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#19798 From: naresh bhalala <nbhalala@...>
Date: Wed Jun 1, 2005 1:12 pm
Subject: Help me on KDeveloper
nbhalala
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Hello Friends,

I have finished with my project compilation using
normal settings (as it's cpp project, it must have
used g++ compiler)
Now same project I have to compile and run using
arm-linux-g++ compiler....
I can see the "Compiler option" in Project->options
but dont know How to change "g++" compiler to
"arm-linux-g++" compiler so it can compile my project
with "arm-linux-g++" compiler .....

thanks
regards...Naresh

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#19799 From: Davey Brain <dsbrain@...>
Date: Wed Jun 1, 2005 3:48 pm
Subject: Re: Help Regarding KDeveloper
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naresh bhalala wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have finished with my one project deceloped in
> Microsoft VC++ under windows...
>
> Now I need to port into Linux and want to use
> KDeveloper as a IDE for same project....
> any one can give me idea/advise how to load same
> project in KDeveloper
> or any link/page/doc/pdf/article on this ...
>
> thanks
> regards.....Naresh
>

Hi,
I went to Google <http://www.google.com> and did a search on this
phrase: 'Microsoft "Visual C++" files in Linux'. It came up with some
links (231,000) and some on the first page look very useful and
informative. Feel free to explore those links.

I hope this helps.
WarpDavey
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#19800 From: Nithin Kamath <knithink@...>
Date: Wed Jun 1, 2005 12:23 pm
Subject: Export Firefox and Thunderbird data to different distro....
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Hello all,

I am currently on Mandrake (mandriva) 10.1 with firefox 1.0 and
thunderbird 1.0 both installed in my home folder as "firefox-installer"
and "thunderbird".

My question is how do i move the my firefox themes,extensions and the
"scrapbook" extenstion data to Ubuntu 5.04 which has firefox installed
in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox

Also i want to move all my thunderbird mails to thunderbird in
Ubuntu....And advice and suggestions.

Regards,
NK
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#19801 From: naresh bhalala <nbhalala@...>
Date: Thu Jun 2, 2005 6:27 am
Subject: Re: Help please - smb
nbhalala
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Hi Dan,

appreciating your support/EMail/sugg
thanks once again...

Naresh

--- Dan Engel <dan@...> wrote:

> naresh bhalala wrote:
>
> >Hi
> >I have Development Board (EDB9302) from Cirrus
> >Logic...
> >Having Cirrus-arm-linux-1.4.3
> >and Kernel is ver 2.4.21
> >
> >While configuring the kernel configuration, It
> shows
> >only 1 option regarding smb i.e. smb file system
> >support (for windows folder share etc)
> >
> >where to get add user name , set password....???Is
> it
> >after this kernel get boot up ???
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Yes, after the kernel is booted.
>
> This is actually the same for all filesystems. Once
> the kernel is
> booted, it mounts the filesystems according to
> options provided in
> various places (/etc/fstab is the most direct
> place). One of those
> options is the "type." In your case, the type would
> be "smbfs." But then
> you would have to provide the username and password
> as options. You
> would also have to specify where to mount from
> (which Windows computer
> and the name of the shared drive).
>
> By the way, regarding your original post, it appears
> you may have a
> misunderstanding of the relationship between the
> samba service and the
> smbfs module.
>
> The samba service allows your Linux computer to
> export directory shares
> to Windows computers. It does not interact in any
> way with the smbfs
> module, or with mounting smbfs filesystems.
>
> The smbfs module is a samba client, which means it
> can import Windows
> directory shares to local mount points. It does not
> share local
> directories with other computers, though.
>
>





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#19802 From: Jaqui Greenlees <jaqui_greenlees@...>
Date: Thu Jun 2, 2005 10:11 am
Subject: Re: Export Firefox and Thunderbird data to different distro....
jaqui_greenlees
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--- Nithin Kamath <knithink@...> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I am currently on Mandrake (mandriva) 10.1 with
> firefox 1.0 and
> thunderbird 1.0 both installed in my home folder as
> "firefox-installer"
> and "thunderbird".
>
> My question is how do i move the my firefox
> themes,extensions and the
> "scrapbook" extenstion data to Ubuntu 5.04 which has
> firefox installed
> in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox
>
> Also i want to move all my thunderbird mails to
> thunderbird in
> Ubuntu....And advice and suggestions.

change view settings in your filesystem browser to
show hidden / system files.
copy the .mozilla directory to cdrom
copy it from cd to the ubuntu directory.
all user data ( emails, bookmarks, config data ) has
been transferred. )

copy the themes etc from the mozilla-firefox directory
to the cdrom.
login as root
copy the themes etc from cdrom to the same directory
in the /usr/lib/ubuntu/ tree



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#19803 From: Jaqui Greenlees <jaqui_greenlees@...>
Date: Thu Jun 2, 2005 10:17 am
Subject: Re: Help me on KDeveloper
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--- naresh bhalala <nbhalala@...> wrote:

> Hello Friends,
>
> I have finished with my project compilation using
> normal settings (as it's cpp project, it must have
> used g++ compiler)
> Now same project I have to compile and run using
> arm-linux-g++ compiler....
> I can see the "Compiler option" in Project->options
> but dont know How to change "g++" compiler to
> "arm-linux-g++" compiler so it can compile my
> project
> with "arm-linux-g++" compiler .....
>
> thanks
> regards...Naresh

edit the configure script and makefile for the
project.
specially the makefile

generally, make will call gcc, so to ensure the
desired compiler is used you have to set a macro in it
to call the arm-linux-g++ compiler instead, depending
on invocation of make
ie make --arm -all
if the compiler doesn't appear in the kdevelop
compiler list then that is the only option.
if it appears in the compiler list then you can just
select it from the drop down list where the comipler
is specified.
no drop down, then edit kdevelop's advanced options to
include it as a compiler option.
pointing kevelop to the arm-linux-g++ executable in
the process

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#19804 From: "fan_gnr" <fan_gnr@...>
Date: Thu Jun 2, 2005 10:08 am
Subject: Links added.
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I have added some links to the links section of this group.

Check them out at

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LINUX_Newbies/links

#19805 From: "fan_gnr" <fan_gnr@...>
Date: Thu Jun 2, 2005 10:08 am
Subject: Links added.
fan_gnr
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I have added some links to the links section of this group.

Check them out at

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LINUX_Newbies/links

#19806 From: "Michael Sullivan" <michael@...>
Date: Thu Jun 2, 2005 9:57 pm
Subject: Parsing $1 in a shell script
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I'm working on a small shell script that will assist in creating other
scripts.  Here is what I have thus far:

#!/bin/sh

if (test -z $1)
then
    echo "Usage:  scriptcreate <filename>"
else
    touch $1
    chmod +x $1
    vi $1
fi


I'm fairly new to shell scripting, so I don't really know my way
around yet.  I want to be able to check the extension of the file and
insert the proper common information into the created file.  For
example, if the filename specified ends in ".pl" I want to "echo
#!/usr/bin/perl -w  >> $1" right before the vi line.  I want to be
able to do this with multiple types of scripts, but I don't know how
to phrase my inquiry to search Google....

#19807 From: naresh bhalala <nbhalala@...>
Date: Fri Jun 3, 2005 6:16 am
Subject: Need to clear OS concepts...
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Hello Friends,

As I'm not MUCH aware of Linux OS internals...I need
to understand few concepts comapred to WINDOWS -
1. Multi-threading
2. IPC (Semaphores, Message Queues, Shared Memory)

thanks
regards.....Naresh

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#19808 From: "Ayush Sharma" <redhotchillipepper_ashes@...>
Date: Mon Jun 6, 2005 3:06 pm
Subject: Hey all
redhotchilli...
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Hellos. I'm your newest member, and would like to learn how to make
Ubuntu Linux recognize my PS/2 or Optical mouse. Better yet, teach me
how to make ANY linux recognize ANY mouse...


Thanks a bunch,
any and all help will be appreciated,
ViSigoTH.

#19809 From: naresh bhalala <nbhalala@...>
Date: Thu Jun 9, 2005 10:33 am
Subject: Also .... Join New Group and share OPEN SOURCE stuffs
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Hello Everybody,

This is Naresh Bhalala....
Come and Join the group at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nbhalala/

Let's promote Linux kernel more and more....
The future OS : Linux....

Share knowledge....Share Open Source datas....

Do not Ignore Windows but at least help me in making
all PCs in this world - Dual boot with LINUX.....

thanks
regards....Naresh

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#19810 From: "Burak Ural" <mburak@...>
Date: Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:03 am
Subject: usb 2.0 high speed support
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Hi everyone,

Does anyone know a live-distro which supports usb 2.0 ports and
storage devices to run them at high speed (~60mb/sec) ?
I have 4 usb 2.0 ports and 3 usb cases and they perform at usb 1.1
speed . I use Knoppix 3.6, feather 0.7.4 , insert from ubcd 3.3

If anyone know a LIVE (runs from cd or usb pen drive) distro that will
enable me to access devices at high speed (usb 2.0) , please let me
know...

Thanks,
Burak

#19811 From: Maccy <maccy@...>
Date: Fri Jun 10, 2005 9:39 am
Subject: Re: usb 2.0 high speed support
maccymaccomms
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On Fri, 10 Jun 2005, Burak Ural wrote:
> If anyone know a LIVE (runs from cd or usb pen drive) distro that will
> enable me to access devices at high speed (usb 2.0) , please let me
> know...

http://www.knoppix.org

Maccy

#19812 From: "Naresh Bhalala" <nbhalala@...>
Date: Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:01 pm
Subject: Let's also join this OPEN SOURCE Group
nbhalala
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Hello Everybody,

We are really appreciating the current group - "Linux Newbies"
but
there is one more group who is totally OPEN SOURCE and also having
discussions related to Advance Tech as details mentione below:

Group Name: "FutureOS_LINUX"
The Future is LINUX OS: I'm here to PROMOTE Linus Torvalds's Creation
- LINUX KERNEL... Join my group and Lets get together... share
knowledge....share OPEN SOURCE stuffs..Share whatever u feel....
Peoples have habbit of google many times...Come and post here ur
queries, share the data u have searched.... Lets make everything open
source... LINUX - KERNEL Module Programming LINUX - Write Linux Device
Drivers Building Embedded Linux System Thanks for reading and will
feel happy to see you in my Group.

Plz join this group and let's share the LINUX knowledge !!!!

thanks
regards.....Naresh (Moderator)

#19813 From: "sridhar_kutti" <sridharvishwanathan@...>
Date: Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:59 am
Subject: Re: usb 2.0 high speed support
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--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "Burak Ural" <mburak@s...> wrote:

> If anyone know a LIVE (runs from cd or usb pen drive) distro that will
> enable me to access devices at high speed (usb 2.0) , please let me
> know...

Try runt linux... its boots from a usb drive and its size is only 50 MB.

http://www.ncsu.edu/project/runt/

Cheerz,
Sridhar

#19814 From: "Mark Kelly" <drac0@...>
Date: Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:36 pm
Subject: Re: Let's also join this OPEN SOURCE Group
the_oz_roost...
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This is not an advertizing list for other groups - member has been
removed. Any other postings of a similar nature will see the
originating member banned.

--- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "Naresh Bhalala" <nbhalala@y...>
wrote:
> Hello Everybody,
>
> We are really appreciating the current group - "Linux Newbies"
> but
> there is one more group who is totally OPEN SOURCE and also having
> discussions related to Advance Tech as details mentione below:
>
> Group Name: "FutureOS_LINUX"
> The Future is LINUX OS: I'm here to PROMOTE Linus Torvalds's Creation
> - LINUX KERNEL... Join my group and Lets get together... share
> knowledge....share OPEN SOURCE stuffs..Share whatever u feel....
> Peoples have habbit of google many times...Come and post here ur
> queries, share the data u have searched.... Lets make everything open
> source... LINUX - KERNEL Module Programming LINUX - Write Linux Device
> Drivers Building Embedded Linux System Thanks for reading and will
> feel happy to see you in my Group.
>
> Plz join this group and let's share the LINUX knowledge !!!!
>
> thanks
> regards.....Naresh (Moderator)

#19815 From: naresh bhalala <nbhalala@...>
Date: Thu Jun 16, 2005 2:54 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Let's also join this OPEN SOURCE Group
nbhalala
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Hello Kelly,

Come on .. we r working on open source OS so be open
source minded.....

take care....thank
regards...Naresh

--- Mark Kelly <drac0@...> wrote:

> This is not an advertizing list for other groups -
> member has been
> removed. Any other postings of a similar nature will
> see the
> originating member banned.
>
> --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "Naresh
> Bhalala" <nbhalala@y...>
> wrote:
> > Hello Everybody,
> >
> > We are really appreciating the current group -
> "Linux Newbies"
> > but
> > there is one more group who is totally OPEN SOURCE
> and also having
> > discussions related to Advance Tech as details
> mentione below:
> >
> > Group Name: "FutureOS_LINUX"
> > The Future is LINUX OS: I'm here to PROMOTE Linus
> Torvalds's Creation
> > - LINUX KERNEL... Join my group and Lets get
> together... share
> > knowledge....share OPEN SOURCE stuffs..Share
> whatever u feel....
> > Peoples have habbit of google many times...Come
> and post here ur
> > queries, share the data u have searched.... Lets
> make everything open
> > source... LINUX - KERNEL Module Programming LINUX
> - Write Linux Device
> > Drivers Building Embedded Linux System Thanks for
> reading and will
> > feel happy to see you in my Group.
> >
> > Plz join this group and let's share the LINUX
> knowledge !!!!
> >
> > thanks
> > regards.....Naresh (Moderator)
>
>
>




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#19816 From: "digital_brahman" <digital_brahman@...>
Date: Fri Jun 17, 2005 3:08 am
Subject: More Linux in Colleges
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Newbiez,

How's Life?? I wanted to start a new thread of discussion, therefore
this post.

I am doing a technical course from Mumbai University. Being a Linux
Freak, I was shocked to see almost every computer on campus with only
Windows 98 or Windows NT (at the server). Why do you think that this
is so? Linux if free and with flavours like Linspire, Red Hat and
Mandrake - it's getting easier to install and use.

Debian and BSD, accoriding to me, still provide some of the best free
development tool which is essential to a developer like myself.

Is this scene a common one all across India?

I'd like to know your thoughts.

Thanks.

The Digital Brahman

#19817 From: SauL Mena Avila <saul_hood@...>
Date: Fri Jun 17, 2005 5:05 am
Subject: Instalacion de programas
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I'd like to know if for example I wanto to install the
realplayer 8 but I have already installed the
realplayer 7, do I have to uninstall the realplayer 7?
And if it is like that, how do I achieve it?

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    -Mi Epitafio, Idea original de Diana y Esmeralda



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#19818 From: Joan Leach <jleach728@...>
Date: Fri Jun 17, 2005 6:06 am
Subject: Re: Instalacion de programas
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--- SauL Mena Avila <saul_hood@...> wrote:

> I'd like to know if for example I wanto to install
> the
> realplayer 8 but I have already installed the
> realplayer 7, do I have to uninstall the realplayer
> 7?
> And if it is like that, how do I achieve it?
>
> "Aquí yace SauL, de quien el Universo siempre se
> burló y aún así, se divirtió"
>    -Mi Epitafio, Idea original de Diana y Esmeralda
>
Hi,

You should say which distro you are using as the
instructions might be different.

Joan

#19819 From: Joan Leach <jleach728@...>
Date: Fri Jun 17, 2005 6:28 am
Subject: Re: More Linux in Colleges
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--- digital_brahman <digital_brahman@...> wrote:

> Newbiez,
>
> How's Life?? I wanted to start a new thread of
> discussion, therefore
> this post.
>
> I am doing a technical course from Mumbai
> University. Being a Linux
> Freak, I was shocked to see almost every computer on
> campus with only
> Windows 98 or Windows NT (at the server). Why do you
> think that this
> is so? Linux if free and with flavors like
> Linspire, Red Hat and
> Mandrake - it's getting easier to install and use.
>
> Debian and BSD, according to me, still provide some
> of the best free
> development tool which is essential to a developer
> like myself.
>
> Is this scene a common one all across India?
>
> I'd like to know your thoughts.
>
> Thanks.
>
> The Digital Brahman
>
Hi,

It's not just in India, it's in the state of Nevada,
too.  The community college has classes in A+
hardware/software, Unix and Linux, but we have to have
removable drives in those computer classes, plus the
rows of PCs have to be unlocked because of the Sentry
system they use to allow any OS to be installed.  I
know they use Linux for the campus phone messaging.
They may be using Netware somewhere, too.

But at the 4-year college they don't have the classes
described like this.  I know one of my teachers was a
System Admin in their computer center, and said you
better learn your BASH and VI if you want to be one.

I remember one Linux student brought his own laptop
and plugged it in so he could use Linux instead of
Windows when he could.  He said he was going to
transfer to a school with more Linux classes.  I think
our higher learning tuition dollars may convince the
schools in the end.  Or the businesses clamber for
more of us to be trained.

Good luck,
Joan

#19820 From: naresh bhalala <nbhalala@...>
Date: Fri Jun 17, 2005 6:46 am
Subject: Re: More Linux in Colleges
nbhalala
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Hello Brahman and Joan...

Agree with all ur statement !!!!
I think no more discussion required on this topic as
we were already discussed a lot on same...

Now this is time to take some action....
Let's meet somewhere and try to find sokution of this
asap....Let's go and meet this college and give them
idea of use of OPEN SOURCE - Linux OS...

then only they will come to know about it....

No use with sharing thoughts offline...Let's do some
action....

thanks
regards....Naresh (Group Moderator - FutureOS_Linux)

--- Joan Leach <jleach728@...> wrote:

> --- digital_brahman <digital_brahman@...>
> wrote:
>
> > Newbiez,
> >
> > How's Life?? I wanted to start a new thread of
> > discussion, therefore
> > this post.
> >
> > I am doing a technical course from Mumbai
> > University. Being a Linux
> > Freak, I was shocked to see almost every computer
> on
> > campus with only
> > Windows 98 or Windows NT (at the server). Why do
> you
> > think that this
> > is so? Linux if free and with flavors like
> > Linspire, Red Hat and
> > Mandrake - it's getting easier to install and use.
> >
> > Debian and BSD, according to me, still provide
> some
> > of the best free
> > development tool which is essential to a developer
> > like myself.
> >
> > Is this scene a common one all across India?
> >
> > I'd like to know your thoughts.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > The Digital Brahman
> >
> Hi,
>
> It's not just in India, it's in the state of Nevada,
> too.  The community college has classes in A+
> hardware/software, Unix and Linux, but we have to
> have
> removable drives in those computer classes, plus the
> rows of PCs have to be unlocked because of the
> Sentry
> system they use to allow any OS to be installed.  I
> know they use Linux for the campus phone messaging.
> They may be using Netware somewhere, too.
>
> But at the 4-year college they don't have the
> classes
> described like this.  I know one of my teachers was
> a
> System Admin in their computer center, and said you
> better learn your BASH and VI if you want to be one.
>
> I remember one Linux student brought his own laptop
> and plugged it in so he could use Linux instead of
> Windows when he could.  He said he was going to
> transfer to a school with more Linux classes.  I
> think
> our higher learning tuition dollars may convince the
> schools in the end.  Or the businesses clamber for
> more of us to be trained.
>
> Good luck,
> Joan
>




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#19821 From: Robert C Wittig <wittig@...>
Date: Fri Jun 17, 2005 11:23 am
Subject: Re: More Linux in Colleges
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Hello Joan,

JL> --- digital_brahman <digital_brahman@...> wrote:

>> Being a Linux Freak, I was shocked to see almost every computer on
>> campus with only Windows 98 or Windows NT (at the server). Why do
>> you think that this is so?

Because the people who buy computers and decide what operating systems
to run are not computer techs, and make their purchasing decisions
based on things other than which is the leading edge, in computing
advancement.

They are running operating systems that are quite old, so they
probably have not upgraded their equipment in a long time. If the
physical computers were new when the Windows 98 and NT OS's were
installed, they might be early Pentium machines, which would be
capable of running Linux, but probably not the latest, greatest
versions, which can be pretty resource hungry, by 1998 standards.

>> Linux if free and with flavors like Linspire, Red Hat and Mandrake
>> - it's getting easier to install and use.
>>
>> Debian and BSD, according to me, still provide some of the best
>> free development tool which is essential to a developer like
>> myself.

'Free', as far as initial cost, does not mean 'free', in terms of
implementation... especially on a platform as large as a major
university.

I am a single individual with a personal LAN, and am currently running
Red Hat Enterprise, Debian HPPA (on an HP9000 PA-RISC server),
FreeBSD, and Windows 2k Pro.

While I am a serious student of *nix, and see Open Source as the wave
of the future, I came from a DOS-Windows upbringing, and have some
software, and a couple pieces of hardware, that are useful enough to
me (or have nostalgic attachment, like some of my really old DOS
applications), so that I will probably keep Win2k around indefinitely.

Making the move from WinDOS to *nix was definitely not 'free'. I do
use my computers to earn my living, and it has taken me a lot of time
reading, studying, practicing, etc., to become even basically
competent as a small LAN administrator, and me, being the only person
using the LAN.<g>

Don't get me wrong... I really love *nix now, which make the extra
work/study a pleasure, more than a chore, but as a person who grew up
with DOS, and then Windows (I was a DOS-Windows techie, too, not a raw
end-user)... making the move to *nix, while at the same time keeping
my small business running smoothly, was no simple matter, and I am
still not completely finished with the transition, after roughly 3.5
years under my belt, working with Linux.

I can only imagine how hard it might be for a university to make the
switch for Windows to *nix, without interrupting the operations of the
university.


Friday, June 17, 2005, 1:28:29 AM, Joan wrote:

JL> It's not just in India, it's in the state of Nevada,
JL> too.  The community college has classes in A+
JL> hardware/software, Unix and Linux, but we have to have
JL> removable drives in those computer classes, plus the
JL> rows of PCs have to be unlocked because of the Sentry
JL> system they use to allow any OS to be installed.  I
JL> know they use Linux for the campus phone messaging.
JL> They may be using Netware somewhere, too.

JL> But at the 4-year college they don't have the classes
JL> described like this.  I know one of my teachers was a
JL> System Admin in their computer center, and said you
JL> better learn your BASH and VI if you want to be one.

JL> I remember one Linux student brought his own laptop
JL> and plugged it in so he could use Linux instead of
JL> Windows when he could.  He said he was going to
JL> transfer to a school with more Linux classes.  I think
JL> our higher learning tuition dollars may convince the
JL> schools in the end.  Or the businesses clamber for
JL> more of us to be trained.

In my opinion, you people in university now, are the very first true
generation of Linux Users. Your teachers and the folks running the
universities grew up, as I did, with DOS and Windows (and Mac) on
their PC's. So it is going to be *your* job to implement *nix and Open
Source computing in the universities... not by demanding that the
previous generation change (they were, after all, the ones who got
computing of any sort onto the university curricula).

You will probably wind up getting *nix and Open Source into the
universities... and from there as the dominant computing model in the
world, displacing Windows and Closed Source, not by bothering the
teachers and administrators who are now in place to change... but by
graduating, and taking their jobs over, and implementing the changes
yourselves.<g>


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#19822 From: Robert C Wittig <wittig@...>
Date: Fri Jun 17, 2005 11:57 am
Subject: Re: More Linux in Colleges
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Hello naresh,

Friday, June 17, 2005, 1:46:46 AM, you wrote:

nb> Agree with all ur statement !!!!
nb> I think no more discussion required on this topic as
nb> we were already discussed a lot on same...

We did? This looks like a pretty new thread to me.

nb> Now this is time to take some action....
nb> Let's meet somewhere and try to find sokution of this
nb> asap....Let's go and meet this college and give them
nb> idea of use of OPEN SOURCE - Linux OS...

Yeah... I'll just jump on a bus here in Chicago, Illinois, USA, and
get off in Mumbai, India, in front of the university.

On second though, maybe I'll just stay where I'm at, and stick to
discussing things, since this is, after all, a 'discussion group'.

It is worth mentioning that 'Open Source' is not limited to 'Linux
OS'... there are a lot of Open Source apps that have been ported to
other operating systems... *nix of every flavour, DOS, Windows, Mac,
etc.

Open Source has to do with a lot more than computer operating systems,
in my opinion. It looks to me as if it will wind up being the basis
for a workable 'intellectual property rights' model, for the 21st
century, and will wind up, in one form or another, wind up replacing
the mostly-broken copyright laws that are now in existence, for things
like books, movies, music, etc., in addition to binaries that have
traditional source code.

nb> then only they will come to know about it....

nb> No use with sharing thoughts offline...Let's do some
nb> action....

nb> thanks
nb> regards....Naresh (Group Moderator - FutureOS_Linux)

I went and took a look at your FutureOS_Linux group, and it has been
on-line for a year, and only has around 30 messages posted to it.

I think you are going about the business of trying to drum up
membership in the wrong way... going around to other lists, like this
one, and soliciting members, without the list owner's permission.

It seems very rude to me...as if you were invited to a party at this
person's house, and you went, and then you started telling all the
people at the party, 'hey, this is a boring party, come on over to my
house everyone, and we will have a better party over there.'

If I wanted to attract members from this list, to a list that I was
starting up, here is how I would do it.

First, I would become an expert at what I was talking about. Then, I
would join this list, and I would contribute my knowledge to this list
regularly, for at least a year, so that I had a good, solid reputation
with the users, as a fellow who knew his business.

Then I would ask the list owner if it was Ok for me to post an ad for
my new group, assuring him/her, that I was not abandoning this group,
but just starting another group of my own, with a more specialised
focus, like "LINUX - KERNEL Module Programming", which happens to be
the stated focus of your FutureOS_Linux group, and which does not
conflict with the focus of a 'Linux_Newbies' group.

If I did this, it would take me a year, but my chances of actually
building a respectable group would be better than my chances would be
if I did what you are doing, and your group has already been up, for a
full year.

You might want to consider rethinking your strategy.


-wittig
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weblog: http://robertcwittig.blogspot.com/
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#19823 From: Digital Brahman <digital_brahman@...>
Date: Fri Jun 17, 2005 9:26 am
Subject: Re: Instalacion de programas
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--- Joan Leach <jleach728@...> wrote:

> --- SauL Mena Avila <saul_hood@...> wrote:
>
> > I'd like to know if for example I wanto to install
> > the
> > realplayer 8 but I have already installed the
> > realplayer 7, do I have to uninstall the
> > realplayer7?
> > And if it is like that, how do I achieve it?
> >
> Hi,
>
> You should say which distro you are using as the
> instructions might be different.
>
> Joan

Hey,

I agree. The instructions are usually differnet for
versions of REal Player (and most other packages in
Linux).

But usually if you have an installable .bin (binary
file) the installation is as simple as running that
file alone.

Uninstalling on the other hand is sometimes difficult.
It could mean just deleting the direcrtory from the
/bin (or other parent folder), or it colud mean using
YaST on Suse, or alternatively an rpm -u on RedHat

Digital.

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#19824 From: "spederiva" <spederiva@...>
Date: Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:07 am
Subject: Installing a network card
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Installing a network card

HI. I'm trying without success to install a network card, model
Realtek RTL8139.

My linux, Mepis (Kernel 2.4.2), cann't install it when it is loading

What I need to do in order to install my network card?

Thank you very much for your help

#19825 From: Digital Brahman <digital_brahman@...>
Date: Fri Jun 17, 2005 3:47 pm
Subject: Hi again
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Hey Joan and Naresh and Robert,

Well, after that last post by Robert for Naresh I
agree fully with the statement Robert makes on his
website, for those who have not visited it yet - it
goes like this :

"I'm pretty opinionated. Fortunately, people pay me
for my opinions." - Robert

No offense Robert, but I enjoy the way you
meticulously  reprint the previous emails line's (as
proof of fact) before actaully making a comment. It's
great to see!!

Anyways, great to see discussions on a discussion
group, usually it's quiet on most groups. I have
started with a Wrox Press Book - "Beginning Shell
Programming". It's pretty good, but I actually wanted
some recommendations on books relating to DOS and
Windows Scripting. If you could recommend sites for
examples, I would appreciate it.

Also, I was wondering how most people got started on
Linux. You know- I really can't afford Windows so I
got Linux from a friend.

How did other group members start out?

Regards.

Digital Brahman



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#19826 From: Michael Kjorling <michael@...>
Date: Sun Jun 19, 2005 1:40 pm
Subject: Re: Installing a network card
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On 2005-06-19 11:07 -0000, spederiva@... wrote:
> What I need to do in order to install my network card?

You need to compile rtl8139 support, either as a module or into the
kernel. The '8139 is an extremely common Ethernet chipset so I'm
surprised that Mepis apparently doesn't support it out of the box, but
2.4.2 is getting rather old now anyway so you may want to upgrade no
matter what.

Once you have the driver loaded, just bring the network card up and
assign an address to it, either using ifconfig or by some other means.

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#19827 From: Robert C Wittig <wittig@...>
Date: Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:09 pm
Subject: Re: Hi again
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Hello Digital,

Friday, June 17, 2005, 10:47:43 AM, you wrote:

DB> Hey Joan and Naresh and Robert,

DB> Well, after that last post by Robert for Naresh I
DB> agree fully with the statement Robert makes on his
DB> website, for those who have not visited it yet - it
DB> goes like this :

DB> "I'm pretty opinionated. Fortunately, people pay me
DB> for my opinions." - Robert

The greatest danger a person faces, once they convince people to
actually pay them for their opinions, is that they might become afraid
of saying "I don't know"... when they don't know, and "I'm not sure",
when they are not sure.<g>

Yep... people sometimes pay me for my opinion.
Nope... I don't have all the answers.
Thank, the God of your choosing, for Google.<g>

DB> No offense Robert, but I enjoy the way you
DB> meticulously  reprint the previous emails line's (as
DB> proof of fact) before actaully making a comment. It's
DB> great to see!!

No offence taken.

DB> Anyways, great to see discussions on a discussion
DB> group, usually it's quiet on most groups. I have
DB> started with a Wrox Press Book - "Beginning Shell
DB> Programming". It's pretty good, but I actually wanted
DB> some recommendations on books relating to DOS and
DB> Windows Scripting. If you could recommend sites for
DB> examples, I would appreciate it.

I have a Wrox Press book titled 'Beginning Linux Programming', with a
picture of Richard Stones and Neil Matthews on the red cover... might
be part of a series. I also have 'UNIX Shells by Example' by Ellie
Quigley. UNIX Power Tools, by O'Reilly and others is also very good,
in my opinion.

DB> Also, I was wondering how most people got started on
DB> Linux. You know- I really can't afford Windows so I
DB> got Linux from a friend.

DB> How did other group members start out?

First, I just installed a Linux partition, and tried leaning commands.
I didn't really take off with Linux until I got an old junker computer
someone threw out, and installed Linux Red Hat 7 on it, and got it
connected to the Internet, with a dial-up account.

Because I could surf the net, I was a LOT more inclined to use the
machine, and because it did not have critical data on it, I was not
afraid to experiment, and risk wrecking the install, and losing
valuable data.

Then I just joined a few lists, like this one, and its parent list
'linux', and began to read, read, read, and occasionally ask
questions.

I still feel like a newbie, because Linux is such a HUGE subject, that
it could not, in my opinion, be mastered in a single lifetime.

Now, I am actually using Linux and FreeBSD in critical business
applications, so I am pretty conservative... I have a paid
subscription to Red Hat Network, so I can make sure that have all my
application updates done in a timely manner, with a minimal amount of
risk to computer security, and data.

I know the Debian crowd will probably laugh at me, but that is Ok...
Red Hat Enterprise is a great set of 'training wheels', for someone
like myself, who isn't yet sharp enough to be a real Master of the
System... but who must be 'master of the system', because there is
no-one else to do the job for him.

When I really, really, really know what I am doing... I will probably
not need the 'training wheels'.

In the mean time, I am learning as fast as I can.


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