They usually identify the wrinkles as sinuous grooves. Prob is a collapse. I
like the methane hydrate collapse myself. Rarely any land slides nearby them
tho.

the parallel lines and crater chains are usually id'd as splitting impactors,
but we have decided they are degrading orbits of moons and ring materials. you
can see some of them tail off with a curl at the end , just like a skipping
stone. sometimes boulders there. Check the Phobos pics for some parralel
examples

--- In NEAmines@yahoogroups.com, Ueli Scheuermeier <uscheuermeier@...> wrote:
>
> Morgan,
>
>
> Grooves? Yeah! However, my immediate knee-jerk reaction to it when seeing the
pic was: Wrinkles!
>
>
> Has anybody come up with ideas why those features are there? They seem to run
parallel a lot. "Wrinkles" would make sense if this happened:
> 1. A major hit disintegrated a precursor body into local bloated cloud of
debris (phenomenon like bullet into a sandbag). 
> 2. Whatever achieved escape velocity from the local combined mass then left
the system
> 3. The rest gradually (and gently) coalesced back into a blob under the mutual
gravity pull of all the elements swirling around, resulting in a new surface of
sorts
> 4. Further minor hits then trigger internal re-schuffling of chunks within the
blob, triggering seismic waves, and also filling in internal cavities. The body
de facto shrinks
> 5. Resulting in wrinkles on the surface?
>
>
> What do you think?
>
> Ueli
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: mtmorganism <mtmorganism@...>
> To: NEAmines@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 1:08 AM
> Subject: [NEAmines] Re: April Linx
>
>
>  
> fab pic of Lutetia
> look at all those grooves!
>
> http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=26676
>
> space weathering on Vesta parent asteroids
> http://lanl.arxiv.org/abs/1009.0179
>
> --- In NEAmines@yahoogroups.com, "mtmorganism" <mtmorganism@> wrote:
> >
> > crystalization happens differently than we always thought. This has
interesting implications in the hydrate formation in chrondules.
> >
> >
http://sciencecareers.sciencemag.org/career_magazine/previous_issues/articles/20\
12_04_13/caredit.a1200042
> >
> > --- In NEAmines@yahoogroups.com, "mtmorganism" <mtmorganism@> wrote:
> > >
> > > soemething is adding dust to an exo-planet debris disk, it keeps getting
replenishd. and staying warm. hmmm
> > > http://arxiv.org/abs/0710.0839
> > >
> > > Some really interesting photos of Vesta lately. lots of very dark stains
around the craters, and lots more small crater chains.
> > > http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/target/Other
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In NEAmines@yahoogroups.com, "mtmorganism" <mtmorganism@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > interesting story on astronaut safety over on Selenian Boondocks.
> > > >
> > > > SSI, that does the space manufacturing convention, has their latest list
up
> > > >
> > > > http://ssi.org/2010-conference-space-manufacturing-14/archive/
> > > >
> > > > Volatiles trapped in ice as it forms-plan your refueling and engines.
> > > > http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0019103512000425
> > > >
> > > > The Seasteading forums have been basically closed, the members have
moved here. Lots of discussion on living conditions, materials, and some legal
stuff. I still think floating cannon for LEO is the way to go
> > > >
> > > > http://concretesubmarine.activeboard.com/
> > > >
> > > > Using nanobots to cut graphene ?
> > > > http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2012SSPMA..42..358Z
> > > >
> > > > New timelines for chrondites
> > > >
http://www.annualreviews.org/doi/abs/10.1146/annurev.earth.35.031306.140100?jour\
nalCode=earth
> > > >
> > > > Been doing trade shows for the shop in Vegas, just getting back in the
groove here.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

It would be nice to think that somewhere along the line we triggered
a response....?!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2132797/Asteroid-
mining-company-form-backing-Google-chiefs-director-James-Cameron.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/apr/20/james-cameron-backs-space-
explorers-planetary-resources?newsfeed=true

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/apr/20/james-cameron-backs-space-
explorers-planetary-resources?newsfeed=true

http://www.forbes.com/sites/briancaulfield/2012/04/20/planetary-
resources-co-founder-aims-to-create-a-gold-rush-in-space/

http://www.cnbc.com/id/47117113/

....and as predicted it is NOT a mining company that is venturing
forth....


Jan

But not by Rossi. this one is going into production, and was tested at Sandia

http://cassandralegacy.blogspot.it/2012/04/breakthrough-in-free-energy-b-cat.htm\
l

brief review
http://pesn.com/2012/04/19/9602078_Brillouin--Understanding_How_LENR_Works_Will_\
Enable_Us_to_Be_First/

http://nextbigfuture.com/2012/04/brillouin-had-los-alamos-and-sri.html#more

Decent article on the ice miner/cutter for europa. fiber optic is nice
good stuff in the comments.
http://phys.org/news/2012-04-inventor-preps-robot-ice-europa.html


Notes from the Phoenix Space Access meeting

http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/teams/rocket-city-space-pioneers/blog/notes-spa\
ce-access

SLS a threat to jobs?
http://www.chron.com/opinion/outlook/article/Space-Launch-System-is-a-threat-to-\
JSC-Texas-jobs-3498836.php

PR report
"Asteroid Retrieval Feasibility Study", 33 authors, including many familiar
names http://kiss.caltech.edu/study/asteroid/asteroid_final_report.pdf to put
~500 tons in high lunar orbit.





--- In NEAmines@yahoogroups.com, "mtmorganism" <mtmorganism@...> wrote:
>
> lots of action over on RLV news
>
>
http://www.hobbyspace.com/AAdmin/archive/SpecialTopics/Events/2012/SpaceAccess-2\
012.html
>
> http://whyhomeschool.blogspot.com/2012/04/space-access-2012.html
>
> Root for the commercial guys
>
http://blog.chron.com/sciguy/2012/04/heres-why-you-should-be-rooting-for-spacex/
>
> Curacao is the launch site
>
http://www.thenational.ae/thenationalconversation/industry-insights/technology/d\
own-to-earth-island-nation-plans-a-rocketing-space-flight-venture
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In NEAmines@yahoogroups.com, Ueli Scheuermeier <uscheuermeier@> wrote:
> >
> > Morgan,
> >
> >
> > I read the article. Indeed, I also think if this pre-nucleation really pans
out, it would give a handle to think out how hydration works in space,
particularly in the early formation of chondrules?
> >
> >
> > But then again: Got to get samples to study that. Back to figuring out how
to get scouts and prospectors out there?!
> >
> > Ueli
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >  From: mtmorganism <mtmorganism@>
> > To: NEAmines@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 9:27 PM
> > Subject: [NEAmines] Re: April Linx
> >
> >
> >  
> > crystalization happens differently than we always thought. This has
interesting implications in the hydrate formation in chrondules.
> >
> >
http://sciencecareers.sciencemag.org/career_magazine/previous_issues/articles/20\
12_04_13/caredit.a1200042
> >
> > --- In NEAmines@yahoogroups.com, "mtmorganism" <mtmorganism@> wrote:
> > >
> > > soemething is adding dust to an exo-planet debris disk, it keeps getting
replenishd. and staying warm. hmmm
> > > http://arxiv.org/abs/0710.0839
> > >
> > > Some really interesting photos of Vesta lately. lots of very dark stains
around the craters, and lots more small crater chains.
> > > http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/target/Other
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In NEAmines@yahoogroups.com, "mtmorganism" <mtmorganism@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > interesting story on astronaut safety over on Selenian Boondocks.
> > > >
> > > > SSI, that does the space manufacturing convention, has their latest list
up
> > > >
> > > > http://ssi.org/2010-conference-space-manufacturing-14/archive/
> > > >
> > > > Volatiles trapped in ice as it forms-plan your refueling and engines.
> > > > http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0019103512000425
> > > >
> > > > The Seasteading forums have been basically closed, the members have
moved here. Lots of discussion on living conditions, materials, and some legal
stuff. I still think floating cannon for LEO is the way to go
> > > >
> > > > http://concretesubmarine.activeboard.com/
> > > >
> > > > Using nanobots to cut graphene ?
> > > > http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2012SSPMA..42..358Z
> > > >
> > > > New timelines for chrondites
> > > >
http://www.annualreviews.org/doi/abs/10.1146/annurev.earth.35.031306.140100?jour\
nalCode=earth
> > > >
> > > > Been doing trade shows for the shop in Vegas, just getting back in the
groove here.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

missing Starlite material. another failure of corporate capitalism

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread832589/pg1



mag and calcium for on orbit workers
http://blog.imva.info/medicine/magnesium-calcium-protect-dna-radiation

non military exo-suit
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21428614.800-wearable-muscle-suit-makes-he\
avy-lifting-a-cinch.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news

The road ahead is a dead end?
http://uphorizon.org/?page_id=12

Moon company moves ahead, paul allen buying Rocketdyne? Maybe PM?
http://www.parabolicarc.com/

--- In NEAmines@yahoogroups.com, "mtmorganism" <mtmorganism@...> wrote:
>
> Decent article on the ice miner/cutter for europa. fiber optic is nice
> good stuff in the comments.
> http://phys.org/news/2012-04-inventor-preps-robot-ice-europa.html
>
>
> Notes from the Phoenix Space Access meeting
>
>
http://www.googlelunarxprize.org/teams/rocket-city-space-pioneers/blog/notes-spa\
ce-access
>
> SLS a threat to jobs?
>
http://www.chron.com/opinion/outlook/article/Space-Launch-System-is-a-threat-to-\
JSC-Texas-jobs-3498836.php
>
> PR report
> "Asteroid Retrieval Feasibility Study", 33 authors, including many familiar
names http://kiss.caltech.edu/study/asteroid/asteroid_final_report.pdf to put
~500 tons in high lunar orbit.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In NEAmines@yahoogroups.com, "mtmorganism" <mtmorganism@> wrote:
> >
> > lots of action over on RLV news
> >
> >
http://www.hobbyspace.com/AAdmin/archive/SpecialTopics/Events/2012/SpaceAccess-2\
012.html
> >
> > http://whyhomeschool.blogspot.com/2012/04/space-access-2012.html
> >
> > Root for the commercial guys
> >
http://blog.chron.com/sciguy/2012/04/heres-why-you-should-be-rooting-for-spacex/
> >
> > Curacao is the launch site
> >
http://www.thenational.ae/thenationalconversation/industry-insights/technology/d\
own-to-earth-island-nation-plans-a-rocketing-space-flight-venture
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In NEAmines@yahoogroups.com, Ueli Scheuermeier <uscheuermeier@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Morgan,
> > >
> > >
> > > I read the article. Indeed, I also think if this pre-nucleation really
pans out, it would give a handle to think out how hydration works in space,
particularly in the early formation of chondrules?
> > >
> > >
> > > But then again: Got to get samples to study that. Back to figuring out how
to get scouts and prospectors out there?!
> > >
> > > Ueli
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >  From: mtmorganism <mtmorganism@>
> > > To: NEAmines@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 9:27 PM
> > > Subject: [NEAmines] Re: April Linx
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > > crystalization happens differently than we always thought. This has
interesting implications in the hydrate formation in chrondules.
> > >
> > >
http://sciencecareers.sciencemag.org/career_magazine/previous_issues/articles/20\
12_04_13/caredit.a1200042
> > >
> > > --- In NEAmines@yahoogroups.com, "mtmorganism" <mtmorganism@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > soemething is adding dust to an exo-planet debris disk, it keeps getting
replenishd. and staying warm. hmmm
> > > > http://arxiv.org/abs/0710.0839
> > > >
> > > > Some really interesting photos of Vesta lately. lots of very dark stains
around the craters, and lots more small crater chains.
> > > > http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/target/Other
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In NEAmines@yahoogroups.com, "mtmorganism" <mtmorganism@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > interesting story on astronaut safety over on Selenian Boondocks.
> > > > >
> > > > > SSI, that does the space manufacturing convention, has their latest
list up
> > > > >
> > > > > http://ssi.org/2010-conference-space-manufacturing-14/archive/
> > > > >
> > > > > Volatiles trapped in ice as it forms-plan your refueling and engines.
> > > > > http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0019103512000425
> > > > >
> > > > > The Seasteading forums have been basically closed, the members have
moved here. Lots of discussion on living conditions, materials, and some legal
stuff. I still think floating cannon for LEO is the way to go
> > > > >
> > > > > http://concretesubmarine.activeboard.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > Using nanobots to cut graphene ?
> > > > > http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2012SSPMA..42..358Z
> > > > >
> > > > > New timelines for chrondites
> > > > >
http://www.annualreviews.org/doi/abs/10.1146/annurev.earth.35.031306.140100?jour\
nalCode=earth
> > > > >
> > > > > Been doing trade shows for the shop in Vegas, just getting back in the
groove here.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

How mining on Earth may in future come to be regarded as a crime
against humanity....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/apr/24/climate-change-
human-rights-issue

The implications of a non-mining conglomerate, Planetary Resources,
pursuing an off-planet mining initiative is the most interesting
development of recent times.

It could have the beneficial effect of putting out of business, those
groundhog mining companies that have not yet run out of available
mineral reserves, by the influx of vast quantities of cheap
asteroidal metals driving down world prices.

It has become clear that global resources of all kinds are limited.
It is also clear that the deadline for dealing with climate issues
probably passed away some time way back in the 1980's, and what we
are left with to face now is an inevitable and long-term economic
decline through struggles with an increasingly hostile environment.

Insurance companies baling out from their responsibilities for storm
and flood damage, are the first signs that many will be left to fend
for themselves under the rule of purely capitalistic mind-sets.

So off-planet mining is likely to become a strategic necessity,
hopefully helping to forestall a return to a new Stone Age, while
potentially propelling us into a more expansive Space Age. Profit
should not here be the only motive for this kind of enterprise, since
we know already that road is leading to extinction, at least for the
Anthropocene Era.

It is not the poor that are a threat to the planet....but the rich....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/apr/26/world-population-
resources-paul-ehrlich


Jan

The beauty of figuring out how to process all the mixed materials in these
rocks, is that it will also teach us how to re-process all our existing mine
wastes.

The cascading processes and seperation schemes will mostly be applicable for all
these millons of tons of wastes, and for treating the wastewaters flowing out of
the areas.

Will be another gold rush here on earth.

morganism

--- In NEAmines@yahoogroups.com, EOS Mars Program <eos.mars.program@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> How mining on Earth may in future come to be regarded as a crime
> against humanity....
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/apr/24/climate-change-
> human-rights-issue
>
> The implications of a non-mining conglomerate, Planetary Resources,
> pursuing an off-planet mining initiative is the most interesting
> development of recent times.
>
> It could have the beneficial effect of putting out of business, those
> groundhog mining companies that have not yet run out of available
> mineral reserves, by the influx of vast quantities of cheap
> asteroidal metals driving down world prices.
>
> It has become clear that global resources of all kinds are limited.
> It is also clear that the deadline for dealing with climate issues
> probably passed away some time way back in the 1980's, and what we
> are left with to face now is an inevitable and long-term economic
> decline through struggles with an increasingly hostile environment.
>
> Insurance companies baling out from their responsibilities for storm
> and flood damage, are the first signs that many will be left to fend
> for themselves under the rule of purely capitalistic mind-sets.
>
> So off-planet mining is likely to become a strategic necessity,
> hopefully helping to forestall a return to a new Stone Age, while
> potentially propelling us into a more expansive Space Age. Profit
> should not here be the only motive for this kind of enterprise, since
> we know already that road is leading to extinction, at least for the
> Anthropocene Era.
>
> It is not the poor that are a threat to the planet....but the rich....
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/apr/26/world-population-
> resources-paul-ehrlich
>
>
> Jan
>

ESA  may just end up building the first tug
http://www.spacenews.com/civil/042712-esa-favors-upgrading-orion-over-building-i\
n-orbit-service-tug.html

latest programs from the Darpa space folks

http://www.nasa.gov/offices/oct/early_stage_innovation/niac/2012_NIAC_spring_sym\
posium_presentations.html

down on the page for some shielding vids.
http://www.nasa.gov/offices/oct/early_stage_innovation/niac/index.html

some space law updates
http://rescommunis.olemiss.edu/2012/04/23/library-a-round-up-of-reading-184/

David Brins take on the PM proposal
http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/brin20120428

a solar twin 200 lights away
http://arxiv.org/abs/1204.2766




--- In NEAmines@yahoogroups.com, "mtmorganism" <mtmorganism@...> wrote:
>
> interesting story on astronaut safety over on Selenian Boondocks.
>
> SSI, that does the space manufacturing convention, has their latest list up
>
> http://ssi.org/2010-conference-space-manufacturing-14/archive/
>
> Volatiles trapped in ice as it forms-plan your refueling and engines.
> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0019103512000425
>
> The Seasteading forums have been basically closed, the members have moved
here. Lots of discussion on living conditions, materials, and some legal stuff.
I still think floating cannon for LEO is the way to go
>
> http://concretesubmarine.activeboard.com/
>
> Using nanobots to cut graphene ?
> http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2012SSPMA..42..358Z
>
> New timelines for chrondites
>
http://www.annualreviews.org/doi/abs/10.1146/annurev.earth.35.031306.140100?jour\
nalCode=earth
>
> Been doing trade shows for the shop in Vegas, just getting back in the groove
here.
>

Skylon tests its Sabre multiphase orbital engine....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2136611/Civilian-space-
travel-just-got-step-closer-scientists-test-engine-spaceplane-fly-
earth-just-hours.html

The future may hold quite a few surprises in the shape of this jet-
rocket engine. After all, millions travel on another British gift to
the world, the invention of the jet engine, which has developed
significantly since its first inception, and which knits together a
global culture.

Quite possibly, it is just this kind of innovation that may be the
breakthrough to achieving cheap flight to LEO.....


Jan

Looks like the Blueseed seastead is going forward.

Look who is running it , Hmmmmmm.

Makes that Quicklaunch floating gun a LOT more attractive, along with your own
sovernity. Don't have to worry about space law if you havn't signed the accords,
or launch approvals, if you don't live in the US.

PM has got all the bases covered.

Seastead.org has effectivley closed their forums, almost impossible to have
discussions there, and the members think it is on purpose.
Guess they have a REAL project to go with now.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/06/floating_geek_cruiser_recruits_aussies/

Mining NEO's. Just put this back up, big download

http://www.uapress.arizona.edu/onlinebks/ResourcesNearEarthSpace/contents.php

Download your Gmail, so you can change mailboxes, or have a backup.encrypted for
the cloud too.

http://www.webmonkey.com/2012/05/backup-your-gmail-account-with-gmvault/

Gardening site where i have been hanging out learning desert gardening
http://www.permies.com/forums/c/1/

Yup the Brullion e-cat uses energy pulses to force neutron synthesis
http://translate.google.com/translate?ie=UTF8&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=it&tl\
=en&twu=1&u=http://www.greenstyle.it/brillouin-il-nostro-reattore-a-fusione-fred\
da-migliore-ecat-9118.html

space propulsion and energy forum wrap up
http://changingpower.net/space-propulsion-energy-sciences-internatl-forum/

The trigger for the methane gun just got pulled, lets hope it doesn't go off.
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?ie=UTF8&rurl=translate.google\
.com&sl=it&tl=en&u=http://energy.gov/articles/us-and-japan-complete-successful-f\
ield-trial-methane-hydrate-production-technologies&usg=ALkJrhgfbNHgWDmRQwk7M16RF\
yS20lLDIg

Just up on RLV transport news, space tug availible in 2014

http://www.spaceflightservices.com/MHome.php


--- In NEAmines@yahoogroups.com, "mtmorganism" <mtmorganism@...> wrote:
>
> Mining NEO's. Just put this back up, big download
>
> http://www.uapress.arizona.edu/onlinebks/ResourcesNearEarthSpace/contents.php
>
> Download your Gmail, so you can change mailboxes, or have a backup.encrypted
for the cloud too.
>
> http://www.webmonkey.com/2012/05/backup-your-gmail-account-with-gmvault/
>
> Gardening site where i have been hanging out learning desert gardening
> http://www.permies.com/forums/c/1/
>
> Yup the Brullion e-cat uses energy pulses to force neutron synthesis
>
http://translate.google.com/translate?ie=UTF8&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=it&tl\
=en&twu=1&u=http://www.greenstyle.it/brillouin-il-nostro-reattore-a-fusione-fred\
da-migliore-ecat-9118.html
>
> space propulsion and energy forum wrap up
> http://changingpower.net/space-propulsion-energy-sciences-internatl-forum/
>
> The trigger for the methane gun just got pulled, lets hope it doesn't go off.
>
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?ie=UTF8&rurl=translate.google\
.com&sl=it&tl=en&u=http://energy.gov/articles/us-and-japan-complete-successful-f\
ield-trial-methane-hydrate-production-technologies&usg=ALkJrhgfbNHgWDmRQwk7M16RF\
yS20lLDIg
>

May 10, 2012

SpaceX and Bigelow Aerospace Join Forces to Offer Crewed Missions to Private Space Stations

Hawthorne, CA, and Las Vegas, NV� Space Exploration Technologies (SpaceX) and Bigelow Aerospace (BA) have agreed to conduct a joint marketing effort focused on international customers. The two companies will offer rides on SpaceX�s Dragon spacecraft, using the Falcon launch vehicle to carry passengers to Bigelow habitats orbiting the Earth.

According to Bigelow Aerospace�s President and Founder, Robert T. Bigelow, �We�re very excited to be working with our colleagues at SpaceX to present the unique services that our two companies can offer to international clientele. We�re eager to join them overseas to discuss the substantial benefits that BA 330 leasing can offer in combination with SpaceX transportation capabilities�.

The BA 330 is a habitat that will provide roughly 330 cubic meters of usable volume and can support a crew of up to six. Bigelow Aerospace plans to connect two or more BA 330s in orbit to provide national space agencies, companies, and universities with unparalleled access to the microgravity environment.

�SpaceX and BA have a lot in common. Both companies were founded to help create a new era in space enterprise,� said SpaceX President Gwynne Shotwell. �Together we will provide unique opportunities to entities -- whether nations or corporations -- wishing to have crewed access to the space environment for extended periods. I�m looking forward to working with Bigelow Aerospace and engaging with international customers,� Shotwell explained.

SpaceX�s Dragon spacecraft will be capable of carrying seven passengers to orbit. With the company�s Falcon family of rockets, SpaceX is working to create the world�s safest human spaceflight system.

The companies will kick off their marketing effort in Asia. Representatives from Bigelow and SpaceX will meet with officials in Japan shortly after the next launch of the Falcon 9 and Dragon spacecraft.

About SpaceX

SpaceX designs, manufactures and launches the world�s most advanced rockets and spacecraft. With a diverse manifest of launches to deliver commercial and government satellites to orbit, SpaceX is the world�s fastest growing space launch company. In 2010, SpaceX became the first commercial company in history to put a spacecraft into orbit and return it safely to Earth. With the retirement of the space shuttle, the SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket and Dragon spacecraft will soon carry cargo and astronauts to and from the International Space Station for NASA. Founded in 2002 by Elon Musk, SpaceX is a private company owned by management and employees, with minority investments from the Founders Fund, Draper Fisher Jurvetson, and Valor Equity Partners. The company has over 1,700 employees in California, Texas, Washington, D.C., and Florida. For more information, visit spacex.com.

About Bigelow Aerospace

Bigelow Aerospace is an entrepreneurial company dedicated to revolutionizing space commerce and exploration via the development of next-generation expandable habitat technology. Bigelow Aerospace�s habitats will offer unprecedented amounts of volume on-orbit while providing astronauts with enhanced protection against radiation and physical debris. Bigelow habitats are also lighter and more affordable than traditional rigidized metallic structures. Bigelow Aerospace is the first and only organization to demonstrate expandable habitat technology in orbit, via the successful launch of Genesis I in 2006 and Genesis II in 2007. Bigelow Aerospace has manufacturing facilities and offices in Nevada and Maryland. For more information, visit bigelowaerospace.com.

Interesting....!

Jan

RLV is space transport news, consolidator of space news. Should be on your daily
list.

http://hobbyspace.com/nucleus/

I am also following the OPAG, outer planets workgroup, similar to the Mars
workgroup. Here is a historical story about the mission that almost happened
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/05/galileo-style-uranus-tour-2003/

  A most fabulous software package, we should migrate ALL the info we have to a
database like this, and start one for yourself !
5 stars !!!
http://wikidpad.sourceforge.net/

Vesta meteroites. Don't know if this is still valid, no researchers will tell me
if there was any basalt found on Vesta. Orange filter doesn't show much. (ignore
the orange for height mapping)

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn21801-astrophile-two-craters-that-launched\
-1000-meteorites.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news



--- In NEAmines@yahoogroups.com, "mtmorganism" <mtmorganism@...> wrote:
>
> Just up on RLV transport news, space tug availible in 2014
>
> http://www.spaceflightservices.com/MHome.php
>
>
> --- In NEAmines@yahoogroups.com, "mtmorganism" <mtmorganism@> wrote:
> >
> > Mining NEO's. Just put this back up, big download
> >
> >
http://www.uapress.arizona.edu/onlinebks/ResourcesNearEarthSpace/contents.php
> >
> > Download your Gmail, so you can change mailboxes, or have a backup.encrypted
for the cloud too.
> >
> > http://www.webmonkey.com/2012/05/backup-your-gmail-account-with-gmvault/
> >
> > Gardening site where i have been hanging out learning desert gardening
> > http://www.permies.com/forums/c/1/
> >
> > Yup the Brullion e-cat uses energy pulses to force neutron synthesis
> >
http://translate.google.com/translate?ie=UTF8&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=it&tl\
=en&twu=1&u=http://www.greenstyle.it/brillouin-il-nostro-reattore-a-fusione-fred\
da-migliore-ecat-9118.html
> >
> > space propulsion and energy forum wrap up
> > http://changingpower.net/space-propulsion-energy-sciences-internatl-forum/
> >
> > The trigger for the methane gun just got pulled, lets hope it doesn't go
off.
> >
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?ie=UTF8&rurl=translate.google\
.com&sl=it&tl=en&u=http://energy.gov/articles/us-and-japan-complete-successful-f\
ield-trial-methane-hydrate-production-technologies&usg=ALkJrhgfbNHgWDmRQwk7M16RF\
yS20lLDIg
> >
>

Looks like my mining tool is getting closer to a tabletop model.

http://nextbigfuture.com/2009/06/berkeley-lab-targets-1-meter-long-10.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_acceleration

this is still the easiest way i can find to actually mine.
throw a conductive mylar bag over the top, and use it as a cathode for
deposition, and voila, you have separated oxides, laminated to a film for ease
of movement and refining.
Looks like we may be able to tune the frequencies, to drive off metals or
silicas. Am keeping my eye out on this, because the MET engines can produce the
plasma to get the reaction going, then there will be enough plasma flowing
inside the bag to keep it going. Metals will be attracted to the walls/cathode,
and the volatiles will be heated enough to pressurize the bag to hold it open,
and siphon off gases into a separate system to pressurize and separate them
more.

--- In NEAmines@yahoogroups.com, "mtmorganism" <mtmorganism@...> wrote:
>
> more on using the resonant chambers in microwave (and works on charged
particles in plasmas too)
>
>
> paywalled microwave resonance article
> http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/9780470686652.eae125/abstract
>
> and using a MET for deposition of mining materials on bag walls
> http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/pt/diamond/mwpecvd1.htm
>
> same site, they show that diamond films emit electrons too. Might be able to
use that as outer shielding for some of the charged particles in space, and
around the mining eqpt.
> http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/pt/diamond/feds.htm
>
> Using magnets to steer microwave thrust. These appear to be easily modified to
be off the shelf attitude jets!!
>
http://www.hitachi-hta.com/products/semiconductor-etch-equipment/etch-chambers/p\
lasma-etch-chamber-microwave-ecr-xt
>
> someone else points out that you want to have 2 magnetrons, in staggered
series, to keep power output steady.
>
> old NASA study
>
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19890017533_1989017533.pdf
> and
> Microwave ECR Ion Thruster Development Activities at NASA Glenn Research
Center
> John E. Foster, Michael J. Patterson
>
>
>
> Hydrogen from methane with RF
> [PDF] Alec D. Gallimore, Ph.D.
>
> order the cd? lots of info up in the home site.
> http://www.spl.ch/publication/ESA-SpacePropulsion-04.html
>
> Latest launches and launchers from germany
> http://space.skyrocket.de/
>
> these plasma motors are going to production soon
> http://pesn.com/2009/07/18/9501554_Plasma_Transition_Process_motor_system/
>

it is the SHERPA, two sizes , can get packages to Luna!
link works to home site.

--- In NEAmines@yahoogroups.com, Ueli Scheuermeier <uscheuermeier@...> wrote:
>
> Morgan,
>
>
> I looked up the website, but didn't find any orbital tug. What did I miss? And
what does RLV stand for? 
>
> Thanks for being alert on these things!
>
> Ueli
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: mtmorganism <mtmorganism@...>
> To: NEAmines@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 1:26 AM
> Subject: [NEAmines] Re: May links
>
>
>  
> Just up on RLV transport news, space tug availible in 2014
>
> http://www.spaceflightservices.com/MHome.php
>
> --- In NEAmines@yahoogroups.com, "mtmorganism" <mtmorganism@> wrote:
> >
> > Mining NEO's. Just put this back up, big download
> >
> >
http://www.uapress.arizona.edu/onlinebks/ResourcesNearEarthSpace/contents.php
> >
> > Download your Gmail, so you can change mailboxes, or have a backup.encrypted
for the cloud too.
> >
> > http://www.webmonkey.com/2012/05/backup-your-gmail-account-with-gmvault/
> >
> > Gardening site where i have been hanging out learning desert gardening
> > http://www.permies.com/forums/c/1/
> >
> > Yup the Brullion e-cat uses energy pulses to force neutron synthesis
> >
http://translate.google.com/translate?ie=UTF8&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=it&tl\
=en&twu=1&u=http://www.greenstyle.it/brillouin-il-nostro-reattore-a-fusione-fred\
da-migliore-ecat-9118.html
> >
> > space propulsion and energy forum wrap up
> > http://changingpower.net/space-propulsion-energy-sciences-internatl-forum/
> >
> > The trigger for the methane gun just got pulled, lets hope it doesn't go
off.
> >
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?ie=UTF8&rurl=translate.google\
.com&sl=it&tl=en&u=http://energy.gov/articles/us-and-japan-complete-successful-f\
ield-trial-methane-hydrate-production-technologies&usg=ALkJrhgfbNHgWDmRQwk7M16RF\
yS20lLDIg
> >
>

hm, intro to space effects on electronics.

http://ewh.ieee.org/soc/nps/lecturers.html

This two-hour course provides basic information about the effects of space
radiation on electronics and microelectronics. It begins with a discussion of
radiation environments near the earth, as well as in deep space where solar
flares and galactic particles are the dominant source of radiation. Basic
interactions of light and heavy particles are treated, and applied to
fundamental electronic structures. The following section discusses various
effects caused by the interaction of a single energetic particle, including
single-event upset, latchup and gate rupture. Several examples are included to
show how modern devices are affected by these phenomena, as well as how they are
influenced by device scaling. The last section discusses total dose and
displacement damage (which are caused by the integrated effect of many different
particles). The material includes a discussion of enhanced damage at low dose
rate (ELDRs), as well as methods for testing and selecting components that can
withstand the harsh space environment.

--- In NEAmines@yahoogroups.com, "mtmorganism" <mtmorganism@...> wrote:
>
> RLV is space transport news, consolidator of space news. Should be on your
daily list.
>
> http://hobbyspace.com/nucleus/
>
> I am also following the OPAG, outer planets workgroup, similar to the Mars
workgroup. Here is a historical story about the mission that almost happened
> http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/05/galileo-style-uranus-tour-2003/
>
>  A most fabulous software package, we should migrate ALL the info we have to a
database like this, and start one for yourself !
> 5 stars !!!
> http://wikidpad.sourceforge.net/
>
> Vesta meteroites. Don't know if this is still valid, no researchers will tell
me if there was any basalt found on Vesta. Orange filter doesn't show much.
(ignore the orange for height mapping)
>
>
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn21801-astrophile-two-craters-that-launched\
-1000-meteorites.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news
>
>
>
> --- In NEAmines@yahoogroups.com, "mtmorganism" <mtmorganism@> wrote:
> >
> > Just up on RLV transport news, space tug availible in 2014
> >
> > http://www.spaceflightservices.com/MHome.php
> >
> >
> > --- In NEAmines@yahoogroups.com, "mtmorganism" <mtmorganism@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Mining NEO's. Just put this back up, big download
> > >
> > >
http://www.uapress.arizona.edu/onlinebks/ResourcesNearEarthSpace/contents.php
> > >
> > > Download your Gmail, so you can change mailboxes, or have a
backup.encrypted for the cloud too.
> > >
> > > http://www.webmonkey.com/2012/05/backup-your-gmail-account-with-gmvault/
> > >
> > > Gardening site where i have been hanging out learning desert gardening
> > > http://www.permies.com/forums/c/1/
> > >
> > > Yup the Brullion e-cat uses energy pulses to force neutron synthesis
> > >
http://translate.google.com/translate?ie=UTF8&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=it&tl\
=en&twu=1&u=http://www.greenstyle.it/brillouin-il-nostro-reattore-a-fusione-fred\
da-migliore-ecat-9118.html
> > >
> > > space propulsion and energy forum wrap up
> > > http://changingpower.net/space-propulsion-energy-sciences-internatl-forum/
> > >
> > > The trigger for the methane gun just got pulled, lets hope it doesn't go
off.
> > >
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?ie=UTF8&rurl=translate.google\
.com&sl=it&tl=en&u=http://energy.gov/articles/us-and-japan-complete-successful-f\
ield-trial-methane-hydrate-production-technologies&usg=ALkJrhgfbNHgWDmRQwk7M16RF\
yS20lLDIg
> > >
> >
>