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Re: [MEG_builders] Permanent magnet flip-flop: with possible with half gainer

Hi Vince,

Could you describe your setup a bit more, I have the impression that:

Your anvile is ferromagnetic (as opposed to say a brick)?
Your magnets dimensions Length >> Width >> Thickness?
Your magnets are polarised through the tickness?

What is the magnetic material and how might it have been manufactured
(consider any annealing)?
Are both halves flipping?


As you would know, permanent magnets can be induced to flip polarities
along their axis (or around a number of axis in some materials). As i
see it, the mechanical shock of the chisel (or snap) would provide
enough of this force. If this is the case then impacting the magnet
halves back together with enough force may again flip their
polarities.

It might be worth studying up on what might be happening at domain or
atomic level but I don't know much to help there.

Cheers
Ragman





2009/3/11 Vincent J Cataldi <vincent.cataldi@...>:
> I found: Permanent magnet flip-flop: with possible with half gainer
> Searching for reversal: need to understand the cause - please help if you
> can
> I have stumbled into a curious phenomena that I suspect may glean insight
> into magnet behavior which can be tapped to cause a usable and novel
> approach to an instant change induced through a coil without the need for a
> spark gap or use of electronics which will be useless under the duress of an
> EMP from or own SUN or someones weapon.
> I have no idea what the heck is happening, and I need a way to undo it; so I
> need to get an answer as to what the Heck is happening before I can hope to
> reverse to back; and then cycle the process physically or virtually.
> Problem is that I can find nothing about this in any reading so far, nor
> through any experts - I am surprised that I can not find anyone who knows
> this happens - but Test away - it is easy to prove this curious behavior of
> magnets.
> Take a bar magnet - position so North is Up and South is Down.  Now use an
> anvil, hammer, and a chisel to gently snap the magnet in half.  (works using
> a thin magnet and snapping with fingers gently too) The result is a shock to
> me:
> At the center (of the upper piece which was north at the top) - at the break
> - the north field jumps (instantly?) to the center and so the top of the
> upper half is now flipped south - it flipped. It may have flipped
> instantly.
> The bottom half does the same thing in reverse: the south jumps to the
> center (top of new lower piece) and the bottom most edge which was a south
> field, is now a north field.  I suspect a pair of pickup coils will catch an
> instantly induced pules from this Physical event.
> I think in my last test, breaking a magnet in half showed a top (upper side)
> to bottom (east to west perhaps) flip-flop too; but not sure.  This is the
> half gainer I refer to - but is is confusing and I want to share and ask for
> cooperation before asking Tom Bearden or PJK (as in PJKBook.pdf) for help,
> and before I run out of big magnets to split in half.
> My next test is to eliminate all sudden blows to the magnet, and slowly cut
> the magnet in half - when will it flip?  ... at the center as I cut down
> through through it, or 3/4 through, or at the instant the last piece is
> severed?
> What about half way cut down, and then half way perpendicular to the first
> cut resulting in a -1./2 and -1/4 = 1/4 the original bar.  Or, what about a
> hole drilled in and through the center, and increasing the hole until the
> smallest possible four filaments remain to hold the original physically
> intact.  Then, if not yet flipped, sever two opposite corners and leave the
> other two, then another corner.  When and why does it flip and can this
> property be reversed virtually and be made to do so repeatedly?
> Has any one ever played with this concept to know what the effect would be
> inside an induction pickup coil.  The ability to reverse this process
> physically is unlikely, but a virtual sever and a virtual weld might be
> possible using soft iron and electromagnets.
> Sorry if this is well explored and discussed - I am new to group - but well
> motivated.
> Help if you can - Thank for any comments.
>
> Vince
>



Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:52 pm

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Vincent, I did some experiments with the "SMOT" magnetic ramp many years back and it called for very long and thin magnets. I was able to forcefully tape...
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What you describe is exactly what physics books have described for centuries. Any energy you could generate with this scheme would come out of the energy it...
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Hi Vince, Could you describe your setup a bit more, I have the impression that: Your anvile is ferromagnetic (as opposed to say a brick)? Your magnets...
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... Vince, Your posting has gotten a lot of potential answers to your question about magnet reversal and I hope that you find your answer within them. I...
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