I think this says it all.
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Brian:
I had hoped to stay out of the fray on this, but I see that it is not going to be possible. I will not enter into a long discussion about this matter but will make a simple statement and let it go at that.
The Hurrian project was challenging when I was working on it with Arnaud, but, as time has passed and I have had a chance to think more on these issues, I have changed my mind. I no longer support any of the theories advanced or conclusions drawn in that work.
Allan
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I would very much like to get your reaction to my latest posting on the Nostratic list.
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I have just read, with great interest, the manuscript by Arnaud Fournet and Allan
Bomhard entitled The Indo-European
Elements in Hurrian. It is available
as a PDF download from the Russian Nostratic website. For some reason (never satisfactorily
explained), the work deals only with Hurrian, mostly ignoring the closely
related Urartian. Also not discussed is
the alternative theory put forth by Diakonoff and Starostin that sees
Hurro-Urartian as a Northeast Caucasian language. These omissions are disturbing. I would like to offer a few comments about
this work.
My overall impression is that the work is a piece of
inferior scholarship, and that is being generous. It is clear from the work that two authors
were involved, and it is not too difficult to figure out who did what. The chapter dealing with phonology, writing
systems, and texts could only have been written by Fournet. This is evident from the writing style and
English usage as well as from the ideas expressed. The ideas about Hurrian phonology are so far
removed from what has come to be the accepted views (see Speiser 1941, Wegner
2007, and Wilhelm 2004a cited in the references at the end of the work for
details) that they can only be described as “crackpot”. Highly problematic interpretations are put
forth as though they were standard points of view, without a single shred of
credible evidence to back them up. It may
be likened in scholarship to the kind of term paper one receives from
undergraduate students who have just come off a weekend of heavy partying,
drinking, and drugging.
The three chapters dealing with morphology do, in fact,
appear to be a joint effort. They are
much more in agreement with established views (see again, the works cited above
for details about Hurrian), especially on the Indo-European side. The attempt to compare Hurrian morphology
with that of Proto-Indo-European does contain some interesting ideas. However, what is disturbing is the fact that
counter-evidence is totally ignored, as is the evidence marshaled by Diakonoff
and Starostin to support their alternative theory.
The Hurrian vocabulary is based mostly on the work of
Laroche, with some additions taken from other sources. As written, it can pass muster.
The chapter on the comparison of the lexicons of Hurrian and
Indo-European could only have been prepared by Bomhard, since it is similar to
other work he has authored. This chapter
has to be judged substandard compared to other work that Bomhard has produced. It shows that he has an excellent
understanding of the Indo-European data but not a good handle on the
Hurrian. At best, the data examined in
this chapter points to possible contact between Hurrian and one or more
Indo-European languages. Moreover, when when digs deeply into the rest of the work, one can see that Bomhard does not use Fournet's theories regarding Hurrian phonology in presenting the Hurrian lexical data. Does this point to disagreement between the two authors? Was a subtle rejection of Fournet's theories built into the work itself?
Hurrian is unambiguously NOT an Indo-European daughter
language. Nor can we say, on the basis
of this work, that Hurrian and Indo-European are genetically related in any way,
shape, or form.
For more information, see the devastating review of this
work by Alexei Kassian in Journal of
Language Relationship, issue 4 (2010), pp. 199-206. The rebuttal (prepared mostly, it seems, by
Fournet), which appeared in the next issue of the same journal, is more of a “rant”
than a genuine rebuttal.