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#8659 From: "thecrazedmonster" <thecrazedmonster@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2002 1:41 pm
Subject: Viewer
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Anyone know where i can get a Viewer for file types:

rpm and tar.gz

I'm running Red Hat 7.2 under the gnome desktop and it didnt come with
one that i know of.

#8660 From: "Scott Robbins" <scottro@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2002 2:44 pm
Subject: Re: Viewer
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----- Original Message -----
From: "thecrazedmonster" <thecrazedmonster@...>
To: <LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 8:41 AM
Subject: [despammed] [LINUX_Newbies] Viewer


> Anyone know where i can get a Viewer for file types:
>
> rpm and tar.gz
>
> I'm running Red Hat 7.2 under the gnome desktop and it didnt come with
> one that i know of.

Hrm--are you sure that you want to view them?  Both are compressed files,
used to install programs and the like--there are various command line
options (and I'm drawing a total blank) to enable you to know what files are
included in them without decompressing them--there is probably some sort of
package manager with Gnome that will also do so.

Usually, if, say, it was a book in a tar.gz format, you would first
decompress it, then view it.

HTH, but I may have totally misunderstood your question
Scott

#8661 From: Jeff <thecrazedmonster@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2002 2:52 pm
Subject: Re: Viewer
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Scott Robbins wrote:

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "thecrazedmonster" <thecrazedmonster@...>
> To: <LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 8:41 AM
> Subject: [despammed] [LINUX_Newbies] Viewer
>
>
> > Anyone know where i can get a Viewer for file types:
> >
> > rpm and tar.gz
> >
> > I'm running Red Hat 7.2 under the gnome desktop and it didnt come
> with
> > one that i know of.
>
> Hrm--are you sure that you want to view them?  Both are compressed
> files,
> used to install programs and the like--there are various command line
> options (and I'm drawing a total blank) to enable you to know what
> files are
> included in them without decompressing them--there is probably some
> sort of
> package manager with Gnome that will also do so.
>
> Usually, if, say, it was a book in a tar.gz format, you would first
> decompress it, then view it.
>
> HTH, but I may have totally misunderstood your question
> Scott
>
>
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what i want to do is to acutually install them, but when i double-click
on them i get a messager that says there is no viewer installed capable
of viewing


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#8662 From: "Peter Brayman" <peteb@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2002 3:01 pm
Subject: RE: Viewer
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That's the easy part

  tar -xzvf <filename>  will extract the file, list it's contents in the
process
   Omit the z if you only have .tar file , the z is for GZip'd files  (.gz)

   rpm -i <filename>  will install an rpm

(Do these from a shell prompt)

Pete



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Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 9:52 AM
To: LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Viewer


Scott Robbins wrote:

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "thecrazedmonster" <thecrazedmonster@...>
> To: <LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 8:41 AM
> Subject: [despammed] [LINUX_Newbies] Viewer
>
>
> > Anyone know where i can get a Viewer for file types:
> >
> > rpm and tar.gz
> >
> > I'm running Red Hat 7.2 under the gnome desktop and it didnt come
> with
> > one that i know of.
>
> Hrm--are you sure that you want to view them?  Both are compressed
> files,
> used to install programs and the like--there are various command line
> options (and I'm drawing a total blank) to enable you to know what
> files are
> included in them without decompressing them--there is probably some
> sort of
> package manager with Gnome that will also do so.
>
> Usually, if, say, it was a book in a tar.gz format, you would first
> decompress it, then view it.
>
> HTH, but I may have totally misunderstood your question
> Scott
>
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what i want to do is to acutually install them, but when i double-click
on them i get a messager that says there is no viewer installed capable
of viewing


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#8663 From: Jeff <thecrazedmonster@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2002 3:14 pm
Subject: Re: Viewer
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Thank you fer your help.  but i have another question to ask and im sure
i will have many more to come.

I need drivers fer a Canon BJC-2100 bubble jet printer


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#8664 From: "Peter Brayman" <peteb@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2002 3:55 pm
Subject: RE: Viewer
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You might try this page:
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/printers.html

While I don't see the 2100 listed,, a quick newsgroup search  found someone
who is claiming success using the BJC-600 driver, so you might try that.




Thank you fer your help.  but i have another question to ask and im sure
i will have many more to come.

I need drivers fer a Canon BJC-2100 bubble jet printer

#8665 From: Jeff <thecrazedmonster@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2002 4:17 pm
Subject: Re: Viewer
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Peter Brayman wrote:

>
> You might try this page:
> http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/printers.html
>
> While I don't see the 2100 listed,, a quick newsgroup search  found
> someone
> who is claiming success using the BJC-600 driver, so you might try
> that.
>
>
>
>
> Thank you fer your help.  but i have another question to ask and im
> sure
> i will have many more to come.
>
> I need drivers fer a Canon BJC-2100 bubble jet printer
>
>
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i have the one i want but its a .src.rpm file  also i need to know how
to install a theme i have it gziped and un-ziped


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#8666 From: "Peter Brayman" <peteb@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2002 4:28 pm
Subject: RE: Viewer
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I *beleive* you use rpm --build <filename> for src RPM's, I don't do much
with RPM's so I can't be positive, someone else may chime in on that.

  What window manager are you trying to install the themes for?


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Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:18 AM
To: LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Viewer


Peter Brayman wrote:

>
> You might try this page:
> http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/printers.html
>
> While I don't see the 2100 listed,, a quick newsgroup search  found
> someone
> who is claiming success using the BJC-600 driver, so you might try
> that.
>
>
>
>
> Thank you fer your help.  but i have another question to ask and im
> sure
> i will have many more to come.
>
> I need drivers fer a Canon BJC-2100 bubble jet printer
>
>
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i have the one i want but its a .src.rpm file  also i need to know how
to install a theme i have it gziped and un-ziped


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#8667 From: Jeff <thecrazedmonster@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2002 4:33 pm
Subject: Re: Viewer
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all themes will be fer gnome running under red hat 7.2

Peter Brayman wrote:

>  I *beleive* you use rpm --build <filename> for src RPM's, I don't do
> much
> with RPM's so I can't be positive, someone else may chime in on that.
>
> What window manager are you trying to install the themes for?
>


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#8668 From: vishal shah <v_p_shah@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2002 6:46 pm
Subject: is AMD athlon 4 not good for linux
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hi
i am planning on buying a notebook(laptop).
i dont know what to buy. i will have linux installed
on it.
should i go for athlon 1 Ghz or P3 1 Ghz.
i heard that athlon doesnt go well with linux. is this
true? if so why..?
plz reply fast. since i have to make this decisoin
soon.

vishal

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#8669 From: Jim George <jim.george@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2002 6:51 pm
Subject: New Partition
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Folks,

	 thanks to re-jigging my swap space I now have a lovely big 1.5g hole in
my drive that I would like to turn into 2 mountable partions (gnome and
local to be re-mounted under /opt and /usr respectively).

	 I've looked at using cfdisk but have the following issues/questions.

	 1) When I create a new partition it automatically sets the 'type' to
Linux and I'm unable to change it to linux ext2?
	 2) As I create 2 more partitions all the subsequent partitions are
going to increase in number by 2 (obviously). Can I simply cater for
this by amending /etc/fstab before a reboot or is it more complex than
that?
	 3) What is the sequence of events to move /opt/gnome (on the same
partition) to /opt/gnome on the new?  Do I move /opt/gnome to
/opt/gnome-temp then mkdir /opt/gnome, mount /dev/hda? /opt/gnome, mv
/opt/gnome-temp /opt/gnome?

	 Any help gratefully received as I need to make this change soon before
I lose any more disk space:)

Thanks,

Jim

#8670 From: Jeff <thecrazedmonster@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2002 6:51 pm
Subject: Re: is AMD athlon 4 not good for linux
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im running linux on the AMD Athlon XP 1500+ and have no problems,
besides the fact that im new and dont really know what im doing, it all
runs great

vishal shah wrote:

>  hi
> i am planning on buying a notebook(laptop).
> i dont know what to buy. i will have linux installed
> on it.
> should i go for athlon 1 Ghz or P3 1 Ghz.
> i heard that athlon doesnt go well with linux. is this
> true? if so why..?
> plz reply fast. since i have to make this decisoin
> soon.
>
> vishal
>
> _____________________________________
>
>


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#8671 From: Jim George <jim.george@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2002 6:53 pm
Subject: Child Protection
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My daughter is now spending a lot of time on the net and most of that
time on her own.

I want to 'protect' her from the more seamy side of life that I'm used
to ;).

Can anyone point me at a application (or whatever) that will filter
sites with swear words etc.?  Would squid be the hombre?

TIA,

Jim

#8672 From: Tim Currell <timcurrell@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2002 8:12 pm
Subject: Re: Pesky problem
timcurrell
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Here's one that perhaps somebody can answer for me, and I doubt I'm the
only one with this inquiry.

How do you put a file on a floppy from a Windoze machine that will be
portable to your Linux box?  So far I've struck out.  Can it be done?
Here's hoping...  Thanks gang!

Tim C.

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> For a PPP connection, try eznet, from -
> http://www.hwaci.com/sw/eznet/eznet.html
>
> It really is e-z!
> You even get a choice of using the CLI (type `eznet up' to connect
> and
> `eznet down' to hang up), or the xeznet GUI (just click a button).
> Works
> with CHAP or PAP, and has built-in debugging in case you need it (I
> didn't).
>
> Bob


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#8673 From: Godwin Stewart <gstewart@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2002 9:19 pm
Subject: Re: Pesky problem
grschinon
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 12:12:05 -0800 (PST), Tim Currell <timcurrell@...>
wrote to LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com:

> How do you put a file on a floppy from a Windoze machine that will be
> portable to your Linux box?  So far I've struck out.  Can it be done?
> Here's hoping...  Thanks gang!

Easy.

Just use your diskette as usual in Windows. When you bring it over to your
linux box, mount it this way (assuming /mnt/floppy is the ususal mount point
for your floppy drive):

# mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy

You can now cd to /mnt/floppy.

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#8674 From: Raquel Rice <raquel@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2002 9:57 pm
Subject: Re: Pesky problem
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 22:19:11 +0100
Godwin Stewart Godwin Stewart <gstewart@...> wrote:

> On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 12:12:05 -0800 (PST), Tim Currell
> <timcurrell@...>
> wrote to LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com:
>
> > How do you put a file on a floppy from a Windoze machine that
> will be
> > portable to your Linux box?  So far I've struck out.  Can it be
> done?
> > Here's hoping...  Thanks gang!
>
> Easy.
>
> Just use your diskette as usual in Windows. When you bring it over
> to your
> linux box, mount it this way (assuming /mnt/floppy is the ususal
> mount point
> for your floppy drive):
>
> # mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
>
> You can now cd to /mnt/floppy.

OR

from a terminal cd to where you want the files copied and:
	 # mcopy a:

That is if you have "mtools" installed on your machine.

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#8675 From: skylinux <skylinux@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2002 10:10 pm
Subject: Re: is AMD athlon 4 not good for linux
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On 1 Feb 2002, vishal shah (v_p_shah@...) wrote:

> hi
> i am planning on buying a notebook(laptop).
> i dont know what to buy. i will have linux installed
> on it.
> should i go for athlon 1 Ghz or P3 1 Ghz.
> i heard that athlon doesnt go well with linux. is this
> true? if so why..?
> plz reply fast. since i have to make this decisoin
> soon.
> vishal

The problem is not Linux, it's the chip. It has a little design flaw and might
crash when you play 3D games with an AGP card. AMD released a fix and Microsoft
included the fix in one of there Service packs without telling anybody (in this
case blame goes to AMD for not telling us). Now that the Linux community knows
about it there is a fix for it too. I'm sure that the upcoming kernel has the
fix build in.
(From CHANGELOG 2.4.18)
- - Add workarounds for AMD Elan processors(Robert Schwebel)

The new kernel should be released soon. If you are looking for a fix for your
current kernel search on deja.com for AMD Linux fix
There is a little option you put into lilo.conf and everything is fine.

My suggestion, go with AMD great chip and kicks some serious butt!!!!

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#8676 From: Tim Currell <timcurrell@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2002 10:14 pm
Subject: Re: Pesky problem
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Oboyoboyoboyoboyoboyoboyoboy...

Can't wait to get home and try these!  I joined this list three days
ago and already I have made more progress than I have the last two
months!  You guys (and gals) ROCK!!!

I'll let you know how it goes...

Tim C.

--- Raquel Rice <raquel@...> wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 22:19:11 +0100
> Godwin Stewart Godwin Stewart <gstewart@...> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 12:12:05 -0800 (PST), Tim Currell
> > <timcurrell@...>
> > wrote to LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com:
> >
> > > How do you put a file on a floppy from a Windoze machine that
> > will be
> > > portable to your Linux box?  So far I've struck out.  Can it be
> > done?
> > > Here's hoping...  Thanks gang!
> >
> > Easy.
> >
> > Just use your diskette as usual in Windows. When you bring it over
> > to your
> > linux box, mount it this way (assuming /mnt/floppy is the ususal
> > mount point
> > for your floppy drive):
> >
> > # mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
> >
> > You can now cd to /mnt/floppy.
>
> OR
>
> from a terminal cd to where you want the files copied and:
>  # mcopy a:
>
> That is if you have "mtools" installed on your machine.
>
> --
> Raquel
> ============================================================
> To be somebody, a woman does not have to be more like a man, but has
> to be more of a woman.
>   --Dr. Sally E. Shaywitz


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#8677 From: Godwin Stewart <gstewart@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2002 10:35 pm
Subject: Re: Pesky problem
grschinon
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 13:57:26 -0800, Raquel Rice <raquel@...> wrote
to LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com:

>
> OR
>
> from a terminal cd to where you want the files copied and:
>  # mcopy a:
>
> That is if you have "mtools" installed on your machine.

The mtools don't recognise long filenames and basically limit you to the old
8.3 DOS filename format. Mounting the floppy as a vfat filesystem does.

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#8678 From: Godwin Stewart <gstewart@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2002 10:39 pm
Subject: Re: Pesky problem
grschinon
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 23:35:26 +0100, Godwin Stewart <gstewart@...>
wrote to LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com:

> The mtools don't recognise long filenames and basically limit you to the
> old 8.3 DOS filename format. Mounting the floppy as a vfat filesystem
> does.

Please ignore that. I should read the screen output closer before sending
things off. My (lame) excuse is that it's late over here :)

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#8679 From: "Meph Istopheles" <Meph@...>
Date: Sat Feb 2, 2002 12:55 am
Subject: Tale of woe (long)
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Hey,

   As some of you know, I'd left Windows a few years ago for the
greener pastures of Linux.  Back then, RH 5.0 was the best there
was.  I liked it -- in spite of the fact I could only get 16-bit
colour.  I was very pleased when RH released 6.0.  This was a
world of wonder.

   Time passed, & I wanted more than RH 6.0 could offer.  I
thought I'd try Mandrake 7.2.  While I was very pleased with all
the hardware support, I was very displeased with the simplicity
of mdk's idea of cli.  If something worked at all, it didn't have
the features I'd grown accustomed to in RH.  So, though mdk had a
better gui & hardware support, I returned to RH 6.0 while waiting
their 7.2 release.

   With the release of 7.2, RH got some gui things right -- but
lost some other things.  More & more, I'd found that rpm's were
offering fewer & fewer features.  But I had my cd burner.  I'd
actually been able to copy the files I'd backed up from a Windows
partition to my Linux partition.  But, as you might guess,
something (a bad Ximian install) went wrong.  I had to reinstall.

   That wasn't all -- what caused the problem had also corrupted
my Windows partiton.  I couldn't boot into either OS.  So, I
thought that since I'd had RH 7.1 running on another box pretty
well, I'd try it on mine.  That too crapped out, & I'd gone back
to 7.2.

   Well, my dissatisfaction with RH coders took me to the brink.
I was ready to leap off the edge, never to return to the 'puter
world again -- it's the coders (the majority of them -- not all,
as there really ~are~ exceptions to every rule) who've ruined it
for me.  They're just too lazy to write all the code from the
source.  Where was I to turn?

   After tinking about it a while, I'd decided to make the leap to
FreeBSD.  I'd fully intened to do so eventually -- even bofore
I'd left Windows.  The time had come.

   First install, as expected, was a little confusing -- after
all, I'd grown comfortable with the likes of RH & mdk.  But I'm
pretty sure I'd picked all that I had to for a decent install.
Little did I know, this wasn't to be.

   The install itself is pretty straight forward.  In compiling
the kernel, you actually have to remove certain modules instead
of choosing them, otherwise your install craps out, & you have to
start over.  Once I'd removed the right modules, I'd found that
under Multimedia (sound card) there was nothing.  For the life of
me, I couldn't find any way to tell the system that I had a sound
card fully supportd -- or so the hardware compatibility list
implies.

   Anyway, figuring I could fix it later, I'd continued on.  It's
rather more time consuming going through everything we're all
used to with RH -- assuming things are found, & the ports (which
aren't actually installed, you just get some scripts allowing you
to download the apps) took quite a while to go through.  But then
the format of the hard drive & install of packages begins, & you
think you're fine.

   Then you notice that the php4 install just fails.  You're only
option is an OK button.  Alright.  Get that later too.  Moving
on....  Then, many, many ports just lag.  Anywhere from two to
ten minutes will go by with nothing on the blank, grey screen
between installing of one or a few port scripts.  I understand
this is normal behaviour.  If so, I ~really~ wonder about that.
Will I bother to build that 486MHz or or low-end Pentium box as a
server for fbsd in future as I'd like?  Maybe not.

   But the fun doesn't stop there.  After an all day install fest,
I boot up to find that neither of the two users I'd created
exist.  Fortunately, root did.  Am I surprised?  Uh-huh.

   Well, Scott & I were working on getting a script set up to
download the current kernel, so I could compile sound in.  While
doing that, I'd found that not only were some things not
installed, I'd broken other things in an attempt to correct them.
Guess what?  I got to reinstall.

   After another day long install, I was up & running again.
What's this?  I'd set my single user up with bash & can't log in
because, as the error was telling me, /usr/bash did not exist.
Where is bash?  Why in /usr/local/bash where it's supposed to be
in fbsd.  So, why would anything in fbsd have the wrong path?
I'd not entered a path when I told the installer that the user
should be set up with bash.  My fault?  Maybe.  But, again, what
in fbsd would be looking in /usr when it, as well as most any
user app, are in /usr/local?

   Anyway, I got fed up trying to figure that one out, breaking
things & fixing them & decided it was too early for me to fool
with fbsd.

   I tried to install RH 7.2, but it bailed out (as it does on
another 'puter I have here & had on a couple of occasions before)
three times just as it went to format the hard drive.  I tried
both a Dell & a CDRom.Com cd of RH 6.0, but they both bailed at
different times.  Couldn't find my RH 6.2 or disk one (of two) of
RH 7.1, so I installed mdk 7.2.  Install went fine, updating went
fine, & making the boot disk went fine.  But suddenly, postfix
stopped allowing my mail to come through.  I'd made no config
changes -- I'd not even thought about it when I'd set up pine &
fetchmail.  The mail downloaded for a while, & then stopped.  I
edited the postfix.cf with all the correct info (I've a fair
amount of experience with both postfix & sendmail), restarted
postfix, but no good.

   I thought I'd restart, as that often corrects oddities in RH &
mdk.  Well, the boot fails.  Hmm.  Alright, pop in the boot disk,
& I figure I'll take the time to do away with Aurora & update
lilo, but what's this?  The boot disk fails.  Fuck.

   So, after two wasted days of hellish 'puter nonsense, I'm
posting this tale to those who wanted some idea of what happens
with fbsd from OE in W2k.

   Life sucks.

   Meph

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#8680 From: Andy <andy@...>
Date: Sat Feb 2, 2002 1:45 am
Subject: Linux + Electronics
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Hey Everyone!
I was wondering if anyone has any experience with Linux and robotics. I
think that it would be fun to make a little something, plug it into the
back of my linux box, and then make a program to make something. I don't
really what it does at first, but I think it would be fun. Does anyone
know of any semi-easy, cheap way to do this?

Thanks a lot,

ANdy

P.S.
I feel your pain Meph.

#8681 From: Scott <scottro@...>
Date: Sat Feb 2, 2002 1:55 am
Subject: Re: [despammed] Tale of woe (long)
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On 16:55 2002/02/01 -0800, Meph Istopheles wrote
>   Hey,
>
>   As some of you know, I'd left Windows a few years ago for the
>greener pastures of Linux.  Back then, RH 5.0 was the best there
>was.  I liked it -- in spite of the fact I could only get 16-bit
>colour.  I was very pleased when RH released 6.0.  This was a
>world of wonder.


<much grumbling about FreeBSD snipped>

>   So, after two wasted days of hellish 'puter nonsense, I'm
>posting this tale to those who wanted some idea of what happens
>with fbsd from OE in W2k.
>
>   Life sucks.


Well, the Buddha said "All life is suffering" though he probably didn't
write it in English, so, y'know dude, get used to it.  Your phrasing is
less poetic, however.

Seriously---
The newer distros demand better hardware--I'm sure there are Linux distros
around that will run on a 486--on the other hand, a lot of them now say,
don't bother on anything less than i686.
FreeBSD--it's more sensitive to bad hardware, apparently.  Possibly because
it really is designed as server, more than desktop software, and that's
what they concentrate on improving--I'm a bit ticked at them at this
instant, because they haven't fixed a bug that has been known about since
4.3 (they're up to 4.5) having to do with Xfree 4 and Asus MB's, but...
The nice thing about it, and Gentoo Linux, a new distro that's a bit buggy
still, but getting there, is the ports--you go to get say, Sylpheed, and it
realizes that you need GTK and it gets that too.

However, this week I went to the Linux World Expo.  I realized that it
really is becoming mainstream with HP and IBM putting out some big machines
running it--according to someone or other there, 38 percent of new servers
are running Linux--RH is coming out with a lot of talk about TOC (total
cost of ownership) which used to be the province of MS.

It made me feel, in many ways, that I should stop being a distro slut, and
probably concentrate on RH for the moment, as commercially, that is, as a
system that will be put into corporate networks, it might be the next big
thing.  Does this mean it'll be Linux's answer to MS?   I don't know but
I'm too old and tired to get too much into advocacy---So, I fired up my RH
distro that I hadn't played with in weeks, and made sure that I could still
quickly set up a web, ftp and mail server.

Meph could learn FreeBSD relatively quickly--it's similar enough, even to
RH, so that one can figure it out without much trouble, assuming that
you're used to configuring RH without GUI tools.  (That is NOT a putdown of
GUI tools--sometimes, they are more convenient, but if you touch type and
have your own habits, sometimes they're not.)  He made a goof on his sound
card, but that was because he didn't believe me.  :)

I don't know what my point is--all O/S's have their good and bad
side.  Meph's just in a grouchy mood.

It was somewhat sad how, at LinuxWorld, some of the BSDers and Linuxers got
in rather hostile arguments.   (No, no physical fights).  I don't think
that liking one means you have to hate the other--we all have our pet likes
and dislikes.  I like aspects of BSD---other things about it aggravate
me.  AFAIK, they don't have any lists like this one where I can post, I
don't feel like spending an hour figuring this out, anyone know the answer?

Scott

#8682 From: Cameron Simpson <cs@...>
Date: Sat Feb 2, 2002 2:30 am
Subject: Re: Child Protection
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On 18:53 01 Feb 2002, Jim George <jim.george@...> wrote:
| My daughter is now spending a lot of time on the net and most of that
| time on her own.
| I want to 'protect' her from the more seamy side of life that I'm used
| to ;).
|
| Can anyone point me at a application (or whatever) that will filter
| sites with swear words etc.?  Would squid be the hombre?

Squid is the web proxy tool you will need.
But on its own it's purely a proxy.
You also want to check out a content filter such as DansGuardian:

	 http://freshmeat.net/projects/dansguardian/

and/or SquidGuard:

	 http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=squidGuard§ion=projects&x=0&y=0

Cheers,
--
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	 - R.L. Stevenson

#8683 From: dssyenon <dssyenon@...>
Date: Sat Feb 2, 2002 3:03 am
Subject: Re: Linux + Electronics
dss_y
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Andy wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone has any experience with Linux and robotics. I
> think that it would be fun to make a little something, plug it into the
> back of my linux box, and then make a program to make something.

Altho it's not robotics, search www.linuxdoc.org for Coffee Howto.  Yes,
linux will make coffee!

$ echo "espresso" > /dev/coffee

#8684 From: Andy <andy@...>
Date: Sat Feb 2, 2002 2:57 am
Subject: My computer is screwed!!!
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I have mandarke 8.1 installed and I have had it installed for the past,
maybe 9 months. About 2 weeks ago, my computer hit the disk really
really hard, it was making all of those hard drive sounds that it makes
when you are running two different programs from each console, but I
couldn't do anything. I could type my name at the login (non-graphical)
and then I would hit enter and nothing would happen. I left it like that
for 24 hours, then pressed the power button twice. Once to turn it of,
and once to turn it back on. Everything was fine, until about 3 days
later, it did it again. It did it regularly about every 20 hours from
then on and then it stopped doing regularly two days ago. Now it will
just do it randomly. My box is set up as a webserver and email server so
this is really bad because no foreign connections can be made while it
is in this state. Any suggestions???

Thanks a lot,
ANdy

#8685 From: "Brian L. Johnson" <blj8@...>
Date: Sat Feb 2, 2002 3:48 am
Subject: Re: My computer is screwed!!!
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Sounds like your hard drive is going out. For various reasons, most
Linux distros ship by default without DMA turned on, so if a HD hangs
during I/O, it'll hang up everything...

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On Feb 1, Andy did the following thing upon the keyboard:

>I have mandarke 8.1 installed and I have had it installed for the past,
>maybe 9 months. About 2 weeks ago, my computer hit the disk really
>really hard, it was making all of those hard drive sounds that it makes
>when you are running two different programs from each console, but I
>couldn't do anything. I could type my name at the login (non-graphical)
>and then I would hit enter and nothing would happen. I left it like that
>for 24 hours, then pressed the power button twice. Once to turn it of,
>and once to turn it back on. Everything was fine, until about 3 days
>later, it did it again. It did it regularly about every 20 hours from
>then on and then it stopped doing regularly two days ago. Now it will
>just do it randomly. My box is set up as a webserver and email server so
>this is really bad because no foreign connections can be made while it
>is in this state. Any suggestions???

#8686 From: "sajpainel" <sajanpainel@...>
Date: Sat Feb 2, 2002 6:15 am
Subject: please help me to install sound card on my toshiba (780cdm techra)
sajpainel
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I am very new to linux .
i installed redhat 7.1 to my laptop which have a yamaha soundcard .
but it doesn't working at all.
midi sound have no problem ,but other sounds won't get clear.
while connecting to net, a message appears  as 'no carrier',
what is it?


As a music lover i cannot withstand such a problem ,

#8687 From: Satish Lohar <lsatish@...>
Date: Sat Feb 2, 2002 6:27 am
Subject: Re: please help me to install sound card on my toshiba (780cdm techra)
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well,
Try this command
/sbin/sndconfig
This will solve u r sound problem, It will detect the sound card.

Regards,
Satish
  --- sajpainel <sajanpainel@...> wrote: > I am very new to linux .
> i installed redhat 7.1 to my laptop which have a yamaha soundcard .
> but it doesn't working at all.
> midi sound have no problem ,but other sounds won't get clear.
> while connecting to net, a message appears  as 'no carrier',
> what is it?
>
>
> As a music lover i cannot withstand such a problem ,
>
>

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#8688 From: Jim George <jim.george@...>
Date: Sat Feb 2, 2002 7:03 am
Subject: Re: Re: Child Protection
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Thanks very much Cameron

Jim
On Sat, 2002-02-02 at 02:30, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> On 18:53 01 Feb 2002, Jim George <jim.george@...> wrote:
> | My daughter is now spending a lot of time on the net and most of that
> | time on her own.
> | I want to 'protect' her from the more seamy side of life that I'm used
> | to ;).
> |
> | Can anyone point me at a application (or whatever) that will filter
> | sites with swear words etc.?  Would squid be the hombre?
>
> Squid is the web proxy tool you will need.
> But on its own it's purely a proxy.
> You also want to check out a content filter such as DansGuardian:
>
>  http://freshmeat.net/projects/dansguardian/
>
> and/or SquidGuard:
>
>  http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=squidGuard§ion=projects&x=0&y=0
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Cameron Simpson, DoD#743        cs@...    http://www.zip.com.au/~cs/
>
> Marriage is a sort of special friendship recognised by the police.
>  - R.L. Stevenson
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