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212 LexiLine Newsletter 2003 Flinders Petrie and Chronology   Message List  
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Re: 212 LexiLine Newsletter 2003 Flinders Petrie and Chronology

Thank you Joan. The original ACELIST which preceded LexiLine was
started due to the fact that the ANE list did not appear to have the
level of intelligence on it which required this kind of work. I
doubt if anything has changed in the interim. It is still the good
old boys chewing the same nonsensical fat they thought they learned
50 years ago. They collect their salaries and pass off the same
rubbish as in the past decades.

You write that you "disagree". I have no trouble with the fact that
other people have their opinion - but on this list you will have to
back it up. I am no friend of the ANE list or its members.

What probative EVIDENCE is there - I am aware of none - for the
current chronology assigned to King Solomon? or for that matter King
Saul? King David? etc. - you can not analyze these things in a
vacuum - all of the reigns of kings have to match the evidence
correctly if a theory is to be viewed as valid. The Bible speaks of
the mighty reigns of these kings - yet, by current chronology - we
have not a single artifact which can be identified to any of them.
That is simply ludicrous. I am sorry, but I can not take such
archaeology and chronology seriously. It is a joke.

By evidence, I do not mean some professor's foolish opinion - I mean
hard archaeological facts - tangible evidence of a king's
illustrious Biblical reign - pots, writings, buildings, battles,
astronomy, etc. There is such evidence, but not for the period
assigned by the mainstream OR by Rohl, whose excellent books I have
read. Rohl just makes the mistake of moving the chronology forward
and not backward and by ignoring his own evidence.

It is Rohl who I have to thank for his reference to Artapanus, who
puts the birth of Moses in the reign of Chaneferre, which is ca.
1708 BC by my calculations. So how can Rohl then go on and simply
ignore this actual ancient EVIDENCE - the oldest known reference in
literature to Moses. Anyone who ignores Artapanus better have a good
reason - and I have thus far heard of none - other than typical
academic handwaving and buffalo-chipping. Artapanus is ignored
because what he wrote does not fit current doctrine - too bad for
the archaeologists - but that is just stinking, bad and dishonest
science.

--- In LexiLine@yahoogroups.com, "Joan Griffith" <despinn@h...>
wrote:
> Andis,
> I completely disagree that Rameses II was King Solomon. I think
David Rohl
> got this right by showing that Egypt could only rise once the
united kingdom
> of Israel broke apart.
>
> However, I am forwarding your email to the ANE list & will return
their
> comments to you.
>
> Joan
> One kind word can warm three winters."
> ---Japanese proverb
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Andis, I completely disagree that Rameses II was King Solomon. I think David Rohl got this right by showing that Egypt could only rise once the united kingdom ...
Joan Griffith
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Jul 8, 2003
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Thank you Joan. The original ACELIST which preceded LexiLine was started due to the fact that the ANE list did not appear to have the level of intelligence on...
Andis Kaulins
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Jul 8, 2003
3:32 pm

... wrote: ... united kingdom ... So what was Israel according to the evidence? and where was Judah? See http://www.lexiline.com/lexiline/lexi195.htm The Bible...
Andis Kaulins
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Jul 8, 2003
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Hi Andis, I have to agree with you on the exhibition of (non?)intelligence on the ANE list, sometimes... but on the other hand, there are some interesting & ...
Joan Griffith
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Jul 8, 2003
6:48 pm

Joan, Surely many of the ANE members are interesting and erudite. Who doubts that. However, what we are looking for are brilliant objective minds willing to...
Andis Kaulins
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Jul 9, 2003
12:35 pm

Below are two excellent links on the problem of chronology and the role of Flinders Petrie in the false meshing of Egyptian chronology with the chronology of...
Andis Kaulins
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Jul 9, 2003
1:36 pm

Petrie and Tell el Hesy (particularly the last commentary) https://www.eisenbrauns.com/ECOM/_0ZV1FFM2W.HTM Petrie Israel Palestine ...
Andis Kaulins
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Jul 9, 2003
2:35 pm

When Israel (Izrauji in Latvian means "rebels"), i.e. the rebels, Just for your information, Israel means "a prince of God." Latvians may very well be among...
Joan Griffith
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Jul 8, 2003
6:50 pm

Israel as Rebels The Jerusalem Illustrated Dictionary and Concordance of the Bible in its German version, which I have in my library, writes clearly under the...
Andis Kaulins
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Jul 9, 2003
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... Who has been the pharaoh that had kept isreal in captivity as told in the song "when israel was in egypts land"? -- Andreas...
Andreas Szabo
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Jul 9, 2003
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... on ... Rehoboam ... chronology. ... in ... Andreas, I do not know this song - please cite your sources when you post. Better here would be to cite the...
Andis Kaulins
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Jul 9, 2003
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... Isn't a prince of god a perfect rebel? Think about Je'sus. -- Andreas "Silva" "Ihr computer funktioniert seit zwei stunden problemlos. Microfoft Fixbug TM...
Andreas Szabo
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Jul 9, 2003
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... Where is the evidence for those word transcriptions or word or syllable relations are correct? Perhaps, israel has also been transcribed as is-real (is...
Andreas Szabo
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Jul 9, 2003
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Andreas wrote, ... syllable ... Full-proof "Evidence" for "correct" transcription of Hebrew terms as such is not extant - this is always the problem of any...
Andis Kaulins
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Jul 9, 2003
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The fact that Israel as a term FIRST appears anywhere in tangible history on the stela of the Pharaoh Merenptah - where the Pharaoh is speaking of the...
Joan Griffith
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Jul 9, 2003
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Joan wrote, ... which ... Well, we are not on common ground. Joan as many similar names of that form also masculine John, Jon etc. seems to be a variant of the...
Andis Kaulins
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Jul 9, 2003
3:42 pm

As for "Israel" and "Judah"... King Saul was Akhenaten (Echnaton the Sun King - Saul(e) in Latvian means "sun".) King David was Sethos (= Setoy, Ramses I - all...
Joan Griffith
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Jul 9, 2003
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Joan writes, ... At the time of Akhenaten, who did in fact introduce a new monotheistic belief system into Egypt - probably derived from his Hittite wife, the...
Andis Kaulins
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Jul 9, 2003
7:15 pm

... It's a gospel tale encouraging "Moses" to go "down to egypt's land" and tell the old pharao to let his people go free. This must be the chapter in the...
Andreas Szabo
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Jul 9, 2003
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... I was allways sure to have such a mind. Instead it turns out what i do not have is eruditedness in certain topics. After some years of beeing interested in...
Andreas Szabo
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Jul 9, 2003
5:00 pm

... joined - ... me. ... i do ... beeing ... are ... the ... Andreas, I AM amused. Andis...
Andis Kaulins
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Jul 9, 2003
5:06 pm

I am not sure where you ever got my name, but your stuff is most fascinating. Do you have a book or treatise or this material? Where are you located anyway? ...
Dave Gaefke
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Jul 9, 2003
8:00 pm

As a matter of fact, I can't recall what the Israelites were called under King Saul, but under King David they were called Davidum. Joan Good judgment comes...
Joan Griffith
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Jul 9, 2003
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... called under ... At http://www.specialtyinterests.net/zimrilim.html is found "Benjaminites and Davidites Hickman found what he believed to be the people of...
Andis Kaulins
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Jul 9, 2003
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Andis May I inquire, under your dating system or other, what year do you see the Hebrew taken captive to Egypt as first mentioned in: "I was stolen away out of...
Michael Busch
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Jul 10, 2003
7:34 am

Michael, This business of the Hebrews as alleged slaves in Egypt has gotten out of hand due to all the ridiculous Hollywood movies people have seen - Cecille...
Andis Kaulins
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Jul 10, 2003
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Andis Thank you for your well informed reply. I am expanding my understanding of how the Hebrew interacted with ancient Egypt and you have been a great help. ...
Michael Busch
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