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Re: help needed for MEG tuning

--- In MEG_builders@yahoogroups.com, "ccool_j" <ccool_j@...> wrote:
>...
> As you said, one of the important factor is to get the magnetic field
> from the magnet all contained in the core. Which is why (as far as I
> know) Metglas core should be better. Because of the huge magnetic
> permeability of these kind of core...
> I have been told that the magic would be happening when the core start
> to saturate...
> Anyway, to prove this "partial saturation" thesis, I'll need some
> better electronics, becaus mine is burning when the back emf from the
> input coils create voltage over 100Volts... (wich is about 30 volts in)
>
> I'll try to get something that works at 500 volts and I'll tell you
> how it goes. With that kind of electronics, I'll be able to reach the
> optimal +70 Volts that Bearden was talking about.
>
> Ccool
>
As the core goes into saturation, the field will be less contained in
it, so if good things happen when saturation occurs, it refutes the
idea that high permiability and low field fringing is needed. Also,
note that there are several formulations of metglas materials.
"Distributed gap" is another way of saying reduced permiability.

You can get the saturation you want without higher voltages, just
reduce the frequency. The magnetic field depends on the curent not the
voltage, so increasing the time and leaving the voltage constant
increases the current thru the inductor. If the EMF on trun off
(flyback) is too high, it is because of lack of load on the secondary
which should be tightly coupled to the core (atleast if it is to have
low fringing fields)









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Hello guys, I'm new to this group, but it seems that some of you have some experience with the MEG, so that's why I'm posting here the details of my...
ccool_j
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Apr 20, 2006
4:49 am

... Have you tried lower pulse width with a deadtime in betwwen? Say something like 2 x 40% with 10% OFF. Mark Jordan...
Mark Jordan
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Apr 20, 2006
4:51 pm

No. Never tried....
Mark Jordan
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Apr 21, 2006
3:46 pm

I have'nt tried either... As far as I know about the meg, what is important is to get fast switching. Faster you go, the better it should be (as said in the ...
ccool_j
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Apr 26, 2006
12:19 pm

No, because my meg was started as a project with some high school kids last year... we got it built and just started testing and the school year ended. By then...
Brent Selleck
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Apr 22, 2006
4:37 am

... the real ... Bearden told ... but the ... beyond the ... secondaries was ... the key ... the core ... errant ... it's so ... Thank you for your insight on...
ccool_j
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Apr 26, 2006
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... As the core goes into saturation, the field will be less contained in it, so if good things happen when saturation occurs, it refutes the idea that high...
ey930
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May 5, 2006
1:54 pm

Hi, it's me again, I have some updates and some graphics. Theses graphics show one of my biggest challenge into understanding and making work the MEG. This...
ccool_j
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Apr 26, 2006
12:19 pm

In looking at your output waveforms, it appears that your MEG is still a "Biased transformer". Note the skewed output waveform. Try changing the input...
Norm Fletcher
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Jun 4, 2006
3:15 pm

You point out one the more interesting aspects to all of this... the ability to measure what's really going on... I sell robotic lawn mowers that use a ...
Brent Selleck
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Apr 26, 2006
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On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 05:56:48 -0000 "Norm Fletcher" <fletchmo47@...> wrote ... I have 2 comments, for which I hope to see a reply: Since the core is...
Wayne Robey
ey930
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Jun 8, 2006
2:30 pm

... secondary on it's leg. You can see this clearly in old TV fly-back transformers. Could this secondary resonance be what you are tuning for? OK Let me see...
Norm Fletcher
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Jul 19, 2006
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Very well said.... and I await your results eagerly... ... From: "Norm Fletcher" <fletchmo47@...> To: <MEG_builders@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday,...
Brent Selleck
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