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Re: One-third of France's nukes shut down

--- In Know_Nukes@yahoogroups.com, esbuck@... wrote:
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> I recall eating at a restaurant on the coast in the Los Angeles area. One
> could see a clump of dozens of fishermen, shoulder to shoulder, happily
> fishing, but none elsewhere. I asked about it, and I was told that was the
> outfall of cooling water from a nearby (non-nuclear) power plant. The warm
> water attracted fish. So much for thermal pollution.
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Actually I've fished at my power plant out fall as well on my time off. The
problem, more seriously, with 'thermal pollution' isn't the thermal part, that
is on the outfall side, it's on the intake.

The "issue" is that the water, a small circulating water pump can pump 100,000
gallons a minute, (mine is about 130kgpm), and the condensers where the heat is
transferred to the circulating water back to the river/ocean/bay kills a lot
baby fish. Really.

I have questions about the true environmental effect of this as it is extremely
localized and usually small fish or 'fry' that are killed (by impact of the
pumps and cooked in the condensers) tend to be then used as food for other fish
or, make room in the ecological niche for other fish to survive.

In the anti-power plant press you will see statements that "hundreds of
millions" or even "billions" of "fish" are killed every year. Yeah, a 'true
fact' as they say, but out of context for the entire ecology of a given water
body.

David





Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:20 am

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High temperatures have forced France to shut down 20 gigawatts of nuclear generation, according to the London Times. ...
schedule80
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Jul 8, 2009
3:36 am

During a heat wave in 2003, the river water temperatures upstream of several of France's nuclear plants exceeded the 24C limit. The following link (pdf)...
schedule80
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Jul 9, 2009
2:01 am

Yes, it is difficult to cool a reactor with intake water that is warmer than the discharge water. NASA had a small research reactor at their Plum Brook...
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esbuck2000
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Jul 9, 2009
8:42 pm

Wow...considering fresh water IS radioactive, that would be a hard hurtle to pass. Kind of like the panic over the Japanese earth quake in 2007 where there was...
David Walters
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Jul 9, 2009
9:39 pm

This gets more questionable the more I look into it. There are descriptions, usually with pictures, of the French nuclear stations in Wikipedia. Almost all of...
schedule80
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Jul 10, 2009
1:10 am

Pete, like you, I'm more familiar with once-through cooling systems. Actually, evaporative cooling systems, excluding latest 'keller'? models which only...
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Jul 10, 2009
4:37 pm

I recall eating at a restaurant on the coast in the Los Angeles area. One could see a clump of dozens of fishermen, shoulder to shoulder, happily fishing,...
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Jul 10, 2009
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... Actually I've fished at my power plant out fall as well on my time off. The problem, more seriously, with 'thermal pollution' isn't the thermal part, that...
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