Interesting that you comment on the battery contacts.  All of my
batteries have a groove-like pattern on the connections - the grooves on
this battery are the deepest.   I did the pencil eraser trick and it did
not work.  No LCD when battery is in the camera and the light blinks 3
times in the charger and then shuts off.

   Are the TP batteries reliable?  On B&H they are $10 cheaper than the
Nikon.

Aloha,
Pam

See the world through AuntyFrog's eyes
http://froghousephoto.com/
http://www.pbase.com/afrogie/



Edmund F Leavitt wrote:
> None of mine have died.  I have one Nikon branded and three second tier
> ones for the D50.
> The sudden death you experienced is quite unusual from my experience with
> rechargeable batteries, though admittedly the first 45 years experience
> is mostly with NiCd chemistry and these are Lithium Ion if I recall.  One
> sign of decline is where the capacity trails off very gradually.  The
> other more common problem is what I call "slow to die" where the battery
> behaves as if it is about to die, but takes forever to actually do it.
> That is a sign that one of the internal cells has shorted.  It would
> probably cause rather slow recycling for the internal flash, and you
> might get the low battery warning shortly after you recharged it but it
> wouldn't totally quit for a rather long time.
>
> Sudden death is rare.  Take a hard look at the metal contacts on the
> offending battery.  Take a standard pencil eraser and polish them up and
> try them again in the charger / camera.
>
>
>

None of mine have died.  I have one Nikon branded and three second tier
ones for the D50.
The sudden death you experienced is quite unusual from my experience with
rechargeable batteries, though admittedly the first 45 years experience
is mostly with NiCd chemistry and these are Lithium Ion if I recall.  One
sign of decline is where the capacity trails off very gradually.  The
other more common problem is what I call "slow to die" where the battery
behaves as if it is about to die, but takes forever to actually do it.
That is a sign that one of the internal cells has shorted.  It would
probably cause rather slow recycling for the internal flash, and you
might get the low battery warning shortly after you recharged it but it
wouldn't totally quit for a rather long time.

Sudden death is rare.  Take a hard look at the metal contacts on the
offending battery.  Take a standard pencil eraser and polish them up and
try them again in the charger / camera.

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On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 06:01:35 -1000 Pam Haley - AuntyFrog
<auntyfrog@...> writes:
> What is TP?
>
> Aloha,
> Pam
>
>
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I'm in the same boat, original battery is still behaving.  I never did get any
spares (unless stealing/borrowing the battery from either of my two son's D50
cameras counts!

Loy

--- In Nikon-D50@yahoogroups.com, "radiorabbi" <radiorabbi@...> wrote:
>
> Andy our experience with batteries is similar to yours.
>
>  1 with the D50 Kit 4 years ago  and 1 a month or so later from a local Camera
cooperative here in Canada about 50 bucks cheaper.
>
> So far the $50 we saved was worth it
>
>
> Mike
>
> --- In Nikon-D50@yahoogroups.com, "andydzl" <drewhound@> wrote:
> >
> > Mike, my TP batteries are hanging on well. They never did last as long,
maybe 80%, but I can't say I've noticed much drop in any of them, they're over
four years old now
> >
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
> >
> > > It would be interesting  to see how the life expectancy of the Nikon units
compare to the much less expensive no name units.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hope it helps
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Nikon-D50@yahoogroups.com, Pam Haley - Auntyfrog <auntyfrog@>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I had my camera out last night - took some pics, shut camera off,
> > > > pulled the card then used a card reader to upload to the computer.
> > > >
> > > > When the upload was done I put the card back in the camera, formatted
> > > > it  and turned the camera off. As I was putting my camera a away for the
> > > > night I saw that the LCD on top was blank  - it appeared the battery had
> > > > run out, which is unusual as I seldom run my batteries real low.  I
> > > > stuck the batter in the charger, the light blinked a couple times and
> > > > then turned off.  I tried another battery in the camera and all was well
> > > > with the camera.  I tried to recharge the dead one a couple times and
> > > > got the same results - blink, blink, dead.
> > > >
> > > > This battery is about 2 years old - it is not my oldest - it is one of 4
> > > > that I rotate between the cameras.
> > > >
> > > > Is this typical of battery end-of-life syndrome?  Do they just up and
> > > > die like this?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > .--
> > > >
> > > > Aloha,
> > > > Pam
> > > >
> > > > See the world through AuntyFrog's eyes
> > > > http://froghousephoto.com/
> > > > http://www.pbase.com/afrogie/
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Sorry Pam, Third Party maker, though Nikon don't make their own anyway :-)

Andy


> What is TP?
>
> Aloha,
> Pam
>
> See the world through AuntyFrog's eyes
> http://froghousephoto.com/
> http://www.pbase.com/afrogie/
>
>
>
> andydzl wrote:
> > Mike, my TP batteries are hanging on well. They never did last as long,
maybe 80%, but I can't say I've noticed much drop in any of them, they're over
four years old now
> >
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

I can't be certain Pam but i would think it would be the UK equivalent of  "No
Name Brand" or other than "Original Equipment Manufacturer"

Mike


--- In Nikon-D50@yahoogroups.com, Pam Haley - AuntyFrog <auntyfrog@...> wrote:
>
> What is TP?
>
> Aloha,
> Pam
>
> See the world through AuntyFrog's eyes
> http://froghousephoto.com/
> http://www.pbase.com/afrogie/
>
>
>
> andydzl wrote:
> > Mike, my TP batteries are hanging on well. They never did last as long,
maybe 80%, but I can't say I've noticed much drop in any of them, they're over
four years old now
> >
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

What is TP?

Aloha,
Pam

See the world through AuntyFrog's eyes
http://froghousephoto.com/
http://www.pbase.com/afrogie/



andydzl wrote:
> Mike, my TP batteries are hanging on well. They never did last as long, maybe
80%, but I can't say I've noticed much drop in any of them, they're over four
years old now
>
>
> Andy
>
>
>
>
>

Andy our experience with batteries is similar to yours.

  1 with the D50 Kit 4 years ago  and 1 a month or so later from a local Camera
cooperative here in Canada about 50 bucks cheaper.

So far the $50 we saved was worth it


Mike

--- In Nikon-D50@yahoogroups.com, "andydzl" <drewhound@...> wrote:
>
> Mike, my TP batteries are hanging on well. They never did last as long, maybe
80%, but I can't say I've noticed much drop in any of them, they're over four
years old now
>
>
> Andy
>
>
>
> > It would be interesting  to see how the life expectancy of the Nikon units
compare to the much less expensive no name units.
> >
> >
> > Hope it helps
> >
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > --- In Nikon-D50@yahoogroups.com, Pam Haley - Auntyfrog <auntyfrog@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I had my camera out last night - took some pics, shut camera off,
> > > pulled the card then used a card reader to upload to the computer.
> > >
> > > When the upload was done I put the card back in the camera, formatted
> > > it  and turned the camera off. As I was putting my camera a away for the
> > > night I saw that the LCD on top was blank  - it appeared the battery had
> > > run out, which is unusual as I seldom run my batteries real low.  I
> > > stuck the batter in the charger, the light blinked a couple times and
> > > then turned off.  I tried another battery in the camera and all was well
> > > with the camera.  I tried to recharge the dead one a couple times and
> > > got the same results - blink, blink, dead.
> > >
> > > This battery is about 2 years old - it is not my oldest - it is one of 4
> > > that I rotate between the cameras.
> > >
> > > Is this typical of battery end-of-life syndrome?  Do they just up and
> > > die like this?
> > >
> > >
> > > .--
> > >
> > > Aloha,
> > > Pam
> > >
> > > See the world through AuntyFrog's eyes
> > > http://froghousephoto.com/
> > > http://www.pbase.com/afrogie/
> > >
> >
>

Mike, my TP batteries are hanging on well. They never did last as long, maybe
80%, but I can't say I've noticed much drop in any of them, they're over four
years old now


Andy



> It would be interesting  to see how the life expectancy of the Nikon units
compare to the much less expensive no name units.
>
>
> Hope it helps
>
>
> Mike
>
>
> --- In Nikon-D50@yahoogroups.com, Pam Haley - Auntyfrog <auntyfrog@> wrote:
> >
> > I had my camera out last night - took some pics, shut camera off,
> > pulled the card then used a card reader to upload to the computer.
> >
> > When the upload was done I put the card back in the camera, formatted
> > it  and turned the camera off. As I was putting my camera a away for the
> > night I saw that the LCD on top was blank  - it appeared the battery had
> > run out, which is unusual as I seldom run my batteries real low.  I
> > stuck the batter in the charger, the light blinked a couple times and
> > then turned off.  I tried another battery in the camera and all was well
> > with the camera.  I tried to recharge the dead one a couple times and
> > got the same results - blink, blink, dead.
> >
> > This battery is about 2 years old - it is not my oldest - it is one of 4
> > that I rotate between the cameras.
> >
> > Is this typical of battery end-of-life syndrome?  Do they just up and
> > die like this?
> >
> >
> > .--
> >
> > Aloha,
> > Pam
> >
> > See the world through AuntyFrog's eyes
> > http://froghousephoto.com/
> > http://www.pbase.com/afrogie/
> >
>

Pam, in your case this is probably not a factor but the battery that came with
my D50 was over 15 months old when I got it; that's a fair piece out of the
lifespan of the battery!

Andy


> Thanks Mike.  I do not use "other" brand batteries - this was a Nikon
> EN-EL3e purchased in 2006 as a backup for the D50 black one (which is
> still going strong BTW).  The suddenness of the battery death really
> took my surprise - working one minute and dead the next (literally).
> Now that I think about it, there may have been a warning flag about a
> month ago when I was getting EEEE error on the D50 and thought the
> camera was getting ready to give up the ghost.  I changed the D50
> battery and it has been fine since.  I am pretty sure the battery in the
> D50 was the same one that went to the great Li-ion in the sky this
> morning.  I number the batteries as I get them and this was my #2, which
> meant it was the second battery I got.  Now I number and date.
>
> I'm just happy it was not the camera that was on the fritz!!
>
> Talking about battery, on page 307 of the D300s manual there is
> information on  battery life percentage.  I wish I had remembered this
> before the Li-ion demise.  All my other batteries are at 100% (good).
>
> New Nikon battery from Amazon is on the way to Paradise.
>
>
> Aloha,
> Pam
>
> See the world through AuntyFrog's eyes
> http://froghousephoto.com/
> http://www.pbase.com/afrogie/
>
>
>
> radiorabbi wrote:
> >  Pam
> >
> > Trouble in Paradise??
> >
> >
> > yeah batteries tend to behave in that fashion sometimes.
> >
> > Just as often they will seem to be able to reach less and less charge until
they fail.
> >
> > Was it a battery from Nikon or  an equivalent from somebody else?
> >
> > Just curios  we have 5 batteries at this point  3 for our D300 and the 2 we
had for the D50 the 50 can use those for the 300 but the 300 can't use the
earlier models.
> >
> > It would be interesting  to see how the life expectancy of the Nikon units
compare to the much less expensive no name units.
> >
> >
> > Hope it helps
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Thanks Mike.  I do not use "other" brand batteries - this was a Nikon
EN-EL3e purchased in 2006 as a backup for the D50 black one (which is
still going strong BTW).  The suddenness of the battery death really
took my surprise - working one minute and dead the next (literally).
Now that I think about it, there may have been a warning flag about a
month ago when I was getting EEEE error on the D50 and thought the
camera was getting ready to give up the ghost.  I changed the D50
battery and it has been fine since.  I am pretty sure the battery in the
D50 was the same one that went to the great Li-ion in the sky this
morning.  I number the batteries as I get them and this was my #2, which
meant it was the second battery I got.  Now I number and date.

I'm just happy it was not the camera that was on the fritz!!

Talking about battery, on page 307 of the D300s manual there is
information on  battery life percentage.  I wish I had remembered this
before the Li-ion demise.  All my other batteries are at 100% (good).

New Nikon battery from Amazon is on the way to Paradise.


Aloha,
Pam

See the world through AuntyFrog's eyes
http://froghousephoto.com/
http://www.pbase.com/afrogie/



radiorabbi wrote:
>  Pam
>
> Trouble in Paradise??
>
>
> yeah batteries tend to behave in that fashion sometimes.
>
> Just as often they will seem to be able to reach less and less charge until
they fail.
>
> Was it a battery from Nikon or  an equivalent from somebody else?
>
> Just curios  we have 5 batteries at this point  3 for our D300 and the 2 we
had for the D50 the 50 can use those for the 300 but the 300 can't use the
earlier models.
>
> It would be interesting  to see how the life expectancy of the Nikon units
compare to the much less expensive no name units.
>
>
> Hope it helps
>
>
>
>

Pam

Trouble in Paradise??


yeah batteries tend to behave in that fashion sometimes.

Just as often they will seem to be able to reach less and less charge until they
fail.

Was it a battery from Nikon or  an equivalent from somebody else?

Just curios  we have 5 batteries at this point  3 for our D300 and the 2 we had
for the D50 the 50 can use those for the 300 but the 300 can't use the earlier
models.

It would be interesting  to see how the life expectancy of the Nikon units
compare to the much less expensive no name units.


Hope it helps


Mike


--- In Nikon-D50@yahoogroups.com, Pam Haley - Auntyfrog <auntyfrog@...> wrote:
>
> I had my camera out last night - took some pics, shut camera off,
> pulled the card then used a card reader to upload to the computer.
>
> When the upload was done I put the card back in the camera, formatted
> it  and turned the camera off. As I was putting my camera a away for the
> night I saw that the LCD on top was blank  - it appeared the battery had
> run out, which is unusual as I seldom run my batteries real low.  I
> stuck the batter in the charger, the light blinked a couple times and
> then turned off.  I tried another battery in the camera and all was well
> with the camera.  I tried to recharge the dead one a couple times and
> got the same results - blink, blink, dead.
>
> This battery is about 2 years old - it is not my oldest - it is one of 4
> that I rotate between the cameras.
>
> Is this typical of battery end-of-life syndrome?  Do they just up and
> die like this?
>
>
> .--
>
> Aloha,
> Pam
>
> See the world through AuntyFrog's eyes
> http://froghousephoto.com/
> http://www.pbase.com/afrogie/
>

I had my camera out last night - took some pics, shut camera off,
pulled the card then used a card reader to upload to the computer.

When the upload was done I put the card back in the camera, formatted
it  and turned the camera off. As I was putting my camera a away for the
night I saw that the LCD on top was blank  - it appeared the battery had
run out, which is unusual as I seldom run my batteries real low.  I
stuck the batter in the charger, the light blinked a couple times and
then turned off.  I tried another battery in the camera and all was well
with the camera.  I tried to recharge the dead one a couple times and
got the same results - blink, blink, dead.

This battery is about 2 years old - it is not my oldest - it is one of 4
that I rotate between the cameras.

Is this typical of battery end-of-life syndrome?  Do they just up and
die like this?


.--

Aloha,
Pam

See the world through AuntyFrog's eyes
http://froghousephoto.com/
http://www.pbase.com/afrogie/

I just want to add my Happy New Year to everyone on the list as well. I've been
a silent observer for quite a while now although older members may remember when
I was a lot more active. Life has thrown me some curves the past couple of years
but there is light at the end of the tunnel. I hope 2010 is the start of a lot
more photo activity for me. I bought myself a D300S for Christmas, I still have
the D50, my daughter keeps it stored for me in her room and keeps it active
too=)

I recall when I first joined this group, everyone was concerned because of the
silence from Pam, it was the first of her Hurricane D50 events. Glad you are
still here Pam and still collecting lenses too I see!

Joy and Love to all
Paul




________________________________
From: andydzl <drewhound@...>
To: Nikon-D50@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, January 1, 2010 1:27:09 PM
Subject: [Nikon-D50] Re: 2010!


Happy New Year Pam .... and every one of you :-)

Andy

> I wanted to send a special New Year's greeting to the D50 list!
>
> 3-1/2 years and 30+ lenses ago I came to this list looking for advice on
> a long zoom lens.  Certain members of this list took me in, counseled,
> teased, coerced, critiqued and encouraged me to a new level of NAS and
> empty wallet syndrome.  The informational and often irreverent
> discussions piqued my curiosity enough that I started thinking outside
> of auto mode, which in turned helped me to a new level of
> understanding.   I'm trying to focus on a sincerely cheeky way to close
> this but my shutter froze - so, I will just say thank you and Happy New
> Year!!
>
> --
> Aloha,
> Pam
>
> See the world through AuntyFrog's eyes
> http://froghousepho to.com/
> http://www.pbase. com/afrogie/
>





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your concern .  It is three above in my part of northern Illinois this morning. 
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Mine as well.  And I should be able to find a referbished one for $299, when I
need it.

Scott in tacoma



--- In Nikon-D50@yahoogroups.com, Clay Swatzell <photoguyinmo@...> wrote:
>
> Glad to hear that.  I'm with you.  I still have my D50 and will keep it
> for a long time.  It was my first dSLR.
>
> Scott in Tacoma wrote:
> >
> >
> > No. This is one list I doubt I will ever leave. And I still have the
> > D50, it is now just the back up body. I am thinking of getting my wife
> > a referbished D50, and a lens for our 20th aniversery, in May.
> >
> > Scott in tAComa
> >
> > --- In Nikon-D50@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Nikon-D50%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > Clay Swatzell <photoguyinmo@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Congrats Scott. I hope this doesn't mean you're going to leave the D50
> > > list....
> > >
> > > Scott in Tacoma wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To Every one on this list.
> > > >
> > > > Happy New Year.
> > > >
> > > > And yesterday Afternoon I bought myself a present. I am now the proud
> > > > owner of a D90. I still have my D50. And while buying the D90, saw
> > > > someone buy a refurbished D50, for $299.
> > > >
> > > > Scott in tacoma
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Clay Swatzell
> > >
> > > http://www.pbase.com/cswatzell/ <http://www.pbase.com/cswatzell/>
> > >
> > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/photoguyinmo/
> > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/photoguyinmo/>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Nikon D50/D80
> > >
> > > No photographer is as good as the simplest camera.
> > > Edward Steichen
> > > <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/e/edwardstei141174.html
> > <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/e/edwardstei141174.html>>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
>
> --
>
> Clay Swatzell
>
> http://www.pbase.com/cswatzell/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/photoguyinmo/
>
>
>
> Nikon D50/D80
>
> No photographer is as good as the simplest camera.
> Edward Steichen
> <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/e/edwardstei141174.html>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Glad to hear that.  I'm with you.  I still have my D50 and will keep it
for a long time.  It was my first dSLR.

Scott in Tacoma wrote:
>
>
> No. This is one list I doubt I will ever leave. And I still have the
> D50, it is now just the back up body. I am thinking of getting my wife
> a referbished D50, and a lens for our 20th aniversery, in May.
>
> Scott in tAComa
>
> --- In Nikon-D50@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Nikon-D50%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Clay Swatzell <photoguyinmo@...> wrote:
> >
> > Congrats Scott. I hope this doesn't mean you're going to leave the D50
> > list....
> >
> > Scott in Tacoma wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > To Every one on this list.
> > >
> > > Happy New Year.
> > >
> > > And yesterday Afternoon I bought myself a present. I am now the proud
> > > owner of a D90. I still have my D50. And while buying the D90, saw
> > > someone buy a refurbished D50, for $299.
> > >
> > > Scott in tacoma
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Clay Swatzell
> >
> > http://www.pbase.com/cswatzell/ <http://www.pbase.com/cswatzell/>
> >
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/photoguyinmo/
> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/photoguyinmo/>
> >
> >
> >
> > Nikon D50/D80
> >
> > No photographer is as good as the simplest camera.
> > Edward Steichen
> > <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/e/edwardstei141174.html
> <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/e/edwardstei141174.html>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>

--

Clay Swatzell

http://www.pbase.com/cswatzell/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/photoguyinmo/



Nikon D50/D80

No photographer is as good as the simplest camera.
Edward Steichen
<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/e/edwardstei141174.html>







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I have not even looked.  I am on a number of generic Nikon DSLR lists, a generic
photo list and this one.  I dont think I need one dedicated to the D90. 
Besides, I can always go to Lakewood and get help, from either you or Robi's
Cameras.

Scott in taComa



--- In Nikon-D50@yahoogroups.com, Edmund F Leavitt <ed.leavitt@...> wrote:
>
> I approve of your choice  :-}
>
> As you have no doubt discovered, there is a D90 group within Yahoo.
> Based upon a few months aboard, my personal observation is that they tend
> to be considerably less technical than this group.
>
> *********************************************************************
> Edmund Leavitt                   Ph:    253 582-5034
> Ham / MARS / Federal       K7EFL / AFA0AH / KPS654
> Lakewood, WA                   USNG: 10TET36292223
> *********************************************************************
>
>
> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 14:16:55 -0000 "Scott in Tacoma"
> <scottgibson@...> writes:
> > To Every one on this list.
> >
> > Happy New Year.
> >
> > And yesterday Afternoon I bought myself a present.  I am now the
> > proud owner of a D90.  I still have my D50.  And while buying the
> > D90, saw someone buy a refurbished D50, for $299.
> >
> > Scott in tacoma
> >
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No.  I think the camera was for his wife.

Scott in tAcoma



--- In Nikon-D50@yahoogroups.com, "LoysonW" <wlmr1001@...> wrote:
>
> Yeah, stick around!  By the way, did you happen to mention to the D50 buyer
there's this yahoo group that talks about D50 cameras - - ?  Always room for
more group conversations!
>
> Loy
>
> --- In Nikon-D50@yahoogroups.com, Clay Swatzell <photoguyinmo@> wrote:
> >
> > Congrats Scott.  I hope this doesn't mean you're going to leave the D50
> > list....
> >
> > Scott in Tacoma wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > To Every one on this list.
> > >
> > > Happy New Year.
> > >
> > > And yesterday Afternoon I bought myself a present. I am now the proud
> > > owner of a D90. I still have my D50. And while buying the D90, saw
> > > someone buy a refurbished D50, for $299.
> > >
> > > Scott in tacoma
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Clay Swatzell
> >
> > http://www.pbase.com/cswatzell/
> >
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/photoguyinmo/
> >
> >
> >
> > Nikon D50/D80
> >
> > No photographer is as good as the simplest camera.
> > Edward Steichen
> > <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/e/edwardstei141174.html>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

I approve of your choice  :-}

As you have no doubt discovered, there is a D90 group within Yahoo.
Based upon a few months aboard, my personal observation is that they tend
to be considerably less technical than this group.

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On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 14:16:55 -0000 "Scott in Tacoma"
<scottgibson@...> writes:
> To Every one on this list.
>
> Happy New Year.
>
> And yesterday Afternoon I bought myself a present.  I am now the
> proud owner of a D90.  I still have my D50.  And while buying the
> D90, saw someone buy a refurbished D50, for $299.
>
> Scott in tacoma
>
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The Refrubished D50, was body only, with a battery.  No Charger.  It had been
sent in for repair, and while it was gone the old owner purchased something knew
instead.

Scott in taComa



--- In Nikon-D50@yahoogroups.com, "LoysonW" <wlmr1001@...> wrote:
>
> Congratulations on the new camera!  I guess that these D50 cameras aren't
following the usual value path other small electronic toys take.  Was that just
the body or did that price include a lens or two?
>
> Loy
>
> --- In Nikon-D50@yahoogroups.com, "Scott in Tacoma" <scottgibson@> wrote:
> >
> > To Every one on this list.
> >
> > Happy New Year.
> >
> > And yesterday Afternoon I bought myself a present.  I am now the proud owner
of a D90.  I still have my D50.  And while buying the D90, saw someone buy a
refurbished D50, for $299.
> >
> > Scott in tacoma
> >
>

No.  This is one list I doubt I will ever leave.  And I still have the D50, it
is now just the back up body.  I am thinking of getting my wife a referbished
D50, and a lens for our 20th aniversery, in May.

Scott in tAComa



--- In Nikon-D50@yahoogroups.com, Clay Swatzell <photoguyinmo@...> wrote:
>
> Congrats Scott.  I hope this doesn't mean you're going to leave the D50
> list....
>
> Scott in Tacoma wrote:
> >
> >
> > To Every one on this list.
> >
> > Happy New Year.
> >
> > And yesterday Afternoon I bought myself a present. I am now the proud
> > owner of a D90. I still have my D50. And while buying the D90, saw
> > someone buy a refurbished D50, for $299.
> >
> > Scott in tacoma
> >
> >
>
> --
>
> Clay Swatzell
>
> http://www.pbase.com/cswatzell/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/photoguyinmo/
>
>
>
> Nikon D50/D80
>
> No photographer is as good as the simplest camera.
> Edward Steichen
> <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/e/edwardstei141174.html>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Yeah, stick around!  By the way, did you happen to mention to the D50 buyer
there's this yahoo group that talks about D50 cameras - - ?  Always room for
more group conversations!

Loy

--- In Nikon-D50@yahoogroups.com, Clay Swatzell <photoguyinmo@...> wrote:
>
> Congrats Scott.  I hope this doesn't mean you're going to leave the D50
> list....
>
> Scott in Tacoma wrote:
> >
> >
> > To Every one on this list.
> >
> > Happy New Year.
> >
> > And yesterday Afternoon I bought myself a present. I am now the proud
> > owner of a D90. I still have my D50. And while buying the D90, saw
> > someone buy a refurbished D50, for $299.
> >
> > Scott in tacoma
> >
> >
>
> --
>
> Clay Swatzell
>
> http://www.pbase.com/cswatzell/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/photoguyinmo/
>
>
>
> Nikon D50/D80
>
> No photographer is as good as the simplest camera.
> Edward Steichen
> <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/e/edwardstei141174.html>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Congratulations on the new camera!  I guess that these D50 cameras aren't
following the usual value path other small electronic toys take.  Was that just
the body or did that price include a lens or two?

Loy

--- In Nikon-D50@yahoogroups.com, "Scott in Tacoma" <scottgibson@...> wrote:
>
> To Every one on this list.
>
> Happy New Year.
>
> And yesterday Afternoon I bought myself a present.  I am now the proud owner
of a D90.  I still have my D50.  And while buying the D90, saw someone buy a
refurbished D50, for $299.
>
> Scott in tacoma
>

Happy New Year back to you and to everyone else also.

BTW Pam, the offer of storing all those lenses in a low humidity environment
still stands.  I wouldn't even charge rent and if you need I could verify their
continued low humidity mold free condition for you by sending you test shots
taken through them!  No need to decide right now, just think about it, I'll be
here!

Loy

--- In Nikon-D50@yahoogroups.com, Pam Haley - Auntyfrog <auntyfrog@...> wrote:
>
> I wanted to send a special New Year's greeting to the D50 list!
>
> 3-1/2 years and 30+ lenses ago I came to this list looking for advice on
> a long zoom lens.  Certain members of this list took me in, counseled,
> teased, coerced, critiqued and encouraged me to a new level of NAS and
> empty wallet syndrome.  The informational and often irreverent
> discussions piqued my curiosity enough that I started thinking outside
> of auto mode, which in turned helped me to a new level of
> understanding.   I'm trying to focus on a sincerely cheeky way to close
> this but my shutter froze - so, I will just say thank you and Happy New
> Year!!
>
> --
> Aloha,
> Pam
>
> See the world through AuntyFrog's eyes
> http://froghousephoto.com/
> http://www.pbase.com/afrogie/
>

In addition to the good advice so far I'll add that the camera only meters off
the green sensors, not the blue or red.  It can severely overexpose orange or
yellow flowers if the image includes dark green shaded flower stems as an
example.  (Learned that the hard way.)

An example from a while back:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7986867@N08/2332581416/

Other photos in the group I took had the flowers maxing out the histogram in my
editing software but showed them as fine in the camera.  No blinky areas in the
playback screen.

Loy

--- In Nikon-D50@yahoogroups.com, "radiorabbi" <radiorabbi@...> wrote:
>
>  In addition to what Edmund and Clayton have shared so far  a  very important
variable is the Metering Mode in use.
>
> Spot metering only uses a tiny area of the frame under the active focus area
to determine exposure ; if the rest of the frame is darker it will be
underexposed ; if the rest of the frame is brighter it will be overexposed.
>
> Matrix metering while it does use 420 segments and is accurrate in many
situations will also fail you in many common situations. Big problem here is it
does not meter the entire frame. It misses stuff at the edges and if an edge
includes something bright   like the sky in a landscape   that area is likely to
be overexposed.
>
> Center weighted  Does meter the entire frame  but places the center area as
most important . I find it temds to overexpose lees than Matrix when shooting
Landscapes.
>
> Mope it helps
>
> Mike
>
>
> --- In Nikon-D50@yahoogroups.com, Edmund F Leavitt <ed.leavitt@> wrote:
> >
> > Folks can argue for weeks on what is or isn't perfect, but let's say for
> > a second that you generally mean not too dark & not too light.   In all
> > the modes except MANUAL the camera will pick what it believes will be the
> > perfect not too light/dark combination.  When it can't it will signal you
> > with the letters Hi or Lo, and in some modes it will pop the built in
> > flash up and fire the flash when you make an exposure.
> >
> > Who gets to choose how the camera arrives at its best guess as to
> > "perfect" depends largely on several factors.  Ones that pop into my mind
> > are: what MODE you selected using that MODE dial (shown on page 6).  That
> > dial lets you choose between the seven "Vari-programs" plus P,S,A, & M
> > modes.
> >
> > If you're using one of the seven Vari-Programs the camera is pretty much
> > making all the exposure decisions for you.  In  P, S, & A you are making
> > more of the choices, and in M you are making most or all of the choices
> > depending on a handful of menu settings.   Furthermore, in the PSAM modes
> > it depends on what part of the scene the light metering system is using
> > to decide (pg 96).
> >
> > Which modes do you use?
> >
> > *********************************************************************
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> > Ham / MARS / Federal       K7EFL / AFA0AH / KPS654
> > Lakewood, WA                   USNG: 10TET36292223
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> >
> >
> > On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:47:05 -0600 "Leslie" <leslie0920@>
> > writes:
> > > I have a silly question that I feel sure I should know. But
> > > don't...and can't find anything in the manual on it either, unless I
> > > am looking for the wrong thing. But where is it on my D50 that tells
> > > me the picture I am about to take is the correct exposure or
> > > "perfect picture" as some like to call it? I'm taking an online
> > > class on photography and they keep saying to check for correct
> > > exposure and I'm not sure how to do that until AFTER it is taken.
> > > lol
> > >
> > > Leslie
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
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> >
>

Happy New Year Pam .... and every one of you :-)

Andy


> I wanted to send a special New Year's greeting to the D50 list!
>
> 3-1/2 years and 30+ lenses ago I came to this list looking for advice on
> a long zoom lens.  Certain members of this list took me in, counseled,
> teased, coerced, critiqued and encouraged me to a new level of NAS and
> empty wallet syndrome.  The informational and often irreverent
> discussions piqued my curiosity enough that I started thinking outside
> of auto mode, which in turned helped me to a new level of
> understanding.   I'm trying to focus on a sincerely cheeky way to close
> this but my shutter froze - so, I will just say thank you and Happy New
> Year!!
>
> --
> Aloha,
> Pam
>
> See the world through AuntyFrog's eyes
> http://froghousephoto.com/
> http://www.pbase.com/afrogie/
>

Congratulations Scott :-)

Andy


> To Every one on this list.
>
> Happy New Year.
>
> And yesterday Afternoon I bought myself a present.  I am now the proud owner
of a D90.  I still have my D50.  And while buying the D90, saw someone buy a
refurbished D50, for $299.
>
> Scott in tacoma
>

Congrats Scott.  I hope this doesn't mean you're going to leave the D50
list....

Scott in Tacoma wrote:
>
>
> To Every one on this list.
>
> Happy New Year.
>
> And yesterday Afternoon I bought myself a present. I am now the proud
> owner of a D90. I still have my D50. And while buying the D90, saw
> someone buy a refurbished D50, for $299.
>
> Scott in tacoma
>
>

--

Clay Swatzell

http://www.pbase.com/cswatzell/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/photoguyinmo/



Nikon D50/D80

No photographer is as good as the simplest camera.
Edward Steichen
<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/e/edwardstei141174.html>







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Thirty + lenses so far?  Wow! The phrase "Lens of a Month Club" comes to
mind.

Happy New Year.  Happy New Decade for that matter.

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Ham / MARS / Federal       K7EFL / AFA0AH / KPS654
Lakewood, WA                   USNG: 10TET36292223
*********************************************************************

On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:28:05 -1000 Pam Haley - Auntyfrog
<auntyfrog@...> writes:
> I wanted to send a special New Year's greeting to the D50 list!
>
> 3-1/2 years and 30+ lenses ago I came to this list looking for
> advice on
> a long zoom lens.  <snip>



> Aloha,
> Pam
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To Every one on this list.

Happy New Year.

And yesterday Afternoon I bought myself a present.  I am now the proud owner of
a D90.  I still have my D50.  And while buying the D90, saw someone buy a
refurbished D50, for $299.

Scott in tacoma