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Re: Darkfield and high magnification

--- In Microscope@yahoogroups.com, "rhamvossen" <r.vossen@...> wrote:

Hi Rolf,

Thanks for your response. I feel I should try out the COL illumination you are
suggesting. I do have a 40x U-Plan Apochromat NA 0.90 dry objective. I have used
it with my darkfield condenser with excellent results. However, to answer your
question about the high magnification: I am fascinated by protists and bacteria.
I know that some very lovely-looking flagellates require this magnification for
their interesting forms to be appreciated. I assume that higher NA with an oil
immersion would give sharper rendition of these subjects. The thing is that I am
using a home-configured bellows system and it's difficult to estimate the
overall magnification when I raise the bellow height and I realised that with
dry lenses, you end up with empty magnification blurr very quickly.
I try your advice, Rolf and thank you again for helping.
>
> Hi,
>
> Using a 100/1.25 with a 1.2-1.4 darkfield condenser will give you COL
(circular oblique lighting) which is in itself a very impressive illumination
technique. If you just want to have darkfield at higher magnification then the
investment in a high NA dry or water immersion objective is worthwile. What
about a normal 60/0.85 objective, that's nearly in the magnification range that
you want. For what do you need the 1000x darkfield?
>
> Rolf
>
>
> --- In Microscope@yahoogroups.com, "grimra" <ralphg@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am using darkfield illumination for most of my microscope work. It's so
beautiful with the jet-black background and microorganisms looking like Chinese
lamps floating through the night.
> > I have a question though: I want to use higher magnification of say,
700-1000x using an oil immersion objective such as an 100x Olympus Planachromat
with an NA of 1.25 for a BX50 microscope. I am using a cardioid oil darkfield
condenser with an NA of 1.40. Can I use this objective with the condenser as it
is, or do I have to use a stop of some sort for such an objective?
> > Thank so much.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ralph
> >
>





Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:42 am

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Hi all, I am using darkfield illumination for most of my microscope work. It's so beautiful with the jet-black background and microorganisms looking like...
grimra
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Jul 11, 2009
12:26 am

It depends on the lower na of the condenser. If it's under 1.25 you wont get dark field. Many of these go from na 1.2 to 1.4 as a for instance so max na of the...
a.johnw
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Jul 11, 2009
10:04 am

Hi Ralph, The condenser you're using has an NA probably between 1.2 - 1.4. Therefore, unless the objective is stopped down to around unity you will achieve...
Ron Lisk
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Jul 11, 2009
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Hi Ron, I also want to thank you for replying to my darkfield situation. Yes, you are right, my condenser has that NA range. I think, what I will do is just...
grimra
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Jul 12, 2009
12:52 am

Hi, Using a 100/1.25 with a 1.2-1.4 darkfield condenser will give you COL (circular oblique lighting) which is in itself a very impressive illumination...
rhamvossen
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Jul 11, 2009
7:14 pm

... Hi Rolf, Thanks for your response. I feel I should try out the COL illumination you are suggesting. I do have a 40x U-Plan Apochromat NA 0.90 dry...
grimra
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Jul 12, 2009
12:42 am

Hi Ralph, Your assumption that higher NA will give sharper images is only correct if the magnification stays the same. A 100/1.25 oil objective will not give...
rhamvossen
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Jul 12, 2009
2:48 pm

Hi Rolf "Sharpness" isn't as simple as that. Say the 40x has an na of 0.9 and is being used at 800x on a specimen that has detail that exploits it's...
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Jul 12, 2009
4:44 pm

Hi John, I said that higher NA gives sharper images when the magnifation stays the same. So, a 40/0.9 gives sharper images then a 40/0.65. I meant the 40/0.9...
rhamvossen
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Jul 13, 2009
10:20 am

Rolf, A stunning lens indeed! I make that 32 on Mr. Nelson's optical index. And no doubt, being a neofluar it can stand a high power eyepiece. Do you find...
Ron Lisk
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Jul 13, 2009
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Ron, I don't have anything higher yet than 10x eyepieces. Maybe I will look for 15x eyepieces. By the way, it's actually a multi-immersion lens (glycerin, oil...
rhamvossen
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Jul 13, 2009
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Hi Rolf, That makes perfect sense. Those Plan-Neofluar multi-immersions are some of the best 160mm lenses Zeiss made, designed in the very late 1970s,...
Kevin Sunley
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