A CLOCK!!"

"TIME IS THE (MENTAL) READING OF A CLOCK," and it may take several nano-
seconds, for the scalar labels of "Conventional time t" ("timetags"), or
the scalar labels of "Rhythm Based Time T" ("Timetags") to travel (if by
photon, "transport carriers") as cargos, FROM clock, TO Mental Thoughts.

Your 1st paragraph above seems excellent except that "Rhythm Based Time"
is NOT the same as the conventional number system, which counts into the
future! ONLY humans can count in that way! "Rhythm Based Time T, or RBT"
COUNTS INTO THE PRESENT, from "NOW TO NOW" as follows: 0, pi/2, pi, -pi,
-pi/2, 0 (all in radians). AND, in "RBT" "Late" is equal to "- Early" so
that "RBT or T" is "bidirectional" whereas "Conventional time t" is NOT.

"Chimo," Inuktitut meaning <"To Your Great Health and Great Happiness">.
"A duration (of time)" is this day #(365250+/-1461)+365250+2756=~#733256
in this 3rd Millennium. "A duraTion (of Time)" is: day #200 of this "Sun
Cycle," or this 07:00:00 hrs, min, sec of "NLTime" (not "time"), 'peter'

---- Original Message ---- From: Anna Morton at <pantheon@...>
To: <time@yahoogroups.com>; Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 3:40 "AMTime."
Subject: Re: [time] Re: Superluminal "Rhythm Based Communication (RBC)."
Yes exactly, only an apparent, variable field. This is because a  border
is always shared. Thus there is is no distance. And in 4dimensional
world, things come to a single point, making all borders shared.

My Dear Anna! There are: "Three & only 3 Orthogonal Spacial Dimensions."
Your "4dimensional world" is a "4-variable world," as "21st century time
concepts" are "scalar labels" & not "Spacial Vector Dimensions." 'peter'

On Thu, 7/10/08 at 07:00:00 h, 'peter' <beamish@...> wrote:
Subject: [time] Re: Superluminal "Rhythm Based Communication (RBC)."
Organism B moves a distance away, and thence transmits "OnTime" signals.

#2926 From: peter beamish <beamish@...>
Date: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:50 pm
Subject: Re: Superluminal "Rhythm Based Communication (RBC)"
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My Dear Anna! There are: "Three & only 3 Orthogonal Spacial Dimensions."
Your "4dimensional world" is a "4-variable world," as "21st century time
concepts" are "scalar labels" & not "Spacial Vector Dimensions." 'peter'

Anna Morton [time] wrote: - [Comments are in [square brackets] as such.]

"Yes exactly, only an apparent, variable field. This is because a border
is always shared. Thus there is is no distance. And in 4dimensional
world, things come to a single point, making all  borders shared." [???]

Gary Vezzoli wrote:

Anna and peter -- There is no field, just an apparent field. - - [????]

[A "field" is: a "region in which one object exerts a force on another,"
and a "force" is an "influence that changes an object's momentum (mv)".]

--- On Thu, 7/10/08, peter beamish <beamish@...> wrote:

From: 'peter' <beamish@...> Subject [time] Re: Superluminal
"Rhythm Based Communication (RBC)" To: time@yahoogroups.com  Date: 8/10.

Organism B moves a distance away, and thence transmits "OnTime" signals.

Anna Morton [4'Deviations' Worldx] then wrote:

"There is no distance, peter. There is only a variable field."

My Dear Anna! Distance is "space" which is a REAL vector quantity. peter

----- Original Message ----- From: 'peter' at <beamish@...>
To: <time@yahoogroups.com>; & <4DWorldx@yahoogroups.com>; et al., et al.
Sent: Thursday, July 10, '08 @ 07:00:00 hrs "NLTime" or 2:30 hrs AMTime.
Subject [time][4DWorldx] Superluminal "Rhythm Based Communication (RBC)"

- - - - - - Superluminal "Rhythm Based Communication (RBC)." - - - - - -

Two side by side organisms, A and B, obtain a "Rhythmic Synchronization"
(also, now named "SynchronizaTion," using "Rhythm Based Time RBT or T").

"RBT" is "The Perception of a 'LateTime' RELATIVE to a SynchronizaTion."

Organism B moves a distance away, and thence transmits "OnTime" signals.

Such signals arrive at the "Mental Thought Process MTP" of organism A at
an "RBC LateTime" (where: "OnTime," "LateTime" etc. is "RBC symbolism").

SVP see glossary @ <http://www.animalcontact.com/research/glossary.html>

Organism A rotates an "MTP/RBC Clock," for such a "LateTime" of organism
B, so that it becomes synchronized in "RBT" with A's own "OnTime" clock.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Thus - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -


Page Side 2 of 2

Information encoded in "Rhythm Based Time RBT or T" can be superluminal.

For a complete understanding one must realize that whereas "Conventional
time Ct or t" counts 0, pi/2, pi, 3pi/2, 2pi radians, (& thence 4pi, 6pi
etc.), "Rhythm Based Time" counts 0, pi/2, pi (= -pi), -pi/2, 0 radians.

"Chimo," Inuktitut meaning <"To Your Great Health and Great Happiness">.
"A duration (of time)" is this day #(365250+/-1461)+365250+2748=~#733248
in this 3rd Millennium. "A duraTion (of Time)" is: day #192 of this "Sun
Cycle," or this 07:00:00 hrs, min, sec of "NLTime" (not "time"), 'peter'

(Suggest copy Précises/letters to email at 72 char/line for 1 pg. side.)

Sincerely, 'peter' c. beamish, ph.d., director, "CETA-Research," Canada.
("CETA" Glossary, & Précises (Letters) should print to even page sides.)
"CETA" is: "CommunicaTions Et (And) 'TEMPS (TIME = t + T)' AssociaTion."
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - VERY NEW - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
2 Page Glossary is @ http://www.animalcontact.com/research/glossary.html
Comments/questions on these "Foundations of RBC/RBT Theory" are welcome.
The seemingly important "MVP Concept" DEFINES: "A New Mind Concept." ***
- - - - - - - - - - - - - NEW ("end line") *** - - - - - - - - - - - - -
1 Pg. Side Précises http://www.animalcontact.com/research/abstracts.html


From: 'peter' <beamish@...> 7/8/2008/22:00:00 hrs. 'NLTime'

Information encoded in "Rhythm Based Time RBT or T" can be superluminal.
Information encoded in "Conventional time Ct," or t, can NOT be as such.

2 Page Glossary is @ http://www.animalcontact.com/research/glossary.html
Comments/questions on these "Foundations of RBT/RBC Theory" are welcome.

1 Pg. Side Précises http://www.animalcontact.com/research/abstracts.html

Sincerely, 'peter' c. beamish, ph.d., director, "CETA-Research," Canada.
"CETA" is: "CommunicaTions Et (And) 'TEMPS (TIME = t + T)' AssociaTion."


ps. 6 species of "The Great Whales" + Eagles, studied today using "RBC!"

"Timetag" 12:00:00 hrs, min, sec, "NLTime" (not "Conventional time, t").

#2925 From: peter beamish <beamish@...>
Date: Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:50 pm
Subject: Re: Are Plants SuperLuminal As Well?.
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Hello John! "Are Plants SuperLuminal As Well?" IF using "RBC," then yes!
You also say: "Plants Don't Lie." If using "RBC," => presumably correct!
"RBC" both requires & produces "low biological stress," & is altruistic!

Sincerely, 'peter' c. beamish, ph.d., director, "CETA-Research," Canada.
2 Page Glossary is @ http://www.animalcontact.com/research/glossary.html
1 Pg. Side Précises http://www.animalcontact.com/research/abstracts.html

"Timetag" 15:00:00 hrs "NLTime"


John Van Winkle wrote:

Cleve Backster's singular experiments, if I recall, recorded
instantaneous responses on his lie detector from hundreds of miles
distance.  Thought I would post this before looking further for that
information. JohnV
Tuesday, March 14, 2006

Plants Don't Lie

<http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3804/2075/1600/moonsurface.jpg>

Imagine a world without plants? The moon is such a place. It looks nice
in the sky, but we wouldn't want to live on it. Aristotle told us plants
have souls, but cannot feel. The early 20th-century botanist Raoul
France of Vienna told us plants move as freely and as gracefully as a
prima ballerina, but that we don't see it because of the speed of their
dance (the interplay of time). Joseph Campbell in conversation with Bill
Moyer's on the PBS special The Power of Myth described the graceful
dance of a flowering vine as it wound its way up a column on his porch
in Hawaii.
<http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3804/2075/1600/GreFlo400.jpg>As the
plant produced its flowering bud it turned to meet the sun. Campbell
went on to say that if that movement toward the sun isn't conscious
behaviour than he did not know what was. The dogma of science claims the
plant's turning to the sun is a simple genetic matter of heliotropism.
This is another example of our limited definition of consciousness and
our egocentric view toward it.

The acacia plant engages in a co-operative play with a particular
species of ant. The ant protects the acacia from harmful insects and in
return the acacia feeds the ants its nectar. Several hundred years of
looking through a straw at the parts of nature and thereby ignoring the
whole dance has convinced us that we are the only possessors of
consciousness. The problem lies in our tiny definition of the word.

<http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3804/2075/1600/KirlianLeaf.jpg>It
seems the height of hubris to think that it is only genetic triggers
developed through a coincidental mechanistic universe that allows a
plant to develop in such a way as to attract specific insects to help it
in its pollination process. In their book, "The Secret Life of Plants,"
Peter Tompkins and Christopher Bird cite the orchid Trichoceros, which
grows its petals to match so perfectly the female of a particular
species of fly that the male attempts to mate with it, thereby
pollinating the orchid. They go on to mention the carrion lily, which
produces the scent of rotting meat. The carrion lily has chosen to grow
where there are few insects other than flies.
<http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3804/2075/1600/heliotro.jpg>
Trapped in our own anthropocentric and dogmatic view of the world we
have become insensitive to aspects of the outer world that plants
respond to so exquisitely. One need only consider what our current
worldview has wrought on our environment to begin a change to a new
paradigm where consciousness is universal and cooperation replaces
competition.

Life sometimes orchestrates things better and more oddly than a Rod
Serling Twilight Zone episode. In the 1960s, New Yorker Clive Backster
was America's best known examiner of liars and cheats, a real pioneer in
lie detector examination. He eventually became better known as the man
who discovered consciousness in plants.
<http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3804/2075/1600/twilght3.1.jpg>The
story is worth hearing. The year was 1966 and Backster had had a long
day on this particular eventful day. It was late evening and he had just
finished teaching his last class to a group of NYC cops, who wanted to
learn his techniques. As he sat alone in his office he looked over at
his tropical plant, the dracaena, and was overcome with an impulse. He
had never done it before, was not a horticulturalist, and had no reason
to do what he did. Backster moved from behind his desk and attached a
set of electrodes from one of his lie detectors to the palm-like leaf of
the dracaena plant. He then poured water into the plant's pot and
watched his lie detector to see if there was a reaction. Backster
expected his lie detector to show less resistance as the plant sucked up
the water. A moister plant should conduct more electricity. To his
surprise, however, the pin of the detector, instead of tracing upward,
traced downward. His jaw dropped to the floor, metaphorically speaking,
of course. His plant produced the same kind of tracing a human produces
when experiencing a short emotional burst. Was the plant happy to have
had a drink? What started as an impulse now took on conscious intent.

Backster decided to ratchet things up. He knew that in order to get the
galvanometer to really jump for a human required a threat to their
personal integrity. He tried to reproduce a jump in the galvanometer by
dunking the plant's leaf in his cup of hot coffee. Nothing happened.
Backster determined that the threat was not strong enough and decided to
burn the leaf to which the electrodes were attached. To his utter
amazement the pin of the lie detector displayed a long upward swing
before he could even get his hand on some matches. It was as if the
plant perceived his thoughts and reacted to what was about to happen. He
left the room to fetch some matches, intent on carrying out his plan.
When he approached the plant it again produced the same upward
deflection of the pin. When he actually burned the leaf he got a
slightly lower reaction on the graph.

To test to see whether the plant's first reaction was truly precognitive
he decided to pretend to burn the leaf. The plant showed no reaction at
all. Could the plant really discriminate between real and feigned
intent? It seemed so. Backster eventually went on to do extensive tests
on plants all over the country with the same results. Plants, in some
way, are linked to their immediate environment and apparently respond
emotionally to perceived attacks on itself and others. Clive Backster's
medical consultant, New Jersey cytologist Dr. Howard Miller, concluded
that the plants reactions must represent some sort of cellular
consciousness.

In one experiment designed to test the plants' reactions over distance
he sent a female friend on a 700 mile plane trip across the United
States, synchronized his watch with hers' and attached his lie detector
electrodes to her favourite plant. Astonishingly the plant reacted to
the woman's emotional upset each time the plane took off or landed. Such
reaction in a plant is astonishing in itself, but even more astonishing
is that it was felt at a distance. Nonlocal reactions, according to
science, are not supposed to be real in humans, let alone in plants, but
quantum
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know that nonlocal reactions are real. Tompkins and Bird quote Backster
as saying, "Sentience does not seem to stop at the cellular level. It
may go down to the molecular, the atomic, even the sub-atomic. All sorts
of things that had been conventionally considered to be inanimate may
have to be re-evaluated."
Bill Marshall

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#2924 From: "John Van Winkle" <jack_vanwinkle@...>
Date: Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:10 pm
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Cleve Backster's singular experiments, if I recall, recorded instantaneous responses on his lie detector from hundreds of miles distance.  Thought I would post this before looking further for that information. JohnV 

Tuesday, March 14, 2006

Plants Don't Lie

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Imagine a world without plants? The moon is such a place. It looks nice in the sky, but we wouldn't want to live on it. Aristotle told us plants have souls, but cannot feel. The early 20th-century botanist Raoul France of Vienna told us plants move as freely and as gracefully as a prima ballerina, but that we don't see it because of the speed of their dance (the interplay of time). Joseph Campbell in conversation with Bill Moyer's on the PBS special The Power of Myth described the graceful dance of a flowering vine as it wound its way up a column on his porch in Hawaii. http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3804/2075/320/GreFlo400.jpgAs the plant produced its flowering bud it turned to meet the sun. Campbell went on to say that if that movement toward the sun isn't conscious behaviour than he did not know what was. The dogma of science claims the plant's turning to the sun is a simple genetic matter of heliotropism. This is another example of our limited definition of consciousness and our egocentric view toward it.

The acacia plant engages in a co-operative play with a particular species of ant. The ant protects the acacia from harmful insects and in return the acacia feeds the ants its nectar. Several hundred years of looking through a straw at the parts of nature and thereby ignoring the whole dance has convinced us that we are the only possessors of consciousness. The problem lies in our tiny definition of the word.

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3804/2075/320/KirlianLeaf.jpgIt seems the height of hubris to think that it is only genetic triggers developed through a coincidental mechanistic universe that allows a plant to develop in such a way as to attract specific insects to help it in its pollination process. In their book, "The Secret Life of Plants," Peter Tompkins and Christopher Bird cite the orchid Trichoceros, which grows its petals to match so perfectly the female of a particular species of fly that the male attempts to mate with it, thereby pollinating the orchid. They go on to mention the carrion lily, which produces the scent of rotting meat. The carrion lily has chosen to grow where there are few insects other than flies.
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Trapped in our own anthropocentric and dogmatic view of the world we have become insensitive to aspects of the outer world that plants respond to so exquisitely. One need only consider what our current worldview has wrought on our environment to begin a change to a new paradigm where consciousness is universal and cooperation replaces competition.

Life sometimes orchestrates things better and more oddly than a Rod Serling Twilight Zone episode. In the 1960s, New Yorker Clive Backster was America's best known examiner of liars and cheats, a real pioneer in lie detector examination. He eventually became better known as the man who discovered consciousness in plants. http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3804/2075/320/twilght3.1.jpgThe story is worth hearing. The year was 1966 and Backster had had a long day on this particular eventful day. It was late evening and he had just finished teaching his last class to a group of NYC cops, who wanted to learn his techniques. As he sat alone in his office he looked over at his tropical plant, the dracaena, and was overcome with an impulse. He had never done it before, was not a horticulturalist, and had no reason to do what he did
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Backster moved from behind his desk and attached a set of electrodes from one of his lie detectors to the palm-like leaf of the dracaena plant. He then poured water into the plant's pot and watched his lie detector to see if there was a reaction. Backster expected his lie detector to show less resistance as the plant sucked up the water. A moister plant should conduct more electricity. To his surprise, however, the pin of the detector, instead of tracing upward, traced downward. His jaw dropped to the floor, metaphorically speaking, of course. His plant produced the same kind of tracing a human produces when experiencing a short emotional burst. Was the plant happy to have had a drink? What started as an impulse now took on conscious intent.

Backster decided to ratchet things up. He knew that in order to get the galvanometer to really jump for a human required a threat to their personal integrity. He tried to reproduce a jump in the galvanometer by dunking the plant's leaf in his cup of hot coffee. Nothing happened. Backster determined that the threat was not strong enough and decided to burn the leaf to which the electrodes were attached. To his utter amazement the pin of the lie detector displayed a long upward swing before he could even get his hand on some matches. It was as if the plant perceived his thoughts and reacted to what was about to happen. He left the room to fetch some matches, intent on carrying out his plan. When he approached the plant it again produced the same upward deflection of the pin. When he actually burned the leaf he got a slightly lower reaction on the graph.

To test to see whether the plant's first reaction was truly precognitive he decided to pretend to burn the leaf. The plant showed no reaction at all. Could the plant really discriminate between real and feigned intent? It seemed so. Backster eventually went on to do extensive tests on plants all over the country with the same results. Plants, in some way, are linked to their immediate environment and apparently respond emotionally to perceived attacks on itself and others. Clive Backster's medical consultant, New Jersey cytologist Dr. Howard Miller, concluded that the plants reactions must represent some sort of cellular consciousness.

In one experiment designed to test the plants' reactions over distance he sent a female friend on a 700 mile plane trip across the United States, synchronized his watch with hers' and attached his lie detector electrodes to her favourite plant. Astonishingly the plant reacted to the woman's emotional upset each time the plane took off or landed. Such reaction in a plant is astonishing in itself, but even more astonishing is that it was felt at a distance. Nonlocal reactions, according to science, are not supposed to be real in humans, let alone in plants, but quantum http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3804/2075/320/image8MU.1.jpgphysicists know that nonlocal reactions are real. Tompkins and Bird quote Backster as saying, "Sentience does not seem to stop at the cellular level. It may go down to the molecular, the atomic, even the sub-atomic. All sorts of things that had been conventionally considered to be inanimate may have to be re-evaluated."
Bill Marshall

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