Hello,

I already found a thread about this error message, but help given
there doesn't fit to my problem, so I try with setting up a new
topic.

I receive eumetsat weather data since two days, using eku-token and
tellicast-software on reception pc with skystar2. On reception pc I
installed MSG Data manager ans MSG Animator (both trial versions
yet).

After coping first setup-problems (ip-number of DVB-Card etc), it
worked fine for some hours. Data was received, assimilated by MSG
DataManager and animated by MSG Animator. But since yesterday, there
are error messages without end and only very few data is processed.

Some lines of the MSG Data manager log file:

+++++++++++++++++++++++
2008-03-02 07:06:44      Error processing file
2008-03-02 06:42:28.000  L-000-MTP___-MET7________-00_7_057E-
000004___-200803020700-C_
2008-03-02 07:06:44      Error processing file
2008-03-02 06:42:30.000  L-000-MTP___-MET7________-06_4_057E-
000002___-200803020700-C_
2008-03-02 07:06:44      Error processing file
2008-03-02 06:42:29.000  L-000-MTP___-MET7________-11_5_057E-
000002___-200803020700-C_
2008-03-02 07:06:44      Error processing file
2008-03-02 06:42:42.000  H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-VIS006___-
000008___-200803020630-C_
2008-03-02 07:06:44      Error processing file
2008-03-02 06:42:43.000  H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-IR_016___-
000008___-200803020630-C_
2008-03-02 07:06:44      Error processing file
2008-03-02 06:42:43.000  H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-IR_039___-
000008___-200803020630-C_
2008-03-02 07:06:44      Error processing file
2008-03-02 06:42:44.000  H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-IR_108___-
000008___-200803020630-C_
2008-03-02 07:06:44      Error processing file
2008-03-02 06:42:46.000  H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-IR_087___-
000008___-200803020630-C_
2008-03-02 06:42:46.000  H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-IR_120___-
000008___-200803020630-C_
2008-03-02 06:42:45.000  H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-VIS008___-
000008___-200803020630-C_
2008-03-02 07:06:44      Error processing file
2008-03-02 06:42:49.000  H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-WV_062___-
000008___-200803020630-C_
2008-03-02 07:06:44      Error processing file
2008-03-02 06:42:52.000  H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-WV_073___-
000008___-200803020630-C_
+++++++++++++++++++++


And so on, and so on...

Operating pc has full access to reception folder. Signal strengh of
Sat-Signal could be better (about 5dB), but seems to be sufficient,
BER is 0.

Tellicast-Software Log shows some interrupted transmissions, some
lines:

++++++++
MSG:2008-03-02 07:47:00.296:Connected to data channel `EUMETSAT Data
Channel 2', address 224.223.222.21:2511 (invited)
MSG:2008-03-02 07:47:09.296:All 1 files of filelist 47ca5b6b004f7df8
received
MSG:2008-03-02 07:47:09.609:Delivered all 1 files of filelist
47ca5b6b004f7df8 from channel `EUMETSAT Data Channel 2'
MSG:2008-03-02 07:47:14.296:Disconnect from data channel `EUMETSAT
Data Channel 2', address 224.223.222.21:2511 completed (finished)
MSG:2008-03-02 07:47:14.625:Connected to data channel `EUMETSAT Data
Channel 3', address 224.223.222.23:2611 (invited)
MSG:2008-03-02 07:47:21.062:File transmission 47ca5b79004f7e12
interrupted: 4 files missing/incomplete
MSG:2008-03-02 07:47:24.312:File transmission 47ca5b7f004f7e23
interrupted: filelist missing/incomplete
MSG:2008-03-02 07:47:24.484:Connected to data channel `EUMETSAT Data
Channel 2', address 224.223.222.21:2511 (invited)
MSG:2008-03-02 07:47:26.062:Disconnect from data channel `EUMETSAT
Data Channel 3', address 224.223.222.23:2611 completed (finished)
MSG:2008-03-02 07:47:32.781:All 1 files of filelist 47ca5b7f004f7e23
received
++++++++

I already istalled MSG Data manager on another computer, same
problem. So to me it seems to be a reception od network problem. One
thing, that is astonishing to me, is that most received data in
reception folder has no file extension. Is thís normal? Names are
like that:

H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-IR_016___-000001___-200803020630-C_
H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-VIS006___-000001___-200803020630-C_
H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-IR_039___-000001___-200803020630-C_

I would appreciate every hint or help... Thank you vey much for
reading my lines in bad english (I am german...).

Bernhard.

bernhard.sauer wrote:
[]
> I already istalled MSG Data manager on another computer, same
> problem. So to me it seems to be a reception od network problem. One
> thing, that is astonishing to me, is that most received data in
> reception folder has no file extension. Is thís normal? Names are
> like that:
>
> H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-IR_016___-000001___-200803020630-C_
> H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-VIS006___-000001___-200803020630-C_
> H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-IR_039___-000001___-200803020630-C_
>
> I would appreciate every hint or help... Thank you vey much for
> reading my lines in bad english (I am german...).
>
> Bernhard


Bernhard,

Welcome to the group.

Yes, those are the correct file names - there is no file extension.

The best group for questions about my software is actually the SatSignal
Yahoo group:

   http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SatSignal/

but this seems like a network issue where the MSG Data Manager cannot
process the files from the network drive properly.  You need to check:

- that the network share provides full access (possibly includes the words
"Users can modify my files").

- that the directory which you are sharing allows full access to everyone.

- that the files allow full access to anyone.

You may need to check the file ownership as well.

I would also advise that the directory be excluded from any anti-virus
checking.

An alternative configuration is to run the MSG Data Manager on the same PC
as you receive EUMETCast, as a recent PC with 2GB of memory should be able
to handle both tasks.

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements
Web:  http://www.satsignal.eu
Email:  davidtaylor@...

Ich hatte gestern das selbe Problem , der Sturm hat meine SAT - Schüssel etwas
ausser Position gedrückt.

Prüfe doch mal die Signalstärke des einfallenden Signals , sollte mindestens 35
% betragen.

Habe gestern meine Schüssel noch nachjustiert , alle Probleme haben sich damit
erledigt.

Hoffe ich konnte mit dem Tip helfen.

Gruss
Hans-Joachim

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: bernhard.sauer
   To: MSG-1@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 9:27 AM
   Subject: [MSG-1] MSG Data Manager: Error Processing File


   Hello,

   I already found a thread about this error message, but help given
   there doesn't fit to my problem, so I try with setting up a new
   topic.

   I receive eumetsat weather data since two days, using eku-token and
   tellicast-software on reception pc with skystar2. On reception pc I
   installed MSG Data manager ans MSG Animator (both trial versions
   yet).

   After coping first setup-problems (ip-number of DVB-Card etc), it
   worked fine for some hours. Data was received, assimilated by MSG
   DataManager and animated by MSG Animator. But since yesterday, there
   are error messages without end and only very few data is processed.

   Some lines of the MSG Data manager log file:

   +++++++++++++++++++++++
   2008-03-02 07:06:44 Error processing file
   2008-03-02 06:42:28.000 L-000-MTP___-MET7________-00_7_057E-
   000004___-200803020700-C_
   2008-03-02 07:06:44 Error processing file
   2008-03-02 06:42:30.000 L-000-MTP___-MET7________-06_4_057E-
   000002___-200803020700-C_
   2008-03-02 07:06:44 Error processing file
   2008-03-02 06:42:29.000 L-000-MTP___-MET7________-11_5_057E-
   000002___-200803020700-C_
   2008-03-02 07:06:44 Error processing file
   2008-03-02 06:42:42.000 H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-VIS006___-
   000008___-200803020630-C_
   2008-03-02 07:06:44 Error processing file
   2008-03-02 06:42:43.000 H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-IR_016___-
   000008___-200803020630-C_
   2008-03-02 07:06:44 Error processing file
   2008-03-02 06:42:43.000 H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-IR_039___-
   000008___-200803020630-C_
   2008-03-02 07:06:44 Error processing file
   2008-03-02 06:42:44.000 H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-IR_108___-
   000008___-200803020630-C_
   2008-03-02 07:06:44 Error processing file
   2008-03-02 06:42:46.000 H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-IR_087___-
   000008___-200803020630-C_
   2008-03-02 06:42:46.000 H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-IR_120___-
   000008___-200803020630-C_
   2008-03-02 06:42:45.000 H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-VIS008___-
   000008___-200803020630-C_
   2008-03-02 07:06:44 Error processing file
   2008-03-02 06:42:49.000 H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-WV_062___-
   000008___-200803020630-C_
   2008-03-02 07:06:44 Error processing file
   2008-03-02 06:42:52.000 H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-WV_073___-
   000008___-200803020630-C_
   +++++++++++++++++++++

   And so on, and so on...

   Operating pc has full access to reception folder. Signal strengh of
   Sat-Signal could be better (about 5dB), but seems to be sufficient,
   BER is 0.

   Tellicast-Software Log shows some interrupted transmissions, some
   lines:

   ++++++++
   MSG:2008-03-02 07:47:00.296:Connected to data channel `EUMETSAT Data
   Channel 2', address 224.223.222.21:2511 (invited)
   MSG:2008-03-02 07:47:09.296:All 1 files of filelist 47ca5b6b004f7df8
   received
   MSG:2008-03-02 07:47:09.609:Delivered all 1 files of filelist
   47ca5b6b004f7df8 from channel `EUMETSAT Data Channel 2'
   MSG:2008-03-02 07:47:14.296:Disconnect from data channel `EUMETSAT
   Data Channel 2', address 224.223.222.21:2511 completed (finished)
   MSG:2008-03-02 07:47:14.625:Connected to data channel `EUMETSAT Data
   Channel 3', address 224.223.222.23:2611 (invited)
   MSG:2008-03-02 07:47:21.062:File transmission 47ca5b79004f7e12
   interrupted: 4 files missing/incomplete
   MSG:2008-03-02 07:47:24.312:File transmission 47ca5b7f004f7e23
   interrupted: filelist missing/incomplete
   MSG:2008-03-02 07:47:24.484:Connected to data channel `EUMETSAT Data
   Channel 2', address 224.223.222.21:2511 (invited)
   MSG:2008-03-02 07:47:26.062:Disconnect from data channel `EUMETSAT
   Data Channel 3', address 224.223.222.23:2611 completed (finished)
   MSG:2008-03-02 07:47:32.781:All 1 files of filelist 47ca5b7f004f7e23
   received
   ++++++++

   I already istalled MSG Data manager on another computer, same
   problem. So to me it seems to be a reception od network problem. One
   thing, that is astonishing to me, is that most received data in
   reception folder has no file extension. Is thís normal? Names are
   like that:

   H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-IR_016___-000001___-200803020630-C_
   H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-VIS006___-000001___-200803020630-C_
   H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-IR_039___-000001___-200803020630-C_

   I would appreciate every hint or help... Thank you vey much for
   reading my lines in bad english (I am german...).

   Bernhard.





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Bernhard,
two questions / thoughts come to mind about your problem:-
1) are the received files, that MSG Data Manager has problems with, being
deleted or are they building up in your received folder?
If they are being deleted then, to me, that means there is NOT a file access
problem - it's quite likely to be poor reception quality. Are you using a RAM
drive?

2) The file names you have shown look normal to me - I don't think the "
H-000-MSG2......." files have ever had file extension names in the "normal" way
- but I may be wrong on that.

Is there anyway you can improve your received signal ? Mine is currently running
at 7.2dB and 58% SNR and I am loosing a few segments - this is due to the dish
being knocked accidentally yesterday and I hope to readjust it today.

Hope this helps
Nigel


"bernhard.sauer" <bernhard.sauer@...> wrote:                              
Hello,

  I already found a thread about this error message, but help given
  there doesn't fit to my problem, so I try with setting up a new
  topic.

  I receive eumetsat weather data since two days, using eku-token and
  tellicast-software on reception pc with skystar2. On reception pc I
  installed MSG Data manager ans MSG Animator (both trial versions
  yet).

  After coping first setup-problems (ip-number of DVB-Card etc), it
  worked fine for some hours. Data was received, assimilated by MSG
  DataManager and animated by MSG Animator. But since yesterday, there
  are error messages without end and only very few data is processed.

  Some lines of the MSG Data manager log file:

  +++++++++++++++++++++++
  2008-03-02 07:06:44      Error processing file
  2008-03-02 06:42:28.000  L-000-MTP___-MET7________-00_7_057E-
  000004___-200803020700-C_
  2008-03-02 07:06:44      Error processing file
  2008-03-02 06:42:30.000  L-000-MTP___-MET7________-06_4_057E-
  000002___-200803020700-C_
  2008-03-02 07:06:44      Error processing file
  2008-03-02 06:42:29.000  L-000-MTP___-MET7________-11_5_057E-
  000002___-200803020700-C_
  2008-03-02 07:06:44      Error processing file
  2008-03-02 06:42:42.000  H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-VIS006___-
  000008___-200803020630-C_
  2008-03-02 07:06:44      Error processing file
  2008-03-02 06:42:43.000  H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-IR_016___-
  000008___-200803020630-C_
  2008-03-02 07:06:44      Error processing file
  2008-03-02 06:42:43.000  H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-IR_039___-
  000008___-200803020630-C_
  2008-03-02 07:06:44      Error processing file
  2008-03-02 06:42:44.000  H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-IR_108___-
  000008___-200803020630-C_
  2008-03-02 07:06:44      Error processing file
  2008-03-02 06:42:46.000  H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-IR_087___-
  000008___-200803020630-C_
  2008-03-02 06:42:46.000  H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-IR_120___-
  000008___-200803020630-C_
  2008-03-02 06:42:45.000  H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-VIS008___-
  000008___-200803020630-C_
  2008-03-02 07:06:44      Error processing file
  2008-03-02 06:42:49.000  H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-WV_062___-
  000008___-200803020630-C_
  2008-03-02 07:06:44      Error processing file
  2008-03-02 06:42:52.000  H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-WV_073___-
  000008___-200803020630-C_
  +++++++++++++++++++++

  And so on, and so on...

  Operating pc has full access to reception folder. Signal strengh of
  Sat-Signal could be better (about 5dB), but seems to be sufficient,
  BER is 0.

  Tellicast-Software Log shows some interrupted transmissions, some
  lines:

  ++++++++
  MSG:2008-03-02 07:47:00.296:Connected to data channel `EUMETSAT Data
  Channel 2', address 224.223.222.21:2511 (invited)
  MSG:2008-03-02 07:47:09.296:All 1 files of filelist 47ca5b6b004f7df8
  received
  MSG:2008-03-02 07:47:09.609:Delivered all 1 files of filelist
  47ca5b6b004f7df8 from channel `EUMETSAT Data Channel 2'
  MSG:2008-03-02 07:47:14.296:Disconnect from data channel `EUMETSAT
  Data Channel 2', address 224.223.222.21:2511 completed (finished)
  MSG:2008-03-02 07:47:14.625:Connected to data channel `EUMETSAT Data
  Channel 3', address 224.223.222.23:2611 (invited)
  MSG:2008-03-02 07:47:21.062:File transmission 47ca5b79004f7e12
  interrupted: 4 files missing/incomplete
  MSG:2008-03-02 07:47:24.312:File transmission 47ca5b7f004f7e23
  interrupted: filelist missing/incomplete
  MSG:2008-03-02 07:47:24.484:Connected to data channel `EUMETSAT Data
  Channel 2', address 224.223.222.21:2511 (invited)
  MSG:2008-03-02 07:47:26.062:Disconnect from data channel `EUMETSAT
  Data Channel 3', address 224.223.222.23:2611 completed (finished)
  MSG:2008-03-02 07:47:32.781:All 1 files of filelist 47ca5b7f004f7e23
  received
  ++++++++

  I already istalled MSG Data manager on another computer, same
  problem. So to me it seems to be a reception od network problem. One
  thing, that is astonishing to me, is that most received data in
  reception folder has no file extension. Is thís normal? Names are
  like that:

  H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-IR_016___-000001___-200803020630-C_
  H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-VIS006___-000001___-200803020630-C_
  H-000-MSG2__-MSG2________-IR_039___-000001___-200803020630-C_

  I would appreciate every hint or help... Thank you vey much for
  reading my lines in bad english (I am german...).

  Bernhard.








[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "David J Taylor" <gm8arv@...> wrote:
>
> Bernhard,
>
[...]
> but this seems like a network issue where the MSG Data Manager
> cannot process the files from the network drive properly.
> You need to check:
> - that the network share provides full access (possibly includes
> the words "Users can modify my files").
> - that the directory which you are sharing allows full access to
> everyone.
> - that the files allow full access to anyone.
> You may need to check the file ownership as well.
> I would also advise that the directory be excluded from any anti-
virus checking.
[...]
> Cheers,
> David

David,

thank you for answering. You were right, it's a network issue. I
installed MSG Data manager on the reception PC and it works fine.
Unfortunately this PC is rather weak (Athlon 1.6 GHz, 512MB RAM), so
network installation should work better.

Now I found out, that the operation PC has full access to data, which
was written into the reception folder BEFORE sharing the folder
within the network. Data, which is written there AFTER sharing the
folder causes the "error processing file"-message. It also is not
possible to delete these later written files by network access. If
I 'renew' sharing the reception folder, the data meanwhile generated
is processed. It seems, that sharing the reception folder only
affects existing data, but has no effect to future data. Strange,
isn't it?

This really is no MSG Data manager problem anymor, but can anyone
help?

Thank you very much, Bernhard.

Hallo Hans-Joachim,

wie schön, eine Antwort in deutsch! Danke für den Tipp, meine
Signalqualität ist mit 40%-45% zwar sicherlich schlechter als
eigentlich möglich und wünschenswert, aber die Fehlerquote (BER)
liegt bei 0, so dass der Empfang eigentlich nicht schuld sein kann.
Ich bin inzwischen auch schon ein bisschen weiter gekommen, siehe
meine Antwort an David.

Vielen Dank und viele Grüße, Bernhard.

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "Hans-Joachim Empel" <hajoempel@...>
wrote:
>
> Ich hatte gestern das selbe Problem , der Sturm hat meine SAT -
Schüssel etwas
> ausser Position gedrückt.
>
> Prüfe doch mal die Signalstärke des einfallenden Signals , sollte
mindestens 35 % betragen.
>
> Habe gestern meine Schüssel noch nachjustiert , alle Probleme haben
sich damit erledigt.
>
> Hoffe ich konnte mit dem Tip helfen.
>
> Gruss
> Hans-Joachim

Hi Nigel,

your answer helped me, indeed most files where not deleted, so that
it must be a file access problem. Thank you for this hint.

It seems, that file sharing on my PC only effects existing data, but
not data, which is written after sharing the folder - I have no clue
for what reason or how to fix it... See my answer to David.

But you are right, I really should increase my poor reception
quality. I will do, as soon as the weather becomes more stable. :)

Thank you very much, bernhard.


--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, nigel heasman <nigel_heasman@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Bernhard,
> two questions / thoughts come to mind about your problem:-
> 1) are the received files, that MSG Data Manager has problems with,
being deleted or are they building up in your received folder?
> If they are being deleted then, to me, that means there is NOT a
file access problem - it's quite likely to be poor reception quality.
Are you using a RAM drive?
>
> 2) The file names you have shown look normal to me - I don't think
the " H-000-MSG2......." files have ever had file extension names in
the "normal" way - but I may be wrong on that.
>
> Is there anyway you can improve your received signal ? Mine is
currently running at 7.2dB and 58% SNR and I am loosing a few
segments - this is due to the dish being knocked accidentally
yesterday and I hope to readjust it today.
>
> Hope this helps
> Nigel

Bernhardt,
     Some time ago I had a file sharing problem with windows XP and to
solve it I had to share at the disk,and every level down to the folders.
Once this was done, XP seemed to accept that data could be shared and
all was well.

Good luck - Alan

bernhard.sauer wrote:
>
> --- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MSG-1%40yahoogroups.com>, "David
> J Taylor" <gm8arv@...> wrote:
> >
> > Bernhard,
> >
> [...]
> > but this seems like a network issue where the MSG Data Manager
> > cannot process the files from the network drive properly.
> > You need to check:
> > - that the network share provides full access (possibly includes
> > the words "Users can modify my files").
> > - that the directory which you are sharing allows full access to
> > everyone.
> > - that the files allow full access to anyone.
> > You may need to check the file ownership as well.
> > I would also advise that the directory be excluded from any anti-
> virus checking.
> [...]
> > Cheers,
> > David
>
> David,
>
> thank you for answering. You were right, it's a network issue. I
> installed MSG Data manager on the reception PC and it works fine.
> Unfortunately this PC is rather weak (Athlon 1.6 GHz, 512MB RAM), so
> network installation should work better.
>
> Now I found out, that the operation PC has full access to data, which
> was written into the reception folder BEFORE sharing the folder
> within the network. Data, which is written there AFTER sharing the
> folder causes the "error processing file"-message. It also is not
> possible to delete these later written files by network access. If
> I 'renew' sharing the reception folder, the data meanwhile generated
> is processed. It seems, that sharing the reception folder only
> affects existing data, but has no effect to future data. Strange,
> isn't it?
>
> This really is no MSG Data manager problem anymor, but can anyone
> help?
>
> Thank you very much, Bernhard.
>
>

bernhard.sauer wrote:
[]
> David,
>
> thank you for answering. You were right, it's a network issue. I
> installed MSG Data manager on the reception PC and it works fine.
> Unfortunately this PC is rather weak (Athlon 1.6 GHz, 512MB RAM), so
> network installation should work better.
>
> Now I found out, that the operation PC has full access to data, which
> was written into the reception folder BEFORE sharing the folder
> within the network. Data, which is written there AFTER sharing the
> folder causes the "error processing file"-message. It also is not
> possible to delete these later written files by network access. If
> I 'renew' sharing the reception folder, the data meanwhile generated
> is processed. It seems, that sharing the reception folder only
> affects existing data, but has no effect to future data. Strange,
> isn't it?
>
> This really is no MSG Data manager problem anymor, but can anyone
> help?
>
> Thank you very much, Bernhard.

Bernhard,

You are not the first person to report this problem, but it is a problem
which has only been reported recently.  I therefore suspect that it may be
due to a relatively recent change in Windows XP.  You have provided more
information than I have seen before, for which, thanks.

I have checked a Windows XP Home system, and as I can see only one
security setting ("Allow network users to change my files"), and I can
nothing about security on individual files, or the ownership of individual
files before and after sharing is enabled, I am rather stuck as to how to
proceed on that OS.  I presume that "Allow network users to change my
files" is checked?

It is certainly worth trying Alan's suggestion of sharing the whole disk,
even though that is less desirable from the security viewpoint.

Your test (trying to delete files over the network) is exactly the test to
perform, and I was unable to verify this problem with the previous
person's report.

Just one odd thought - if you disable the anti-virus and the firewall (one
at a time) on the PC with TelliCast, does it make a difference?


I should comment that the TelliCast \received\ files should, of course, be
stored outside the C:\Program Files\ tree.  This may be part of the
difficulty.  If the steps above don't work, it might be worth trying the
following as an experiment.  Be sure to save your existing working files,
of course!  Create a new folder such as C:\TelliCast\, and change your
recv.ini file to point the tmp_directory there:

[parameters]
tmp_directory=C:\TelliCast\temp

and your recv-channels.ini file to be something like:

[EUMETSAT Data Channel 1]
target_directory=C:\TelliCast\received

[EUMETSAT Data Channel 2]
target_directory=C:\TelliCast\received

[EUMETSAT Data Channel 3]
target_directory=C:\TelliCast\received

Even better if you can use a separate physical disk (using a separate
partition for this purpose is not a good idea).

I don't know if this article helps to understand sharing:

   http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304040

Cheers,
David
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Web:  http://www.satsignal.eu
Email:  davidtaylor@...

i'm about to set up the msg reception on debian..

so here are some questions/problems:

-) how i'm supposed to install the etokend stuff, as i follow the
instructions of that manual included on the cd
(/media/cdrom/Licence_cd_v5_0_18-05-2006/Linux/EKU_software/Readme_DEBIAN_EKU.tx\
t)

it's no working, it says:

"Ensure that USB support is enable at startup and that usbdevfs
is mounted" well this is the first obvious problem how do i fix this?
which dependency is that?

when trying to install petokend with the supplied script it fails:

  ./petoken install 2
Stopping pcscd service
Copying etokend.srv.script ===> /etc/init.d/etokend
Copying etoken ===> /etc/hotplug/usb/etoken
cp: cannot create regular file `/etc/hotplug/usb/etoken': No such file
or directory
Copying etokend ===> /usr/local/sbin/etokend
Modifying /etc/hotplug/usb.usermap
Starting pcscd service
Unable to open file /etc/hotplug/usb.usermap: No such file or directory


thx in advance

michal

Bernhardt
I had really dire problems some time ago, which took a long time to
sort out, but one important step was to enable sharing of the whole
disk.
Robert


--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, Alan Sewards <asewards@...> wrote:
>
> Bernhardt,
>     Some time ago I had a file sharing problem with windows XP and
to
> solve it I had to share at the disk,and every level down to the
folders.
> Once this was done, XP seemed to accept that data could be shared
and
> all was well.
>
> Good luck - Alan
>
> bernhard.sauer wrote:
> >
> > --- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MSG-1%
40yahoogroups.com>, "David
> > J Taylor" <gm8arv@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Bernhard,
> > >
> > [...]
> > > but this seems like a network issue where the MSG Data Manager
> > > cannot process the files from the network drive properly.
> > > You need to check:
> > > - that the network share provides full access (possibly includes
> > > the words "Users can modify my files").
> > > - that the directory which you are sharing allows full access to
> > > everyone.
> > > - that the files allow full access to anyone.
> > > You may need to check the file ownership as well.
> > > I would also advise that the directory be excluded from any
anti-
> > virus checking.
> > [...]
> > > Cheers,
> > > David
> >
> > David,
> >
> > thank you for answering. You were right, it's a network issue. I
> > installed MSG Data manager on the reception PC and it works fine.
> > Unfortunately this PC is rather weak (Athlon 1.6 GHz, 512MB RAM),
so
> > network installation should work better.
> >
> > Now I found out, that the operation PC has full access to data,
which
> > was written into the reception folder BEFORE sharing the folder
> > within the network. Data, which is written there AFTER sharing the
> > folder causes the "error processing file"-message. It also is not
> > possible to delete these later written files by network access. If
> > I 'renew' sharing the reception folder, the data meanwhile
generated
> > is processed. It seems, that sharing the reception folder only
> > affects existing data, but has no effect to future data. Strange,
> > isn't it?
> >
> > This really is no MSG Data manager problem anymor, but can anyone
> > help?
> >
> > Thank you very much, Bernhard.
> >
> >
>

Hmmmm,
I run a 2pc setup on windows xp pro but my Tellicast is in the "progam
files" directory!It seems to work perfectly. It shares the rx pc with
MSG Data manager.I wonder who else has it in the program files
directory?

How's the holidays going David?

Greetings from a very windy BG

Rob

--- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com, "David J Taylor" <gm8arv@...> wrote:
> I should comment that the TelliCast \received\ files should, of
course, be
> stored outside the C:\Program Files\ tree.  This may be part of the
> difficulty.

brekaman wrote:
> Hmmmm,
> I run a 2pc setup on windows xp pro but my Tellicast is in the "progam
> files" directory!It seems to work perfectly. It shares the rx pc with
> MSG Data manager.I wonder who else has it in the program files
> directory?
>
> How's the holidays going David?
>
> Greetings from a very windy BG
>
> Rob

Rob,

Some folk get away with it, others not.  It may be just on XP Pro systems.

Looking forward to holidays soon.  Don't get blown away!

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements
Web:  http://www.satsignal.eu
Email:  davidtaylor@...

Hi,
     I think the prohibition on using the \received folders within the
Program Files tree only applies to Windows VISTA. My system runs XP and
has the original positions for the \received (and \temp) folders in the
T-Systems folder in the Program Files tree. I had to share the disk and
everything below it down to the actual folders of interest to get the
sharing working OK however.
Yeah - we got a mistral blowing too.

Best regards - Alan

brekaman wrote:
>
> Hmmmm,
> I run a 2pc setup on windows xp pro but my Tellicast is in the "progam
> files" directory!It seems to work perfectly. It shares the rx pc with
> MSG Data manager.I wonder who else has it in the program files
> directory?
>
> How's the holidays going David?
>
> Greetings from a very windy BG
>
> Rob
>
> --- In MSG-1@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MSG-1%40yahoogroups.com>, "David
> J Taylor" <gm8arv@...> wrote:
> > I should comment that the TelliCast \received\ files should, of
> course, be
> > stored outside the C:\Program Files\ tree. This may be part of the
> > difficulty.
>
>

Michal,

To see if usbdevs is mounted try (in a shell) command:
mount

For USB this should give something like:

usbdevfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw)


If it runs, and dir. /etc/hotplug/usb doesn't exist then create it:
mkdir -p /etc/hotplug/usb

See also the troubleshooting page:
http://www.eumetsat.int/Home/Main/What_We_Do/EUMETCast/Reception_Station_Set-up/\
SP_1119358997137?l=en

The Linux-stuff is in part C.

Regards,
Rob Alblas

http://www.alblas.demon.nl/wsat/software/soft_msg.html


misko.revucky wrote:

>i'm about to set up the msg reception on debian..
>
>so here are some questions/problems:
>
>-) how i'm supposed to install the etokend stuff, as i follow the
>instructions of that manual included on the cd
>(/media/cdrom/Licence_cd_v5_0_18-05-2006/Linux/EKU_software/Readme_DEBIAN_EKU.t\
xt)
>
>it's no working, it says:
>
>"Ensure that USB support is enable at startup and that usbdevfs
>is mounted" well this is the first obvious problem how do i fix this?
>which dependency is that?
>
>when trying to install petokend with the supplied script it fails:
>
> ./petoken install 2
>Stopping pcscd service
>Copying etokend.srv.script ===> /etc/init.d/etokend
>Copying etoken ===> /etc/hotplug/usb/etoken
>cp: cannot create regular file `/etc/hotplug/usb/etoken': No such file
>or directory
>Copying etokend ===> /usr/local/sbin/etokend
>Modifying /etc/hotplug/usb.usermap
>Starting pcscd service
>Unable to open file /etc/hotplug/usb.usermap: No such file or directory
>
>
>thx in advance
>
>michal
>
>
>
>Unsure what a term means?  Check the Glossary at:
>http://www.david-taylor.myby.co.uk/wxsat/glossary.htm
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

I see the new size MTSAT-1R data has started as planned from 09.00 UTC
although no sign yet of the new mid IR.

Regards
Ian.

Hi Misko,

There are 5 step I follow to start eumetcast in debian, in order

1. szap to tune the channel
2. network setup
3. etokend
4. pcscd
5. tellicast client

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 09:43:05 -0000
"misko.revucky" <misko.revucky@...> wrote:

> -) how i'm supposed to install the etokend stuff, as i follow the
> instructions of that manual included on the cd
>
(/media/cdrom/Licence_cd_v5_0_18-05-2006/Linux/EKU_software/Readme_DEBIAN_EKU.tx\
t)

I do not follow these install stuff, 'cause they are obsolete and can
cause problems in newer distro. That hot-plug script It seem's to
auto-start pcscd and etokend once It detect the token into the usb, and
stop them when you unplug it. Since I've dedicated this PC to the
receiving station I manually start there services at boot.
You should be able to fire etokend by hand and it should work alone.
Extract it and test.

Bye
E.

--
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Cell: +39 338 9064702 - Jabber: erossi@...

Ian Deans wrote:
> I see the new size MTSAT-1R data has started as planned from 09.00 UTC
> although no sign yet of the new mid IR.
>
> Regards
> Ian.

Same here, Ian.  I nearly forgot to check the mid-IR box in the channel
selection!  If the thumbnails look a little non-circular, please update to
the current beta version.  There's also a beta of GeoSatSignal which will
handle the new MTSAT-1R image size.

   http://www.david-taylor.myby.co.uk/software/beta.htm

I haven't yet checked the MSG Animator.  Most likely you should delete any
existing MTSAT-1R animation as the frame size has changed.

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements
Web:  http://www.satsignal.eu
Email:  davidtaylor@...

All,

OK I haven't recently updated my MDM but am I the only user getting  problems
this morning with MDM?

It's obviously MTSAT-1R related.
MDM is hanging (stopping) periodically with a message window coming  up:

Column count (2752) wrong in segment:
L-000MSG2_-MTSAT1R___-10_08_140E-000001____-20080304(time)-C_

You have to clock OK many times to stop the warning coming back and then  the
thumbnails build up and all is OK for a while when things halt again with
another warning etc, etc.

Closing down and re-opening MDM doesn't fix the problem.

Metop Manager and AVHRR Manager working OK.

Regards,
John.








[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Yes john if you are the only one who has not updated MDM to the new type
which stated at 9am today.

cheers

John


On 04/03/2008, geojohnt@... <geojohnt@...> wrote:
>
>   All,
>
> OK I haven't recently updated my MDM but am I the only user getting
> problems
> this morning with MDM?
>
> It's obviously MTSAT-1R related.
> MDM is hanging (stopping) periodically with a message window coming up:
>
> Column count (2752) wrong in segment:
> L-000MSG2_-MTSAT1R___-10_08_140E-000001____-20080304(time)-C_
>
> You have to clock OK many times to stop the warning coming back and then
> the
> thumbnails build up and all is OK for a while when things halt again with
> another warning etc, etc.
>
> Closing down and re-opening MDM doesn't fix the problem.
>
> Metop Manager and AVHRR Manager working OK.
>
> Regards,
> John.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I have the same problem here, although I have updates MDM to the latest
beta. The problem is, I think, caused by the files received before I
updated - so I will delete these shortly and report.
David I am still getting messages on MDM launch about a missing
language file, also that a localiser is not calibrated (I thought I
needed this for landing an aeroplane)

Robert

Thanks for that David.  I notice that you have taken the opportunity to
change the saved name from GOES 9 to mt1.  Looks like there is still issues
with the mid-IR but I am sure it will appear in the fullness of time.

Regards
Ian.

----- Original Message -----
From: "David J Taylor" <gm8arv@...>
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] MTSAT-1R


> Ian Deans wrote:
>> I see the new size MTSAT-1R data has started as planned from 09.00 UTC
>> although no sign yet of the new mid IR.
>>
>> Regards
>> Ian.
>
> Same here, Ian.  I nearly forgot to check the mid-IR box in the channel
> selection!  If the thumbnails look a little non-circular, please update to
> the current beta version.  There's also a beta of GeoSatSignal which will
> handle the new MTSAT-1R image size.
>
>  http://www.david-taylor.myby.co.uk/software/beta.htm
>
> I haven't yet checked the MSG Animator.  Most likely you should delete any
> existing MTSAT-1R animation as the frame size has changed.
>
> Cheers,
> David
> --
>

>
>I haven't yet checked the MSG Animator.  Most likely you should delete any
>existing MTSAT-1R animation as the frame size has changed.
>
>Cheers,
>David

Not convinced Animator can - though we are probably both in the wrong
group to continue the discussion ;-)

James
--
James Brown

No you are right James, I cannot get Animator to work with the the new sized
data.     Will move this to SatSignal.

Regards
Ian.


----- Original Message -----
From: "James Brown" <satellite@...>
To: <MSG-1@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MSG-1] MTSAT-1R


> >
>>I haven't yet checked the MSG Animator.  Most likely you should delete any
>>existing MTSAT-1R animation as the frame size has changed.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>David
>
> Not convinced Animator can - though we are probably both in the wrong
> group to continue the discussion ;-)
>
> James
> --
> James Brown
>
>

Robert Moore wrote:
> I have the same problem here, although I have updates MDM to the
> latest beta. The problem is, I think, caused by the files received
> before I updated - so I will delete these shortly and report.
> David I am still getting messages on MDM launch about a missing
> language file, also that a localiser is not calibrated (I thought I
> needed this for landing an aeroplane)
>
> Robert

Robert,

If you have mixed data, I would recommend keeping the new data out of the
way until the last of the old format data is processed.

If you have the current beta (shortly to be release) version, V2.5.14.732,
simply let the old files run out, stop and start the program as suggested,
and the new segments should be correctly processed.  Stopping and
restarting is suggested in the release notes.

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements
Web:  http://www.satsignal.eu
Email:  davidtaylor@...

Back home from work I found "the error" on the screen... I have not
updated MDM for a while... :-( ......
Now new beta is operative, and MTSAT-mid-IR box is checked...
Now it's working, waiting until tomorrow for new data...
Have all a nice evening, ciao

Giuseppe


>
> If you have mixed data, I would recommend keeping the new data out of the
> way until the last of the old format data is processed.
>
> If you have the current beta (shortly to be release) version, V2.5.14.732,
> simply let the old files run out, stop and start the program as suggested,
> and the new segments should be correctly processed.  Stopping and
> restarting is suggested in the release notes.
>
> Cheers,
> David

Robert Moore wrote:
[]
> David I am still getting messages on MDM launch about a missing
> language file, also that a localiser is not calibrated (I thought I
> needed this for landing an aeroplane)
>
> Robert

Robert,

Please ensure that all the language files from the Zip archive are in the
same directory as the actual executable version of the MSG Data Manager
you are running.  You should have six files:

MsgDataManager.DEU.lng
MsgDataManager.ESN.lng
MsgDataManager.FRA.lng
MsgDataManager.ITA.lng
MsgDataManager.ntv.lng
MsgDataManager.RUS.lng

which should have the same date and a similar time to the
MsgDataManager.exe

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements
Web:  http://www.satsignal.eu
Email:  davidtaylor@...

Hi All after being away from weather satelite recieving i have just set
it all up again after a long period of absence. All to my joy is
working well but the animator program will not loop the images even
though it is checked in the program . i am using the latest msg data
manager beta version v2.5.14.732 and animator version v2.5.14.203  any
help will be apreciated Regards Duncan

Hi All
From yesterday I regular get a message on my MSG Data Manager like:
Column count (2752)wrong in segment: l-000-MSG2_-MTSAT IR-------.
What is wrong? What is MTSAT IR- I must have missed something I should
know!
Did Eumetsat change anything.
Can anybody help please.
Thanks very much.
Kobus Botha- South Africa.

Duncan wrote:
> Hi All after being away from weather satelite recieving i have just
> set it all up again after a long period of absence. All to my joy is
> working well but the animator program will not loop the images even
> though it is checked in the program . i am using the latest msg data
> manager beta version v2.5.14.732 and animator version v2.5.14.203  any
> help will be apreciated Regards Duncan

Duncan,

Welcome back!

Your question would be best asked in the SatSignal yahoo group:

   http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SatSignal/

You may want to play with the Delay time - IIRC there is an issue that the
delay time must be longer than the animation time, but only under certain
circumstances.  Best ask in the SatSignal group.

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements
Web:  http://www.satsignal.eu
Email:  davidtaylor@...