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Re: Secret to MEG's "free energy" recently discovered

Hi richar18,

The energy contained in the magnetic field of a magnetized core is not
represented by the energy consumed by the coil/circuit. For example,
consider material with twice the permeability & same dimensions and
you'll see it requires half the energy to bring such material to the
same magnetic field intensity.

Yes there is a change in specific heat due to MCE, but it is known
this can increase as well as decrease depending on the material and
conditions.

You cannot discount the fact there is energy release when the magnetic
moments align.

I'll add further comments below :

--- In MEG_builders@yahoogroups.com, "richar18" <richar18@...> wrote:
> You know, it appears as if nature may have fooled us into incorrectly
> calculating the heat energy of the iron after magnetization. Read on
> to find out why.
>
> According to my sources on the subject, the magnetocaloric effect is
> due to a reduction in degrees of freedom of the iron molecules in the
> presence of a magnetic field, which causes an increase in entropy
> (and therefore temperature). The decrease in temp when the field is
> removed is due to the opposite. This mechanism is important to
> understand, because it gives a hint as to what is going on in the
> system from an energetic point of view.

The guy from NASA disagrees with the above theory and agreed with my
theory as to why it cools. He clarified that the vibrating atoms knock
the magnetic moments out of alignment, which requires energy and cools
the material.

Furthermore, your above theory does not work on nanocrystalline
magnetic materials, which indeed are saturated on the domain level,
but still exhibit strong MCE roughly 10,000 to 100,000 times stronger
than ferrites, iron, and other magnetic materials, and only 1/4th of
the best Gd alloys, which my theory all predicts.

If I am in error then please point out the error.

Regards,
Paul Lowrance






Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:44 pm

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Hello everybody!I'm new into this MEG stuff,so I need some help.. I have finnaly acquired some parts for MEG(that would be an magnet and an core operating on...
mcpingvin
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Oct 16, 2006
3:44 pm

@All I have strong evidence that non-electrical magnetic cores will not exhibit the "free energy." Therefore most ferrite cores will not work. Iron powder...
softwarelabus
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Oct 16, 2006
7:20 pm

Hi Paul, interesting stuff. In looking into it a little further, I also see that Harold Aspden mentions the magnetocaloric effect as a part of his work. It...
richar18
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Oct 17, 2006
11:15 pm

Hi richar18, There are several methods. Method #1 is the easiest. Normally MCE (magnetocaloric effect) heats up, cools down, etc. In electrical conductors such...
softwarelabus
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Oct 18, 2006
4:11 am

This reply is only geared towards the comment regarding the energy it takes to magnetize with respect to permeability. I will respond to the excess MCE energy...
richar18
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Oct 19, 2006
3:10 pm

richar18, You made another math error. I meticulously proved this last year. Any circuit simulation program will show you. If you double the permeability of...
softwarelabus
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Oct 19, 2006
7:41 pm

Yes, you are correct with respect to an internal field. However, I was under the impression that it is not the internal field that the MCE is reliant upo, but...
richar18
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Oct 20, 2006
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"An applied magnetic field forces the atoms into alignment, reducing the system's heat capacity and causing it to expel energy" More proof that the decrease in...
richar18
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Oct 20, 2006
4:43 am

(Note: Apologies for this message being delayed - The moderators took the weekend off) Hi Brandon, I would appreciate it if you could please just acknowledge...
softwarelabus
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Oct 23, 2006
4:11 am

... took the weekend off) No problem moderator. Brandon and I have been exchanging emails. I wanted to limit the conversation because it's taking far too much ...
softwarelabus
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Oct 25, 2006
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You know, it appears as if nature may have fooled us into incorrectly calculating the heat energy of the iron after magnetization. Read on to find out why. ...
richar18
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Oct 18, 2006
4:12 am

Hi richar18, The energy contained in the magnetic field of a magnetized core is not represented by the energy consumed by the coil/circuit. For example, ...
softwarelabus
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Oct 19, 2006
2:36 am

Sorry, I meant the entropy of the sample TRIES to DECREASE when the field is applied. However if the conditions are adiabatic, the entropy does not change due...
richar18
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Oct 19, 2006
2:38 am

Hi richar18, You have math errors in one of your previous posts. First, the energy in a magnetic field is B*V/(2*u0) B is in Tesla's, V=cubic meters, u0 is...
softwarelabus
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Oct 19, 2006
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Sorry Paul, My name is Brandon. Didnt mean to ignore you, anonymity has become a habit when posting on these groups. I need to keep this short I am at work. ...
richar18
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Oct 19, 2006
5:01 pm

Paul, take a look at this link: http://flux.aps.org/meetings/YR00/MAR00/abs/S5910006.html It is the abstract of a meeting of scientists representing the Ames ...
richar18
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Oct 19, 2006
6:34 pm

I found further evidence to help my argument regarding the reduction in specific heat cancelling any possible excess energy gains due to MCE. Read the...
richar18
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Oct 19, 2006
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Hi Brandon, ... Thanks! It took, what 4 replies to get your attention, lol. No problem! [snip] ... Understood. I think you'll find that you forgot the 1/2...
softwarelabus
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Oct 20, 2006
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(Note: Apologies for this message being delayed - The moderators took the weekend off) Your explanation of the effect does not point to anything excess. I am...
richar18
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