On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 05:09:21PM -0600, Joel Davidson wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, it would appear that Greg Moeller wrote:
>
> > Marc MERLIN wrote:
> >> On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 11:52:37AM -0600, Greg Moeller wrote:
> >>
> >>> I just bought an rc-80 off ebay and it seems to have been using an
> >>> external temp sensor (there's three wires coming off the back of the unit)
> >>> What would I buy to get an internal temp sensor again?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Mmmh, really?
> >>
> >> Can you send a picture of your unit so that we can compare?
> >> (as far as I know the internal temp sensor is not supposed to be removed,
> >> unless it was unsoldered somehow).
> >>
> >> Marc
> >>
> > Here's a couple of pics of the unit.
> >
> > http://picasaweb.google.com/skywise/Rc80Thermostat#
>
>    I just took a look at my RC80, and the 3 pads are empty where you
>    have the wires.  The temperature sensor is above the slot in the
>    pcb just to the left of the pads where your wires are.  I don't
>    recognize the sensor at all, so have no suggestions on a source.
>    As I mentioned in my other note your best bet might be HAI.  If you
>    can get a part number from them we ought to be able to find a source,
>    or else maybe you can buy the sensor directly from HAI.
>
>    Joel

Here's a picture of mine, you'll see the stock temp sensor that's supposed
to be there.

You will see on mine where the stock 2 wire temp sensor is.
http://marc.merlins.org/tmp/p1090351.jpg

Greg, between you and me, a fully working RC-80 on Ebay is $50.
The fact that you got one without a temp sensor somehow is not right. The
amount of time and effort that may be required to make yours work may not be
worth it.

If it were me, I would return it to the Ebay seller for a refund: a unit
without a temp sensor is a useless unit.

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On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, it would appear that Greg Moeller wrote:

> Marc MERLIN wrote:
>> On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 11:52:37AM -0600, Greg Moeller wrote:
>>
>>> I just bought an rc-80 off ebay and it seems to have been using an
>>> external temp sensor (there's three wires coming off the back of the unit)
>>> What would I buy to get an internal temp sensor again?
>>>
>>
>> Mmmh, really?
>>
>> Can you send a picture of your unit so that we can compare?
>> (as far as I know the internal temp sensor is not supposed to be removed,
>> unless it was unsoldered somehow).
>>
>> Marc
>>
> Here's a couple of pics of the unit.
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/skywise/Rc80Thermostat#
>
>
> Greg

    I just took a look at my RC80, and the 3 pads are empty where you
    have the wires.  The temperature sensor is above the slot in the
    pcb just to the left of the pads where your wires are.  I don't
    recognize the sensor at all, so have no suggestions on a source.
    As I mentioned in my other note your best bet might be HAI.  If you
    can get a part number from them we ought to be able to find a source,
    or else maybe you can buy the sensor directly from HAI.

    Joel


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Marc MERLIN wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 11:52:37AM -0600, Greg Moeller wrote:
>
>> I just bought an rc-80 off ebay and it seems to have been using an
>> external temp sensor (there's three wires coming off the back of the unit)
>> What would I buy to get an internal temp sensor again?
>>
>
> Mmmh, really?
>
> Can you send a picture of your unit so that we can compare?
> (as far as I know the internal temp sensor is not supposed to be removed,
> unless it was unsoldered somehow).
>
> Marc
>
Here's a couple of pics of the unit.

http://picasaweb.google.com/skywise/Rc80Thermostat#


Greg


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You might consider checking with HAI.  They ought to be able to
tell you what you need.

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On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, it would appear that Greg Moeller wrote:

> I just bought an rc-80 off ebay and it seems to have been using an
> external temp sensor (there's three wires coming off the back of the unit)
> What would I buy to get an internal temp sensor again?
> (part number and/or digi-key part URL?)
>
> Thanks
>
> Greg
>

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On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 11:52:37AM -0600, Greg Moeller wrote:
> I just bought an rc-80 off ebay and it seems to have been using an
> external temp sensor (there's three wires coming off the back of the unit)
> What would I buy to get an internal temp sensor again?

Mmmh, really?

Can you send a picture of your unit so that we can compare?
(as far as I know the internal temp sensor is not supposed to be removed,
unless it was unsoldered somehow).

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I just bought an rc-80 off ebay and it seems to have been using an
external temp sensor (there's three wires coming off the back of the unit)
What would I buy to get an internal temp sensor again?
(part number and/or digi-key part URL?)

Thanks

Greg


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On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 09:41:15AM -0500, Daniel Arnold wrote:
> Pete,
>
> For now I've got the pages in my_mh/bin and I've modified the my_mh
> menu.html file to point to them.  I would like to find a way to make them
> show up in HVAC, but I'm not sure how.  I did find that if I changed the

Yes, it's an old message :)

Now that we have that out of the way, I've been trying to integrate the
omnistat widgets in mh before I commit the code.
Since I got no suggestions when I last asked, I tried some more.

So, I have
http://myserver/my_mh/
working

But I can't see which frame my_mh is supposed to appear in. Clicking on the
buttons does nothing, likely because I'm not in an iframe.
So, where is stuff in my_mh supposed to show up in misterhouse?

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I just removed an Equinox ESP16  from my MH implementation, and
thought it might prove useful to someone else.  It lets you access
serial devices over the LAND. I finally moved all my serial to the
same place on the same server, so I don't need  it anymore.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&&item=300374811605

I'll even knock off $25 off the already great deal and provide my
hand-build converters if someone's interested; just email me.

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On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 10:14:50PM -0500, Gregg Liming wrote:
> my guess is that you didn't enable code/common/x10_item_commands.pl.
> Remember that such things are protocol specific and not interface
> specific.  Just because you enable an entirely different protocol (e.g.,
> insteon) doesn't mean that you'll magically get a new one (e.g., x10).

That's what I was missing all along. I just added that and I'll add it to
the insteon docs too, thanks.

> If I enable the above, I get the applicable voice commands for my one
> lonely x10 module still controlled by my plm.

works here too now.

Thanks,
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Gregg Liming wrote:

> my guess is that you didn't enable code/common/x10_item_commands.pl.

The good news for insteon users in the future (once the new code base
comes on line) is that you won't have to worry about enabling the
insteon item commands as it will just automagically happen.  But, not so
for all other modules.  Again, this is insteon-specific; everything else
remains the same (enable as you need it).


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Marc MERLIN wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 08:28:55PM -0500, Jim Duda wrote:
>> On 12/05/2009 08:14 PM, Marc MERLIN wrote:
>>
>>> That was for the original poster, but I'm sure he'll appreciate the help.
>>>
>>> It also confirmed that Insteon does not create voice commands for X10 items.
>> Ah, right.
>>
>> In my case, my X10 items fall under something other than insteon.
>
> But do you use insteon or a cm15a?
>
>> In my case, I find Lights:something
>
> No such in my command list.

my guess is that you didn't enable code/common/x10_item_commands.pl.
Remember that such things are protocol specific and not interface
specific.  Just because you enable an entirely different protocol (e.g.,
insteon) doesn't mean that you'll magically get a new one (e.g., x10).

If I enable the above, I get the applicable voice commands for my one
lonely x10 module still controlled by my plm.

Gregg

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On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 08:28:55PM -0500, Jim Duda wrote:
> On 12/05/2009 08:14 PM, Marc MERLIN wrote:
>
> >
> > That was for the original poster, but I'm sure he'll appreciate the help.
> >
> > It also confirmed that Insteon does not create voice commands for X10 items.
>
> Ah, right.
>
> In my case, my X10 items fall under something other than insteon.

But do you use insteon or a cm15a?

> In my case, I find Lights:something

No such in my command list.

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On 12/05/2009 08:14 PM, Marc MERLIN wrote:

>
> That was for the original poster, but I'm sure he'll appreciate the help.
>
> It also confirmed that Insteon does not create voice commands for X10 items.

Ah, right.

In my case, my X10 items fall under something other than insteon.

In my case, I find Lights:something

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On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 10:18:31AM -0500, Jim Duda wrote:
> On 12/05/2009 08:17 AM, Daniel Durgin wrote:
>
> >>> I am new to misterhouse so I am sure I have missed something.
> >>>
> >>> When I try to send a command via mhsend to my x10 device I get an error:
> >>>
> >>> ./mhsend -run "OutsideDeck off"
> >>
> >> 1) try without the 2 spaces
> >> 2) try outsidedeck lowercase
> >>
> >> But basically I've found voice commands (what you call with mhsend),
> >> weird
> >> and not very easy to figure out.
> >>
> >> Marc
>
> Marc,
>
> Try MisterHouseHome->BrowseMisterhouse->List Voice Commands.
>
> Misterhouse will respond in the bottom of the browser with the list of
> possible voice commands.

That's useful, thanks.

> Look for insteon::outsidedeck, or similiar.
> You want whatever fills in outsidedeck

That was for the original poster, but I'm sure he'll appreciate the help.

It also confirmed that Insteon does not create voice commands for X10 items.

Thanks,
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On 12/05/2009 08:17 AM, Daniel Durgin wrote:

>>> I am new to misterhouse so I am sure I have missed something.
>>>
>>> When I try to send a command via mhsend to my x10 device I get an error:
>>>
>>> ./mhsend -run "OutsideDeck off"
>>
>> 1) try without the 2 spaces
>> 2) try outsidedeck lowercase
>>
>> But basically I've found voice commands (what you call with mhsend),
>> weird
>> and not very easy to figure out.
>>
>> Marc

Marc,

Try MisterHouseHome->BrowseMisterhouse->List Voice Commands.

Misterhouse will respond in the bottom of the browser with the list of
possible voice commands.

Look for insteon::outsidedeck, or similiar.
You want whatever fills in outsidedeck

I just tried a similiar thing here and it works for me.

Good luck.

Jim


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Thank you for your reply.

I tried what you suggested, but it did not work.  I basically want to
verify that I can get Linux to interact with the modem.  I can get
windows on the same box to work.  But even plmtools hangs when I try to
send a command.

Is there something special I should do to the serial over USB modem?
setserial ...?

Thanks,
Dan

On 12/05/2009 02:40 AM, Marc MERLIN wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 11:20:59PM -0500, Daniel Durgin wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am new to misterhouse so I am sure I have missed something.
>>
>> When I try to send a command via mhsend to my x10 device I get an error:
>>
>> ./mhsend -run "OutsideDeck  off"
>
> 1) try without the 2 spaces
> 2) try outsidedeck lowercase
>
> But basically I've found voice commands (what you call with mhsend), weird
> and not very easy to figure out.
>
> Marc

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On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 11:20:59PM -0500, Daniel Durgin wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am new to misterhouse so I am sure I have missed something.
>
> When I try to send a command via mhsend to my x10 device I get an error:
>
> ./mhsend -run "OutsideDeck  off"

1) try without the 2 spaces
2) try outsidedeck lowercase

But basically I've found voice commands (what you call with mhsend), weird
and not very easy to figure out.

Marc
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Hello,

I am new to misterhouse so I am sure I have missed something.

When I try to send a command via mhsend to my x10 device I get an error:

./mhsend -run "OutsideDeck  off"
Sending 16 bytes of data to localhost port 8084, socket made, data sent
04/12/2009 23:14:30  Received server_data data: name=: action=run arg=
Running external command: OutsideDeck  off set by mhsend
04/12/2009 23:14:30  Command not found: OutsideDeck  off
mhsend_server: Command not found: OutsideDeck  off
Response: Command not found: OutsideDeck  off


insteon.mht:
Format = A
# -*- mode: perl-mode; -*-
#
# See mh/lib/read_table_A.pl  for definition of Format=A items
#

# My Insteon PLM Interface
INSTEON_PLM,   PLM,



# A DownStars
X10I, A1, OutsideGround, All_X10_lights|All_X10, PLM,

X10I, B1, OutsideDeck, All_X10_lights|All_X10, PLM,


OS fedora
    serial name=Insteon_PLM type=raw data2=
`��
     �
---
04/12/2009 23:20:19  [Insteon_PLM] Parsing serial data: 02600fdfd6030b8506
04/12/2009 23:20:19  [Insteon_PLM] PLM id: 0fdfd6 firmware: 85



Any Ideas what is wrong?

-Dan

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Gregg Liming <gregg <at> limings.net> writes:
>
> Unfortunately, what this implies is that the PID that is defined by zm
> Perl libs (not mine) does not exist.  I encountered this myself and
> realized that there were some permissions issues that I had to resolve.
>   In my case, the perl libs defined the location of the PID as
> /var/run/zm/zm.pid.
>
> So, it's a zm issue vice a zmxap issue.
>


Thanks Gregg, I'll pull the dirt back in this rabbithole for now and wait for an
update.





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Greg Satz wrote:
> This is a fairly old thread but another possibility would be to write
> an xPL gateway for this device. I added support for the xPL security
> schema to mh so there are objects for the security system (panel),
> areas (group of zones) and zone. The benefit is that the hardware is
> useful to anyone who uses xPL including mh users.

I definitely agree with your suggestion as well. Further, existing xPL
libraries and utility applications can ease the development time.

I probably have created the last xAP app/gateway as managing UIDs (which
essentially duplicate the address namespace) is a major hassle.  xPL is
much easier in many respects.  The more modern xPL schemas like lighting
and security especially help.

Gregg

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This is a fairly old thread but another possibility would be to write an xPL
gateway for this device. I added support for the xPL security schema to mh so
there are objects for the security system (panel), areas (group of zones) and
zone. The benefit is that the hardware is useful to anyone who uses xPL
including mh users.

Thanks,
Greg

On Dec 4, 2009, at 10:54 AM, Cpoc wrote:

>
> Hi Sean
>
> This project looks really good. There are a lots of people with 15p and 20p
> that would love the idea
> to have it talk to Misterhouse.
>
> Do you have a beta module that I can test.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sean Mathews-2 wrote:
>>
>> Hay All.
>>
>> I have desinged an ADEMCO/First Alert virtual keypad device called
>> AD2USB. This device allows a computer to directly connect to the ademco
>> keypad bus and act as a virtual keypad.
>>
>> More info can be found here http://www.nutech.com/forums/67.html
>>
>> Someone is already developing a plugin for homeseer and I am going to
>> be building a MH module. I already have a GUI that runs on linux and
>> windows as a virtual Ademco keypad.
>>
>> I have a few questions before I do this...
>>
>> What other alarm modules exist or maybe a better way to ask this what
>> other alarm panel modules are most supported. I want to build this
>> module as much as possible identical to an existing module so I can try
>> and conform to some standards?
>>
>> Does anyone here have any desire to help me in developing this module
>> who uses ademco and who has experience in mh coding.
>>
>> Re
>> Sean M


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Hi Sean

This project looks really good. There are a lots of people with 15p and 20p
that would love the idea
to have it talk to Misterhouse.

Do you have a beta module that I can test.





Sean Mathews-2 wrote:
>
> Hay All.
>
>  I have desinged an ADEMCO/First Alert virtual keypad device called
> AD2USB. This device allows a computer to directly connect to the ademco
> keypad bus and act as a virtual keypad.
>
> More info can be found here http://www.nutech.com/forums/67.html
>
>  Someone is already developing a plugin for homeseer and I am going to
> be building a MH module. I already have a GUI that runs on linux and
> windows as a virtual Ademco keypad.
>
>  I have a few questions before I do this...
>
>  What other alarm modules exist or maybe a better way to ask this what
> other alarm panel modules are most supported. I want to build this
> module as much as possible identical to an existing module so I can try
> and conform to some standards?
>
>  Does anyone here have any desire to help me in developing this module
> who uses ademco and who has experience in mh coding.
>
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Rob wrote:

> Cut and paste from zmxap.log below.  I assume this means zmxap is running
> although  it has never acknowledged ZM is running.  I know that it is.
>
> ======= xAP server starting at 09/12/01 19:27:44========
> 12/01/2009 19:27:49 [WARN] zm is not running

Unfortunately, what this implies is that the PID that is defined by zm
Perl libs (not mine) does not exist.  I encountered this myself and
realized that there were some permissions issues that I had to resolve.
   In my case, the perl libs defined the location of the PID as
/var/run/zm/zm.pid.

So, it's a zm issue vice a zmxap issue.

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Gregg Liming <gregg <at> limings.net> writes:
>

> xAP_send.pl is not relevant here regardless of what you're trying to do
> w/ mh and zm.
>

> It would probably help to know where what is running.  You have at least
> one *nix box running zm.  Does mh also run on it?  I'm assuming your
> reference to message viewer means that you have a pc running it?  Where
> are your hub(s) running (it appears that you're allowing mh to implement
> one of them)?
>

> So, let's ignore mh for the moment as that isn't (yet) relevant.  Do you
> see xAP messages coming from zmxap?

ZM and MH are running on same Ubuntu 9.10 machine.  MH is providing the hub at
present(one step at a time).  Startup procedure is manual with MH starting first
to obtain hub port, ZM service starts next and then the execution of zmxap.pl.
xFx Message Viewer is on XP machine(eolmachine) on same network.  Below is what
it sees:

xap-hbeat
{
v=12
hop=1
uid=FFEA0900
class=xap-hbeat.alive
source=zm.zoneminder.house
interval=60
port=49154
pid=7177
}


xap-hbeat
{
v=13
Hop=1
UID=FF153D00
Class=xap-hbeat.alive
Source=xFx.Viewer.eolmachine
Interval=60
Port=3639
PID=2960
}


xap-hbeat
{
v=12
hop=1
uid=FFE90000
class=xap-hbeat.alive
source=mhouse.mh.misterhouse.core
interval=60
port=49152
pid=24918
}
Cut and paste from zmxap.log below.  I assume this means zmxap is running
although  it has never acknowledged ZM is running.  I know that it is.

======= xAP server starting at 09/12/01 19:27:44========
12/01/2009 19:27:49 [WARN] zm is not running
12/01/2009 19:27:59 [WARN] zm is not running
12/01/2009 19:28:09 [WARN] zm is not running
12/01/2009 19:28:19 [WARN] zm is not running
12/01/2009 19:28:29 [WARN] zm is not running





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Rob wrote:
> Still struggling with xAP output.  dir_code_common points to xAP_send.pl

xAP_send.pl is not relevant here regardless of what you're trying to do
w/ mh and zm.

> and it
> seems that the hub is working correctly with xAP heartbeat message received on
> xAP viewer.

It would probably help to know where what is running.  You have at least
one *nix box running zm.  Does mh also run on it?  I'm assuming your
reference to message viewer means that you have a pc running it?  Where
are your hub(s) running (it appears that you're allowing mh to implement
one of them)?

> Below is the relevant code.  I would expect to see an alarm message
> directed to zm.zoneminder.house:bighouse when the den monitor senses motion
but
> it never happens.  Help please?

So, let's ignore mh for the moment as that isn't (yet) relevant.  Do you
see xAP messages coming from zmxap?

Gregg

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Still struggling with xAP output.  dir_code_common points to xAP_send.pl and it
seems that the hub is working correctly with xAP heartbeat message received on
xAP viewer.  Below is the relevant code.  I would expect to see an alarm message
directed to zm.zoneminder.house:bighouse when the den monitor senses motion but
it never happens.  Help please?

>From mh.private.ini

	 ipaddress_xap_broadcast = 192.168.0.255
	 ipaddress_xap = 192.168.0.3

>From items.mht

	 ZM_MONITOR, bighouse, bighouse_monitor

Code snippet from security_control.pl

	 if (state_now $den_sensor eq "motion")
{
	 if(time_greater_than("$time_last + 00:01"))
	 {
	 $bighouse_monitor->start_alarm('test alarm');
	 print ("bighouse alarm triggered at $Time_Now\n");
         speak("echo=xap Message is sent");
	 $time_last = $Time_Now;
	 }
}


Output from executing ./mhl

Loading other modules
Starting setup
  - using simple Text distance function
  - reading previous log files
  - archiving previous /home/rob/misterhouse/data/logs/*.log files ....
  - read 1 trigger entries
  - creating http            on tcp   1080 buffered
  - creating server mhsend   on tcp   8084 buffered
  - creating server telnet   on tcp   1234 raw
  - creating xap_send        on udp  3639 send
  - creating xap_hub_listen  on udp  3639 listen
  - mh in xAP Hub mode
  - creating xap_listen_core on udp 49152 listen
  - creating xap_send_49152  on udp 49152 send
  - creating xpl_send        on udp  3865 send
  - creating xpl_listen      on udp 49153 listen
  - mh automatically switching out of xPL Hub mode.  Another application is
binding to the hub port (3865)
  - creating xpl_hub_listen  on udp       listen
Notice. xPL socket (xpl_hub_listen) had been closed and has been reopened
  - creating cm11 port on /dev/ttyS0
  - process id 18864 written to /home/rob/misterhouse/data/mh.pid
  - external command file (xcmd_file): ./../house_cmd.txt
  - HTML file     : ./../webia5/index.shtml
Done with setup

xAP Viewer output from MH

xap-hbeat
{
v=12
hop=1
uid=FFE90000
class=xap-hbeat.alive
source=mhouse.mh.misterhouse.core
interval=60
port=49152
pid=18864
}



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Marc MERLIN wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 02:33:10PM -0500, Gregg Liming wrote:

>> I'm wondering what is the best way to comment on things that are added?
>>   I can delimit mine w/ my initials or first name.  But, if there's a
>> better convention, then I'm up for suggestions.  I'm mostly thinking
>> about best ways to request clarification of certain items.  As a
>> specific example, "... should properly handle ..." is ambiguous.  No
>> doubt, I'll add my own ambiguous stuff as well.
>
> Right. I was written quickly :)
> I put [mm] next to all my lines and feel free to modify/correct them as
> appropriate.

Ok.  If I have elaborations/comments beyond what you entered, I'll try
to attribute them as mine.  That way we don't start wondering who's
writing what.

> My original idea is that you'd take requested lines and move them in the
> right bucket. Feel free to modify/move the lines I put in the Fix bucket
> directly :)

My very first reaction at seeing that list was--wow!--that's a bunch
more stuff than is already on my list.  But, after thinking more, pretty
much all of the fix bucket items do belong there as getting to them will
validate the design.

Thanks for adding your stuff so quickly.  I'll work on adding mine in as
well (so that I can at least claim some form of progress).  I'm finding
that some of the latest revisions to implement serialized queuing is
making a big difference to reliability and an absence of forced retries.

Gregg

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On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 02:33:10PM -0500, Gregg Liming wrote:
> Marc MERLIN wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 11:23:16AM -0500, Gregg Liming wrote:
> >> Hi Marc,
> >>
> >> Seeing your note caused me to think that I/we should think about
> >> creating a new "InsteonRedux" page that would document all of the
> >> candidate, planned and completed changes that are part of the new
> >> insteon code base.
> >
> > Sure thing. There you go:
> > http://misterhouse.wikispaces.com/Insteon+Redux
>
> Thanks, Marc!
>
> I'm wondering what is the best way to comment on things that are added?
>   I can delimit mine w/ my initials or first name.  But, if there's a
> better convention, then I'm up for suggestions.  I'm mostly thinking
> about best ways to request clarification of certain items.  As a
> specific example, "... should properly handle ..." is ambiguous.  No
> doubt, I'll add my own ambiguous stuff as well.

Right. I was written quickly :)
I put [mm] next to all my lines and feel free to modify/correct them as
appropriate.
My original idea is that you'd take requested lines and move them in the
right bucket. Feel free to modify/move the lines I put in the Fix bucket
directly :)

Marc
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On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 14:28 -0500, Gregg Liming wrote:
> George Farris wrote:
> >
> > I'd also like to see an documented API for Insteon.
>
> I agree.  I definitely tend to forget how things are
> designed--especially, the new design that while I think is more modular
> is decidedly more involved.
>
> > Gregg if you send
> > me the new code (tarball) I can start.
>
> Well, things are still in a very major amount of flux.  So, while I'm
> happy to send you the tarball, *very* major changes are occurring and
> will continue to occur at least up through the end of the year.  The
> second that you start to document something, it may well be completely
> changed the next hour.

Well if you are comfortable I can have a look.  It will certainly take
some time to get familiar with the code so the earlier I can look the
better but I will of course defer to your comfort level:-)

Cheers
George



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Marc MERLIN wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 11:23:16AM -0500, Gregg Liming wrote:
>> Hi Marc,
>>
>> Seeing your note caused me to think that I/we should think about
>> creating a new "InsteonRedux" page that would document all of the
>> candidate, planned and completed changes that are part of the new
>> insteon code base.
>
> Sure thing. There you go:
> http://misterhouse.wikispaces.com/Insteon+Redux

Thanks, Marc!

I'm wondering what is the best way to comment on things that are added?
   I can delimit mine w/ my initials or first name.  But, if there's a
better convention, then I'm up for suggestions.  I'm mostly thinking
about best ways to request clarification of certain items.  As a
specific example, "... should properly handle ..." is ambiguous.  No
doubt, I'll add my own ambiguous stuff as well.

Gregg

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