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Re: [Lister_CSOG] Re: Heat the Injector ???

I would personally heat it with the Lister engine head. Running
your engine will develop over 2000 watts of heat

Try it out before you go too far.

The injector is threaded into a massive heatsink(your engine). 400
watts will easily
be sunk into the cast iron heads, cylinder and base. You can try a heater
wire wrapped around it, or a 1200 watt hot air gun. I don't think you
will just heat the injector. Not unless you remove it and set it on a
insulator.

Similar concept would be a magnetic engine heater only heating the oil
pan. Nope, It slowly brings up the entire engine temp over hours.

I used to clean my machine parts with a vapor degreaser. The parts came out
too hot to touch. If you set them on a flat surface of a bridgeport,
they were
almost immediately cool. You have a lot of surface touching with the
threaded
interface.

Carl


mirroromatic wrote:
>
>
> Mark,
>
> I've got some "cartridge heaters", little metal cylindrical pieces
> with a couple of leads out one end, they put out from 100 to 400
> watts, and they are small enough that I can clamp one of them to the
> stem of the injector.
>
> I don't *think* that there are any rubber or plastic parts in the
> injector itself, which lead me to this thought.
>
> I figure I can insulate the fuel lines but given how slowly the fuel
> moves, I didn't think the fuel would stay warm enough until it made it
> to the injector. The next idea was a heated line, but then I worried
> about excessive heat history in things like WVO, which can cause
> gumming and such. This finally was simplified to just heating the
> injector. Now the oil only needs to be warm enough to pump, yet it
> will be hot enough at the injector to give a good spray pattern.
>
> I'm going to give it a try soon - I'm just putting the fuel system
> together for WVO/WMO/Diesel...
>
> Thanks for the encouragement !
> Daryl
>
> Daryl,
>
> That's a perfectly sensible idea, but how're you gonna do it?
>
> Mark
>
> mirroromatic wrote:
> >
> > Folks,
> > I've got a Metro brand Listeroid, and am planing on running it on
> WMO and WVO.
> >
> > I've got a heating system for the oil worked out, but was wondering,
> given the small volume of oil used per hour, if heating the injector
> itself might be a good way to insure good atomization, if the oil were
> warm enough to go through the pump and piping.
> > I figure that there would be less heat history to the oil, helping
> to eliminate carbon and gel formation.
> >
> > Does anyone see any reason why not to try it ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Daryl
> >
> >
>
>




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Folks, I've got a Metro brand Listeroid, and am planing on running it on WMO and WVO. I've got a heating system for the oil worked out, but was wondering,...
mirroromatic
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Jul 8, 2009
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Daryl, That's a perfectly sensible idea, but how're you gonna do it? Mark mirroromatic wrote: Folks, I've got a Metro brand Listeroid, and am planing on...
Mark Walker
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Jul 8, 2009
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Mark, I've got some "cartridge heaters", little metal cylindrical pieces with a couple of leads out one end, they put out from 100 to 400 watts, and they are...
mirroromatic
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Jul 8, 2009
8:59 pm

I would personally heat it with the Lister engine head. Running your engine will develop over 2000 watts of heat Try it out before you go too far. The...
diyernh
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Jul 8, 2009
11:56 pm

Hi Daryl I run WVO in a 2002 VW Jetta TDI. I have 12 volt injection line heaters on the injection lines. Each injector line has about 4" of line heater taped...
t.brillinger
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Jul 9, 2009
12:59 pm

Daryl, A bit late coming to this discussion, but I use a clamp-on PTC (positive temperature coefficient) ceramic heater on the last 4" of fuel line just before...
Ken Boak
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Aug 13, 2009
1:37 pm

Hi Ken,Is that the only fuel heating you use, or do you heat it prior to the fuel pump as well? Cheers!Ade. ... From: Ken Boak <ken.boak@...> Subject:...
Ade
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Aug 13, 2009
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Ade, List, I used to have several turns of 8mm copper fuel pipe wound around the exhaust 90 bend on an earlier engine. That got ditched when I went to a newer...
Ken Boak
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Aug 13, 2009
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Ken, The pond fog generator thing is another of Babington's inventions from the 1960s and '70s. He called them nebulizers if I'm not mistaken. He was able to...
John Archibald
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Aug 15, 2009
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... Archibald has it right, I'd try a Babington style vaporizer first. The ultrasonic units are quite sensitive to temperature, and I'd guess that they...
mirroromatic
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Aug 16, 2009
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Daryl, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Ken knew about Babington before you did. He's not a novice there. Also, you missed my point, I was letting Ken know...
John Archibald
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