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A little meditation on how I distinguish between teachers and advisers:

Metaphorically, if you think of yourself as a car, it may help clarify
an important distinction, not just for the sake of taxonomic
classification but, rather, to help understand WHO you need and WHY
you need who you need:

1. Far too many advisers, while perhaps offering good advice, offer
that advice from an *external* relationship. From an external
position. When advisers advise from this position, they are
comparable to a driver trying to drive the car from OUTSIDE! (Live
with that image for awhile, please...) I've had many, many, many
people give me the same "good" advice over and over and over. Like
good seeds falling on infertile ground, unfortunately, very little has
come of their good advice. I believe it was because they seemed to
be trying to "drive me" rather than *teach me* to "drive me, myself".
And though I may have had a natural hunger to want to join them in
solving the problem they were giving advice to me to solve, my
ordinarily fertile/receptive mind became less fertile by becoming less
receptive - to "being driven". Autonomous people don't like being
driven. Even my advisers, being autonomous people themselves, don't
like being driven, either. Yet, autonomous people NEED HELP, TOO!
There are lots of intelligent, experienced, well-meaning advisers who
advise from the outside but who don't reach the inside of the people
they wish to help.

2. On the other hand, far too few teachers, fall in the role of
advisers and forget that they must get into the vehicle *WITH YOU*.
Teachers mustn't reduce their opportunities to teach. Once in the
car with you, in order to be true teachers, they must transfer what
they have TO you. Good teachers don't just advise - good teachers
invest something of themselves. They invest, they transfer what they
have TO you. Again, the word "teach" means "to show". So, when a
good teacher teaches you, they show you something. You *see* for
yourself how to do what they've agreed to teach you. They get in with
you - they're involved with your learning process/outcome. They
confirm that you've learned. Because, if you haven't learned how to
drive, can a car wreck be far behind?

Do you see my point?

Thanks!!
Vincent Wright
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A little meditation on how I distinguish between teachers and advisers: Metaphorically, if you think of yourself as a car, it may help clarify an important...
Vincent Wright
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This is great stuff! Thanks so much for sharing; I plan on highlighting this at my blog. Best wishes, Barbara Ling Become The Recruiter of Choice! ...
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Interesting analogy. I feel the advantage of an outside advisor is that they don't see the situation the same way you do, and it is that different perspective...
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... Sticking with the original analogy, Brock: My issue with some of the advisers who've advised me falls along the following lines of reasoning: 1. Advising...
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<big snip> My bottom line is that advisers/consultants need first to be more consultative - actually finding out something about the person's drivers and then,...
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... <big snip, too...> And I'm not sure the advisors should, as you say "solve your problems".(/big snip, too...> I'm absolutely as clear as can be that using...
Vincent Wright
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I am thinking that what the consultant would do for you is advise you that the best place to get your particular problem fixed would be by going here: ...
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What's happened to this thread in its super-short lifetime may require us to hire a consultant to come in and tell us how we can get it back to the original...
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Most consultants will walk into a business, make changes and leave. But if the business does not understand the "why" something was done then the changes...
Brock Henderson
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At this point, I'm wondering if it's at all advisable for us to merely return to the original topic? The Most Important Distinction Between Teachers And...
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Bill, I suspect that clients don't take the advice because the client doesn't understand the reasoning of the consultant. If you don't understand *why*...
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I apologize for getting off the topic. Brock ... From: Vincent Wright To: MyVirtualPowerForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 6:58 PM Subject:...
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