----- Original Message -----

From: Elizabeth Canova

To: Multidimensionalman@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:33 PM

Subject: Re: [Multidimensionalman] The one who loves

 

That was absolutely beautiful!  Thank you, Aham  :o)

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From: aham <aham@ewetel.net>
To: millionpaths <MillionPaths@yahoogroups.com>; SSH <Spiritual_Self_Healing@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: quest <beaquest@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, December 23, 2009 3:18:52 AM
Subject: [Multidimensionalman] The one who loves

 

The one who loves

 

The one who loves dances and provides a spectrum with such creativity, what people just can admire and look at with astonishment or abhor and condemn. Out of astonishment and admiring people can join the voyage. Out of abhor and condemnation people will stay in the surviving system.

 

The dance of lovers…

We can live with a self consciousness. We can survive with a consciousness crossing over our selves. People survive with a survival consciousness and think; they can determine life with it.

This is impossible, because life has to be loved and must be celebrated. The words of a loving being are dancing, filled with love and based on truth, out of his mouth.

Words carried by self consciousness meets the other ones like playing a game.

Words, coming out of the inner most core of their being, creating the longed for harmony in loving.

Words, communicating and organising that all the cells of the body are involved in a tinkling feeling of excitement. It is the dance of words……

Eyes full of love communicate in silent dance visions, wishes and imaginations of a happy world.

Eyes in total surrender, they take in the loved one, they sparkle in the dancing light of the inspiration, when they merge. Arms, hands, feet, belly, yes the whole body is in exciting, when love reveals. When love reveals….

 

Self experiences clear up,

that love is limited by education and the dance of love is by this imprisoned,

that love can be freed from education, when the human being decides to love himself,

that love first now can be lived and be loved inside a relationship, just because both do love themselves.

Self experiencing is like a dance freed from norms and values, becoming that individual, a human being becomes more and more authentic.

 

The living room of love….

Everyone needs a living room, in which he can evolve, discover, love and live himself. Just a small number of us people, this are the religious rebels, this are the Buddha’s, have found this room. Many of us are on the road, for creating this loving space and to plan a life in love. The majority however survives in surviving rooms, developed by survival strategies.

Some have learned to create this living room, because they take their life in their own hands, by doing that what the want to do, by saying that what they want to say, by living that what they want to live. They don’t do anymore what is prescribed. They don’t just talk about something. They do what is right for themselves and the living room for love arises, out of himself. This room arises out of dignity and love. They love themselves. They love their body, their psyche, their spirit, their soul by this they create in their own being, in their own body and psyche a room for the soul increasing more and more, until the soul has found her space in every cell of the body. There the dance of the soul can happen again. They relive a rebirth and experience by themselves what it means, to free the inner space from the blocks of the past.

 

They experience self,

that therefore is needed a great amount of power, for recover this space, 

that they do need support and companionship by self conscious and self experienced people, for to discover these inner spaces,

that this inner love space too allows an outer love space inside relationships,

that the inner love space too can be fulfilled with universal free energy, when they are ready for it.

They live with a wish to experience this all by themselves, no matter where this happens, in a group, in relationships or in the all day life. Their life is just a total self experience happening.

 

Creativity….

The circle of destroying and construction is closed in itself, when determined and confirmed by might. Creativity does not suit in the circle of duality. Life is always anew and can not repeat. Life is always creative. A human being can come out of his instructed way of thinking for becoming creative by himself. The creative human being lives and loves by an impulse coming from the inside.

He is unique in his actions and in tune with himself. He is a life artist and his whole live follows a “red thread” of a row of coupled experiences in which he chooses between might and love. He just can choose whether he is creative and lives something new or not. He is aware of this choice, and by that creative! He is always him self and stand inside his creativity. Creativity is like an ongoing rebirth. Repetition is not creative!

Therefore it is impossible to describe what creativity is, because of the ongoing transformation in life. Creativity arises, becomes possible when a human being does something new and is experiencing this.

 

Creativity in relationship… ..

It evolves,

when the partners dive deeper into their relationship,

when the relationships are open and manifold,

when new relationships are found.

It can be experienced when might disappears more and more out of this relationships. Because love creates more living space, in which life can evolve. We only can experience this by our selves, because this kind of creativity nobody else can judge over it.

 

Aham

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Susan Crosswait

To: Multidimensionalman@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 5:22 PM

Subject: Re: [Multidimensionalman] The one who loves

 

when there is nothing to defend, when one cannot get mud on one's face as one's face does not exist, when one is purely open, surrendered, one is in love.  it is the only thing true, all else is a shadow of.

 

and the orbiting dance sings

 

Merriest Christmas Dear Brother AHAM

 

Susan

----- Original Message -----

From: aham

To: millionpaths ; SSH

Cc: quest

Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 3:18 AM

Subject: [Multidimensionalman] The one who loves

The one who loves

The one who loves dances and provides a spectrum with such creativity, what people just can admire and look at with astonishment or abhor and condemn. Out of astonishment and admiring people can join the voyage. Out of abhor and condemnation people will stay in the surviving system.

The dance of lovers�

We can live with a self consciousness. We can survive with a consciousness crossing over our selves. People survive with a survival consciousness and think; they can determine life with it.

This is impossible, because life has to be loved and must be celebrated. The words of a loving being are dancing, filled with love and based on truth, out of his mouth.

Words carried by self consciousness meets the other ones like playing a game.

Words, coming out of the inner most core of their being, creating the longed for harmony in loving.

Words, communicating and organising that all the cells of the body are involved in a tinkling feeling of excitement. It is the dance of words��

Eyes full of love communicate in silent dance visions, wishes and imaginations of a happy world.

Eyes in total surrender, they take in the loved one, they sparkle in the dancing light of the inspiration, when they merge. Arms, hands, feet, belly, yes the whole body is in exciting, when love reveals. When love reveals�.

Self experiences clear up,

that love is limited by education and the dance of love is by this imprisoned,

that love can be freed from education, when the human being decides to love himself,

that love first now can be lived and be loved inside a relationship, just because both do love themselves.

Self experiencing is like a dance freed from norms and values, becoming that individual, a human being becomes more and more authentic.

The living room of love�.

Everyone needs a living room, in which he can evolve, discover, love and live himself. Just a small number of us people, this are the religious rebels, this are the Buddha�s, have found this room. Many of us are on the road, for creating this loving space and to plan a life in love. The majority however survives in surviving rooms, developed by survival strategies.

Some have learned to create this living room, because they take their life in their own hands, by doing that what the want to do, by saying that what they want to say, by living that what they want to live. They don�t do anymore what is prescribed. They don�t just talk about something. They do what is right for themselves and the living room for love arises, out of himself. This room arises out of dignity and love. They love themselves. They love their body, their psyche, their spirit, their soul by this they create in their own being, in their own body and psyche a room for the soul increasing more and more, until the soul has found her space in every cell of the body. There the dance of the soul can happen again. They relive a rebirth and experience by themselves what it means, to free the inner space from the blocks of the past.

They experience self,

that therefore is needed a great amount of power, for recover this space, 

that they do need support and companionship by self conscious and self experienced people, for to discover these inner spaces,

that this inner love space too allows an outer love space inside relationships,

that the inner love space too can be fulfilled with universal free energy, when they are ready for it.

They live with a wish to experience this all by themselves, no matter where this happens, in a group, in relationships or in the all day life. Their life is just a total self experience happening.

Creativity�.

The circle of destroying and construction is closed in itself, when determined and confirmed by might. Creativity does not suit in the circle of duality. Life is always anew and can not repeat. Life is always creative. A human being can come out of his instructed way of thinking for becoming creative by himself. The creative human being lives and loves by an impulse coming from the inside.

He is unique in his actions and in tune with himself. He is a life artist and his whole live follows a �red thread� of a row of coupled experiences in which he chooses between might and love. He just can choose whether he is creative and lives something new or not. He is aware of this choice, and by that creative! He is always him self and stand inside his creativity. Creativity is like an ongoing rebirth. Repetition is not creative!

Therefore it is impossible to describe what creativity is, because of the ongoing transformation in life. Creativity arises, becomes possible when a human being does something new and is experiencing this.

Creativity in relationship�..

It evolves,

when the partners dive deeper into their relationship,

when the relationships are open and manifold,

when new relationships are found.

It can be experienced when might disappears more and more out of this relationships. Because love creates more living space, in which life can evolve. We only can experience this by our selves, because this kind of creativity nobody else can judge over it.

Aham

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Cecil

To: Multidimensionalman@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 3:33 PM

Subject: [Multidimensionalman] Re: Fw: [FEMALEWITHIN] Spiral over Norway/Wingmakers Grand Portal?

 

I prefer the spiral in China:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyjetB7MBPM

If you watch carefully, it spins in a time-forward direction and then in a time-reversed direction; indicating, perhaps, that this is not a temporal phenomenon at all.

Similarly, when the video of the pyramid over red square is very significantly sped up, there does not appear to be any change at all in the observation of the pyramid; thus, if this is to be believed, clearly demonstrating that that pyramid is a time-independent phenomenon.

Michael Cecil

--- In Multidimensionalman@yahoogroups.com, Carol <wasaweg2001@...> wrote:
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>
>
>
>
> Blessings
>
> After having watched a few more video's on the Norway Spiral,
> it came to my mind about the Wingmakers Grand Portal and the
> Drawings in the Wingmakers Chambers
>
> http://wingmakers. com/reproduction s/chamber2prints .html
>
> It just seemed relevant for some reason.
>
> http://wingmakers. com/reproduction s/chamber3prints .html
>
> Perhaps it is discovery of the Grand Portal.
>
> Just a theory and I thought I would run it by you for your interest.
>
> Blessings and Love
>
> Carol
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from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was
thirsty and you gave me something to drink....Then the righteous will answer
Him, 'Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry and gave you food, or thirsty and
gave you something to drink?...' and the King will answer them, 'truly I tell
you, just as you did it to the least of these who are members of my family, you
did it to Me.'

                                             (Matthew 25:34-40)

Merry Christmas to all, Jneyam

----- Original Message -----

From: aham

To: millionpaths ; SSH

Cc: quest

Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 3:18 AM

Subject: [Multidimensionalman] The one who loves

The one who loves

 

The one who loves dances and provides a spectrum with such creativity, what people just can admire and look at with astonishment or abhor and condemn. Out of astonishment and admiring people can join the voyage. Out of abhor and condemnation people will stay in the surviving system.

 

The dance of lovers�

We can live with a self consciousness. We can survive with a consciousness crossing over our selves. People survive with a survival consciousness and think; they can determine life with it.

This is impossible, because life has to be loved and must be celebrated. The words of a loving being are dancing, filled with love and based on truth, out of his mouth.

Words carried by self consciousness meets the other ones like playing a game.

Words, coming out of the inner most core of their being, creating the longed for harmony in loving.

Words, communicating and organising that all the cells of the body are involved in a tinkling feeling of excitement. It is the dance of words��

Eyes full of love communicate in silent dance visions, wishes and imaginations of a happy world.

Eyes in total surrender, they take in the loved one, they sparkle in the dancing light of the inspiration, when they merge. Arms, hands, feet, belly, yes the whole body is in exciting, when love reveals. When love reveals�.

 

Self experiences clear up,

that love is limited by education and the dance of love is by this imprisoned,

that love can be freed from education, when the human being decides to love himself,

that love first now can be lived and be loved inside a relationship, just because both do love themselves.

Self experiencing is like a dance freed from norms and values, becoming that individual, a human being becomes more and more authentic.

 

The living room of love�.

Everyone needs a living room, in which he can evolve, discover, love and live himself. Just a small number of us people, this are the religious rebels, this are the Buddha�s, have found this room. Many of us are on the road, for creating this loving space and to plan a life in love. The majority however survives in surviving rooms, developed by survival strategies.

Some have learned to create this living room, because they take their life in their own hands, by doing that what the want to do, by saying that what they want to say, by living that what they want to live. They don�t do anymore what is prescribed. They don�t just talk about something. They do what is right for themselves and the living room for love arises, out of himself. This room arises out of dignity and love. They love themselves. They love their body, their psyche, their spirit, their soul by this they create in their own being, in their own body and psyche a room for the soul increasing more and more, until the soul has found her space in every cell of the body. There the dance of the soul can happen again. They relive a rebirth and experience by themselves what it means, to free the inner space from the blocks of the past.

 

They experience self,

that therefore is needed a great amount of power, for recover this space, 

that they do need support and companionship by self conscious and self experienced people, for to discover these inner spaces,

that this inner love space too allows an outer love space inside relationships,

that the inner love space too can be fulfilled with universal free energy, when they are ready for it.

They live with a wish to experience this all by themselves, no matter where this happens, in a group, in relationships or in the all day life. Their life is just a total self experience happening.

 

Creativity�.

The circle of destroying and construction is closed in itself, when determined and confirmed by might. Creativity does not suit in the circle of duality. Life is always anew and can not repeat. Life is always creative. A human being can come out of his instructed way of thinking for becoming creative by himself. The creative human being lives and loves by an impulse coming from the inside.

He is unique in his actions and in tune with himself. He is a life artist and his whole live follows a �red thread� of a row of coupled experiences in which he chooses between might and love. He just can choose whether he is creative and lives something new or not. He is aware of this choice, and by that creative! He is always him self and stand inside his creativity. Creativity is like an ongoing rebirth. Repetition is not creative!

Therefore it is impossible to describe what creativity is, because of the ongoing transformation in life. Creativity arises, becomes possible when a human being does something new and is experiencing this.

 

Creativity in relationship�..

It evolves,

when the partners dive deeper into their relationship,

when the relationships are open and manifold,

when new relationships are found.

It can be experienced when might disappears more and more out of this relationships. Because love creates more living space, in which life can evolve. We only can experience this by our selves, because this kind of creativity nobody else can judge over it.

 

Aham

 

Thanks Michael for giving us your views, which are obviously the profound
results obtained from long experience in these matters.

Even though they do not all agree with what I think! Grin!

However I believe our differences of opinion are about matters which become
superficial when compared to the fundamental laws of ethics:  namely
Unconditional Love, and Forgiveness.

Joe

--- In Multidimensionalman@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Cecil" <mececil@...> wrote:
>
>
> --- In Multidimensionalman@yahoogroups.com, "JoeZaidan" <jnadiaz@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Michael Cecil,
> >
> > It is remarkable how many schools of thought exist with followers who
> believe blindly without understanding what it is that they believe!
>
> Its even more serious than that.
>
> According to J. Krishnamurti, thought, in and of itself, is the origin
> of duality and division and conflict and violence (although my view is
> that it is the 'movement' of self-reflection which is the source of all
> of the dependent dualities; whereas thought is merely an intensification
> of those dualities). Thus, religious beliefs are no different than any
> other kind of beliefs: ultimately they result in conflict and violence
> by their very nature.
>
> The information conveyed by Revelation, on the other hand, is not human
> thought.
>
> As Isaiah wrote: "As high as the heavens are above the earth are My
> thoughts [that is, the thoughts of the Creator] above your thoughts
> [that is, the thoughts of man]."
>
> The conflicts in the Middle East are a direct consequence of the fact
> that there has been a pandemic repudiation of the Revelations in favor
> of the theologies concocted by the 'thinker'-theologians.
> >
> > First of all we have to understand that we are complex Beings,
> incorporating in our body both lower personality features and spiritual
> features.
> > And when we die the lower physical bodies decompose, while the
> spiritual bodies rejoin the spiritual dimensions.
>
> I simply do not believe this.
>
> This is pagan metaphysical philosophy; of which there is no evidence
> whatsoever in the Revelations received by Moses, the prophets, Jesus or
> Mohammed.
> >
> > And in the spiritual dimensions we can find both spiritually evolved
> beings
>
> No such thing as "spiritual evolution".
>
> This is merely another human thought contradictory of the Revelations.
>
> >, such as Jesus, Mary, Buddha, Mohamad, and also other beings who have
> not evolved as much as They
>
> Such capitalization is suggestive of idolatrization of humans.
>
> > have.
> >
> > As for the Spiritual "Books" which have been written by Spiritual
> Beings, while they originally reflected the thoughts of these "Saints"
> they have since been rewritten and modified by the followers, each
> according to his own level of understanding.
> >
> > In my humble opinion there are two different sets of laws to study,
> understand, and follow:
> > The physical laws as taught at school and in the universities, and
> then the spiritual laws, which we call the "laws of ethics" which
> consist mainly of "unconditional" love, and Forgiveness. And it is this
> second set of teachings which the Saints have tried to teach while on
> Earth.
>
> According to the War Scroll--and to those Dead Sea Scrolls which speak
> of "Three Books"--there are three things that are involved in this:
>
> 1) the Moral Law;
>
> 2) the "book" of the relationship between man and the Creator, which
> includes the Memory of Creation and the memories of previous lives; and,
>
> 3) the book of Truth--see Daniel 10:20--which pertains to the truth
> about human consciousness, scientific truth and Revealed Truth.
>
> Michael Cecil
> >
> > Joe.
> >
> > --- In Multidimensionalman@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Cecil" mececil@
> wrote:
> > >
> > > This kind of idolatry and pagan metaphysical philosophy--such as the
> > > doctrine of vicarious atonement--led quite directly to the
> > > idolatrization of Jesus as God; the result of which was the
> Holocaust of
> > > millions of Jews over several hundred years of Christian
> anti-Semitism
> > > in Europe.
> > >
> > > In any case, there was no "immense guilt" in "original sin".
> > >
> > > The "original sin" consisted of nothing more than the 'movement' of
> > > self-reflection--symbolized by the "serpent" in Genesis 3 and the
> > > "dragon" in Revelations 12--which gave rise to both the "tree of the
> > > knowledge of good and evil"/"beast of the sea" consciousness of the
> > > "self" and the "beast of the earth" consciousness of the 'thinker'
> (the
> > > "fig leaves" used by Adam and Eve consisting of thoughts to preserve
> and
> > > protect the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil" consciousness
> of
> > > the "self"...
> > >
> > > The consciousness of the "self" and the 'thinker' comprising the
> > > 3-dimensional 'curved' space 'fallen' consciousness as opposed to
> the
> > > 2-dimensional 'flat' space "observing consciousness" Created 'by and
> in
> > > the image of God' in Genesis 1:27 and also described as the "tree of
> > > life" in Genesis 3:24: "the cherubs and the flame of a flashing
> sword to
> > > guard the way to the tree of life".
> > >
> > > Michael Cecil
> > >
> > > --- In Multidimensionalman@yahoogroups.com, ISchneuing@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Word of god
> > > > ... through Bertha Dudde   -  18.6.1958
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > God became visible in Jesus Christ....
> > > > Anyone who professes Me will also be admitted into My kingdom,
> for he
> > > will
> > > > already be an aspirant to My kingdom as soon as he has found  the
> path
> > > back
> > > > to Me from Whom he once separated of his own free will. He  no
> longer
> > > > acknowledged Me, and this was the sin against Me, his God and
> Creator
> > > of
> > > > eternity, which could not be redeemed in any other way than
> through
> > > the conscious
> > > > acknowledgement of Me Myself.... And in order to  enable the human
> > > being to
> > > > do so I personified Myself in the human being  Jesus.... For the
> > > reason for
> > > > apostasy from Me rested in the fact that My  living creations were
> > > unable to
> > > > behold Me.... Hence they turned to the one  who was visible to
> them
> > > who, in
> > > > a manner of speaking, participated in  their emergence and who,
> > > despite
> > > > greatest awareness, volitionally  dissociated himself from the
> Deity
> > > Whom he,
> > > > too, was unable to behold. And  thus I became a visible God for
> you
> > > humans in
> > > > Jesus Christ, and as a  result of My human manifestation the
> reason to
> > > deny
> > > > Me acknowledgment  actually no longer applied.... But now the
> > > > acknowledgment of Me at the  same time also requires the
> > > acknowledgment of Jesus Christ's
> > > > act of  Salvation....
> > > > Due to the immense guilt of the original sin a redemption from  it
> > > became
> > > > necessary for you humans, the guilt had to be redeemed first
> because
> > > I could
> > > > not accept sinful living creations anymore, or, My justice
> demanded
> > > an
> > > > atonement for this guilt which only then would restore the  former
> > > relationship
> > > > between the living creations and Myself again....  which had been
> > > disrupted
> > > > by the said sin. This act of atonement for  humankind was thus
> offered
> > > by
> > > > the human being Jesus; nevertheless, I  manifested Myself in this
> > > human being
> > > > Jesus for I wanted to redeem  you humans from the great guilt
> Myself,
> > > it is
> > > > just that I had to  avail Myself of a human cover which then,
> however,
> > > > should eternally  shelter Me within itself, so that My beings
> would be
> > > able to
> > > > behold their  God and Creator, so that they would be able to
> recognise
> > > and
> > > > love their  Father in Him, Whom they then could wholeheartedly
> > > approach
> > > > without having  to vanish as a result of His fire of love....
> > > > And thus everyone who acknowledges the divine Redeemer Jesus
> Christ
> > > has
> > > > started the path of return into the Father's house, because he
> > > simultaneously
> > > > acknowledges Me Myself in Him and, as a result of the act  of
> > > Salvation,
> > > > his original sin is redeemed. He will therefore also be  admitted
> into
> > > My
> > > > kingdom, I will come to meet My child as Father, for I  Myself
> never
> > > separated
> > > > from him, I merely accepted his will which had  turned away from
> Me
> > > because
> > > > it was free. And thus free will has to  become active again and
> strive
> > > to
> > > > return to Me. This is demonstrated by  the person through his
> > > conscious
> > > > acknowledgment of Jesus Christ and His  act of Salvation and the
> > > conscious
> > > > relationship with Him through his call  and appeal for
> deliverance.
> > > For he knows
> > > > that he is restricted as long as  he has not yet found Me in Jesus
> > > Christ.
> > > > The acknowledgment of Myself is a free act of will which,
> however,
> > > changes
> > > > a state that had lasted an eternity, which leads from  death into
> > > life, out
> > > > of the night and into the light.... For the  acknowledgment of Me
> will
> > > > also, and without fail, entail a change of  character, the human
> being
> > > will
> > > > re-enter the divine order.... he will  leave the region which has
> been
> > > his abode
> > > > for endless times and enter the  spheres of light, albeit his body
> > > still
> > > > remains on earth.... But the  soul.... the once fallen spirit....
> > > strives
> > > > towards its home again, for  the acknowledgment of Me Myself in
> Jesus
> > > Christ
> > > > will always be associated  with a transmission of strength and
> light
> > > so that
> > > > the person will  recognise what is right and good and thus his
> > > intentions and
> > > > actions have  to be good and right too. For now I will not leave
> the
> > > side of
> > > > My child  again which has found Me, and with My guidance it will
> also
> > > reach
> > > > its goal  with certainty, it will be accepted as My child in the
> > > Father's
> > > > house  where it will live in freedom and light and blissful
> happiness,
> > > where
> > > > it  will create with Me and in My will as is and has been its
> destiny
> > > since
> > > > the beginning....
> > > > Amen
> > > >
> > > > B.D.  7147
> > > >
> > > > �"  Published by friends of new revelations of God   �"
> > > > Information, download of all translated revelations,
> theme-booklets
> > > at:
> > > > _http://www.bertha-dudde.info/english/index.html_
> > > > (http://www.bertha-dudde.info/english/index.html)
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

--- In Multidimensionalman@yahoogroups.com, "aham" <aham@...> wrote:
>
> Michael,
>
> I am curious after your description of the self.........
> Can you describe it?
>
> aham

These things are described at some length on the first two websites
listed on my profile; although you may have to read several of the notes
there to get a complete picture of what I am talking about.

Michael Cecil
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Michael Cecil
>   To: Multidimensionalman@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 7:02 PM
>   Subject: [Multidimensionalman] Re: God became visible in Jesus
Christ....
>
>
>
>   This kind of idolatry and pagan metaphysical philosophy--such as the
doctrine of vicarious atonement--led quite directly to the
idolatrization of Jesus as God; the result of which was the Holocaust of
millions of Jews over several hundred years of Christian anti-Semitism
in Europe.
>
>   In any case, there was no "immense guilt" in "original sin".
>
>   The "original sin" consisted of nothing more than the 'movement' of
self-reflection--symbolized by the "serpent" in Genesis 3 and the
"dragon" in Revelations 12--which gave rise to both the "tree of the
knowledge of good and evil"/"beast of the sea" consciousness of the
"self" and the "beast of the earth" consciousness of the 'thinker' (the
"fig leaves" used by Adam and Eve consisting of thoughts to preserve and
protect the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil" consciousness of
the "self"...
>
>   The consciousness of the "self" and the 'thinker' comprising the
3-dimensional 'curved' space 'fallen' consciousness as opposed to the
2-dimensional 'flat' space "observing consciousness" Created 'by and in
the image of God' in Genesis 1:27 and also described as the "tree of
life" in Genesis 3:24: "the cherubs and the flame of a flashing sword to
guard the way to the tree of life".
>
>   Michael Cecil
>
>   --- In Multidimensionalman@yahoogroups.com, ISchneuing@ wrote:
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Word of god
>   > ... through Bertha Dudde - 18.6.1958
>   >
>   >
>   > God became visible in Jesus Christ....
>   > Anyone who professes Me will also be admitted into My kingdom, for
he will
>   > already be an aspirant to My kingdom as soon as he has found the
path back
>   > to Me from Whom he once separated of his own free will. He no
longer
>   > acknowledged Me, and this was the sin against Me, his God and
Creator of
>   > eternity, which could not be redeemed in any other way than
through the conscious
>   > acknowledgement of Me Myself.... And in order to enable the human
being to
>   > do so I personified Myself in the human being Jesus.... For the
reason for
>   > apostasy from Me rested in the fact that My living creations were
unable to
>   > behold Me.... Hence they turned to the one who was visible to them
who, in
>   > a manner of speaking, participated in their emergence and who,
despite
>   > greatest awareness, volitionally dissociated himself from the
Deity Whom he,
>   > too, was unable to behold. And thus I became a visible God for you
humans in
>   > Jesus Christ, and as a result of My human manifestation the reason
to deny
>   > Me acknowledgment actually no longer applied.... But now the
>   > acknowledgment of Me at the same time also requires the
acknowledgment of Jesus Christ's
>   > act of Salvation....
>   > Due to the immense guilt of the original sin a redemption from it
became
>   > necessary for you humans, the guilt had to be redeemed first
because I could
>   > not accept sinful living creations anymore, or, My justice
demanded an
>   > atonement for this guilt which only then would restore the former
relationship
>   > between the living creations and Myself again.... which had been
disrupted
>   > by the said sin. This act of atonement for humankind was thus
offered by
>   > the human being Jesus; nevertheless, I manifested Myself in this
human being
>   > Jesus for I wanted to redeem you humans from the great guilt
Myself, it is
>   > just that I had to avail Myself of a human cover which then,
however,
>   > should eternally shelter Me within itself, so that My beings would
be able to
>   > behold their God and Creator, so that they would be able to
recognise and
>   > love their Father in Him, Whom they then could wholeheartedly
approach
>   > without having to vanish as a result of His fire of love....
>   > And thus everyone who acknowledges the divine Redeemer Jesus
Christ has
>   > started the path of return into the Father's house, because he
simultaneously
>   > acknowledges Me Myself in Him and, as a result of the act of
Salvation,
>   > his original sin is redeemed. He will therefore also be admitted
into My
>   > kingdom, I will come to meet My child as Father, for I Myself
never separated
>   > from him, I merely accepted his will which had turned away from Me
because
>   > it was free. And thus free will has to become active again and
strive to
>   > return to Me. This is demonstrated by the person through his
conscious
>   > acknowledgment of Jesus Christ and His act of Salvation and the
conscious
>   > relationship with Him through his call and appeal for deliverance.
For he knows
>   > that he is restricted as long as he has not yet found Me in Jesus
Christ.
>   > The acknowledgment of Myself is a free act of will which, however,
changes
>   > a state that had lasted an eternity, which leads from death into
life, out
>   > of the night and into the light.... For the acknowledgment of Me
will
>   > also, and without fail, entail a change of character, the human
being will
>   > re-enter the divine order.... he will leave the region which has
been his abode
>   > for endless times and enter the spheres of light, albeit his body
still
>   > remains on earth.... But the soul.... the once fallen spirit....
strives
>   > towards its home again, for the acknowledgment of Me Myself in
Jesus Christ
>   > will always be associated with a transmission of strength and
light so that
>   > the person will recognise what is right and good and thus his
intentions and
>   > actions have to be good and right too. For now I will not leave
the side of
>   > My child again which has found Me, and with My guidance it will
also reach
>   > its goal with certainty, it will be accepted as My child in the
Father's
>   > house where it will live in freedom and light and blissful
happiness, where
>   > it will create with Me and in My will as is and has been its
destiny since
>   > the beginning....
>   > Amen
>   >
>   > B.D. 7147
>   >
>   > �?" Published by friends of new revelations of God �?"
>   > Information, download of all translated revelations,
theme-booklets at:
>   > _http://www.bertha-dudde.info/english/index.html_
>   > (http://www.bertha-dudde.info/english/index.html)
>   >
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Cecil

To: Multidimensionalman@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 7:02 PM

Subject: [Multidimensionalman] Re: God became visible in Jesus Christ....

 

This kind of idolatry and pagan metaphysical philosophy--such as the doctrine of vicarious atonement--led quite directly to the idolatrization of Jesus as God; the result of which was the Holocaust of millions of Jews over several hundred years of Christian anti-Semitism in Europe.

In any case, there was no "immense guilt" in "original sin".

The "original sin" consisted of nothing more than the 'movement' of self-reflection--symbolized by the "serpent" in Genesis 3 and the "dragon" in Revelations 12--which gave rise to both the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil"/"beast of the sea" consciousness of the "self" and the "beast of the earth" consciousness of the 'thinker' (the "fig leaves" used by Adam and Eve consisting of thoughts to preserve and protect the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil" consciousness of the "self"...

The consciousness of the "self" and the 'thinker' comprising the 3-dimensional 'curved' space 'fallen' consciousness as opposed to the 2-dimensional 'flat' space "observing consciousness" Created 'by and in the image of God' in Genesis 1:27 and also described as the "tree of life" in Genesis 3:24: "the cherubs and the flame of a flashing sword to guard the way to the tree of life".

Michael Cecil

--- In Multidimensionalman@yahoogroups.com, ISchneuing@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Word of god
> ... through Bertha Dudde - 18.6.1958
>
>
> God became visible in Jesus Christ....
> Anyone who professes Me will also be admitted into My kingdom, for he will
> already be an aspirant to My kingdom as soon as he has found the path back
> to Me from Whom he once separated of his own free will. He no longer
> acknowledged Me, and this was the sin against Me, his God and Creator of
> eternity, which could not be redeemed in any other way than through the conscious
> acknowledgement of Me Myself.... And in order to enable the human being to
> do so I personified Myself in the human being Jesus.... For the reason for
> apostasy from Me rested in the fact that My living creations were unable to
> behold Me.... Hence they turned to the one who was visible to them who, in
> a manner of speaking, participated in their emergence and who, despite
> greatest awareness, volitionally dissociated himself from the Deity Whom he,
> too, was unable to behold. And thus I became a visible God for you humans in
> Jesus Christ, and as a result of My human manifestation the reason to deny
> Me acknowledgment actually no longer applied.... But now the
> acknowledgment of Me at the same time also requires the acknowledgment of Jesus Christ's
> act of Salvation....
> Due to the immense guilt of the original sin a redemption from it became
> necessary for you humans, the guilt had to be redeemed first because I could
> not accept sinful living creations anymore, or, My justice demanded an
> atonement for this guilt which only then would restore the former relationship
> between the living creations and Myself again.... which had been disrupted
> by the said sin. This act of atonement for humankind was thus offered by
> the human being Jesus; nevertheless, I manifested Myself in this human being
> Jesus for I wanted to redeem you humans from the great guilt Myself, it is
> just that I had to avail Myself of a human cover which then, however,
> should eternally shelter Me within itself, so that My beings would be able to
> behold their God and Creator, so that they would be able to recognise and
> love their Father in Him, Whom they then could wholeheartedly approach
> without having to vanish as a result of His fire of love....
> And thus everyone who acknowledges the divine Redeemer Jesus Christ has
> started the path of return into the Father's house, because he simultaneously
> acknowledges Me Myself in Him and, as a result of the act of Salvation,
> his original sin is redeemed. He will therefore also be admitted into My
> kingdom, I will come to meet My child as Father, for I Myself never separated
> from him, I merely accepted his will which had turned away from Me because
> it was free. And thus free will has to become active again and strive to
> return to Me. This is demonstrated by the person through his conscious
> acknowledgment of Jesus Christ and His act of Salvation and the conscious
> relationship with Him through his call and appeal for deliverance. For he knows
> that he is restricted as long as he has not yet found Me in Jesus Christ.
> The acknowledgment of Myself is a free act of will which, however, changes
> a state that had lasted an eternity, which leads from death into life, out
> of the night and into the light.... For the acknowledgment of Me will
> also, and without fail, entail a change of character, the human being will
> re-enter the divine order.... he will leave the region which has been his abode
> for endless times and enter the spheres of light, albeit his body still
> remains on earth.... But the soul.... the once fallen spirit.... strives
> towards its home again, for the acknowledgment of Me Myself in Jesus Christ
> will always be associated with a transmission of strength and light so that
> the person will recognise what is right and good and thus his intentions and
> actions have to be good and right too. For now I will not leave the side of
> My child again which has found Me, and with My guidance it will also reach
> its goal with certainty, it will be accepted as My child in the Father's
> house where it will live in freedom and light and blissful happiness, where
> it will create with Me and in My will as is and has been its destiny since
> the beginning....
> Amen
>
> B.D. 7147
>
> �" Published by friends of new revelations of God �"
> Information, download of all translated revelations, theme-booklets at:
> _http://www.bertha-dudde.info/english/index.html_
> (http://www.bertha-dudde.info/english/index.html)
>

Dear Michael Cecil,

It is remarkable how many schools of thought exist with followers who believe
blindly without understanding what it is that they believe!

First of all we have to understand that we are complex Beings, incorporating in
our body both lower personality features and spiritual features.
And when we die the lower physical bodies decompose, while the spiritual bodies
rejoin the spiritual dimensions.

And in the spiritual dimensions we can find both spiritually evolved beings,
such as Jesus, Mary, Buddha, Mohamad, and also other beings who have not evolved
as much as They have.

As for the Spiritual "Books" which have been written by Spiritual Beings, while
they originally reflected the thoughts of these "Saints" they have since been
rewritten and modified by the followers, each according to his own level of
understanding.

In my humble opinion there are two different sets of laws to study, understand,
and follow:
The physical laws as taught at school and in the universities, and then the
spiritual laws, which we call the "laws of ethics" which consist mainly of
"unconditional" love, and Forgiveness. And it is this second set of teachings
which the Saints have tried to teach while on Earth.

Joe.

--- In Multidimensionalman@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Cecil" <mececil@...> wrote:
>
> This kind of idolatry and pagan metaphysical philosophy--such as the
> doctrine of vicarious atonement--led quite directly to the
> idolatrization of Jesus as God; the result of which was the Holocaust of
> millions of Jews over several hundred years of Christian anti-Semitism
> in Europe.
>
> In any case, there was no "immense guilt" in "original sin".
>
> The "original sin" consisted of nothing more than the 'movement' of
> self-reflection--symbolized by the "serpent" in Genesis 3 and the
> "dragon" in Revelations 12--which gave rise to both the "tree of the
> knowledge of good and evil"/"beast of the sea" consciousness of the
> "self" and the "beast of the earth" consciousness of the 'thinker' (the
> "fig leaves" used by Adam and Eve consisting of thoughts to preserve and
> protect the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil" consciousness of
> the "self"...
>
> The consciousness of the "self" and the 'thinker' comprising the
> 3-dimensional 'curved' space 'fallen' consciousness as opposed to the
> 2-dimensional 'flat' space "observing consciousness" Created 'by and in
> the image of God' in Genesis 1:27 and also described as the "tree of
> life" in Genesis 3:24: "the cherubs and the flame of a flashing sword to
> guard the way to the tree of life".
>
> Michael Cecil
>
> --- In Multidimensionalman@yahoogroups.com, ISchneuing@ wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Word of god
> > ... through Bertha Dudde   -  18.6.1958
> >
> >
> > God became visible in Jesus Christ....
> > Anyone who professes Me will also be admitted into My kingdom,  for he
> will
> > already be an aspirant to My kingdom as soon as he has found  the path
> back
> > to Me from Whom he once separated of his own free will. He  no longer
> > acknowledged Me, and this was the sin against Me, his God and  Creator
> of
> > eternity, which could not be redeemed in any other way than  through
> the conscious
> > acknowledgement of Me Myself.... And in order to  enable the human
> being to
> > do so I personified Myself in the human being  Jesus.... For the
> reason for
> > apostasy from Me rested in the fact that My  living creations were
> unable to
> > behold Me.... Hence they turned to the one  who was visible to them
> who, in
> > a manner of speaking, participated in  their emergence and who,
> despite
> > greatest awareness, volitionally  dissociated himself from the Deity
> Whom he,
> > too, was unable to behold. And  thus I became a visible God for you
> humans in
> > Jesus Christ, and as a  result of My human manifestation the reason to
> deny
> > Me acknowledgment  actually no longer applied.... But now the
> > acknowledgment of Me at the  same time also requires the
> acknowledgment of Jesus Christ's
> > act of  Salvation....
> > Due to the immense guilt of the original sin a redemption from  it
> became
> > necessary for you humans, the guilt had to be redeemed first  because
> I could
> > not accept sinful living creations anymore, or, My justice  demanded
> an
> > atonement for this guilt which only then would restore the  former
> relationship
> > between the living creations and Myself again....  which had been
> disrupted
> > by the said sin. This act of atonement for  humankind was thus offered
> by
> > the human being Jesus; nevertheless, I  manifested Myself in this
> human being
> > Jesus for I wanted to redeem  you humans from the great guilt Myself,
> it is
> > just that I had to  avail Myself of a human cover which then, however,
> > should eternally  shelter Me within itself, so that My beings would be
> able to
> > behold their  God and Creator, so that they would be able to recognise
> and
> > love their  Father in Him, Whom they then could wholeheartedly
> approach
> > without having  to vanish as a result of His fire of love....
> > And thus everyone who acknowledges the divine Redeemer Jesus  Christ
> has
> > started the path of return into the Father's house, because he
> simultaneously
> > acknowledges Me Myself in Him and, as a result of the act  of
> Salvation,
> > his original sin is redeemed. He will therefore also be  admitted into
> My
> > kingdom, I will come to meet My child as Father, for I  Myself never
> separated
> > from him, I merely accepted his will which had  turned away from Me
> because
> > it was free. And thus free will has to  become active again and strive
> to
> > return to Me. This is demonstrated by  the person through his
> conscious
> > acknowledgment of Jesus Christ and His  act of Salvation and the
> conscious
> > relationship with Him through his call  and appeal for deliverance.
> For he knows
> > that he is restricted as long as  he has not yet found Me in Jesus
> Christ.
> > The acknowledgment of Myself is a free act of will which,  however,
> changes
> > a state that had lasted an eternity, which leads from  death into
> life, out
> > of the night and into the light.... For the  acknowledgment of Me will
> > also, and without fail, entail a change of  character, the human being
> will
> > re-enter the divine order.... he will  leave the region which has been
> his abode
> > for endless times and enter the  spheres of light, albeit his body
> still
> > remains on earth.... But the  soul.... the once fallen spirit....
> strives
> > towards its home again, for  the acknowledgment of Me Myself in Jesus
> Christ
> > will always be associated  with a transmission of strength and light
> so that
> > the person will  recognise what is right and good and thus his
> intentions and
> > actions have  to be good and right too. For now I will not leave the
> side of
> > My child  again which has found Me, and with My guidance it will also
> reach
> > its goal  with certainty, it will be accepted as My child in the
> Father's
> > house  where it will live in freedom and light and blissful happiness,
> where
> > it  will create with Me and in My will as is and has been its destiny
> since
> > the beginning....
> > Amen
> >
> > B.D.  7147
> >
> > �"  Published by friends of new revelations of God   �"
> > Information, download of all translated revelations, theme-booklets
> at:
> > _http://www.bertha-dudde.info/english/index.html_
> > (http://www.bertha-dudde.info/english/index.html)
> >
>

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The Scroll of the War of the Sons of Light�one of the first of the Dead Sea Scrolls found in 1947; and, thus, the designation 1QM�describes the Warof the Sons of Light as consisting of Three Phases; with the first indication that this war is to be understood as a metaphorical war rather than a literal war occurring very early in the Scroll, in the description of the Three Phases of the War themselves.

Although there is nothing particularly remarkable about the First Phase of the War of the Sons of Light�other than that it is a pre-emptive War initiated by the Sons of Light (the Scroll opening with the words: "For the Master. TheRule of War on the unleashing of the attack of the sons of light against the company of the sons of darkness, the army of Satan�")*�the Second and Third Phases of the War are described as follows: "And, when the hearts of the detachments of foot-soldiers faint, then shall the might of God fortify [the hearts of the sons of light]. And, with the seventh lot, the mighty hand of God shallbring down [the army of Satan, and all] the angels** of his kingdom, and all the members [of hiscompany in everlasting destruction]�"

Now,as I have described at length in my book summarizing the more than 30 years of research I have done on the Scroll of the War of the Sons of Light, the specific meaning of the word "hearts" in this context is as an echo of Isaiah8:16: "I bind up this testimony. I seal this Revelation in the heart of my disciples." That is, the word "heart" is a very specific code word used in reference to the Revelation of the "resurrection"�a term first suggested in Isaiah 26:19: "Your dead will come to life, their corpses will rise; awake, exult, all you who lie in the dust, for your dew is a radiant dew and the land of ghosts will give birth."�indicating, specifically, the revelation of the memories of previous lives.

And,it is in this context that the term "the seventh lot" is to be understood as aspecific reference to the Vision of the "Son of man".

Thus, inasmuch as the Second Phase of the War of the Sons of Light consists of the Revelation of the "resurrection"; while the Third Phase of the War of the Sons of Light consists of the Vision of the "Son of man"; the First Phase ofthe War of the Sons of Light must be the Revelation of the Law on Mt. Sinai.

Then,as far as the actual prosecution of the War, I QM states that there are:1) the Trumpets of Summons�referring to the Law; 2) the Trumpets of the Reminder, Retreat, and Battle Formation�referring to the Revelation of the"resurrection", inasmuch as that Revelation consists of the Revelation of the Memory of Creation, `the Fall', and the revelation of the memories of previous lives; and, 3) the Trumpets of Alarm, Ambush, Pursuit and Massacre�referring to the Vision of the "Son of man"; also described in the Thanksgiving Hymns of the Dead Sea Scrolls with the words: "The fortress shall open onto Endless Space and the Everlasting Gates shall send out weapons of War."

Inother words, the Sons of Light `respond' to the "Trumpets of Summons" by living in accordance with the Law Revealed at Mt. Sinai,whereas the Sons of Darkness do not.

The Sons of Light `respond' to the "Trumpets of the Reminder" either by receiving,themselves, the Revelation of the "resurrection", or believing the Knowledge Revealed through that Revelation; whereas the Sons of Darkness do not, not having either received that Revelation nor believed that Knowledge.

And the Sons of Light `respond' to the "Trumpets of Massacre" either by receiving,themselves, the Vision of the "Son of man", or believing the Knowledge Revealed through that Vision; while the Sons of Darkness cynically and self-righteously trivialize and categorically deny both the Revelation of the "resurrection" and the Knowledge Revealed through the Vision of the "Son of man"; accusing anyone who either has received those Revelations or believed the Knowledge Revealed through those Revelations as being either "insane", "mentally unstable", a"heretic", an "infidel", etc. etc.

And,in this context, it is to be understood that the following dance also includes certain symbols suggestive of the Victory of the Sons of Light over the Sons ofDarkness*** [The blue flashing lights prior to the dance signifying sorrow, which is experienced at the "fifth church" (the throat chakra), the vocal element signifying the dialogue of Revelations 6:10

(see: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+6%3A9-11&version=NIV)]:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR_51ygQb8U&feature=related

The inverted pyramid

(And, as long as we are talking about pyramids; see, also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuanP2P41_I

and

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/ufo/6837200/UFO-pyramid-reported-over-Kremlin.html)

formation 

(See:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+20%3A17-18&version=ESV)

of the dancers, for example, suggesting the descendingtriangle in the Star of David, representing the Revelation of Truth. 

And, at the time segment beginning at 0:39, there is the formation of a much larger upward-pointing triangle (of the Star of David)which is composed of both male and female dancers****,representing the search for Truth, scientific truth, and Ishmael (who was a bowman--Genesis 21:20); which is a synchronicity with both the First Seal of the Revelation of John and David Bowman, the protagonist in 2001--A Space Odyssey).

(The last position of the bodies of the dancers is, of course, suggestive of the, probably, tens of thousands of Jews who were crucified by the Romans.)

And in this context, it should also be understood that, according to the Koran (thanks, honey) there are 19angels `guarding the gates of hell' as well as that `everyone goes to hell; butit is the righteous who are released from hell'.

And, although I have been unable to determine the precise number of dancers in the inverted pyramid in the above video clip (see, for example, time segment 1:30); that number should be 19; 18of those 19 angels `guarding the gates of hell' being feminine;signifying both that the Revelation of the "resurrection" occurs in the area of the heart and consists of the feminine dimension of the Truth, as well as echoing the term "queen of the South" in Daniel Chapter 11, which is a feminine characterization of the Vision of the "Son of man" (see, also, the Gospel of Luke 11:31), which is, instead, the masculine dimension of Truth; and asis represented in the following dance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vifK9BZEhGc*****

Michael Cecil 

*And,thus, it is really quite dangerous for the Israel to seriously consider itself as being the representative of the Sons of Light in that such an assumption would, necessarily, lend itself quite easily to the conclusion that the Israel would be `justified' in a pre-emptive attack against Iran and/or the Arab/Muslim countries for the purpose of `resolving' either the problem of Iran's uraniumenrichment program and/or the conflict over Jerusalem.

**Thus, there is,necessarily, a parallel to the "war in heaven" of "Michael and his angels"against "the dragon and his angels" in Chapter 12 of the Revelation of John.

***Even the notes of the music themselves echo the "Three Phases" of the War of the Sons of Light and the "Seventh Lot":

One, two, three

One, two, three

One, two, three, four, five, six, seven

One, two, three

One, two, three

One, two, three, four, five, six, seven

(thanks, honey)

****Also notice that the male and female dancers comprising the upward-pointing triangle turn around in a circle with their arms extended straight outward�signifying the determined searching for the Truth and the truth�or have their hands on their hips�signifying time standing still. The female dancers and the male dancer comprising the downward-pointing triangle, however, only have their hands on their hips they do not spin with their hands extended straight outward. It is only at the very end of the dance that their arms are extended upward in both a"V" for victory and suggesting the crucifixion of the Jews.

*****While the woman in the white dress represents the "queen of the South", Revelation, and the First Seal of the Revelation of John; and, thus, the descending triangle in the Star of David; the woman in the red dress represents the Second Seal,the duality of scientific truth, and the ascending triangle in the the Star ofDavid.