Hey guys

Newbee here; got my 2308 bout a week ago.  Thursday I tried to link to
wunderground.com; couldn’t figure out how.  Sent an email to
wunderground help; they said to join wuhu_software_group here on yahoo;
download their software & it should work.  It don’t.  :-(  When the
software tries to upload it says on the log that the relative pressure
is 80.64 InHg & aborts the entire upload.  On my heavy weather screen on
the cptr it gives a normal looking reading in absolute pressure of
29.52.  Tried changing this setting to absolute but that doesn’t change
anything on the attempted upload to wunderground.

Anyone got any suggestions?  I’m open to using other software if that’s
a viable option; just want to be able to get the data uploading

Thanks!!

Lew Best near Waco, TX


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What software are you using?

Lew Best wrote:
> Hey guys
>
> Newbee here; got my 2308 bout a week ago.  Thursday I tried to link to
> wunderground.com; couldn’t figure out how.  Sent an email to
> wunderground help; they said to join wuhu_software_group here on yahoo;
> download their software & it should work.  It don’t.  :-(  When the
> software tries to upload it says on the log that the relative pressure
> is 80.64 InHg & aborts the entire upload.  On my heavy weather screen on
> the cptr it gives a normal looking reading in absolute pressure of
> 29.52.  Tried changing this setting to absolute but that doesn’t change
> anything on the attempted upload to wunderground.
>
> Anyone got any suggestions?  I’m open to using other software if that’s
> a viable option; just want to be able to get the data uploading
>
> Thanks!!
>
> Lew Best near Waco, TX
>
>
>

Hi Lew...I use Weather Display  to send my data to Wunderground..pretty easy and
painless

http://www.weather-display.com

Doug

http://www.berwickweather.com

Lew Best <bee_keeper@...> wrote: Hey guys

Newbee here; got my 2308 bout a week ago.  Thursday I tried to link to
wunderground.com; couldn’t figure out how.  Sent an email to
wunderground help; they said to join wuhu_software_group here on yahoo;
download their software & it should work.  It don’t.  :-(  When the
software tries to upload it says on the log that the relative pressure
is 80.64 InHg & aborts the entire upload.  On my heavy weather screen on
the cptr it gives a normal looking reading in absolute pressure of
29.52.  Tried changing this setting to absolute but that doesn’t change
anything on the attempted upload to wunderground.

Anyone got any suggestions?  I’m open to using other software if that’s
a viable option; just want to be able to get the data uploading

Thanks!!

Lew Best near Waco, TX


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I also use Weather Display and strongly second Doug's comments. It cost
$70 now (lifetime updates are free) but it is worth every penny of it.
You can try it for free for 30 days.

Bill

Doug Augelli wrote:

>Hi Lew...I use Weather Display  to send my data to Wunderground..pretty easy
and painless
>
>http://www.weather-display.com
>
>Doug
>
>http://www.berwickweather.com
>
>Lew Best <bee_keeper@...> wrote: Hey guys
>
>Newbee here; got my 2308 bout a week ago.  Thursday I tried to link to
>wunderground.com; couldn’t figure out how.  Sent an email to
>wunderground help; they said to join wuhu_software_group here on yahoo;
>download their software & it should work.  It don’t.  :-(  When the
>software tries to upload it says on the log that the relative pressure
>is 80.64 InHg & aborts the entire upload.  On my heavy weather screen on
>the cptr it gives a normal looking reading in absolute pressure of
>29.52.  Tried changing this setting to absolute but that doesn’t change
>anything on the attempted upload to wunderground.
>
>Anyone got any suggestions?  I’m open to using other software if that’s
>a viable option; just want to be able to get the data uploading
>
>Thanks!!
>
>Lew Best near Waco, TX
>
>
>
>

The wuhu software.  Is something else better?  No one on the wuhu group
has figured it out yet.

Lew

-----Original Message-----
From: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dale J.
Chatham
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 7:56 AM
To: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LacrosseWS] new 2308; need help

What software are you using?

Lew Best wrote:
> Hey guys
>
> Newbee here; got my 2308 bout a week ago.  Thursday I tried to link to
> wunderground.com; couldn’t figure out how.  Sent an email to
> wunderground help; they said to join wuhu_software_group here on
yahoo;
> download their software & it should work.  It don’t.  :-(  When the
> software tries to upload it says on the log that the relative pressure
> is 80.64 InHg & aborts the entire upload.  On my heavy weather screen
on
> the cptr it gives a normal looking reading in absolute pressure of
> 29.52.  Tried changing this setting to absolute but that doesn’t
change
> anything on the attempted upload to wunderground.
>
> Anyone got any suggestions?  I’m open to using other software if
that’s
> a viable option; just want to be able to get the data uploading
>
> Thanks!!
>
> Lew Best near Waco, TX
>
>
>






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Thanks!  I'll download the trial & see what it does; just quickly looked
at the home page & it sure looks impressive!

Lew


-----Original Message-----
From: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug
Augelli
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:57 PM
To: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LacrosseWS] new 2308; need help

Hi Lew...I use Weather Display  to send my data to Wunderground..pretty
easy and painless

http://www.weather-display.com

Doug

http://www.berwickweather.com

Lew Best <bee_keeper@...> wrote: Hey guys

Newbee here; got my 2308 bout a week ago.  Thursday I tried to link to
wunderground.com; couldn’t figure out how.  Sent an email to
wunderground help; they said to join wuhu_software_group here on yahoo;
download their software & it should work.  It don’t.  :-(  When the
software tries to upload it says on the log that the relative pressure
is 80.64 InHg & aborts the entire upload.  On my heavy weather screen on
the cptr it gives a normal looking reading in absolute pressure of
29.52.  Tried changing this setting to absolute but that doesn’t change
anything on the attempted upload to wunderground.

Anyone got any suggestions?  I’m open to using other software if that’s
a viable option; just want to be able to get the data uploading

Thanks!!

Lew Best near Waco, TX




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Brian, the author is a great guy...great tech support from him, and others in
the WD forum

Lew Best <bee_keeper@...> wrote: Thanks!  I'll download the trial &
see what it does; just quickly looked
at the home page & it sure looks impressive!

Lew


-----Original Message-----
From: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug
Augelli
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:57 PM
To: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LacrosseWS] new 2308; need help

Hi Lew...I use Weather Display  to send my data to Wunderground..pretty
easy and painless

http://www.weather-display.com

Doug

http://www.berwickweather.com

Lew Best  wrote: Hey guys

Newbee here; got my 2308 bout a week ago.  Thursday I tried to link to
wunderground.com; couldn’t figure out how.  Sent an email to
wunderground help; they said to join wuhu_software_group here on yahoo;
download their software & it should work.  It don’t.  :-(  When the
software tries to upload it says on the log that the relative pressure
is 80.64 InHg & aborts the entire upload.  On my heavy weather screen on
the cptr it gives a normal looking reading in absolute pressure of
29.52.  Tried changing this setting to absolute but that doesn’t change
anything on the attempted upload to wunderground.

Anyone got any suggestions?  I’m open to using other software if that’s
a viable option; just want to be able to get the data uploading

Thanks!!

Lew Best near Waco, TX




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Try www.ambientweather.com as well.

   Regards,

   Ed

Lew Best <bee_keeper@...> wrote:
   Thanks! I'll download the trial & see what it does; just quickly looked
at the home page & it sure looks impressive!

Lew


-----Original Message-----
From: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug
Augelli
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:57 PM
To: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LacrosseWS] new 2308; need help

Hi Lew...I use Weather Display to send my data to Wunderground..pretty
easy and painless

http://www.weather-display.com

Doug

http://www.berwickweather.com

Lew Best wrote: Hey guys

Newbee here; got my 2308 bout a week ago. Thursday I tried to link to
wunderground.com; couldn’t figure out how. Sent an email to
wunderground help; they said to join wuhu_software_group here on yahoo;
download their software & it should work. It don’t. :-( When the
software tries to upload it says on the log that the relative pressure
is 80.64 InHg & aborts the entire upload. On my heavy weather screen on
the cptr it gives a normal looking reading in absolute pressure of
29.52. Tried changing this setting to absolute but that doesn’t change
anything on the attempted upload to wunderground.

Anyone got any suggestions? I’m open to using other software if that’s
a viable option; just want to be able to get the data uploading

Thanks!!

Lew Best near Waco, TX




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Ok; went to weather-display.com; looks like the top 3 downloads work
with XP.  Which one do I want?

Lew


-----Original Message-----
From: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug
Augelli
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 3:05 PM
To: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [LacrosseWS] new 2308; need help

Brian, the author is a great guy...great tech support from him, and
others in the WD forum

Lew Best <bee_keeper@...> wrote: Thanks!  I'll download the
trial & see what it does; just quickly looked
at the home page & it sure looks impressive!

Lew


-----Original Message-----
From: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug
Augelli
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:57 PM
To: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LacrosseWS] new 2308; need help

Hi Lew...I use Weather Display  to send my data to Wunderground..pretty
easy and painless

http://www.weather-display.com

Doug

http://www.berwickweather.com

Lew Best  wrote: Hey guys

Newbee here; got my 2308 bout a week ago.  Thursday I tried to link to
wunderground.com; couldn’t figure out how.  Sent an email to
wunderground help; they said to join wuhu_software_group here on yahoo;
download their software & it should work.  It don’t.  :-(  When the
software tries to upload it says on the log that the relative pressure
is 80.64 InHg & aborts the entire upload.  On my heavy weather screen on
the cptr it gives a normal looking reading in absolute pressure of
29.52.  Tried changing this setting to absolute but that doesn’t change
anything on the attempted upload to wunderground.

Anyone got any suggestions?  I’m open to using other software if that’s
a viable option; just want to be able to get the data uploading

Thanks!!

Lew Best near Waco, TX




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Hi Lew, the top one is the total installer, second one is for troubleshooting
only (Brian will tell you when to use this) the third is just the main program
update only. check the date and time to see if the main program itself was
updated after the total install package.
   brian.

Lew Best <bee_keeper@...> wrote:
   Ok; went to weather-display.com; looks like the top 3 downloads work
with XP. Which one do I want?

Lew


-----Original Message-----
From: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug
Augelli
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 3:05 PM
To: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [LacrosseWS] new 2308; need help

Brian, the author is a great guy...great tech support from him, and
others in the WD forum

Lew Best wrote: Thanks! I'll download the
trial & see what it does; just quickly looked
at the home page & it sure looks impressive!

Lew


-----Original Message-----
From: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug
Augelli
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:57 PM
To: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LacrosseWS] new 2308; need help

Hi Lew...I use Weather Display to send my data to Wunderground..pretty
easy and painless

http://www.weather-display.com

Doug

http://www.berwickweather.com

Lew Best wrote: Hey guys

Newbee here; got my 2308 bout a week ago. Thursday I tried to link to
wunderground.com; couldn’t figure out how. Sent an email to
wunderground help; they said to join wuhu_software_group here on yahoo;
download their software & it should work. It don’t. :-( When the
software tries to upload it says on the log that the relative pressure
is 80.64 InHg & aborts the entire upload. On my heavy weather screen on
the cptr it gives a normal looking reading in absolute pressure of
29.52. Tried changing this setting to absolute but that doesn’t change
anything on the attempted upload to wunderground.

Anyone got any suggestions? I’m open to using other software if that’s
a viable option; just want to be able to get the data uploading

Thanks!!

Lew Best near Waco, TX




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Lew,
        You definitely want the top one. It's for first time users.
You'll love the program. I use with a LaCrosse 2010 and a Davis Vantage
Pro2.

                                            Bill

Lew Best wrote:

>Ok; went to weather-display.com; looks like the top 3 downloads work
>with XP.  Which one do I want?
>
>Lew
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
>[mailto:Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug
>Augelli
>Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 3:05 PM
>To: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [LacrosseWS] new 2308; need help
>
>Brian, the author is a great guy...great tech support from him, and
>others in the WD forum
>
>Lew Best <bee_keeper@...> wrote: Thanks!  I'll download the
>trial & see what it does; just quickly looked
>at the home page & it sure looks impressive!
>
>Lew
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
>[mailto:Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug
>Augelli
>Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:57 PM
>To: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [LacrosseWS] new 2308; need help
>
>Hi Lew...I use Weather Display  to send my data to Wunderground..pretty
>easy and painless
>
>http://www.weather-display.com
>
>Doug
>
>http://www.berwickweather.com
>
>Lew Best  wrote: Hey guys
>
>Newbee here; got my 2308 bout a week ago.  Thursday I tried to link to
>wunderground.com; couldn’t figure out how.  Sent an email to
>wunderground help; they said to join wuhu_software_group here on yahoo;
>download their software & it should work.  It don’t.  :-(  When the
>software tries to upload it says on the log that the relative pressure
>is 80.64 InHg & aborts the entire upload.  On my heavy weather screen on
>the cptr it gives a normal looking reading in absolute pressure of
>29.52.  Tried changing this setting to absolute but that doesn’t change
>anything on the attempted upload to wunderground.
>
>Anyone got any suggestions?  I’m open to using other software if that’s
>a viable option; just want to be able to get the data uploading
>
>Thanks!!
>
>Lew Best near Waco, TX
>
>
>
>
>
>

Lew you want the first link...full install
or just follow this link:
http://www.weather-display.com/downloads.php?file=wdisplay32.exe

Doug

http://www.berwickweather.com


Lew Best <bee_keeper@...> wrote: Ok; went to weather-display.com;
looks like the top 3 downloads work
with XP.  Which one do I want?

Lew


-----Original Message-----
From: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug
Augelli
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 3:05 PM
To: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [LacrosseWS] new 2308; need help

Brian, the author is a great guy...great tech support from him, and
others in the WD forum

Lew Best  wrote: Thanks!  I'll download the
trial & see what it does; just quickly looked
at the home page & it sure looks impressive!

Lew


-----Original Message-----
From: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug
Augelli
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:57 PM
To: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LacrosseWS] new 2308; need help

Hi Lew...I use Weather Display  to send my data to Wunderground..pretty
easy and painless

http://www.weather-display.com

Doug

http://www.berwickweather.com

Lew Best  wrote: Hey guys

Newbee here; got my 2308 bout a week ago.  Thursday I tried to link to
wunderground.com; couldn’t figure out how.  Sent an email to
wunderground help; they said to join wuhu_software_group here on yahoo;
download their software & it should work.  It don’t.  :-(  When the
software tries to upload it says on the log that the relative pressure
is 80.64 InHg & aborts the entire upload.  On my heavy weather screen on
the cptr it gives a normal looking reading in absolute pressure of
29.52.  Tried changing this setting to absolute but that doesn’t change
anything on the attempted upload to wunderground.

Anyone got any suggestions?  I’m open to using other software if that’s
a viable option; just want to be able to get the data uploading

Thanks!!

Lew Best near Waco, TX




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Does anyone have any pointers to technical data on the wind sensor for
the 23** series?   I've got a 2317 and I'd like to see if I could make
another interface to the sensor so that I could get real time display
  for the wind direction and speed.  Nothing like having meters that
move in real time to make judgements on what the wind is doing.  Those
samples taken every 8 sec just don't do it for me.

I'm tempted to take it appart and have a look,  but its still under
warranty and mostly works except for the occasionaly spurt of bad data
that every one seems to experience.  I've heard shielded cable helps
that problem.

tks
Don

Don,

As far as I know, the wind sensor is like a tiny embedded system that is
transmitting data serially to the remote thermo unit. That being the
case, there is probably no way to increase the reports as it is probably
hardcoded.

You might want to consider using a seperate sensor for measuring speed.
You could continue to use the La Crosse wind direction from the original
sensor.

Here is a unit that I am considering buying:

http://www.inspeed.com/anemometers/Vortex_Wind_Sensor.asp
<http://www.inspeed.com/anemometers/Vortex_Wind_Sensor.asp>

The only thing stopping me at this point is drilling yet another hole in
the wall to run the cable. This spring, I am hoping to put some type of
junction box in the wall from running cable, rj-11, and other wires.


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<don_wa5ngp@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any pointers to technical data on the wind sensor for
> the 23** series? I've got a 2317 and I'd like to see if I could make
> another interface to the sensor so that I could get real time display
> for the wind direction and speed. Nothing like having meters that
> move in real time to make judgements on what the wind is doing. Those
> samples taken every 8 sec just don't do it for me.
>
> I'm tempted to take it appart and have a look, but its still under
> warranty and mostly works except for the occasionaly spurt of bad data
> that every one seems to experience. I've heard shielded cable helps
> that problem.
>
> tks
> Don
>




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I received notice from the folks that run the APRS servers that I was
not using the correct servers to upload my data, despite my having
already updated the entries in my open2300.conf file. I did some
investigation and found a defect in the logic for handling the
APRS_SERVER entries and have implemented a fix. While modifying the
file I updated the list of default servers to the new list. Below is
the diff output showimg my changes to resolve this issue.

2399,2403c2399,2409
<       strcpy(config->aprs_host[0].name, "aprswest.net");         //
host1 name
<       config->aprs_host[0].port = 23;                            //
host1 port
<       strcpy(config->aprs_host[1].name, "indiana.aprs2.net");    //
host2 name
<       config->aprs_host[1].port = 23;                            //
host2 port
<       config->num_hosts = 2;                                     //
default number of defined hosts
---
>       strcpy(config->aprs_host[0].name, "rotate.aprs.net");
// host1 name
>       config->aprs_host[0].port = 14580;
// host1 port
>       strcpy(config->aprs_host[1].name, "first.aprs.net");
// host2 name
>       config->aprs_host[1].port = 14580;
// host2 port
>       strcpy(config->aprs_host[2].name, "second.aprs.net");
// host3 name
>       config->aprs_host[2].port = 14580;
// host3 port
>       strcpy(config->aprs_host[3].name, "third.aprs.net");
// host4 name
>       config->aprs_host[3].port = 14580;
// host4 port
>       strcpy(config->aprs_host[4].name, "fifth.aprs.net");
// host5 name
>       config->aprs_host[4].port = 14580;
// host5 port
>       config->num_hosts = 0;                                     //
DON'T count the pre-defined hosts yet
2586a2593,2598
>       // Expose the default host names if no configuration file was
found or
>       // one was supplied but it didn't contain any APRS_SERVER entries.
>       if (0 == config->num_hosts) {
>               config->num_hosts = 5;
>       }
>

tks  for quick response Wuhu.

I think I'll start off by just scoping the wires coming out of the
unit before it goes into the temp unit  etc. to see what's there.  I'm
going to need to do something with the cabling due to the erratic
readings caused by electrical noise

I was hoping that all it was for the wind sensor  was just pulses
created like the  after market unit you referenced.  Even if its some
kind of fancier serial transmitter I think I could tap into the
circuitry of  the sensor upstream of the ciruitry.  I saw a photo here

http://www.lavrsen.dk/sources/weather/windmod.htm

These photos
makes me think that somewhere in the process the little turbine has a
magnet that either triggers a reed switch or a hall effect device in
there so one could tap into that.  It does help to be an EE and have a
oscilloscope.  I'll post the results good or bad.  It his however, yet
another fun project that has to get in line behind all my other todos.

I may have asked you this before on the wuhu forum so please excuse
me,  but do you think that  the turbine type sensors are inherently
any less accurate than the dixie cup type?  Seems like with proper
calibration that they should work ok.  True,  they have less torque to
overcome friction but I noticed that mine whirled up to speed with the
slightest wind.  However, mine when it does read something reasonable
  is usually slower than I would expect.

I got a feeling Lacrosse gets a lot of calls on this.  They did not
respond to my email.

best regards
Don

Hello,

Does it exists a mailing list talking about weather stations based on
1-wire sensors?

Thanks,

--
    Frédéric

    http://www.gbiloba.org

Hi,

Despite the fact I'm using lithium bateries for the outside sensor, my
ws2300 still gives bad temperature: -24°C instead of -3 or -4°C, during
the night!

I checked that the voltage remains over 3V, even during the night. Any idea
what can be the problem? I can buy another temp/sensor for 20¤, but Iwould
like to be sure that the problem is there...

Thanks,

--
    Frédéric

    http://www.gbiloba.org

Don,

I am looking forward to what you come up with.

What would be interesting, if it could be done, would be to take the
Inspeed Vortex sensor and pipe in to the RPM counter on the La Crosse
board. I would guess that you would need to generate many more pulses
than the Vortex current outputs (1 pulse per second = 2.5 mph?).

The turbines do seem to work Ok although they do seem to under report
the wind speed. I am not sure if perhaps the cup style has more mass
and perhaps better bearings that keep it moving until the next bit of
breeze comes along.

Since the turbine have very little mass, it has to overcome the
static friction at startup. Just a theory.


--- In Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com, "don_wa5ngp"
<don_wa5ngp@...> wrote:
>
> tks  for quick response Wuhu.
>
> I think I'll start off by just scoping the wires coming out of the
> unit before it goes into the temp unit  etc. to see what's there.
I'm
> going to need to do something with the cabling due to the erratic
> readings caused by electrical noise
>
> I was hoping that all it was for the wind sensor  was just pulses
> created like the  after market unit you referenced.  Even if its
some
> kind of fancier serial transmitter I think I could tap into the
> circuitry of  the sensor upstream of the ciruitry.  I saw a photo
here
>
> http://www.lavrsen.dk/sources/weather/windmod.htm
>
> These photos
> makes me think that somewhere in the process the little turbine has
a
> magnet that either triggers a reed switch or a hall effect device in
> there so one could tap into that.  It does help to be an EE and
have a
> oscilloscope.  I'll post the results good or bad.  It his however,
yet
> another fun project that has to get in line behind all my other
todos.
>
> I may have asked you this before on the wuhu forum so please excuse
> me,  but do you think that  the turbine type sensors are inherently
> any less accurate than the dixie cup type?  Seems like with proper
> calibration that they should work ok.  True,  they have less torque
to
> overcome friction but I noticed that mine whirled up to speed with
the
> slightest wind.  However, mine when it does read something
reasonable
>  is usually slower than I would expect.
>
> I got a feeling Lacrosse gets a lot of calls on this.  They did not
> respond to my email.
>
> best regards
> Don
>

If you hold the /CE line on the WS2300-15 permanently low, it will report at
approx 2s intervals.

Stuart Parker
www.sparxfly.co.nz
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: wuhu_software
   To: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:41 AM
   Subject: [LacrosseWS] Re: technical data on wind sensor for 23** models



   Don,

   As far as I know, the wind sensor is like a tiny embedded system that is
   transmitting data serially to the remote thermo unit. That being the
   case, there is probably no way to increase the reports as it is probably
   hardcoded.

   You might want to consider using a seperate sensor for measuring speed.
   You could continue to use the La Crosse wind direction from the original
   sensor.

   Here is a unit that I am considering buying:

   http://www.inspeed.com/anemometers/Vortex_Wind_Sensor.asp
   <http://www.inspeed.com/anemometers/Vortex_Wind_Sensor.asp>

   The only thing stopping me at this point is drilling yet another hole in
   the wall to run the cable. This spring, I am hoping to put some type of
   junction box in the wall from running cable, rj-11, and other wires.

   --- In Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com, "don_wa5ngp"
   <don_wa5ngp@...> wrote:
   >
   > Does anyone have any pointers to technical data on the wind sensor for
   > the 23** series? I've got a 2317 and I'd like to see if I could make
   > another interface to the sensor so that I could get real time display
   > for the wind direction and speed. Nothing like having meters that
   > move in real time to make judgements on what the wind is doing. Those
   > samples taken every 8 sec just don't do it for me.
   >
   > I'm tempted to take it appart and have a look, but its still under
   > warranty and mostly works except for the occasionaly spurt of bad data
   > that every one seems to experience. I've heard shielded cable helps
   > that problem.
   >
   > tks
   > Don
   >

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Stuart,

   Did someone completely decode the protocol? I remember there was work being
done although I never heard if the they had anything functional?

   Thanks.

Stuart & Ruth Parker <s.parker@...> wrote:
           If you hold the /CE line on the WS2300-15 permanently low, it will
report at approx 2s intervals.

Stuart Parker
www.sparxfly.co.nz
----- Original Message -----
From: wuhu_software
To: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:41 AM
Subject: [LacrosseWS] Re: technical data on wind sensor for 23** models

Don,

As far as I know, the wind sensor is like a tiny embedded system that is
transmitting data serially to the remote thermo unit. That being the
case, there is probably no way to increase the reports as it is probably
hardcoded.

You might want to consider using a seperate sensor for measuring speed.
You could continue to use the La Crosse wind direction from the original
sensor.

Here is a unit that I am considering buying:

http://www.inspeed.com/anemometers/Vortex_Wind_Sensor.asp
<http://www.inspeed.com/anemometers/Vortex_Wind_Sensor.asp>

The only thing stopping me at this point is drilling yet another hole in
the wall to run the cable. This spring, I am hoping to put some type of
junction box in the wall from running cable, rj-11, and other wires.

--- In Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com, "don_wa5ngp"
<don_wa5ngp@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any pointers to technical data on the wind sensor for
> the 23** series? I've got a 2317 and I'd like to see if I could make
> another interface to the sensor so that I could get real time display
> for the wind direction and speed. Nothing like having meters that
> move in real time to make judgements on what the wind is doing. Those
> samples taken every 8 sec just don't do it for me.
>
> I'm tempted to take it appart and have a look, but its still under
> warranty and mostly works except for the occasionaly spurt of bad data
> that every one seems to experience. I've heard shielded cable helps
> that problem.
>
> tks
> Don
>

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The CE line?  Is that on  one of the signals  on the rs232 cable from
pc to the humid/temp sensor or from the humid sensor to the wind sensor?

I like the 2s interval idea.  I suppose that it has no effect on the
wireless reporting frequency.

Don-- In Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com, Stuart & Ruth
Parker <s.parker@...> wrote:
>
> If you hold the /CE line on the WS2300-15 permanently low, it will
report at approx 2s intervals.
>
> Stuart Parker
> www.sparxfly.co.nz
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: wuhu_software
>   To: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:41 AM
>   Subject: [LacrosseWS] Re: technical data on wind sensor for 23**
models
>
>
>
>   Don,
>
>   As far as I know, the wind sensor is like a tiny embedded system
that is
>   transmitting data serially to the remote thermo unit. That being the
>   case, there is probably no way to increase the reports as it is
probably
>   hardcoded.
>
>   You might want to consider using a seperate sensor for measuring
speed.
>   You could continue to use the La Crosse wind direction from the
original
>   sensor.
>
>   Here is a unit that I am considering buying:
>
>   http://www.inspeed.com/anemometers/Vortex_Wind_Sensor.asp
>   <http://www.inspeed.com/anemometers/Vortex_Wind_Sensor.asp>
>
>   The only thing stopping me at this point is drilling yet another
hole in
>   the wall to run the cable. This spring, I am hoping to put some
type of
>   junction box in the wall from running cable, rj-11, and other wires.
>
>   --- In Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com, "don_wa5ngp"
>   <don_wa5ngp@> wrote:
>   >
>   > Does anyone have any pointers to technical data on the wind
sensor for
>   > the 23** series? I've got a 2317 and I'd like to see if I could make
>   > another interface to the sensor so that I could get real time
display
>   > for the wind direction and speed. Nothing like having meters that
>   > move in real time to make judgements on what the wind is doing.
Those
>   > samples taken every 8 sec just don't do it for me.
>   >
>   > I'm tempted to take it appart and have a look, but its still under
>   > warranty and mostly works except for the occasionaly spurt of
bad data
>   > that every one seems to experience. I've heard shielded cable helps
>   > that problem.
>   >
>   > tks
>   > Don
>   >
>
>   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I believe that the anemometer for the Lacrosse WS36xx is the same as
the 23xx. (I have a 3610).

I look forward to hearing about the anatomy of this thing. I'd expect
it to use an opto-isolator (Infrared LED and phototransistor). A
magnet/reed switch would (a) wear out to soon (b) offer mechanical
resistance and might cause stalling.

My old Heathkit Weather Station - still working after so many years,
including the outdoor stuff - uses IR diodes for wind speed and for
encoding wind direction. The latter is done with an optical disk on
which is imprinted a grey code of 4 bits. This means only one bit
changes at a time for the 16 possible direction codes. This simplifies
de-bouncing the state changes.

The wind speed sensor is another issue. Seems to me that a
sophisticated algorithm is needed to assure that bursts of pulses are
ignored when the speed sensor is moving very slowly or coming to rest.
I suspect this isn't correctly designed in the subject sensors.

I did some correspondence with Lacrosse way back, about the absurdly
poor LCD contrast in the 36xx. From all of that, and some other
research, I came to the conclusion that Lacrosse is the No. American
sales/marketing arm of the Asian manufacturer; I think a different
brand name is used in some other areas of the world. So gripes about
the design fall on deaf ears, as some other financial entity is
responsible.

Yes, Its been my experience that with any product these days that
gripes about function only result in blank looks (if you could see the
person) or a computer generated form letter.  I had the same complaint
about LCD contrast.  I tried exchanging at Best Buy until I found out
that "they all are like that".  Same thing with the eratic wind speed
readings although sounds like shielded cabling may be the answer to
that one.

I think you are correct that these things are designed somewhere else
and may be sold under various brands.  It would be interesting to get
to the source.  As one who works in a major electronics company I know
those people wont' hang out at places like this news group  just
because they'd have to answer so many embarassing questions about why
the designs were compromised for some stupid reason.

I was thinking that the wind direction would be a grey code kind of
thing just because as you said its the most straightforward way to
count up even  if not binary accurate.  I have quite a few old heath
kit things.  I had forgotten about their wx stations products.  That
was after Heath kit modernized.  :-)

We'll see how long I resist taking a screw driver to it.  I was hoping
the interface from wind sensor to temp box  was not complex but I'm
getting suspicious that its IIC or something like that,  so then
you've got to sort out protocals and all that stuff, clearly more than
I want to embark on.  I could be happy just going into the the guts of
the thing and tapping off the analog signals and doing some of my own
hardware hacking.   My main interest would be to make a direct reading
  real time tachometer so I could see the dynamics of wind speed
changes.   I need to be careful, as sometimes what happens is that all
I have left is a broken toy after I'm done with the solder iron and
screwdriver.  :-(

regards
Don

--- In Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com, "stevech11"
<stevech@...> wrote:
>
> I believe that the anemometer for the Lacrosse WS36xx is the same as
> the 23xx. (I have a 3610).
>
> I look forward to hearing about the anatomy of this thing. I'd expect
> it to use an opto-isolator (Infrared LED and phototransistor). A
> magnet/reed switch would (a) wear out to soon (b) offer mechanical
> resistance and might cause stalling.
>
> My old Heathkit Weather Station - still working after so many years,
> including the outdoor stuff - uses IR diodes for wind speed and for
> encoding wind direction. The latter is done with an optical disk on
> which is imprinted a grey code of 4 bits. This means only one bit
> changes at a time for the 16 possible direction codes. This simplifies
> de-bouncing the state changes.
>
> The wind speed sensor is another issue. Seems to me that a
> sophisticated algorithm is needed to assure that bursts of pulses are
> ignored when the speed sensor is moving very slowly or coming to rest.
> I suspect this isn't correctly designed in the subject sensors.
>
> I did some correspondence with Lacrosse way back, about the absurdly
> poor LCD contrast in the 36xx. From all of that, and some other
> research, I came to the conclusion that Lacrosse is the No. American
> sales/marketing arm of the Asian manufacturer; I think a different
> brand name is used in some other areas of the world. So gripes about
> the design fall on deaf ears, as some other financial entity is
> responsible.
>

yes, the friction theory is one... but at very small wind I saw that
it spun up surprisingly well.

Maybe its  more of an issue at high wind speeds since friction does go
up with speed.
As fast as that turbine went at low speed it was a bit hard to see how
it could go  that much faster when the wind went up.  Maybe that's the
issue.  I know that they are commonly used on handheld units.  Maybe
if its that windy you should not be out there holding your hand up. :-)

On  the 2.5mph/rev one.  Is the assumption that its linear with
increasing wind?   Ie 10mph=4hz etc, I got a feeling that linear might
not last long at higher speeds.  Those kinds of hz readings lend
themselves to using a simple automobile tachometer with some mods.

I suspect that it would not be a big deal to hot wire  your vortex in
place of the Lacrosse  turbine.  I am assuming that since your
software has a calibration feature that you just have a look up table
that you could translate a vortex/turbine reading into a calibrated
one of your own chosing.  Come to think of it, that would be the way
to handle non-linear readings.  Of course the LCD would be all wrong.

I really want to see those real time readings like you see at the old
weather stations where those meters are dialing and moving all around.
  I guess it shows my age, but it has been demonsrated that people
prefer analog speedometers  and tachs even if they are digital
underneath.  I hope that comment doesn't start a flame war here.

Don

-- In Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com, "wuhu_software"
<wuhu_software@...> wrote:
>
> Don,
>
> I am looking forward to what you come up with.
>
> What would be interesting, if it could be done, would be to take the
> Inspeed Vortex sensor and pipe in to the RPM counter on the La Crosse
> board. I would guess that you would need to generate many more pulses
> than the Vortex current outputs (1 pulse per second = 2.5 mph?).
>
> The turbines do seem to work Ok although they do seem to under report
> the wind speed. I am not sure if perhaps the cup style has more mass
> and perhaps better bearings that keep it moving until the next bit of
> breeze comes along.
>
> Since the turbine have very little mass, it has to overcome the
> static friction at startup. Just a theory.
>
>
> --- In Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com, "don_wa5ngp"
> <don_wa5ngp@> wrote:
> >
> > tks  for quick response Wuhu.
> >
> > I think I'll start off by just scoping the wires coming out of the
> > unit before it goes into the temp unit  etc. to see what's there.
> I'm
> > going to need to do something with the cabling due to the erratic
> > readings caused by electrical noise
> >
> > I was hoping that all it was for the wind sensor  was just pulses
> > created like the  after market unit you referenced.  Even if its
> some
> > kind of fancier serial transmitter I think I could tap into the
> > circuitry of  the sensor upstream of the ciruitry.  I saw a photo
> here
> >
> > http://www.lavrsen.dk/sources/weather/windmod.htm
> >
> > These photos
> > makes me think that somewhere in the process the little turbine has
> a
> > magnet that either triggers a reed switch or a hall effect device in
> > there so one could tap into that.  It does help to be an EE and
> have a
> > oscilloscope.  I'll post the results good or bad.  It his however,
> yet
> > another fun project that has to get in line behind all my other
> todos.
> >
> > I may have asked you this before on the wuhu forum so please excuse
> > me,  but do you think that  the turbine type sensors are inherently
> > any less accurate than the dixie cup type?  Seems like with proper
> > calibration that they should work ok.  True,  they have less torque
> to
> > overcome friction but I noticed that mine whirled up to speed with
> the
> > slightest wind.  However, mine when it does read something
> reasonable
> >  is usually slower than I would expect.
> >
> > I got a feeling Lacrosse gets a lot of calls on this.  They did not
> > respond to my email.
> >
> > best regards
> > Don
> >
>

I always assumed that the "low" readings were because it had to wait until
the vane was actually pointed at the wind before it could spin up to speed,
and the reading could be taken before it was aimed correctly.  With cups,
the wind direction doesn't matter at all.

Dave

On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 03:04:14AM -0000, don_wa5ngp wrote:
> yes, the friction theory is one... but at very small wind I saw that
> it spun up surprisingly well.
>
> Maybe its  more of an issue at high wind speeds since friction does go
> up with speed.
> As fast as that turbine went at low speed it was a bit hard to see how
> it could go  that much faster when the wind went up.  Maybe that's the
> issue.  I know that they are commonly used on handheld units.  Maybe
> if its that windy you should not be out there holding your hand up. :-)
>
> On  the 2.5mph/rev one.  Is the assumption that its linear with
> increasing wind?   Ie 10mph=4hz etc, I got a feeling that linear might
> not last long at higher speeds.  Those kinds of hz readings lend
> themselves to using a simple automobile tachometer with some mods.
>
> I suspect that it would not be a big deal to hot wire  your vortex in
> place of the Lacrosse  turbine.  I am assuming that since your
> software has a calibration feature that you just have a look up table
> that you could translate a vortex/turbine reading into a calibrated
> one of your own chosing.  Come to think of it, that would be the way
> to handle non-linear readings.  Of course the LCD would be all wrong.
>
> I really want to see those real time readings like you see at the old
> weather stations where those meters are dialing and moving all around.
>  I guess it shows my age, but it has been demonsrated that people
> prefer analog speedometers  and tachs even if they are digital
> underneath.  I hope that comment doesn't start a flame war here.
>
> Don
>
> -- In Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com, "wuhu_software"
> <wuhu_software@...> wrote:
> >
> > Don,
> >
> > I am looking forward to what you come up with.
> >
> > What would be interesting, if it could be done, would be to take the
> > Inspeed Vortex sensor and pipe in to the RPM counter on the La Crosse
> > board. I would guess that you would need to generate many more pulses
> > than the Vortex current outputs (1 pulse per second = 2.5 mph?).
> >
> > The turbines do seem to work Ok although they do seem to under report
> > the wind speed. I am not sure if perhaps the cup style has more mass
> > and perhaps better bearings that keep it moving until the next bit of
> > breeze comes along.
> >
> > Since the turbine have very little mass, it has to overcome the
> > static friction at startup. Just a theory.
> >
> >
> > --- In Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com, "don_wa5ngp"
> > <don_wa5ngp@> wrote:
> > >
> > > tks  for quick response Wuhu.
> > >
> > > I think I'll start off by just scoping the wires coming out of the
> > > unit before it goes into the temp unit  etc. to see what's there.
> > I'm
> > > going to need to do something with the cabling due to the erratic
> > > readings caused by electrical noise
> > >
> > > I was hoping that all it was for the wind sensor  was just pulses
> > > created like the  after market unit you referenced.  Even if its
> > some
> > > kind of fancier serial transmitter I think I could tap into the
> > > circuitry of  the sensor upstream of the ciruitry.  I saw a photo
> > here
> > >
> > > http://www.lavrsen.dk/sources/weather/windmod.htm
> > >
> > > These photos
> > > makes me think that somewhere in the process the little turbine has
> > a
> > > magnet that either triggers a reed switch or a hall effect device in
> > > there so one could tap into that.  It does help to be an EE and
> > have a
> > > oscilloscope.  I'll post the results good or bad.  It his however,
> > yet
> > > another fun project that has to get in line behind all my other
> > todos.
> > >
> > > I may have asked you this before on the wuhu forum so please excuse
> > > me,  but do you think that  the turbine type sensors are inherently
> > > any less accurate than the dixie cup type?  Seems like with proper
> > > calibration that they should work ok.  True,  they have less torque
> > to
> > > overcome friction but I noticed that mine whirled up to speed with
> > the
> > > slightest wind.  However, mine when it does read something
> > reasonable
> > >  is usually slower than I would expect.
> > >
> > > I got a feeling Lacrosse gets a lot of calls on this.  They did not
> > > respond to my email.
> > >
> > > best regards
> > > Don
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

I use the WS2300-15 on my airfield weather stations.
Had to reverse engineer the protocol and data stream.
The /CE line is one of the 4 wires to the anemometer (VCC, GND, /CE, DATA).
Data stream is loooong serial block with start pattern, direction, speed,
checksum.
I posted the info on this list some time back- must be in the archives
somewhere.
If you can't find it I can send it to you- just a bit busy at present to pull up
the info.
The turbine response is a bit non-linear and 'peaky'- it doesn't have the
mechanical inertia of a cup anemometer.
I damp the response in software to avoid over-reporting of momentary gusts.

Stuart Parker
www.sparxfly.co.nz


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: H. Smith
   To: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:24 PM
   Subject: Re: [LacrosseWS] Re: technical data on wind sensor for 23** models


   Stuart,

   Did someone completely decode the protocol? I remember there was work being
done although I never heard if the they had anything functional?

   Thanks.

   Stuart & Ruth Parker <s.parker@...> wrote:
   If you hold the /CE line on the WS2300-15 permanently low, it will report at
approx 2s intervals.

   Stuart Parker
   www.sparxfly.co.nz
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: wuhu_software
   To: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:41 AM
   Subject: [LacrosseWS] Re: technical data on wind sensor for 23** models

   Don,

   As far as I know, the wind sensor is like a tiny embedded system that is
   transmitting data serially to the remote thermo unit. That being the
   case, there is probably no way to increase the reports as it is probably
   hardcoded.

   You might want to consider using a seperate sensor for measuring speed.
   You could continue to use the La Crosse wind direction from the original
   sensor.

   Here is a unit that I am considering buying:

   http://www.inspeed.com/anemometers/Vortex_Wind_Sensor.asp
   <http://www.inspeed.com/anemometers/Vortex_Wind_Sensor.asp>

   The only thing stopping me at this point is drilling yet another hole in
   the wall to run the cable. This spring, I am hoping to put some type of
   junction box in the wall from running cable, rj-11, and other wires.

   --- In Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com, "don_wa5ngp"
   <don_wa5ngp@...> wrote:
   >
   > Does anyone have any pointers to technical data on the wind sensor for
   > the 23** series? I've got a 2317 and I'd like to see if I could make
   > another interface to the sensor so that I could get real time display
   > for the wind direction and speed. Nothing like having meters that
   > move in real time to make judgements on what the wind is doing. Those
   > samples taken every 8 sec just don't do it for me.
   >
   > I'm tempted to take it appart and have a look, but its still under
   > warranty and mostly works except for the occasionaly spurt of bad data
   > that every one seems to experience. I've heard shielded cable helps
   > that problem.
   >
   > tks
   > Don
   >

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Stuart,

When you get a chance, I would like to see your document. Maybe you
could post it in the files section.

Also, did you ever look at the communications link between the
console and the remote thermo unit?

Thanks.


--- In Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com, Stuart & Ruth
Parker <s.parker@...> wrote:
>
> I use the WS2300-15 on my airfield weather stations.
> Had to reverse engineer the protocol and data stream.
> The /CE line is one of the 4 wires to the anemometer (VCC,
GND, /CE, DATA).
> Data stream is loooong serial block with start pattern, direction,
speed, checksum.
> I posted the info on this list some time back- must be in the
archives somewhere.
> If you can't find it I can send it to you- just a bit busy at
present to pull up the info.
> The turbine response is a bit non-linear and 'peaky'- it doesn't
have the mechanical inertia of a cup anemometer.
> I damp the response in software to avoid over-reporting of
momentary gusts.
>
> Stuart Parker
> www.sparxfly.co.nz
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: H. Smith
>   To: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:24 PM
>   Subject: Re: [LacrosseWS] Re: technical data on wind sensor for
23** models
>
>
>   Stuart,
>
>   Did someone completely decode the protocol? I remember there was
work being done although I never heard if the they had anything
functional?
>
>   Thanks.
>
>   Stuart & Ruth Parker <s.parker@...> wrote:
>   If you hold the /CE line on the WS2300-15 permanently low, it
will report at approx 2s intervals.
>
>   Stuart Parker
>   www.sparxfly.co.nz
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: wuhu_software
>   To: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:41 AM
>   Subject: [LacrosseWS] Re: technical data on wind sensor for 23**
models
>
>   Don,
>
>   As far as I know, the wind sensor is like a tiny embedded system
that is
>   transmitting data serially to the remote thermo unit. That being
the
>   case, there is probably no way to increase the reports as it is
probably
>   hardcoded.
>
>   You might want to consider using a seperate sensor for measuring
speed.
>   You could continue to use the La Crosse wind direction from the
original
>   sensor.
>
>   Here is a unit that I am considering buying:
>
>   http://www.inspeed.com/anemometers/Vortex_Wind_Sensor.asp
>   <http://www.inspeed.com/anemometers/Vortex_Wind_Sensor.asp>
>
>   The only thing stopping me at this point is drilling yet another
hole in
>   the wall to run the cable. This spring, I am hoping to put some
type of
>   junction box in the wall from running cable, rj-11, and other
wires.
>
>   --- In Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com, "don_wa5ngp"
>   <don_wa5ngp@> wrote:
>   >
>   > Does anyone have any pointers to technical data on the wind
sensor for
>   > the 23** series? I've got a 2317 and I'd like to see if I could
make
>   > another interface to the sensor so that I could get real time
display
>   > for the wind direction and speed. Nothing like having meters
that
>   > move in real time to make judgements on what the wind is doing.
Those
>   > samples taken every 8 sec just don't do it for me.
>   >
>   > I'm tempted to take it appart and have a look, but its still
under
>   > warranty and mostly works except for the occasionaly spurt of
bad data
>   > that every one seems to experience. I've heard shielded cable
helps
>   > that problem.
>   >
>   > tks
>   > Don
>   >
>
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>
>   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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>
>
>
>
>
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>

> Also, did you ever look at the communications link between the
> console and the remote thermo unit?

I'm interested in this also... Stuck in a rut at the moment (wanting
the faster updates with wired but want the lightning/static/transients
isolation with wireless).

I do have some 433Mhz transmitter/receiver pairs I bought on Ebay, but
without a pinout I hate to try anything. Going by this diagram,
http://tech.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Lacrosse_weather_stations/photos/view/a199\
?b=1
it looks as if one could transmit the data line and apply 3V and
ground to 2 other pins...  But what is the 'un-named' pin?

If that URL is unreadble, the picture is in the photos section of this
group.

BTW, there are pictures here of someone dismantling a wind sensor and
adding a shielded wire between the sensor and the temp/hum unit:
http://www.lavrsen.dk/sources/weather/windmod.htm
I was surprised to see components on the wind sensor, always thought
it was passive with reed switches.

Larry


--- In Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com, "wuhu_software"
<wuhu_software@...> wrote:
>
> Stuart,
>
> When you get a chance, I would like to see your document. Maybe you
> could post it in the files section.
>
> Also, did you ever look at the communications link between the
> console and the remote thermo unit?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> --- In Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com, Stuart & Ruth
> Parker <s.parker@> wrote:
> >
> > I use the WS2300-15 on my airfield weather stations.
> > Had to reverse engineer the protocol and data stream.
> > The /CE line is one of the 4 wires to the anemometer (VCC,
> GND, /CE, DATA).
> > Data stream is loooong serial block with start pattern, direction,
> speed, checksum.
> > I posted the info on this list some time back- must be in the
> archives somewhere.
> > If you can't find it I can send it to you- just a bit busy at
> present to pull up the info.
> > The turbine response is a bit non-linear and 'peaky'- it doesn't
> have the mechanical inertia of a cup anemometer.
> > I damp the response in software to avoid over-reporting of
> momentary gusts.
> >
> > Stuart Parker
> > www.sparxfly.co.nz
> >
> >
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: H. Smith
> >   To: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
> >   Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:24 PM
> >   Subject: Re: [LacrosseWS] Re: technical data on wind sensor for
> 23** models
> >
> >
> >   Stuart,
> >
> >   Did someone completely decode the protocol? I remember there was
> work being done although I never heard if the they had anything
> functional?
> >
> >   Thanks.
> >
> >   Stuart & Ruth Parker <s.parker@> wrote:
> >   If you hold the /CE line on the WS2300-15 permanently low, it
> will report at approx 2s intervals.
> >
> >   Stuart Parker
> >   www.sparxfly.co.nz
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: wuhu_software
> >   To: Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com
> >   Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:41 AM
> >   Subject: [LacrosseWS] Re: technical data on wind sensor for 23**
> models
> >
> >   Don,
> >
> >   As far as I know, the wind sensor is like a tiny embedded system
> that is
> >   transmitting data serially to the remote thermo unit. That being
> the
> >   case, there is probably no way to increase the reports as it is
> probably
> >   hardcoded.
> >
> >   You might want to consider using a seperate sensor for measuring
> speed.
> >   You could continue to use the La Crosse wind direction from the
> original
> >   sensor.
> >
> >   Here is a unit that I am considering buying:
> >
> >   http://www.inspeed.com/anemometers/Vortex_Wind_Sensor.asp
> >   <http://www.inspeed.com/anemometers/Vortex_Wind_Sensor.asp>
> >
> >   The only thing stopping me at this point is drilling yet another
> hole in
> >   the wall to run the cable. This spring, I am hoping to put some
> type of
> >   junction box in the wall from running cable, rj-11, and other
> wires.
> >
> >   --- In Lacrosse_weather_stations@yahoogroups.com, "don_wa5ngp"
> >   <don_wa5ngp@> wrote:
> >   >
> >   > Does anyone have any pointers to technical data on the wind
> sensor for
> >   > the 23** series? I've got a 2317 and I'd like to see if I could
> make
> >   > another interface to the sensor so that I could get real time
> display
> >   > for the wind direction and speed. Nothing like having meters
> that
> >   > move in real time to make judgements on what the wind is doing.
> Those
> >   > samples taken every 8 sec just don't do it for me.
> >   >
> >   > I'm tempted to take it appart and have a look, but its still
> under
> >   > warranty and mostly works except for the occasionaly spurt of
> bad data
> >   > that every one seems to experience. I've heard shielded cable
> helps
> >   > that problem.
> >   >
> >   > tks
> >   > Don
> >   >
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

For those who want to run a cup type windspeed unit to compare with
the weatherstation output, but don't want to outlay much money...
Australian 'Silicon Chip' magazine had an article some time back using
cheap soup ladles as the cups, with a cheap bicycle trip computer, to
make a windspeed monitor.  Just calibrate it by driving around in your
car with a passenger!
The only thing extra you have to supply is a bearing.
For those of us who have ever upgraded a computer, we have old disk
drives hanging around, right?  Nice bearings in those.  The trip
computer supplies a hall-effect sensor already cabled.

Ken.


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