Hi friends,

recently longtime MC user Tim Bleiler sent me a very handy plugin "Script
Manager" and
allowed me to upload it here.

It provides a tiny palette with a list of all handler/function names of a
script, so you can
easily and quickly go to a specific handler.

You can find it in the "Extras" folder of the "Files" sections. Thanks a lot
Tim!


Best

Klaus Major

Hi friends,

I just uploded a new version of the MC IDE 2.9.

Due to the overwhelming feedback for the last 2 releases, I decided to
add
some features that I would like to see. So take it or leave it ;-)

Important hint!
This is the first version that requires engine >= 2.7!

I also added some screenshots to the "Pictures" section of the YAHOO
group site,
so you can take a look before you try.


  From the Read-Me file:
############################################
Changes MC IDE 2.9, january 2008

See some screenshots in the "pictures" section of the MC IDE YAHOO
group.

Script Editor
1. New listfield "Handlerlist" on the left side of the script editor
Lists all handlers and functions of the script.
Click to scroll to that handler/function.
Right-Click will popup a menu where you can sort the content of this
field.
Update on "mouseenter".

2. New menubutton "Handlerlist"
Provides a way to sort the content of fld "handlerlist", same as the
contextmenu.


Standalonebuilder
1. Complete support for OS X settings: Icons, "info.plist"
Select a plist-file or just enter some infos that will be put into the
default MC "info.plist".
2. All fields (for files) support Drag'n'Drop.
3. Save and load setting-files (simple text file with custom suffix
"*.xsabu")


Have fun!
############################################

Pleae take the time to check this version and report any inconvenince
(NO feature requests!)
to me immediately, thanks!


Best from germany

Klaus Major
klaus@...
http://www.major-k.de

Hi friends,

sorry, I completely forgot to add this info to the readme:

Default suffix for new stacks (and "save as...") is now "*.rev", to
make it compatible with the
dumb REV standalonebuilder, which only accepts stacks with this suffix!

Some prefer this one for making standalones.


Regards

Klaus Major
klaus@...
http://www.major-k.de

Hi friends,

just uploaded a new build (MC_IDE_2.9_II.zip).

Changes:
Removed a line of debug-code that put a number into the messages box
when entering the new list field "Handlerlist", sorry!
Added an option menu on the "look and Feel" TAB of the preferences
where you can set the default sorting for that field.

See the read me file for further info.


Best

Klaus Major
klaus@...
http://www.major-k.de

New version of the MC IDE online!

Changes MC IDE 2.9.1, february 2008
<h@...>, <klaus@...>

Hugh Senior and me changed/added/fixed:

Preferences
- Added a new tab "IDE Options" where you set colors, textfont and textsize
    for the new handlerlist and editor field of the script editor.

Script Editor
- The new HandlerList index is now resizable and colorized (optional).*
- Cosmetic changes made to the menubar.
- Added script colorization progress for large scripts over 5,000 words.

Font Chooser
- Stack is now truly resizable as exspected.
- Fixed setting the textfont! Now the font is set for all selected objects.

Misc.
- Changed win32 default font from Verdana 12 to Verdana 11.
- Included IDE version number in the title of MetaCard Menu Bar.

*The script for colorizing the handlerlsit should be fast enough for all
purposes!
Timing rresult on a MacMini 1.66 Ghz:
160 ms for a script with > 80,000 lines and > 3,000 handlers etc.


Have fun!

Klaus Major

This is of ocurse 2.9.1 and not 2.8.1 as I wrote in my last post, sorry.

Changes MC IDE 2.9.1 II, march 2008
Minor cosmetic changes and fixed an issue where colorization of the
handlerlist/script
field did not occur on Win32.

<h@...>, <klaus@...>
Hugh Senior and me changed/added/fixed:

Preferences
- Added a new tab "Script Editor" where you set colors, textfont and textsize
    for the new handlerlist and script field of the script editor.

Script Editor
- The new HandlerList index is now resizable and (can be) colorized*. Default =
true
- Cosmetic changes made to the menubar.
- Added script colorization progress for large scripts over 5,000 words.

Font Chooser
- Stack now resizes as exspected.
- Fixed setting textfont! Now the font is set for all selected objects.

Misc.
- Changed win32 default font from Verdana 12 to Verdana 11.
- Included IDE version number in the title of MetaCard Menu Bar.

*The script for colorizing the handlerlist should be fast enough for all
purposes!
Test results on a MacMini 1.66 Ghz:
160 ms for a script with > 80,000 lines and > 3,000 handlers etc.


Have fun!

Hi friends,

I just uploaded MC IDE 3.0b, which obviously should only be used with engines
>=3.x.


What's new:
Added support for the new engine based script colorization.
You can select a color scheme in the preferences.

Some minor cosmetic and functional fixes, see "Version history" for more info.
Please check this version and report all inconveniences, thanks, have fun!


Best

Klaus

Hi friends,

I just uploaded the new MC IDE 3.0.

Changes:

Stack "mctools"
- Will now check for engine >= 3.x and not start otherwise!

Stack "Font Chooser"
- Removed a bug where one could not change size and lineheight after setting the
font from "none" to something
else.
- Thanks to Jacqueline Landman Gray for the fix!

Stack "Control Browser"
- Removed the annoying "Cant find stack XYZ", that used to pop up when you close
the stack that was last displayed
in the "Control Browser"

Menu: Page setup...
- This will now display the OS page setup dialog.
- Hold the ALT-key to get the old MC page setup dialog.

Menu: Print
- This will now display the OS print dialog.
- Hold the ALT-key to print without dialog.

Script Editor
- Added support for the new engine based script colorization.
- Added an option button in the Preferences to select a color scheme.
- When changing the color scheme, all open script windows will be updated.

Importer
- The importer stack will not close automatically after importing an image.


Please report all inconveniences as you meet then ;-)


Have fun!

Best

Klaus

Hi all,

as mentioned in one of my last mails on the MC mailing list, I just uploaded a
preview of my DataGrid PlugIn for MC.

Check the "Files" section here on the site.

Usage:
1. Put it into your plugin folder and open it from there (or anyhwere else)
2. Select a stack in the popup button and create a grid in that stack.

The plugin will insert a frontsript and remove it when closing the stack.
If it works for you, I will integrate it into the MC property palette later.

That will mean that the next version of the MC IDE will only work with engines
>= 3.5!
Plaese be aware of this!

AND please be warned that I will NOT make the DataGrid look and appear as ONE
control
in the IDE like Rev does ;-)

Have fun!


Best

Klaus

Hi friends,

I completely forgot to mention that you will have to copy the stack
"revdatagridlibrary.rev" into the MetaCard application folder to make the plugin
work!

Since Trevor updates his lib very frequently (he is not Rev, you know ;-) don't
forget to also replace that stack very frequently :-)


Best

Klaus

Hi all,

while I am changing the IDE to support DataGrids and "reviving" the
disappeared shortcuts for debugging etc. in the Script Editor what about
adding some shortcuts to the menu?

Like:
CMD-N for "New Stack"

CMD-ALT-N for "Create Card"

CMD-ALT-BACKSPACE for "Celete card"

CMD-ALT-S for "Save as..."

CMD-ALT-R for "Revert"

CMD-ALT-I for "Import..."

CMD-ALT-P for the OS "Page setup..." dialog
Or is someone really still using the old MC page setup dialog?????


And whatever might come handy, proposals welcome!

Hey, we can have all these new shortcuts now in Rev >= 3 why not use
them? :-)
Any objections?


Best

Klaus

--
Klaus Major
klaus@...
http://www.major-k.de

Klaus Major wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> while I am changing the IDE to support DataGrids and "reviving" the
> disappeared shortcuts for debugging etc. in the Script Editor what about
> adding some shortcuts to the menu?
>
> Like:
> CMD-N for "New Stack"
>
> CMD-ALT-N for "Create Card"
>
> CMD-ALT-BACKSPACE for "Celete card"
>
> CMD-ALT-S for "Save as..."
>
> CMD-ALT-R for "Revert"
>
> CMD-ALT-I for "Import..."
>
> CMD-ALT-P for the OS "Page setup..." dialog
> Or is someone really still using the old MC page setup dialog?????
>
>
> And whatever might come handy, proposals welcome!
>
> Hey, we can have all these new shortcuts now in Rev >= 3 why not use
> them? :-)
> Any objections?

This is a wonderful idea. I only have one suggested change -- on Macs,
at least, some of the common commands (like "save as" and variations on
"new" anything, in this case, "new card") are typically done with the
shift key instead of option/alt key. Would there be any issues with
using Shift instead of Alt? My fingers are hard-coded to the shift key
after all these years.

--
Jacqueline Landman Gay         |     jacque@...
HyperActive Software           |     http://www.hyperactivesw.com

Hi friends,

I just uploaded version 3.5 of the MC IDE, which will require
engine version >= 3.0 just like the version before.
The new "DataGrid" feature can of course only be used/created
with engines >= 3.5!

Hope you like it!


Changes MC IDE 3.5:

Standalone builder:
- You can now point the STAB to any Rev "Standalone" apps on OS X.
- No need to rename the engines to "MetaCard" anymore.
- Thanks to Ken Ray for this suggestion.

Stack "Properties":
- Added "hoverIcon" and "disabledIcon" to button properties.
- Added checkbox "antialiased" to Graphic properties.
- Modified all "Tooltip" fields to support more than one line.
- Added complete support for DataGrids.
- Made the stack a little higher than before, but it's acceptable I think.

"Tools" and "MetaCard Menu Bar"
- Added button to create "DataGrid".
(You can simply copy this button to your own tools palette etc.!)
- A tooltip will show the current topstack to avoid surprises.

"MCTools"
- Added code for creation of DataGrids.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Important hint:
- This requires the stack "revdatagridlibrary.rev" to be in the MC app folder!
Sorry for this, but any attempt to ask the user to select that stack and/or to
supply
the filename to the (original Rev ;-) script ended with an engine crash?
See bug #7941 in the QC
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Scipt Editor
- Added support for shortcuts in "Script Editor" again.

Tariel suggested to change the default textsize on OS X to 11.
Noone disagreed and I did it :-)

Main Menu Bar
- Added some handy shortcuts to the MC menu bar: "File", "Edit" and "Tools".


Have fun!


Best

Klaus

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the MC_IDE
group.

   File        : /MC Install Guide for LC v4.5 [1080].pdf
   Uploaded by : h_flco <h@...>
   Description : How to get v4.5 working in the MC IDE

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MC_IDE/files/MC%20Install%20Guide%20for%20LC%20v4.\
5%20%5B1080%5D.pdf

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/forms/general.htmlfiles

Regards,

h_flco <h@...>

Use the Files link on the left for what to do to get the MC IDE working with
LiveCode v4.5 1080.

There are step by step guidance notes for both Windows and Mac OS X, along with
what to do if the result doesn't look right (as in no menubar or icons on the
Home stack in Mac OS X).

I have tried to be as comprehensive as possibe; if there are any improvements
and/or corrections to be made, do please let me know.

Hugh Senior
FLCo

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the MC_IDE
group.

   File        : /mctools4.zip
   Uploaded by : klaus_major <klaus@...>
   Description : Version 4 of the mctools stack

You can access this file at the URL:
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To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
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Regards,

klaus_major <klaus@...>

Hello friends of the lean IDE,

I am sorry to inform you that I will pass the MC IDE hat to someone else after
almost five years of fun :-)
To be honest, and that may be a bit hard to explain and understand, I cannot get
into the mood for working on the IDE anymore.

The good new is that Ken Ray will take over the POOBAH hat for the next time :-)

Here the changes, one of the last pieces, building standalones, is still missing
from the IDE:

"Variable Watcher"
- Added a new version of "Variable Watcher", thanks to Ken Ray!
Find the VW "ReadMe" in the ZIP packages with the tools stack.

"Message box":
- Added a vertical scrollbar

"MetaCard Menu Bar":
- Added backscript to not only move but also resize objects with the arrowkeys
- when pressing the ALT-key additionally.
- Thanks to Richard Gaskin for the scripts!

- Added function "mcPrefsFolder" to backscript which returns:
- Mac: specialFolderPath("preferences")
- Windows (>= 2000): specialFolderPath(26)
- Windows (95/96/97/98/99/ME): specialfolderpath("system")
- Linux: $HOME
- A subfolder "MetaCard" will be created there
- Hint: This function also returns the neccessary  trailing SLASH!
- We should use this folder for all new preferences from now on.

- Added a new Menu "Window", where you can easily switch windows.

Please find the ZIP archive under "Files"


Best

Klaus

Thanks for the handoff, Klaus... I will wear the Poobah Hat with pride! <grin>

Just FYI to all - I won't get a chance to do much with the IDE until after the
LiveCode conference coming up next month, but feel free to post any bugs or
suggestions you have for the future IDE (keep in mind that we want to keep MC
lean and mean, so things that enhance efficiency and don't bog down the IDE are
best).

Oh, and if you run into anything in the new VW, let me know as well.

Thanks!

Ken

--- In MC_IDE@yahoogroups.com, "klaus_major" <klaus@...> wrote:
>
> Hello friends of the lean IDE,
>
> I am sorry to inform you that I will pass the MC IDE hat to someone else after
almost five years of fun :-)
> To be honest, and that may be a bit hard to explain and understand, I cannot
get into the mood for working on the IDE anymore.
>
> The good new is that Ken Ray will take over the POOBAH hat for the next time
:-)
>
> Here the changes, one of the last pieces, building standalones, is still
missing from the IDE:
>
> "Variable Watcher"
> - Added a new version of "Variable Watcher", thanks to Ken Ray!
> Find the VW "ReadMe" in the ZIP packages with the tools stack.
>
> "Message box":
> - Added a vertical scrollbar
>
> "MetaCard Menu Bar":
> - Added backscript to not only move but also resize objects with the arrowkeys
> - when pressing the ALT-key additionally.
> - Thanks to Richard Gaskin for the scripts!
>
> - Added function "mcPrefsFolder" to backscript which returns:
> - Mac: specialFolderPath("preferences")
> - Windows (>= 2000): specialFolderPath(26)
> - Windows (95/96/97/98/99/ME): specialfolderpath("system")
> - Linux: $HOME
> - A subfolder "MetaCard" will be created there
> - Hint: This function also returns the neccessary  trailing SLASH!
> - We should use this folder for all new preferences from now on.
>
> - Added a new Menu "Window", where you can easily switch windows.
>
> Please find the ZIP archive under "Files"
>
>
> Best
>
> Klaus
>

> On 3/26/11 9:55 AM, klaus_major wrote:
>> Hello friends of the lean IDE,
>>
>> I am sorry to inform you that I will pass the MC IDE hat to someone
>> else after almost five years of fun :-) To be honest, and that may be
>> a bit hard to explain and understand, I cannot get into the mood for
>> working on the IDE anymore.
>
> You've done a wonderful job, Klaus, and I think 5 years is a lot of
> responsibility for anyone. Thank you for all your work and dedication.
>
> Ken, welcome to Poohbah-hood! I know you'll do a fantastic job.

Thanks, Jacque! I'm looking forward to it...

:-)

Ken

> How does one marry this latest version of the MC IDE to the latest Livecode
> engine?

You can follow the same steps as outlined in the "MC Install Guide for LC
v4.5 [1080].pdf" in the Files section.

Ken

I'd like to take an informal poll to get an idea of how many people are
using the MC IDE, and to what extent. So if you could just reply to this
email with your answers to the 6 questions below, that would be great.

Thanks!

Ken

------------ METACARD IDE POLL -----------

Development (up to, but not including standalone/web/mobile deployment)
===========
1) What percent of the time do you use the MC IDE for LiveCode development,
and what percent do you use the LiveCode IDE?

2) If you use the LiveCode IDE at all, what do you use it for, and why?

Deployment
==========
I'm aware that the current standalone builder in the MC IDE doesn't work
with the latest engines. With that in mind:

1) Do you build standalones with the MC IDE at all (either because you're
using an older version of MC or because you made your own standalone
builder)?

2) Do you build standalones with the LiveCode IDE? If so, is it because you
can't with the MC IDE or because you prefer the LiveCode IDE? If you prefer
it, then why do you prefer it?

3) What percent of your projects are to be deployed to the web plugin?

4) What percent of your projects are to be deployed to a mobile device?

------------ END POLL -----------

Thanks for your answers! It will help drive the direction of the IDE...

--- In MC_IDE@yahoogroups.com, Ken Ray <kray@...> wrote:
>
> I'd like to take an informal poll to get an idea of how many people are
> using the MC IDE, and to what extent. So if you could just reply to this
> email with your answers to the 6 questions below, that would be great.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ken
>
> ------------ METACARD IDE POLL -----------
>
> Development (up to, but not including standalone/web/mobile deployment)
> ===========
> 1) What percent of the time do you use the MC IDE for LiveCode development,
> and what percent do you use the LiveCode IDE?

MC 99%
LC 1%

> 2) If you use the LiveCode IDE at all, what do you use it for, and why?

Dictionary look up and stanndAlone building only.

> Deployment
> ==========
> I'm aware that the current standalone builder in the MC IDE doesn't work
> with the latest engines. With that in mind:
>
> 1) Do you build standalones with the MC IDE at all (either because you're
> using an older version of MC or because you made your own standalone
> builder)?

No. I let LC do it.

> 2) Do you build standalones with the LiveCode IDE? If so, is it because you
> can't with the MC IDE or because you prefer the LiveCode IDE? If you prefer
> it, then why do you prefer it?

Yes. Happy to use LC to do this task. It's fast, a relatively painless process
and keeps the MC IDE slimmer.


> 3) What percent of your projects are to be deployed to the web plugin?

None at present, only because I'm still waiting for a self-updating version.

> 4) What percent of your projects are to be deployed to a mobile device?


0%


> ------------ END POLL -----------
>
> Thanks for your answers! It will help drive the direction of the IDE...


Let LC do the standAlone building, Ken... That's what it's for and there's no
need to bloat MC or spend time unnecessarily duplicating the LC StandAlone
wizard that the dev team maintain anyway. Unless you have a burning desire, of
course!

Two things we could usefully have in the MC IDE:

- Object dimensions, editable. NOT a geometry manager, just a simple
width/height for the selected object. Currently only imgs have this but we need
it for flds, btns and grcs as well. I keep meaning to include it in my copy and
never get around to it!

- Fix bug where the img id cannot be changed within a group.

Hugh

Hugh Senior
FLCo

Just a quick reminder - email sent to "MC_IDE-owner@yahoogroups.com" will go
directly to me and not go to Yahoo Groups message area, so make sure you
send emails to "MC_IDE@yahoogroups.com".

I'll forward the QuickPoll responses I received to the group message area so
we can all see each others' responses...

Ken

> From: Ian Gordon <ian@...>
> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 14:17:41 -0400
> To: <MC_IDE-owner@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [MC_IDE] Quick Poll
>
> Hi Ken
>
> Just using it for old projects.
>
> Any other answers from me wouldn't be worthwhile given the lack of
> time for mc/lc development lately.
>
> I just maintain a bunch of apps right now, and use both lc and mc ide
> (with an old mc even...)
>
> Thanks for your community support.
>
> Ian
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Ken Ray <kray@...> wrote:
>> I'd like to take an informal poll to get an idea of how many people are
>> using the MC IDE, and to what extent. So if you could just reply to this
>> email with your answers to the 6 questions below, that would be great.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> ------------ METACARD IDE POLL -----------
>>
>> Development (up to, but not including standalone/web/mobile deployment)
>> ===========
>> 1) What percent of the time do you use the MC IDE for LiveCode development,
>> and what percent do you use the LiveCode IDE?
>>
>> 2) If you use the LiveCode IDE at all, what do you use it for, and why?
>>
>> Deployment
>> ==========
>> I'm aware that the current standalone builder in the MC IDE doesn't work
>> with the latest engines. With that in mind:
>>
>> 1) Do you build standalones with the MC IDE at all (either because you're
>> using an older version of MC or because you made your own standalone
>> builder)?
>>
>> 2) Do you build standalones with the LiveCode IDE? If so, is it because you
>> can't with the MC IDE or because you prefer the LiveCode IDE? If you prefer
>> it, then why do you prefer it?
>>
>> 3) What percent of your projects are to be deployed to the web plugin?
>>
>> 4) What percent of your projects are to be deployed to a mobile device?
>>
>> ------------ END POLL -----------
>>
>> Thanks for your answers! It will help drive the direction of the IDE...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>

------ End of Forwarded Message

------ Forwarded Message
> From: "Vokey, John" <vokey@...>
> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:11:47 -0600
> To: <MC_IDE-owner@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [MC_IDE] Quick Poll
>
>
> On 2011-03-27, at 12:09 PM, Ken Ray wrote:
>
>> I'd like to take an informal poll to get an idea of how many people are
>> using the MC IDE, and to what extent. So if you could just reply to this
>> email with your answers to the 6 questions below, that would be great.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> ------------ METACARD IDE POLL -----------
>>
>> Development (up to, but not including standalone/web/mobile deployment)
>> ===========
>> 1) What percent of the time do you use the MC IDE for LiveCode development,
>> and what percent do you use the LiveCode IDE?
> 100% and 0%, respectively
>>
>> 2) If you use the LiveCode IDE at all, what do you use it for, and why?
> Never use it
>>
>> Deployment
>> ==========
>> I'm aware that the current standalone builder in the MC IDE doesn't work
>> with the latest engines. With that in mind:
>>
>> 1) Do you build standalones with the MC IDE at all (either because you're
>> using an older version of MC or because you made your own standalone
>> builder)?
>
> No; I run all my code as stacks
>>
>> 2) Do you build standalones with the LiveCode IDE? If so, is it because you
>> can't with the MC IDE or because you prefer the LiveCode IDE? If you prefer
>> it, then why do you prefer it?
>
> I Never build standalones.
>>
>> 3) What percent of your projects are to be deployed to the web plugin?
>
> At this time, none.
>>
>> 4) What percent of your projects are to be deployed to a mobile device?
>
> None.
>>
>> ------------ END POLL -----------
>>
>> Thanks for your answers! It will help drive the direction of the IDE...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>

------ End of Forwarded Message

> From: "Dijkstra, W." <w.dijkstra@...>
> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 18:36:51 +0000
> To: "MC_IDE-owner@yahoogroups.com" <MC_IDE-owner@yahoogroups.com>, MC IDE
> <MC_IDE@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Quick Poll
>
>
> ________________________________
> Van: MC_IDE@yahoogroups.com [MC_IDE@yahoogroups.com] namens Ken Ray
> [kray@...]
> Verzonden: zondag 27 maart 2011 20:09
> Aan: MC_IDE@yahoogroups.com
> Onderwerp: [MC_IDE] Quick Poll
>
>
>
> I'd like to take an informal poll to get an idea of how many people are
> using the MC IDE, and to what extent. So if you could just reply to this
> email with your answers to the 6 questions below, that would be great.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ken
>
> ------------ METACARD IDE POLL -----------
>
> Development (up to, but not including standalone/web/mobile deployment)
> ===========
> 1) What percent of the time do you use the MC IDE for LiveCode development,
> and what percent do you use the LiveCode IDE?
>
> MC: 95%
>
> LiveCode: 5 %
>
> 2) If you use the LiveCode IDE at all, what do you use it for, and why?
>
> Consulting the dictionary (for self-evident reasons)
>
> Deployment
> ==========
> I'm aware that the current standalone builder in the MC IDE doesn't work
> with the latest engines. With that in mind:
>
> 1) Do you build standalones with the MC IDE at all (either because you're
> using an older version of MC or because you made your own standalone
> builder)?
>
> No
>
> 2) Do you build standalones with the LiveCode IDE? If so, is it because you
> can't with the MC IDE or because you prefer the LiveCode IDE? If you prefer
> it, then why do you prefer it?
>
> Yes, because I can't with LC (but I prefer MC, because it's easier and faster)
>
> 3) What percent of your projects are to be deployed to the web plugin?
>
> 0%
>
> 4) What percent of your projects are to be deployed to a mobile device?
>
> 0%
>
> ------------ END POLL -----------
>
> Thanks for your answers! It will help drive the direction of the IDE...
>
> Wil Dijkstra
>
>

------ End of Forwarded Message

> From: Björnke von Gierke <bvg@...>
> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 20:51:38 +0200
> To: <MC_IDE-owner@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [MC_IDE] Quick Poll
>
>> Development (up to, but not including standalone/web/mobile deployment)
>> ===========
>> 1) What percent of the time do you use the MC IDE for LiveCode development,
>> and what percent do you use the LiveCode IDE?
>
> 0% MC
>
>> 2) If you do not use the METACARD IDE at all, why do you not use it?
>
> My main problem with the MC IDE is the lack of proper UI. I do like the idea
> of a less intrusive IDE, and I do like the idea of alternatives, only this
> particular alternative is not made for me. If I could (for example) copy the
> LC tools pallette and message box over to the MC IDE _seamlessly_ that'd help
> a lot. Sadly that's RunRevs problem and not something MC can solve by itself.
> Now and then I think about making my own IDE, and MC is of course a great way
> to look at how others have thought about it, and/or a starting point to build
> uppon.
>
>> Deployment
>> ==========
>> I'm aware that the current standalone builder in the MC IDE doesn't work
>> with the latest engines. With that in mind:
>>
>> 1) Do you build standalones with the MC IDE at all (either because you're
>> using an older version of MC or because you made your own standalone
>> builder)?
>
> Not Applicable
>
>>
>> 2) Do you build standalones with the LiveCode IDE? If so, is it because you
>> can't with the MC IDE or because you prefer the LiveCode IDE? If you prefer
>> it, then why do you prefer it?
>
> As far as Standalones go, I find the LC approach pretty sweet, with the caveat
> of those horrible IDE properties and the need to scrub them whenever a
> standalone is built. I don't actually know any other technical detail, but the
> UI is decent.
>
>> 3) What percent of your projects are to be deployed to the web plugin?
>
> Zero
>
>> 4) What percent of your projects are to be deployed to a mobile device?
>
> Zero

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> From: Klaus Major <klaus@...>
> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 22:19:03 +0200
> To: <MC_IDE-owner@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [MC_IDE] Quick Poll
>
> Hi Ken,
>
>> I'd like to take an informal poll to get an idea of how many people are
>> using the MC IDE, and to what extent. So if you could just reply to this
>> email with your answers to the 6 questions below, that would be great.
>
> Sure!
>
>> Thanks!
>> Ken
>> ------------ METACARD IDE POLL -----------
>>
>> Development (up to, but not including standalone/web/mobile deployment)
>> ===========
>> 1) What percent of the time do you use the MC IDE for LiveCode development,
>> and what percent do you use the LiveCode IDE?
>
> 95% MC
> 5% LC
>
>> 2) If you use the LiveCode IDE at all, what do you use it for, and why?
>> Deployment
>> ==========
>> I'm aware that the current standalone builder in the MC IDE doesn't work
>> with the latest engines. With that in mind:
>> 1) Do you build standalones with the MC IDE at all (either because you're
>> using an older version of MC or because you made your own standalone
>> builder)?
>
> No.
>
>> 2) Do you build standalones with the LiveCode IDE? If so, is it because you
>> can't with the MC IDE or because you prefer the LiveCode IDE? If you prefer
>> it, then why do you prefer it?
>
> Because I can't with MC.
>
>> 3) What percent of your projects are to be deployed to the web plugin?
>
> 0%
>
>> 4) What percent of your projects are to be deployed to a mobile device?
>
> 10%
>
>> ------------ END POLL -----------
>> Thanks for your answers! It will help drive the direction of the IDE...
>
> Thank you, Ken!
>
>
> Best
>
> Klaus
> --
> Klaus Major
> http://www.major-k.de
> klaus@...
>

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> From: Adam Prall <adam.prall@...>
> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:31:43 -1000
> To: "MC_IDE-owner@yahoogroups.com" <MC_IDE-owner@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [MC_IDE] Quick Poll
>
> Hi although I don't currently use it at all, every once in a while I check in
> with the code because it matches my internal scripting philosophy...
>
>
> {Sent using Thinkingman.com AI Messenger}
>
> On Mar 27, 2011, at 8:09, Ken Ray <kray@...> wrote:
>
>> I'd like to take an informal poll to get an idea of how many people are
>> using the MC IDE, and to what extent. So if you could just reply to this
>> email with your answers to the 6 questions below, that would be great.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> ------------ METACARD IDE POLL -----------
>>
>> Development (up to, but not including standalone/web/mobile deployment)
>> ===========
>> 1) What percent of the time do you use the MC IDE for LiveCode development,
>> and what percent do you use the LiveCode IDE?
>>
>> 2) If you use the LiveCode IDE at all, what do you use it for, and why?
>>
>> Deployment
>> ==========
>> I'm aware that the current standalone builder in the MC IDE doesn't work
>> with the latest engines. With that in mind:
>>
>> 1) Do you build standalones with the MC IDE at all (either because you're
>> using an older version of MC or because you made your own standalone
>> builder)?
>>
>> 2) Do you build standalones with the LiveCode IDE? If so, is it because you
>> can't with the MC IDE or because you prefer the LiveCode IDE? If you prefer
>> it, then why do you prefer it?
>>
>> 3) What percent of your projects are to be deployed to the web plugin?
>>
>> 4) What percent of your projects are to be deployed to a mobile device?
>>
>> ------------ END POLL -----------
>>
>> Thanks for your answers! It will help drive the direction of the IDE...
>>
>>

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> From: geradamas <geradamas@...>
> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 18:50:05 -0000
> To: Ken Ray <kray@...>
> Subject: Re: Quick Poll
>
>
>
> --- In MC_IDE@yahoogroups.com, Ken Ray <kray@...> wrote:
>>
>> I'd like to take an informal poll to get an idea of how many people are
>> using the MC IDE, and to what extent. So if you could just reply to this
>> email with your answers to the 6 questions below, that would be great.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> ------------ METACARD IDE POLL -----------
>>
>> Development (up to, but not including standalone/web/mobile deployment)
>> ===========
>> 1) What percent of the time do you use the MC IDE for LiveCode development,
>> and what percent do you use the LiveCode IDE?
>
> I use the MC very occasionally when I get fed up of the clutter of the
> Livecode IDE.
>
>>
>> 2) If you use the LiveCode IDE at all, what do you use it for, and why?
>
> Ongoing development of software for digitisation of Sanskrit texts.
>
> Devlopment of EFL content delivery and reinforcement programs for my EFL
> school for Primary Level children in Bulgaria (deployment is 100% on Linux).
>
>>
>> Deployment
>> ==========
>> I'm aware that the current standalone builder in the MC IDE doesn't work
>> with the latest engines. With that in mind:
>>
>> 1) Do you build standalones with the MC IDE at all (either because you're
>> using an older version of MC or because you made your own standalone
>> builder)?
>
> Yes; from time to time I build Linux PPC standalones with MC as in August of
> this year I will collect 4 iMac G3 computers on whch I intend to run Ubuntu
> PPC for my school. Therefore it is important for me to ensure that all my EFL
> prgrams will function properly with Linux PPC.
>
> In fact, as far as I am concerned, the loss of engines for standalones other
> than those for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux is one of Livecode's greatest
> failings, as not all of us are obsessed with endless upgrades, and can see
> both an economic case and an ecological case for continuing to use old,
> functional machines and their operating systems as long as is feasibly
> possible.
>
>>
>> 2) Do you build standalones with the LiveCode IDE? If so, is it because you
>> can't with the MC IDE or because you prefer the LiveCode IDE? If you prefer
>> it, then why do you prefer it?
>
> Only really because I discovered RunRev/LC before I discovered Metacard, so I
> am used to the RR/LC standalone builder.
>
>>
>> 3) What percent of your projects are to be deployed to the web plugin?
>
> None.
>
>>
>> 4) What percent of your projects are to be deployed to a mobile device?
>
> None.
>
>>
>> ------------ END POLL -----------
>>
>> Thanks for your answers! It will help drive the direction of the IDE...
>>
>
>

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