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From today's post to NSCSS News and Views: Being a Client of Soil Science Education :

I was reading my February 2007 CSA News, and was struck by the message from SSSA President, Rattan Lal, "Making Soil Science Education Relevant to Societal Needs". Portions could have come straight off the NSCSS wiki Education Project page, a work in progress that Willem van Eck and I have been working on this month.

"In an era of budgetary constraints, dwindling faculty positions, declining enrollment, and the ever-looming threat of extinction to soil science departments within the Land Grant University systems, soil science must be taught as a business."

Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:57 pm

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From today's post to NSCSS News and Views: Being a Client of Soil Science Education <http://consultingsoilscientists.blogspot.com/2007/01/being-client-of-so\ ... 		Philip Small
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4:58 pm

Frankly, soil science needs to veer away from a historically production-ag focus and center more on environmental and economic applications. Phiilipe Baveye...
Montgomery, James
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Send Email 		Jan 24, 2007
7:53 pm

The undergraduate population of the soil science program at UCD is 25% or less from the days we were there. For whatever reason, there doesn't seem to be any...
Sidney Davis
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Send Email 		Jan 24, 2007
8:00 pm

I am a soil scientist and I am chair of the environmental science program at DePaul University. "Environmental science", as you state in parentheses, is a...
Montgomery, James
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Send Email 		Jan 24, 2007
9:07 pm

I do not mean to minimize your program. It is probably a very good one. My curriculum at UC Davis in 1976 focused on soils, which largely means chemistry,...
Sidney Davis
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Send Email 		Jan 25, 2007
12:39 am

Good points all. But rather than focusing on whether or not the job candidate has a degree in environmental science or not, shouldn't the real issue be the...
Montgomery, James
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Send Email 		Jan 25, 2007
4:41 am

Soils information is a hard sell, even to large-scale production farmers. I seldom get a call from a farmer to have land detail mapped. It isn't surprising...
Sidney Davis
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Send Email 		Jan 25, 2007
4:40 pm

Your are correct Sidney. I am not sure where these notions come from exactly. But I suspect those involved in restoration of degraded ecosystems have gotten...
Montgomery, James
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Send Email 		Jan 25, 2007
5:20 pm

Once farm ground has assessments placed on land titles, such as sewer trunk lines or water lines crossing regional boundaries, it no longer becomes...
Sidney Davis
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Send Email 		Jan 25, 2007
10:22 pm

Sidney; Long time! when are we going down the Colorado River again? What a ride that was. I have a bumper sticker that says " A nation that destroys its soils,...
James Fincham
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6:37 am

Sidney Gee, I don't know what you mean by humok/hogwallow relief, but I'll take your word on it. But frankly, you have made no compelling case as to why vernal...
Montgomery, James
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Send Email 		Jan 26, 2007
10:26 am

Folks, I'm enjoying the discussion and have decided to chime in with my own thoughts. I believe the issues facing us today are related to educating the...
Paul Reynolds
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3:55 pm

I agree Paul, though your quote: "It's unfortunate that I've felt it necessary to tell the younger generations that if they have an interest in these areas,...
Montgomery, James
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Send Email 		Jan 25, 2007
5:38 pm

Hello all, I agree that the future of soil science lies in urban environments, and as I mull about why that may be, I can come up with two main reasons: 1)...
Pacific Rim Soil & Wa...
pacificrim_lisa
Offline Send Email 		Jan 25, 2007
9:12 pm

Lisa I think you just answered your own question posed in the last sentence! You can certainly imagine the looks I get when I tell folks I am a soil scientist...
Montgomery, James
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Send Email 		Jan 26, 2007
4:23 am

Hello all, Lisa Palazzi here again. I have been fascinated reading this recent discussion; it is a subject I have been living with for the past three years...
Pacific Rim Soil & Wa...
pacificrim_lisa
Offline Send Email 		Jan 26, 2007
10:52 pm

Lisa (and the bigger Collective of Soil Science Professionals out there): I do appreciate Lisa's shared words and passion. I have not been good about staying...
Scott Rozenbaum
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1:45 am

I certainly would like to know what NRCS folks made these comments "When the NRCS guys asked what kind of soil work they did, my students chimed that they did...
ben
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Offline Send Email 		Jan 29, 2007
12:27 pm

Thanks Ben. I suspect these NRCS guys are the exception rather than the rule, at least among the NRCS folks I know. I don't think they understood the nature of...
Montgomery, James
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Send Email 		Jan 29, 2007
3:47 pm
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