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RE: [Lister_CSOG] Dr Pepper method for biodiesel?

It's a hokey soda bottle shaker method that doesn't make very good
biodiesel. It's cool for doing demonstrations. We were using it in classes
long before the "inventor" heard about our demonstrations and decided to
claim the process, without understanding the caveats..

Steve Spence

Director, Green Trust

http://www.green-trust.org


-----Original Message-----
From: Lister_CSOG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Lister_CSOG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of edutchie
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 6:41 AM
To: Lister_CSOG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Lister_CSOG] Dr Pepper method for biodiesel?

Dave,
I don't know anything about the Dr Pepper methoh of making biodiesel.
Please share or provide a link!

--- In Lister_CSOG@yahoogroups.com, dave vandekieft
<itsyourdime63@...> wrote:
>
> Bruce and Sandy,
>
> If you are already making biodiesel for other uses I think I
would use it in your 12/2 as well. I have a 12/2 with a 10kw head on
the way and plan on using WVO to run it. I made the decision to run
on WVO instead of biodiesel because I saw setting up a processor as
an unnecessary expense and didn't want to deal with the byproducts.
The small amount of biodiesel I will need for start-up and shut down
I can make with the Dr. Pepper method. If you do decide to run on WVO
the main things you will need to do are.
>
> Always start and shut down on diesel or biodiesel.
>
> You need to preheat your WVO to about 190F before injection (if
you have a 190F thermostat installed on your water outlet it makes a
nice WVO heater and your engine will like it).
>
> Prefiltering your WVO carefully is very important.
>
> Others with more knowledge than me will undoubtedly add to this.
I would love to hear more about your gen set.
>
> Dave
>
>
> Bruce Lulfs <brucelulfs@...> wrote: Hello all
>
> I hope to get my 12/2 and ST = 12 KW gen head up and running by
next summer.
>
> I am not sure If I should just make biodiesel for it or just run
it on WVO. If some of you guys run WVO how long have you run on it
and what should I know to do it?
>
> I am setting up a shed for it now but with making biodiesel now
and doing all the things around the house I have trouble finding the
time to do it all.
>
> thanks
>
> Bruce & Sandy
> Toledo Ohio Area Biodiesel site
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biodieseltolarea
> Our Home Web site
> http://home.toltbbs.com/kb8dil/
>
>
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Apparently (according to utterpower.com) Metro makes their own engines. If none of us own a Metro, it's unlikely we would know the answer to the question with...
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Mark, Since you have a working relationship with Metro Exporters I would love to hear what they say. Perhaps if they say they export Metex engines you could...
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Hello all I hope to get my 12/2 and ST = 12 KW gen head up and running by next summer. I am not sure If I should just make biodiesel for it or just run it on...
Bruce Lulfs
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If you have the time and set up already for the bio-diesel then stick with it. It will require the lesser amount of time to prepare your fuel for your ...
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Jul 27, 2006
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wvo takes less time to prepare than biodiesel. Steve Spence Director, Green Trust http://www.green-trust.org...
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Bruce and Sandy, If you are already making biodiesel for other uses I think I would use it in your 12/2 as well. I have a 12/2 with a 10kw head on the way and...
dave vandekieft
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Jul 27, 2006
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Not much to tell yet. I just have the 12/2 and the ST 12 KW head I have not started to set it up yet. It is in my dad's barn now until I get set for it at...
Bruce Lulfs
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I have the same situation with equipment. At dads farm we have 2 Farmall tractors with hydraulics and for stubborn things a 955 Cat track loader but we don’t...
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Jul 27, 2006
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Dave Thanks yes that msg. Is a help my truck is a 1 ton dodge 4x4 when I get to that point I will dig into your idea! Bruce & Sandy Toledo Ohio Area Biodiesel...
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Jul 27, 2006
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Dave, I don't know anything about the Dr Pepper methoh of making biodiesel. Please share or provide a link! ... would use it in your 12/2 as well. I have a...
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Jul 27, 2006
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It's a hokey soda bottle shaker method that doesn't make very good biodiesel. It's cool for doing demonstrations. We were using it in classes long before the...
Steve Spence
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Jul 27, 2006
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Wow! I had no idea as to the history of the Dr Pepper method, I’ve just seen it come up all over the web. I also haven’t heard much else about Tilly except...
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Jul 27, 2006
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I have heated the oil on a hot plate, and used a Bacardi bottle for shaking, but it takes a good 5 minutes or so for good completion. ASTM it is not, but it...
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Jul 27, 2006
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... Uh-oh, Tilley alert? A certain Tilley popped up a year or two ago in the EV world claiming to have built an electric DeLorean (no, seriously) which would...
Evan Tuer
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Jul 28, 2006
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Different Tilly. The one we are referring to calls himself "Squire" and claims a pending patent on the bottle process. But I digress, and I think I heard Ken...
Steve Spence
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Jul 28, 2006
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It always made good enough biodiesel when I used the pop bottle method, absolutely no reason why making 1 or 2 litres in a bottle should be any worse than 100...
Simon Wass
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Jul 27, 2006
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The original dr. pepper method did not specify proper heating temps, or proper agitation times, leaving it up to the user to guess. It was originally presented...
Steve Spence
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Does anyone in the group actually have a location for the full "Dr. Pepper Recipe "? I might give it a try to feed the Listeroid. Thanks, Kenn...
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www.biodieselcommunity.org <http://www.biodieselcommunity.org/> Be careful. Lots of excellent stuff on that site, but the Dr. Pepper thing isn't one of them. ...
Steve Spence
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List, The Lister engine runs perfectly adequately on straight vegetable oil or filtered waste vegetable oil. There is absolutely no reason to muck about with...
Ken Boak
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Jul 27, 2006
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I have 6000 hours on a detroit. The lister should do as well. Steve Spence Director, Green Trust http://www.green-trust.org...
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