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Re: [NEAmines] Heat Differentials and more

Sorry I thought you said the concentrating systems would not work well enough. On the micro gravity of an asteroid such heating systems make even more sense.

Jim Brown


From: EOS Mars Program <eos.mars.program@...>
To: NEAmines@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 4:31:39 AM
Subject: Re: [NEAmines] Heat Differentials and more

Ueli,

Yes, I am clear on this one, and I think we need to label them
differently.

The point I was making on the stats, is how efficient these electric
drive mass ratios are in themselves, even without the higher output
of MET's (although these need more solar array area, the power per
sq. metre on current PVs seems good for these purposes).

Jan

On 1 Jul 2009, at 07:19, Ueli Scheuermeier wrote:

> Yes, as far as I figure, we need to differentiate electric drives
> (such as ion engines) from electrothermal drives, such as METs. Big
> difference, I believe.
>
> Ueli



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A thought about how one could use the temperature differential between sunside and nightside on a spacecraft. If an external sunside heat collector contained a...
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Yes that is one of the advantages of a solar thermalĀ also calledĀ "solar dynamic" system, but you really need a concentrating mirror or lens to bring the...
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Jan, as far as I understand you've just reinvented the "solar dynamic" electricity source. Ueli ... From: EOS Mars Program <eos.mars.program@...> ...
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Ueli, Jim, That's OK then! Was just looking for a suitable backup system. By the way, I am uncovering more and more electrothermal-powered missions, the latest...
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Most ion drives do not spend much power on heating, Just enough to ionize it, but mostly it uses extrema charges to accelerate the gas. The MET uses...
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My apologies, Jim, you are absolutely correct! No excuses for the dismal conversion. This is why NASA probes keep hitting what they shouldn't, by not ...
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NASA has a much better record on hitting Mars than anyone else. That misstake has only once happened. That is not their problem. I think they should make the...
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Some interesting background context to the metrication issues: http://www.space.com/news/metric_policy_100199.html ...
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Yes, as far as I figure, we need to differentiate electric drives (such as ion engines) from electrothermal drives, such as METs. Big difference, I believe. ...
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I think I hinted at that. I wonder who has been using the term electro thermal for ion drives. Jim Brown ________________________________ From: Ueli...
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Ueli, Yes, I am clear on this one, and I think we need to label them differently. The point I was making on the stats, is how efficient these electric drive...
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Sorry I thought you said the concentrating systems would not work well enough. On the micro gravity of an asteroid such heating systems make even more sense. ...
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