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Hi all, Let me take a first shot at Jan's "big picture" (don't worry, I'm still putting the final touches on the first draft of our shielding milestone). We've...
Ueli Scheuermeier
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Oct 9, 2008
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Okay, while writing up the points for the big picture I kept wondering where to apply leverage. Well, here's a revamp of the sequencing: 1. Competence to...
Ueli Scheuermeier
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Oct 9, 2008
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So while writing up the sequencing of achieving competencies I have come to the conclusion that cheap rockets, telerobonautics, and tugs are the very first...
Ueli Scheuermeier
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Oct 9, 2008
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This looks thorough enough, Ueli. Essentially this substantially fits into the current framework as portrayed, it is mostly a matter of the time-scale of...
EOS Mars Program
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Oct 9, 2008
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This seems to be a good place to start from, Ueli.......... This would allow the beginning of a first revenue generating process to be put in place for several...
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Ueli, Ref. Competency #1: In the previous post, I mentioned: http://technology.newscientist.com/channel/tech/mg20026776.200- ...
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Worth looking at: http://www.orbitaldebris.jsc.nasa.gov/newsletter/pdfs/ODQNv12i3.pdf Jan...
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Just off the cuff a fast response (I'm on the road again with infrequent access to the net)   ... Jan responded: Smelting, zone refining, CMVR and inertial...
Ueli Scheuermeier
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Oct 13, 2008
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This is great stuff. Seems like there WILL BE A MARKET for removing large debris, as it's the large stuff that is most worrisome because it will progressively...
Ueli Scheuermeier
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Oct 13, 2008
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OK, Ueli, I was differentiating between CMVR processes and raw grits on one hand, and smelting and separation of junk metals gathered from orbit on the other,...
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Oct 13, 2008
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Grind the junk up, then do the CVMR on that. Should work.   Spin casting not required with CVMR: The mould is the large body (maybe inflatable) onto which the...
Ueli Scheuermeier
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Oct 14, 2008
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Hi all, Here you are with a draft of the "Shielding Milestone". Please take a read through it. Is it clear? Is it interesting? Does it give insights? Is...
Ueli Scheuermeier
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Oct 14, 2008
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Jan, Orbital cycle times... - ahm, I believe you're in Hohmann transfer orbit think here. Remember that such orbits require a lot of mass to achieve the...
Ueli Scheuermeier
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Oct 14, 2008
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Jan, You wrote: "It may be interesting to list what can at this point be hired off the shelf. Hired equipment is tax-deductible from revenue, unlike capital...
Ueli Scheuermeier
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Oct 14, 2008
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A most thorough and workmanlike summary, Ueli! I particularly like the comprehensive bibliography of reference links. Soon adds up, hey? It helps to establish...
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But vacuum depositing is going to be slow. I think it is reasonable to plan for any method that will work assuming that varying conditions and needs will...
Debi-Lee Wilkinson
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Oct 14, 2008
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Debi-Lee, Yes, my problem was with the potential energy required for grinding processes, plus wear and tear and replacement of parts, vibration and platform...
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Some things like pressurized containers needed to do melting and chemical processing, and heated systems are much more practical when larger. Tiny movers might...
james brown
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Oct 19, 2008
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Thanks Debi-Lee, CVMR deposition is slow? I don't think this is vacuum deposition. Do you have any data about speeds of CVMR deposition and the factors that...
Ueli Scheuermeier
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Oct 19, 2008
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Actually Jan, I believe salvaging debris is going to be much more important than grinding it up and smelting it. I see in my minds eye some guys floating...
Ueli Scheuermeier
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Oct 19, 2008
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Well, I think that so much of the salvage will be just fragmented debris, Ueli, that picking over the bits may be too labour-intensive. This ties up the most...
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Oct 20, 2008
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Just off the cuff Jan: - The most important debris to be taken out with priority will be the large chunks, not the small bits. And most of those large chunks...
Ueli Scheuermeier
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More thoughts on this, Ueli........... Must admit I am deeply prejudiced about the reliability of reused second-hand machinery, especially where lives may...
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... centrifugally ... ==>First problem I have with "heating" plastics is that it's never a harmless process. Any kind of recycling does damage the material....
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Oct 21, 2008
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Most useful input and detailed response. Thanks for that! Jan...
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Oct 21, 2008
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Just had a brainwave thinking about the economic parameters: Actually, junk as shielding material costs too: It costs the water the tug needs to throw out its...
Ueli Scheuermeier
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Oct 21, 2008
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Tricky one this, Ueli. The junk has already cost $10000/Kg to place in orbit, so each kilogram is worth at least this plus the cost of water. However, if bulk...
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Hi "El_Slapper", Hey, we don't yet even know your proper name. Could you introduce yourself? But anyway, welcome on board. Good to have a french speaker on...
Ueli Scheuermeier
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Oct 21, 2008
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Yes this is tricky. I was just thinking that if we have to send up 100kg of water into orbit for a tug to tank in order to chase up and haul in a 50kg piece of...
Ueli Scheuermeier
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Oct 21, 2008
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... yourself? ==>Romuald Louvrier, 32 years old, former plastics engineer(specialized in forming, not in chemistry); today working in computing for insurance...
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