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#1669 From: "David D" <david@...>
Date: Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:26 pm
Subject: Wheeling Suspension Bridge video
bridgemeister
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Recently swung by Wheeling and couldn't resist taking a video as I drove across
the suspension bridge.  First time I had been back to Wheeling since 1995.
-david

#1670 From: "David D" <david@...>
Date: Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:27 pm
Subject: Re: Wheeling Suspension Bridge video
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And of course I forgot the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoxORWqFRvc

--- In ManySpans@yahoogroups.com, "David D" <david@...> wrote:
>
> Recently swung by Wheeling and couldn't resist taking a video as I drove
across the suspension bridge.  First time I had been back to Wheeling since
1995.
> -david
>

#1671 From: John Spafford <jspaff@...>
Date: Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:34 am
Subject: Re: Re: Wheeling Suspension Bridge video
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David, what is the purpose of the traffic signals on the approach?  I thought initially it was because the bridge was one-way at a time, but I noticed that you encountered oncoming traffic on the bridge.  I also didn't notice any crosswalk either at the traffic signals.

John Spafford
"I went from Phoenix, AZ all the way to Tacoma..."

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 12:27 PM, David D <david@...> wrote:
 


And of course I forgot the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoxORWqFRvc



--- In ManySpans@yahoogroups.com, "David D" <david@...> wrote:
>
> Recently swung by Wheeling and couldn't resist taking a video as I drove across the suspension bridge. First time I had been back to Wheeling since 1995.
> -david
>



#1672 From: xploreusa@...
Date: Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:19 am
Subject: Re: Re: Wheeling Suspension Bridge video
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To regulate the maximum number of cars crossing at any one time. I think it's four or five vehicles simultaneously??


Message sent from my magical and revolutionary iPad 2

On Nov 15, 2011, at 12:34 AM, John Spafford <jspaff@...> wrote:

 

David, what is the purpose of the traffic signals on the approach?  I thought initially it was because the bridge was one-way at a time, but I noticed that you encountered oncoming traffic on the bridge.  I also didn't notice any crosswalk either at the traffic signals.

John Spafford
"I went from Phoenix, AZ all the way to Tacoma..."

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 12:27 PM, David D <david@...> wrote:
 


And of course I forgot the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoxORWqFRvc



--- In ManySpans@yahoogroups.com, "David D" <david@...> wrote:
>
> Recently swung by Wheeling and couldn't resist taking a video as I drove across the suspension bridge. First time I had been back to Wheeling since 1995.
> -david

#1673 From: "Patrick S. O'Donnell " <1.991km@...>
Date: Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:01 am
Subject: Re: Re: Wheeling Suspension Bridge video
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I would think it's to allow spacing between vehicles so that there is not so much weight on / in any given area on this very aged structure.

 

- Patrick O'Donnell


From: "John Spafford" <jspaff@...>
To: ManySpans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 12:34:22 AM
Subject: Re: [ManySpans] Re: Wheeling Suspension Bridge video

 

David, what is the purpose of the traffic signals on the approach?  I thought initially it was because the bridge was one-way at a time, but I noticed that you encountered oncoming traffic on the bridge.  I also didn't notice any crosswalk either at the traffic signals.

John Spafford
"I went from Phoenix, AZ all the way to Tacoma..."

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 12:27 PM, David D <david@...> wrote:
 


And of course I forgot the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoxORWqFRvc



--- In ManySpans@yahoogroups.com, "David D" <david@...> wrote:
>
> Recently swung by Wheeling and couldn't resist taking a video as I drove across the suspension bridge. First time I had been back to Wheeling since 1995.
> -david
>



#1674 From: wgrodkiewi@...
Date: Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:20 am
Subject: Re: Re: Wheeling Suspension Bridge video
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I believe there is even a sign indicating such at the traffic lights. 
 
In a message dated 11/15/2011 5:01:40 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 1.991km@... writes:
 

I would think it's to allow spacing between vehicles so that there is not so much weight on / in any given area on this very aged structure.

 

- Patrick O'Donnell


From: "John Spafford" <jspaff@...>
To: ManySpans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 12:34:22 AM
Subject: Re: [ManySpans] Re: Wheeling Suspension Bridge video

 

David, what is the purpose of the traffic signals on the approach?  I thought initially it was because the bridge was one-way at a time, but I noticed that you encountered oncoming traffic on the bridge.  I also didn't notice any crosswalk either at the traffic signals.

John Spafford
"I went from Phoenix, AZ all the way to Tacoma..."

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 12:27 PM, David D <david@...> wrote:
 


And of course I forgot the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoxORWqFRvc



--- In ManySpans@yahoogroups.com, "David D" <david@...> wrote:
>
> Recently swung by Wheeling and couldn't resist taking a video as I drove across the suspension bridge. First time I had been back to Wheeling since 1995.
> -david
>



#1675 From: David Denenberg <david@...>
Date: Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:33 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Wheeling Suspension Bridge video
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There are signs at each end of the bridge instructing drivers to maintain 50 feet between cars.  As I understand it, the traffic lights are an additional measure to minimize the number of vehicles on the bridge at a time. 
-david

On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 6:20 AM, <wgrodkiewi@...> wrote:
 

I believe there is even a sign indicating such at the traffic lights. 
 
In a message dated 11/15/2011 5:01:40 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 1.991km@... writes:
 

I would think it's to allow spacing between vehicles so that there is not so much weight on / in any given area on this very aged structure.

 

- Patrick O'Donnell


From: "John Spafford" <jspaff@...>
To: ManySpans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 12:34:22 AM
Subject: Re: [ManySpans] Re: Wheeling Suspension Bridge video

 

David, what is the purpose of the traffic signals on the approach?  I thought initially it was because the bridge was one-way at a time, but I noticed that you encountered oncoming traffic on the bridge.  I also didn't notice any crosswalk either at the traffic signals.

John Spafford
"I went from Phoenix, AZ all the way to Tacoma..."

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 12:27 PM, David D <david@...> wrote:
 


And of course I forgot the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoxORWqFRvc



--- In ManySpans@yahoogroups.com, "David D" <david@...> wrote:
>
> Recently swung by Wheeling and couldn't resist taking a video as I drove across the suspension bridge. First time I had been back to Wheeling since 1995.
> -david
>




#1676 From: "David D" <david@...>
Date: Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:24 am
Subject: Re: Wheeling Suspension Bridge video
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I believe they are just to minimize the number of vehicles on the bridge at any
given time. There are signals at both approaches.
-david

--- In ManySpans@yahoogroups.com, John Spafford <jspaff@...> wrote:
>
> David, what is the purpose of the traffic signals on the approach?  I
> thought initially it was because the bridge was one-way at a time, but I
> noticed that you encountered oncoming traffic on the bridge.  I also didn't
> notice any crosswalk either at the traffic signals.
>
> John Spafford
> "I went from Phoenix, AZ all the way to Tacoma..."
>
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 12:27 PM, David D <david@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> >
> > And of course I forgot the link:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoxORWqFRvc
> >
> >
> > --- In ManySpans@yahoogroups.com, "David D" <david@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Recently swung by Wheeling and couldn't resist taking a video as I drove
> > across the suspension bridge. First time I had been back to Wheeling since
> > 1995.
> > > -david
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

#1677 From: "Patrick S. O'Donnell " <1.991km@...>
Date: Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:26 pm
Subject: Keeseville Suspension Bridge images
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Slide show of my photos taken thuis past summer of the 1888 Keeseville Suspension Footbridge at Keeseville, New York.  First suspension bridge of 25 visited during a four day / 2300+ mile drive up to and around Quebec's Gaspe Peninsula.

 

http://www.flickr.com//photos/suspensionstayed/sets/72157628039780445/show/

 

-Patrick


#1678 From: Dave Cooper <coopermans@...>
Date: Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: Keeseville Suspension Bridge images
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I could do with picking your brains. How I can talk the wife into letting me stand on her shoulders to get some high shots.



On 18 Nov 2011, at 18:26, Patrick S. O'Donnell wrote:

 

Slide show of my photos taken thuis past summer of the 1888 Keeseville Suspension Footbridge at Keeseville, New York.  First suspension bridge of 25 visited during a four day / 2300+ mile drive up to and around Quebec's Gaspe Peninsula.

 

http://www.flickr.com//photos/suspensionstayed/sets/72157628039780445/show/

 

-Patrick



#1679 From: David Denenberg <david@...>
Date: Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:37 pm
Subject: Re: Keeseville Suspension Bridge images
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Nice.  Can't believe I've never made it to this bridge... definitely one of the lesser known "under appreciated" bridges of the few 100+ year-old suspension bridges remaining in the U.S.

#1680 From: "Patrick S. O'Donnell " <1.991km@...>
Date: Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:41 pm
Subject: Re: Keeseville Suspension Bridge images
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Sorry, I'm not going to be of any help there.  Those several "high shots" within the slide show are as a result of my climbing up the structure.  My wife has accompanied me on less than 1% of my 1,053 bridge visits.  I may even be able to count them on one hand, thus about half that 1%.  I can't even even get her to take those pictures of me holding my counter, even when I could get her out on the bridge.  The intensity of my trips makes these solo efforts.  Example: Taking a nap prior to leaving home at 11PM for a 6 hour drive to be at the first bridge at sunrise such was done with the Keeseville, then going non-stop until 9PM that evening was the first day (OK, first 22 hours).  The the next couple of days were from 5AM until 9PM as to use the available daylight that time of year.

 

-Patrick

 


 


From: "Dave Cooper" <coopermans@...>
To: ManySpans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 2:55:17 PM
Subject: Re: [ManySpans] Keeseville Suspension Bridge images

 

I could do with picking your brains. How I can talk the wife into letting me stand on her shoulders to get some high shots.



On 18 Nov 2011, at 18:26, Patrick S. O'Donnell wrote:

 

Slide show of my photos taken thuis past summer of the 1888 Keeseville Suspension Footbridge at Keeseville, New York.  First suspension bridge of 25 visited during a four day / 2300+ mile drive up to and around Quebec's Gaspe Peninsula.

 

http://www.flickr.com//photos/suspensionstayed/sets/72157628039780445/show/

 

-Patrick



#1681 From: Dave Cooper <coopermans@...>
Date: Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:14 pm
Subject: Re: Keeseville Suspension Bridge images
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The wife & I go almost everywhere together. She is also very reluctant to walk out onto a suspension bridge & I am sure I would not get away with climbing the towers.

But your high shots have given me an idea. I am going to try setting the camera self-timer & then hold it up with a monopod.

Dave C.


On 18 Nov 2011, at 20:41, Patrick S. O'Donnell wrote:

 

Sorry, I'm not going to be of any help there.  Those several "high shots" within the slide show are as a result of my climbing up the structure.  My wife has accompanied me on less than 1% of my 1,053 bridge visits.  I may even be able to count them on one hand, thus about half that 1%.  I can't even even get her to take those pictures of me holding my counter, even when I could get her out on the bridge.  The intensity of my trips makes these solo efforts.  Example: Taking a nap prior to leaving home at 11PM for a 6 hour drive to be at the first bridge at sunrise such was done with the Keeseville, then going non-stop until 9PM that evening was the first day (OK, first 22 hours).  The the next couple of days were from 5AM until 9PM as to use the available daylight that time of year.

 

-Patrick

 


 




From: "Dave Cooper" <coopermans@...>
To: ManySpans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 2:55:17 PM
Subject: Re: [ManySpans] Keeseville Suspension Bridge images

 


I could do with picking your brains. How I can talk the wife into letting me stand on her shoulders to get some high shots.



On 18 Nov 2011, at 18:26, Patrick S. O'Donnell wrote:

 

Slide show of my photos taken thuis past summer of the 1888 Keeseville Suspension Footbridge at Keeseville, New York.  First suspension bridge of 25 visited during a four day / 2300+ mile drive up to and around Quebec's Gaspe Peninsula.

 

http://www.flickr.com//photos/suspensionstayed/sets/72157628039780445/show/

 

-Patrick






#1682 From: Allison Denenberg <allisondenenberg@...>
Date: Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:23 pm
Subject: Re: Keeseville Suspension Bridge images
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Dave, your wife and I would get along great. She sounds like my type of woman.

On Nov 18, 2011 5:14 PM, "Dave Cooper" <coopermans@...> wrote:
 

The wife & I go almost everywhere together. She is also very reluctant to walk out onto a suspension bridge & I am sure I would not get away with climbing the towers.


But your high shots have given me an idea. I am going to try setting the camera self-timer & then hold it up with a monopod.

Dave C.


On 18 Nov 2011, at 20:41, Patrick S. O'Donnell wrote:

 

Sorry, I'm not going to be of any help there.  Those several "high shots" within the slide show are as a result of my climbing up the structure.  My wife has accompanied me on less than 1% of my 1,053 bridge visits.  I may even be able to count them on one hand, thus about half that 1%.  I can't even even get her to take those pictures of me holding my counter, even when I could get her out on the bridge.  The intensity of my trips makes these solo efforts.  Example: Taking a nap prior to leaving home at 11PM for a 6 hour drive to be at the first bridge at sunrise such was done with the Keeseville, then going non-stop until 9PM that evening was the first day (OK, first 22 hours).  The the next couple of days were from 5AM until 9PM as to use the available daylight that time of year.

 

-Patrick

 


 




From: "Dave Cooper" <coopermans@...>
To: ManySpans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 2:55:17 PM
Subject: Re: [ManySpans] Keeseville Suspension Bridge images

 


I could do with picking your brains. How I can talk the wife into letting me stand on her shoulders to get some high shots.



On 18 Nov 2011, at 18:26, Patrick S. O'Donnell wrote:

 

Slide show of my photos taken thuis past summer of the 1888 Keeseville Suspension Footbridge at Keeseville, New York.  First suspension bridge of 25 visited during a four day / 2300+ mile drive up to and around Quebec's Gaspe Peninsula.

 

http://www.flickr.com//photos/suspensionstayed/sets/72157628039780445/show/

 

-Patrick






#1683 From: "David D" <david@...>
Date: Sat Dec 3, 2011 8:55 pm
Subject: Brighton and Trinity Chain Pier images/animations
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Someone forwarded me a link to several videos related to the Brighton and
Trinity Chain Piers.

Set of animations/videos:

http://www.youtube.com/user/ferroflow

Particularly interesting, dozens of images of the Brighton chain pier while
narrator reads an account of its destruction.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8Vy8wNmOcc

-david

#1684 From: John Spafford <jspaff@...>
Date: Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:59 am
Subject: World's Longest Bridge made of plastic
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It would be nice to see more of these kind of bridges - maybe out of plastic water bottles.  God knows we have enough of them.

http://earth911.com/news/2011/12/16/world%E2%80%99s-longest-bridge-made-of-recycled-plastic/

#1685 From: "Barry" <criterion1974@...>
Date: Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:03 pm
Subject: Re: World's Longest Bridge made of plastic
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Wow. I didn't know the use of recycled plastic had caught on like that. We have
a little bridge on a sand road in the woods that is made of recycled plastic
lumber. It replaced an older one made of wood. We actually went to see it while
the worker(s) was/were still building it. I got to take home a sample of the
plastic lumber. This was maybe 5 years ago, I'd guess.
Thanks,
Barry, in New Jersey

--- In ManySpans@yahoogroups.com, John Spafford <jspaff@...> wrote:
>
> It would be nice to see more of these kind of bridges - maybe out of
> plastic water bottles.  God knows we have enough of them.
>
>
http://earth911.com/news/2011/12/16/world%E2%80%99s-longest-bridge-made-of-recyc\
led-plastic/
>

#1686 From: "David D" <david@...>
Date: Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:01 pm
Subject: Who builds short-span suspension bridges in the U.S.?
bridgemeister
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I am going through a lot of my "unprocessed" incoming bridgemeister.com email
from the last year and once again noticing that I get MANY questions asking for
help finding contractors to build short-span (usually < 150 feet) suspension
footbridges in the U.S.

Any suggestions from this group on where to direct such inquiries?

Any websites that aggregate such information?

In the past, I had referred some requests to Sahale (http://sahale.com, closed
in 2010) and I see now they have branched off to Seattle Bridge
(http://seattlebridgebuilders.com).  Any other suggestions?

Thanks,
David

#1687 From: "David D" <david@...>
Date: Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:06 pm
Subject: Bridgemeister on Facebook / Twitter
bridgemeister
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Over the holidays, I'm trying to make a dent in the backlog of updates for
Bridgemeister.com.  I haven't published any updates since early 2010.

While working on these updates, I created Facebook and Twitter pages for
Bridgemeister.com.  If you use either of those services, see:

https://www.facebook.com/bridgemeister
https://twitter.com/BridgemeisterDD

You can still watch for updates here:
http://www.bridgemeister.com/invnews.php
http://www.bridgemeister.com/contributions.php?pg=0

Or join the update notification mailing list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SuspensionBridgeInventory

Thanks,
David

#1688 From: "David D" <david@...>
Date: Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:51 pm
Subject: 1904 Chaleston WV, Elk River collapse
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I find collapsed suspension bridge photos endlessly fascinating.  One of my
favorite depictions (non-photo) of a collapse is here:
http://www.bridgemeister.com/pic.php?pid=1614.  This is a scan of a newspaper in
my collection.  The (likely) French artist obviously had no image of the Elk
River bridge and their rendering resembles 19th-century European suspension
bridges more than most American suspension bridges.

I recently came across a photograph of the aftermath of the event:
http://bit.ly/sxpEIQ

or:
http://wvhistoryonview.org/cgi/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=ic_all;op2=And;rgn2=ic_all\
;g=wvcart;med=1;c=wvcp;back=back1325011847;subview=detail;resnum=3;view=entry;cc\
=wvcp;entryid=x-005441;viewid=005441.JPG

My entry for this bridge: http://www.bridgemeister.com/bridge.php?bid=38

-david

#1689 From: jsliv <jsliv@...>
Date: Tue Dec 27, 2011 7:23 pm
Subject: Re: Who builds short-span suspension bridges in the U.S.?
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David, in 2010 I built a  76' suspension bridge on my property. It is more than a foot bridge but far less than an auto bridge. Here is a link to the Instructables site where I describe the bridge. If you like, send me some of the references, or send my link to them. I am not sure I want to be a contractor, but, who knows?


Thanks,

Jake


From: David D <david@...>
To: ManySpans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:01 AM
Subject: [ManySpans] Who builds short-span suspension bridges in the U.S.?

 
I am going through a lot of my "unprocessed" incoming bridgemeister.com email from the last year and once again noticing that I get MANY questions asking for help finding contractors to build short-span (usually < 150 feet) suspension footbridges in the U.S.

Any suggestions from this group on where to direct such inquiries?

Any websites that aggregate such information?

In the past, I had referred some requests to Sahale (http://sahale.com, closed in 2010) and I see now they have branched off to Seattle Bridge (http://seattlebridgebuilders.com). Any other suggestions?

Thanks,
David




#1690 From: "Patrick S. O'Donnell " <1.991km@...>
Date: Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:27 pm
Subject: Re: Who builds short-span suspension bridges in the U.S.?
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Here is a company that has built a couple of suspension footbridges in Virginia with the longest being 150 feet.

They also have refubished a 220 footer.

 

http://www.tri-statecompany.com/Projects/Bridges/main.html

 

I'm stumped as for a central database / association where one would go to for such companies. 

 

-Patrick

 




From: "David D" <david@...>
To: ManySpans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 12:01:11 PM
Subject: [ManySpans] Who builds short-span suspension bridges in the U.S.?

 

I am going through a lot of my "unprocessed" incoming bridgemeister.com email from the last year and once again noticing that I get MANY questions asking for help finding contractors to build short-span (usually < 150 feet) suspension footbridges in the U.S.

Any suggestions from this group on where to direct such inquiries?

Any websites that aggregate such information?

In the past, I had referred some requests to Sahale (http://sahale.com, closed in 2010) and I see now they have branched off to Seattle Bridge (http://seattlebridgebuilders.com). Any other suggestions?

Thanks,
David


#1691 From: "David D" <david@...>
Date: Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:51 pm
Subject: News: Fort Steuben Bridge Demolition Begins
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http://www.news-register.net/page/content.detail/id/564282/Fort-Steuben-Bridge-D\
emolition-Begins.html?nav=510

Fort Steuben Bridge Demolition Begins
Part of span to be made an observation deck
January 12, 2012
By WARREN SCOTT - For The Intelligencer , The Intelligencer / Wheeling
News-Register

Passersby on Ohio 7 or the Veterans Memorial Bridge may have noticed sparks
flying from the older Fort Steuben Bridge and heavy equipment parked on it.

That's because crews with the Joseph B. Fay Co. of Russellton, Pa., have begun
demolishing the 82-year-old span, which was closed in January 2009 by officials
with the Ohio Department of Transportation, who said it had become too costly to
repair and upgrade to meet current traffic conditions...

#1692 From: "David D" <david@...>
Date: Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:05 pm
Subject: News: James Dredge's 1836 Bath bridge in bad shape?
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http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/bridge-allowed-decay/story-14402370-detail/story.htm\
l

Why was this bridge allowed to decay?
Thursday, January 12, 2012

Bath Chronicle
By Kirsten Elliott

Bath and North East Somerset Council says that one challenge it faces at
Victoria Bridge is that it is a "very old structure", as if that is in some way
an excuse for its present sorry state.

The railway line from Paddington to Bristol runs happily over bridges of similar
vintage, and there are even older bridges and aqueducts on our canal system.
Unlike this one, they have been properly maintained.

There seems little doubt that B&NES thought that Crest Nicholson would ride to
the rescue of the bridge. Early documents promised that as a "key component of
this landmark contemporary scheme" there would be "two new bridges and the
restoration of the listed Victoria Bridge"...

#1693 From: wgrodkiewi@...
Date: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:07 pm
Subject: Re: News: Fort Steuben Bridge Demolition Begins
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Hello Many Spans Group,
 
I have a question, as I am not an engineer and just enjoy bridges for their general beauty (I hate UCEB and Box Girder Bridges).   I don't understand a response I got from ODOT regarding the replacement of the Jeremiah Morrow Bridge.  I noticed early in 2011 there was construction going on at the bridge, it didn't take too long to ascertain they were doing a replacement.  So I immediately went to the ODOT website to see what they were doing and much to my dismay I found the replacement was going to be a cantilevered hollow box girder bridge.  So I posed the question to ODOT why they were not replacing the Morrow Bridge with a suspension or cable stayed span because it's only 1/2 a mile from apron to apron on the bridge right now and a span like this would keep the valley floor from being "cluttered" with columns.  The Little Miami River Valley is very picturesque and is done a disservice with this bridge going over it.  But anyhow the ODOT rep responded saying "They don't do Suspension spans for that distance and that they are limiting the number of columns to keep things 'beautiful'".  Yea they are limiting it to about 5 columns and 1 single bridge instead of the parallel decktruss bridges it currently is but is 1/2 a mile really that difficult for a suspension or cable stayed bridge on an interstate highway, especially when it can be anchored right into the valley walls? 
 
Thanks
 
Wayne Grodkiewicz



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Subject: [ManySpans] News: Fort Steuben Bridge Demolition Begins

 

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Fort Steuben Bridge Demolition Begins
Part of span to be made an observation deck
January 12, 2012
By WARREN SCOTT - For The Intelligencer , The Intelligencer / Wheeling News-Register

Passersby on Ohio 7 or the Veterans Memorial Bridge may have noticed sparks flying from the older Fort Steuben Bridge and heavy equipment parked on it.

That's because crews with the Joseph B. Fay Co. of Russellton, Pa., have begun demolishing the 82-year-old span, which was closed in January 2009 by officials with the Ohio Department of Transportation, who said it had become too costly to repair and upgrade to meet current traffic conditions...


#1694 From: John Spafford <jspaff@...>
Date: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:35 pm
Subject: Re: News: Fort Steuben Bridge Demolition Begins
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I'm surprised they didn't come right out and say "it's about the money."  Box girders are a heck of a lot cheaper than suspension spans.

John Spafford


On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 6:07 AM, <wgrodkiewi@...> wrote:
 

Hello Many Spans Group,
 
I have a question, as I am not an engineer and just enjoy bridges for their general beauty (I hate UCEB and Box Girder Bridges).   I don't understand a response I got from ODOT regarding the replacement of the Jeremiah Morrow Bridge.  I noticed early in 2011 there was construction going on at the bridge, it didn't take too long to ascertain they were doing a replacement.  So I immediately went to the ODOT website to see what they were doing and much to my dismay I found the replacement was going to be a cantilevered hollow box girder bridge.  So I posed the question to ODOT why they were not replacing the Morrow Bridge with a suspension or cable stayed span because it's only 1/2 a mile from apron to apron on the bridge right now and a span like this would keep the valley floor from being "cluttered" with columns.  The Little Miami River Valley is very picturesque and is done a disservice with this bridge going over it.  But anyhow the ODOT rep responded saying "They don't do Suspension spans for that distance and that they are limiting the number of columns to keep things 'beautiful'".  Yea they are limiting it to about 5 columns and 1 single bridge instead of the parallel decktruss bridges it currently is but is 1/2 a mile really that difficult for a suspension or cable stayed bridge on an interstate highway, especially when it can be anchored right into the valley walls? 
 
Thanks
 
Wayne Grodkiewicz



-----Original Message-----
From: David D <david@...>
To: ManySpans <ManySpans@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Jan 12, 2012 9:51 am
Subject: [ManySpans] News: Fort Steuben Bridge Demolition Begins

 

http://www.news-register.net/page/content.detail/id/564282/Fort-Steuben-Bridge-Demolition-Begins.html?nav=510

Fort Steuben Bridge Demolition Begins
Part of span to be made an observation deck
January 12, 2012
By WARREN SCOTT - For The Intelligencer , The Intelligencer / Wheeling News-Register

Passersby on Ohio 7 or the Veterans Memorial Bridge may have noticed sparks flying from the older Fort Steuben Bridge and heavy equipment parked on it.

That's because crews with the Joseph B. Fay Co. of Russellton, Pa., have begun demolishing the 82-year-old span, which was closed in January 2009 by officials with the Ohio Department of Transportation, who said it had become too costly to repair and upgrade to meet current traffic conditions...



#1695 From: "Patrick S. O'Donnell " <1.991km@...>
Date: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:41 pm
Subject: Re: News: Fort Steuben Bridge Demolition Begins
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It is obvious to me it's simply a matter of cost.  My quick research of the Jeremiah Morrow Bridge tells me that it's a $88.1 million dollar project for 2,240 feet of bridge.  Close to me down in Delaware they're nearing completion of the Indian River Inlet Bridge - a cable-stayed bridge that is $150 million and a bit longer at 2,600 feet in total length.  The cable-stayed portion is just 1,750 feet of which 950 feet is the mainspan and the remainder divided equally among the two side spans.  Your Jeremiah Morrow Bridge is considerably wider than the Indian River Inlet Bridge in that it's going to be striped for three lanes each direction with wide shoulders with the intention that someday it will be four lanes each direction with narrow shoulders.  The IRIB will have two lanes each direction with typical shoulders and a single bicycle / pedestrian lane on the one side.  Perhaps the width of the JMB makes up for the length of the IRIB.  I would estimate a 2,240' suspended span with eight lanes would cost in excess of a half billion dollars.

 

-Patrick

 




From: wgrodkiewi@...
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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 9:07:44 AM
Subject: Re: [ManySpans] News: Fort Steuben Bridge Demolition Begins

 

Hello Many Spans Group,
 
I have a question, as I am not an engineer and just enjoy bridges for their general beauty (I hate UCEB and Box Girder Bridges).   I don't understand a response I got from ODOT regarding the replacement of the Jeremiah Morrow Bridge.  I noticed early in 2011 there was construction going on at the bridge, it didn't take too long to ascertain they were doing a replacement.  So I immediately went to the ODOT website to see what they were doing and much to my dismay I found the replacement was going to be a cantilevered hollow box girder bridge.  So I posed the question to ODOT why they were not replacing the Morrow Bridge with a suspension or cable stayed span because it's only 1/2 a mile from apron to apron on the bridge right now and a span like this would keep the valley floor from being "cluttered" with columns.  The Little Miami River Valley is very picturesque and is done a disservice with this bridge going over it.  But anyhow the ODOT rep responded saying "They don't do Suspension spans for that distance and that they are limiting the number of columns to keep things 'beautiful'".  Yea they are limiting it to about 5 columns and 1 single bridge instead of the parallel decktruss bridges it currently is but is 1/2 a mile really that difficult for a suspension or cable stayed bridge on an interstate highway, especially when it can be anchored right into the valley walls? 
 
Thanks
 
Wayne Grodkiewicz



-----Original Message-----
From: David D <david@...>
To: ManySpans <ManySpans@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Jan 12, 2012 9:51 am
Subject: [ManySpans] News: Fort Steuben Bridge Demolition Begins

 

http://www.news-register.net/page/content.detail/id/564282/Fort-Steuben-Bridge-Demolition-Begins.html?nav=510

Fort Steuben Bridge Demolition Begins
Part of span to be made an observation deck
January 12, 2012
By WARREN SCOTT - For The Intelligencer , The Intelligencer / Wheeling News-Register

Passersby on Ohio 7 or the Veterans Memorial Bridge may have noticed sparks flying from the older Fort Steuben Bridge and heavy equipment parked on it.

That's because crews with the Joseph B. Fay Co. of Russellton, Pa., have begun demolishing the 82-year-old span, which was closed in January 2009 by officials with the Ohio Department of Transportation, who said it had become too costly to repair and upgrade to meet current traffic conditions...


#1696 From: "David D" <david@...>
Date: Thu Feb 2, 2012 1:12 pm
Subject: News: Fort Steuben demolition blast set for Feb. 20
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http://www.heraldstaronline.com/page/content.detail/id/569746/Date-set--for-Fort\
--Steuben--Bridge--blast.html?nav=5010

February 1, 2012
By WARREN SCOTT - Staff writer (wscott@....) , The Herald-Star

STEUBENVILLE - The Ohio Department of Transportation has announced the date for
an explosive blast that will bring down the Fort Steuben Bridge.

Becky Giauque, spokeswoman for ODOT, said the blast will occur on Feb. 20 "as
close to daylight as possible" and more details, including its affect on
traffic, will be announced at a later date...

#1697 From: Rstynl@...
Date: Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:07 am
Subject: Check out Vermont Flood / Irene Hi-Res Gallery - August 31, 2011
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#1698 From: "tipa16384" <brendahol@...>
Date: Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:12 pm
Subject: Re: Check out Vermont Flood / Irene Hi-Res Gallery - August 31, 2011
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Such horrible devastation!

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> _Click here: Vermont  Flood / Irene Hi-Res Gallery - August 31, 2011_
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