[NetgearMP101Group] Good results with Hardware Mods
Hi,
Well – the Netgear RTP change was a
short lived success – my box was back to skipping and crashing within 12
hours, though it has to be said, miles better than before using RTP. It
was still unstable, skipping tracks, and so on, just not so bad. However –
I have now got it completely stable …. and the solution cost me pennies.
If you are handy with a soldering iron, read on – if you are not, then
this message is not for you.
For the first time, I ran the box with the
lid off, and I then ‘went nuclear’ in my approach to this POS –
kill or cure.
I noticed that the Marvell Wireless chip and
the MP3 decoder chip were getting warm to the touch when playing songs (though
cool when not). Ordinarily, I would not have considered either to be
getting hot enough to be a problem, but given the heat problems I know some Netgear
routers have been having (just Google for it), it is just possible …….
1)So I took a passive heatsink off an old graphics card (who would
want a PCI Riva TNT 2 these days ….), and epoxied it so that it spanned
the Marvell, the MP3 and the tops of the flash rom and the DRAM chips (hard to
describe, but the approx 1.5 inch square heatsink really does cover 75% of all
four of those chips and doesn’t foul anything at board level).
Saved me having to cut down the heatsink.
I noticed that there are two positions on
the right hand edge of the board (looking from the front panel) where power
supply smoothing capacitors seemed to have been deleted from the production
mainboard (though you can bet they were present in the prototype and
development boards). One of them looks to be intended to be smoothing the
power supply to the components inside the metal RF shield, and the other possibly
for power supply to the Microcontroller in the socket.
2)So I soldered two 470 uF 16v electrolytics (the standard ones
fitted to this board are 1000 uF 10v, but 470’s were the largest I had to
hand… and something has got to be better than nothing) into the two ‘empty’
spaces on the mainboard. Those caps *must*
have been originally in the design for a reason, and so putting them back has
to do some good methinks. Perhaps removed to save money in the final
design?
I noticed that if I held my finger over
the solder pads where the aerial joins the mainboard (an old RF engineers trick
to add a mix of capacitive and resistive load…), the signal strength stabilized
according to the Link Info on the MP101. I looked closely at the board
and noticed that two SMT capacitors had been deleted from the mainboard around
where my finger was poking – one of which (if present) would capacitively
couple the antenna inner wire to what looks like a power supply chip ground
pin.
3)So I soldered a 100 pF (just a guess) capacitor between the antenna
inner wire and earth on the mainboard (thus replacing one of the two deleted
capacitors). This helped a little, but when I replaced it with a 47 pF
capacitor instead, things got a *lot*
healthier looking. This could be a missing part of an intended LC resonance
circuit, with the capacitor deleted from the production version because it
relies on the capacitance of the PCB (or just deleted by mistake) … just
a hunch – my MP101 seems to like having the capacitor in place, and
clearly the PCB made provision for one being in that location ……..
I didn’t bother with the other deleted capacitor, as it looked to be a
part of a low pass filter (to block out RF higher than 2.4 GHz). I have
nothing transmitting higher than 2.4 GHz, and so didn’t see the point.
Guess what. My MP101 is now *completely* stable. It finds the
wireless network first time, it doesn’t crash, skip tracks, freeze, or do
any of the other ugly things it used to do to irritate me. As bad as it
gets now is that it sometimes takes two goes to find the server (Twonky).
My MP101 is now so stable that I have
reinstated the original antenna, and taken off the high gain one I added as an
experiment – so the box looks pretty much as it did when it left the
factory – until you take the lid off that is, and notice the new heatsink,
extra electrolytics, and ceramic disk capacitor J
Hope this helps someone. It has
saved my MP101 from the trash, and I believe returned the circuit to near ‘pre-production’,
where it must obviously have worked well.
MP101 -f/w ver=V1.4.7 -wired (never could get wireless to work) -static IP Twonky v2.9 (free version), running on WXP Pro, SP2, firewall disabled ZoneAlarm...
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