Hi Joe and all,

If the skies clear up tomorrow night, how about heading out to Bootland after
the gabfest is done?  We'd have plenty time to drive there, setup as the moonset
is not
till 1:33am.  That will give us at least 2 hours of dark skies.  It will be
cooler and
less problem for the mosquitoes.

I'll keep checking the forecast.

- Pierre

I'm in!

Cheers,

Matt

--- In OAOG@yahoogroups.com, "meteorshowersca" <dob14.5@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Joe and all,
>
> If the skies clear up tomorrow night, how about heading out to
Bootland after
> the gabfest is done?  We'd have plenty time to drive there, setup
as the moonset is not
> till 1:33am.  That will give us at least 2 hours of dark skies.  It
will be cooler and
> less problem for the mosquitoes.
>
> I'll keep checking the forecast.
>
> - Pierre
>

Hi Pierre,

If the weather is good, I am game for Bootland farm Friday night. We could
do some planetary observing before the moon sets.

I am still trying to make up for last year.

How have your lightning pictures turned out? They looked great on your
camera screen. Next time, I'll give it a try.

Joe



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Hi Joe,

The lightning shots turned out great!  I was quite pleased with the result, I'll
post
some tonight.

I guess that astronomy and weather goes along together just fine.... cause
we're always studying the weather to find out if the sky will clear :0)
Severe weather is fun too (at least it is for me)!  But if anyone tries a little
stormchasing, please be real careful out there!!  (Before I went out the other
night, I
made sure that Boundary road was to be on the edge of the storm - not in the
middle of it!  Even then, I got a little nervous to leave the Portaball all
setup in an open field).

- Porta Pete



--- In OAOG@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Silverman" <joe1silverman@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Pierre,
>
> If the weather is good, I am game for Bootland farm Friday night. We could
> do some planetary observing before the moon sets.
>
> I am still trying to make up for last year.
>
> How have your lightning pictures turned out? They looked great on your
> camera screen. Next time, I'll give it a try.
>
> Joe

I agree with you Pierre. I love a good storm. I was out last night with my video
camera when the storm came by Embrun. I got 30 mins of really intense lightning.
I tried with my digital camera to get some lightning shots but I I'm not sure
what settings to use. At one point the lightning must have came pretty close to
the house because the power went out for a second?? Does anybody know if
possible it hit close when the power goes out like that really quick and comes
back on???

   Chris (mattressking)

meteorshowersca <dob14.5@...> wrote:
   Hi Joe,

The lightning shots turned out great! I was quite pleased with the result, I'll
post
some tonight.

I guess that astronomy and weather goes along together just fine.... cause
we're always studying the weather to find out if the sky will clear :0)
Severe weather is fun too (at least it is for me)! But if anyone tries a little
stormchasing, please be real careful out there!! (Before I went out the other
night, I
made sure that Boundary road was to be on the edge of the storm - not in the
middle of it! Even then, I got a little nervous to leave the Portaball all
setup in an open field).

- Porta Pete



--- In OAOG@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Silverman" wrote:
>
> Hi Pierre,
>
> If the weather is good, I am game for Bootland farm Friday night. We could
> do some planetary observing before the moon sets.
>
> I am still trying to make up for last year.
>
> How have your lightning pictures turned out? They looked great on your
> camera screen. Next time, I'll give it a try.
>
> Joe








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Hi Chris,

It probably hit quite close... The way to know is the delay between the
lightning and
thunder.  If the clap of thunder was near-simultaneous when you saw the bolt,
then I would say it was definitely too close for comfort!!!

- Pierre


--- In OAOG@yahoogroups.com, Chris Cloutier <mattressking@...> wrote:
>
> I agree with you Pierre. I love a good storm. I was out last night with my
video camera
when the storm came by Embrun. I got 30 mins of really intense lightning. I
tried with my
digital camera to get some lightning shots but I I'm not sure what settings to
use. At one
point the lightning must have came pretty close to the house because the power
went out
for a second?? Does anybody know if possible it hit close when the power goes
out like
that really quick and comes back on???
>
>   Chris (mattressking)

Does anybody know if possible it hit close when the power goes out
like that really quick and comes back on???


I just did a quick google search and came up with the following:

"Sound travels through air at "the speed of sound." Officially, the
speed of sound is 331.3 meters per second (1,087 feet per second) in
dry air at 0 degrees Celsius (32 degrees Fahrenheit). At a
temperature like 28 degrees C (82 degrees F), the speed is 346 meters
per second.

As you can see, the speed of sound changes depending on the
temperature and the humidity; but if you want a round number, then
something like 350 meters per second and 1,200 feet per second are
reasonable numbers to use. So sound travels 1 kilometer in roughly 3
seconds and 1 mile in roughly 5 seconds.

When you see the flash of a lightning bolt, you can start counting
seconds and then divide to see how far away the lightning struck. If
it takes 10 seconds for the thunder to roll in, the lightning struck
about 2 miles or 3 kilometers away. "


So, if you hear the thunder 3 seconds or less after the bolt.....you
might consider seeking shelter!! ;-)

Thanks for the info Jamie,

I keep forgetting to add that vital information!  I own a Sky-Watcher
114mm Reflector.

another question about EPs.  I saw a meade barlow and from what I
heard this is a good make/brand.  my question is this:  does it make
much sence to have a good barlow with a not so good EP and vice
versa, or should you have roughly the same quality EP and barlow?

Would a good barlow make your EPs better (if used together of course)
or is everything depended on the EP?

Thanks,

Chris


--- In OAOG@yahoogroups.com, "Simms, Jamie \(xwave\)"
<jamie.simms@...> wrote:
>
> Correction. I said 1.5 inches and 2 inches for the barrel sizes. I
meant
> 1.25 inches and 2 inches. As for being able to fit one or the other
2"
> focusers usually come with 1.25" adapters. You may be able to find
an
> adapter to fit a 2" eyepiece into a 1.25" focuser. I can't see why
> anyone would want to do that but I'm sure there is something out
there
> if you were to look hard enough.  On the question of being able to
> change the focuser I not sure what the answer would be. I imagine
you
> could if a different focuser was available for your particular
scope.
> but I'll leave that to some of the more qualified observers who have
> played with this before to answer. BTW what scope are you using? It
> might give us a better idea of what avenues you have available.
>
>
> Clear Skies
>
> Jamie S.
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: OAOG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OAOG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of
> mad_cat_z
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 2:36 PM
> To: OAOG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [OAOG] Re: question about eyepieces
>
>
> WOW, thanks for all the info everyone has given so far.
>
> Am I right in saying that as of right now I would only be able to
fit
> one or the other barrel widths in my telescope, probably the 1.5?
>
> Can you easily change the focuser on telescopes in order to fit the
> different size barrels?
>
> Thnaks,
> Chris
>
>
> --- In OAOG@yahoogroups.com, "Simms, Jamie \(xwave\)"
> <jamie.simms@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> >   Eyepieces are as improtant as your telescope, if not more
> important
> > according to some folks. Eyepieces generally come in 2 barrel
> widths,
> > 1.5 inches and 2 inches. By barrell width I mean the size of the
> focuser
> > coming out of the telescope where your eyepieces go. The mm
> measurements
> > have to do with magnification. There's some nifty spreadsheets
under
> > files, observing aids on the yahoo group site to give you exactly
> the
> > magnification for your scope with your eyepieces. All you need to
> know
> > is the focal length of your scope,  it's f-ratio and the mm of any
> > potential eyepieces. I have a full set of eyepieces including a
> 32mm, 25
> > mm, 15mm, 10mm, 9mm, 6mm, and a 4mm. I have never used the 6, 4
or
> the
> > 9. Given my scope is 1800mm focal length and f12 a 10 mm eyepiece
> will
> > give me 180X magnification. Sky conditions will limit you to this
> most
> > of the times. On the odd occasion however you may be able to turn
> it up
> > abit. However the golden rule of magnification is anything above
50X
> > magnification per inch of aperature is too much. I have also
heard
> that
> > an eyepiece that has a mm rating of twice the f-ratio will give
the
> best
> > views. Long eye relief eyepieces are nicer as you are not looking
> > through a tiny spot. The longer the eye relief the farther your
eye
> can
> > be from the eyepiece and still take in the full view. These are
> usually
> > priced higher as the mm go down.
> >
> >   Hope this helps
> >
> > Jamie S.
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
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Behalf
> Of
> > mad_cat_z
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 11:06 AM
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> > Subject: [OAOG] question about eyepieces
> >
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone could explain a little about
eyepieces?
> I
> > was told that a good set of eyepieces should be the first set of
> > accessories I get for my new telescope.  I'm just not certain
about
> > some of the jargon regarding eyepieces.  Now's where I ask some
> > obvious questions that maybe I should already know.
> >
> > What's the difference between a regular eyepieces and a long eye
> > relief eyepiece?  Which is better or are they two completely
> > difference beasts?  What's the difference between sizes, I've
heard
> > talk about 1.5 or 2 inch eyepieces as well as a huge array of mm
> > sizes.  I've seen straight and angled eyepieces, is one better
than
> > the other?  Is there a brand name I should be looking out for?
> >
> > I know I should be waiting until I get a book on astronomy, which
> > would probably explain all of this, but the wife has forbid me to
> do
> > so until the birthday passes as I might be getting one on said
> day.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Hi Chris,

Just thought I'd add a few comments. In general it's hard to go too
wrong when choosing EPs when starting out. Used astro items retain a
fair value if you decide to sell them. Also amateur astronomers
generally take good care of their stuff so I wouldn't be afraid of
buying used EPs etc either.

Also the difference between "good" EPs and others is often very
subtle. Unless you've been observing a long time you may not notice
a lot of difference. You may be very happy with "cheap" EPs and I
can tell you there are a lot of low cost items EPs etc of very good
quality coming out of Taiwan/China. In fact Meade, Celestron, etc
outsource most of their manufacturing these days and it's
practically all getting made there anyway. If I were you, I'd stick
with the EPs which came with your scope which will likely be pretty
good basic plossl types anyway. But as you get out with the group
learn about the different types and maybe borrow some from other
members. If you try an EP you really like, and the price is right by
all means buy it! But use the ones you have and get a little
experience so you can tell whether upgrading will be worth it or not.

A barlow is often useful and an inexpensive way of doubling your EP
collection. Most basic ones are 2x magnification and have two
elements. It might be worthwhile buying a three element barlow and
getting one which is at least claiming to be "multi-coated" or
better yet "fully multi-coated". This will be more useful to you if
you decide to upgrade EPs later and would probably retain it's value
a bit better and be easier to sell. You asked about a Meade barlow.
It's not enough to know that it's a Meade. They make a lot of
excellent stuff but also have some pretty cheap junk for beginner
scopes. You need to know if it's 2 or 3 element and whether it's
multicoated or not.

You might even consider buying instead of a 2x barlow a 1.6x barlow
for your scope. These are a little harder to find though. I'm
guessing you have a 10mm and maybe 25mm EPs now. If you get a 2x
barlow, the 10mm becomes a 5mm which is probably too much power for
your scope most of the time. Also the 25mm becomes a 12.5 mm which
is pretty close to the 10mm you already have. If you get a 1.6x
barlow the 10mm becomes more like a 7mm and the 25 mm more like an
16mm which will give you a better selection in magnifications.

Greg
--- In OAOG@yahoogroups.com, "mad_cat_z" <chris.conrod@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info Jamie,
>
> I keep forgetting to add that vital information!  I own a Sky-
Watcher
> 114mm Reflector.
>
> another question about EPs.  I saw a meade barlow and from what I
> heard this is a good make/brand.  my question is this:  does it
make
> much sence to have a good barlow with a not so good EP and vice
> versa, or should you have roughly the same quality EP and barlow?
>
> Would a good barlow make your EPs better (if used together of
course)
> or is everything depended on the EP?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris
>
>
> --- In OAOG@yahoogroups.com, "Simms, Jamie \(xwave\)"
> <jamie.simms@> wrote:
> >
> > Correction. I said 1.5 inches and 2 inches for the barrel sizes.
I
> meant
> > 1.25 inches and 2 inches. As for being able to fit one or the
other
> 2"
> > focusers usually come with 1.25" adapters. You may be able to
find
> an
> > adapter to fit a 2" eyepiece into a 1.25" focuser. I can't see
why
> > anyone would want to do that but I'm sure there is something out
> there
> > if you were to look hard enough.  On the question of being able
to
> > change the focuser I not sure what the answer would be. I
imagine
> you
> > could if a different focuser was available for your particular
> scope.
> > but I'll leave that to some of the more qualified observers who
have
> > played with this before to answer. BTW what scope are you using?
It
> > might give us a better idea of what avenues you have available.
> >
> >
> > Clear Skies
> >
> > Jamie S.
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: OAOG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OAOG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of
> > mad_cat_z
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 2:36 PM
> > To: OAOG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [OAOG] Re: question about eyepieces
> >
> >
> > WOW, thanks for all the info everyone has given so far.
> >
> > Am I right in saying that as of right now I would only be able
to
> fit
> > one or the other barrel widths in my telescope, probably the
1.5?
> >
> > Can you easily change the focuser on telescopes in order to fit
the
> > different size barrels?
> >
> > Thnaks,
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > --- In OAOG@yahoogroups.com, "Simms, Jamie \(xwave\)"
> > <jamie.simms@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Chris,
> > >
> > >   Eyepieces are as improtant as your telescope, if not more
> > important
> > > according to some folks. Eyepieces generally come in 2 barrel
> > widths,
> > > 1.5 inches and 2 inches. By barrell width I mean the size of
the
> > focuser
> > > coming out of the telescope where your eyepieces go. The mm
> > measurements
> > > have to do with magnification. There's some nifty spreadsheets
> under
> > > files, observing aids on the yahoo group site to give you
exactly
> > the
> > > magnification for your scope with your eyepieces. All you need
to
> > know
> > > is the focal length of your scope,  it's f-ratio and the mm of
any
> > > potential eyepieces. I have a full set of eyepieces including
a
> > 32mm, 25
> > > mm, 15mm, 10mm, 9mm, 6mm, and a 4mm. I have never used the 6,
4
> or
> > the
> > > 9. Given my scope is 1800mm focal length and f12 a 10 mm
eyepiece
> > will
> > > give me 180X magnification. Sky conditions will limit you to
this
> > most
> > > of the times. On the odd occasion however you may be able to
turn
> > it up
> > > abit. However the golden rule of magnification is anything
above
> 50X
> > > magnification per inch of aperature is too much. I have also
> heard
> > that
> > > an eyepiece that has a mm rating of twice the f-ratio will
give
> the
> > best
> > > views. Long eye relief eyepieces are nicer as you are not
looking
> > > through a tiny spot. The longer the eye relief the farther
your
> eye
> > can
> > > be from the eyepiece and still take in the full view. These
are
> > usually
> > > priced higher as the mm go down.
> > >
> > >   Hope this helps
> > >
> > > Jamie S.
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From: OAOG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OAOG@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of
> > > mad_cat_z
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 11:06 AM
> > > To: OAOG@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [OAOG] question about eyepieces
> > >
> > >
> > > I was wondering if anyone could explain a little about
> eyepieces?
> > I
> > > was told that a good set of eyepieces should be the first set
of
> > > accessories I get for my new telescope.  I'm just not certain
> about
> > > some of the jargon regarding eyepieces.  Now's where I ask
some
> > > obvious questions that maybe I should already know.
> > >
> > > What's the difference between a regular eyepieces and a long
eye
> > > relief eyepiece?  Which is better or are they two completely
> > > difference beasts?  What's the difference between sizes, I've
> heard
> > > talk about 1.5 or 2 inch eyepieces as well as a huge array of
mm
> > > sizes.  I've seen straight and angled eyepieces, is one better
> than
> > > the other?  Is there a brand name I should be looking out
for?
> > >
> > > I know I should be waiting until I get a book on astronomy,
which
> > > would probably explain all of this, but the wife has forbid me
to
> > do
> > > so until the birthday passes as I might be getting one on said
> > day.
> > >
> > > Thanks again,
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
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Hello Chris,

Greg had some excellent points.  Just keep in mind; you can never go
wrong with buying good quality optical components; they keep their
resale value.

Every telescope simply collects light and then focuses it down and
presents it to your eye (or for astrophotography, the
camera/imager).  The various optical components that the light passes
through or is reflected off of before the image gets to your eye such
as lenses, mirrors, barlows, field flatteners, focal reducers and
eyepieces etc. simply shape and size the light image for
presentation.

Due to the fact that the light source we are looking at is so far
away and so faint, the raw light that enters the telescope is
precious.  Good quality optical elements will preserve that precious
light for presentation and poor quality optical elements will waste
the precious light by scattering it around before it gets to your
eye.  A good quality barlow will not make an poor quality eyepiece
better; however it will present a better view compared to using a
poor quality barlow.

Eyepieces are an important component of the telescope optical path;
they are chosen by the observer and the choices are vast.  The tricky
bit is for the observer to choose the best ones that suit the
telescope and observer and then get them at the best price possible
(not a small feat).

For a novice on a budget, it is best to purchase a couple of decent
solid performers like the Plössl eyepieces and a good quality 2x
barlow; this will get you going.  When your out with us observing,
check out the views through other telescopes and see what eyepieces
and other accessories people are using; you will be the ultimate
judge on what is best for you, your telescope and your budget.
Getting there is all part of the fun and education; with OAOG, you
make a bunch of friends on the way.

Cheers, Ken


--- In OAOG@yahoogroups.com, "mad_cat_z" <chris.conrod@...> wrote:

Thanks for the info Jamie,

I keep forgetting to add that vital information!  I own a Sky-Watcher
114mm Reflector.

another question about EPs.  I saw a meade barlow and from what I
heard this is a good make/brand.  my question is this:  does it make
much sence to have a good barlow with a not so good EP and vice
versa, or should you have roughly the same quality EP and barlow?

Would a good barlow make your EPs better (if used together of course)
or is everything depended on the EP?

Thanks,

Chris

Anyone heading to boundary road tonight?

The subject says it all. Email me offline or bring it along to the
gabfest tomorrow or to the sidewalk on saturday (weather permitting).

Greg

Hi Chris,

I'm still tending my wounds (skeeter bites) after my short visit there
on Tuesday night. If you haven't given blood lately and have some
nuclear powered repellent the satellite picture is looking better than
the CSC says. Myself, I'm staying in tonight and getting ready for
tomorrow and Saturday. Later.

Greg

--- In OAOG@yahoogroups.com, "couzineau" <coozno@...> wrote:

>
> Anyone heading to boundary road tonight?
>

--- In OAOG@yahoogroups.com, "couzineau" <coozno@...> wrote:
>
> Anyone heading to boundary road tonight?
>

I'd consider it, for a few hours at best ( I have to work tomorrow).
I don't have the combo for the gate, mind you.

Cheers,

Matt

--- In OAOG@yahoogroups.com, "greg_baggs" <gbaggs65@...> wrote:
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> Hi Chris,
>
> I'm still tending my wounds (skeeter bites) after my short visit there
> on Tuesday night. If you haven't given blood lately and have some
> nuclear powered repellent the satellite picture is looking better than
> the CSC says. Myself, I'm staying in tonight and getting ready for
> tomorrow and Saturday. Later.
>
> Greg
>
> --- In OAOG@yahoogroups.com, "couzineau" <coozno@> wrote:
>
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> > Anyone heading to boundary road tonight?
> >
>

I know what you mean Greg, in late April I managed to get a good night
out visiting my parents near Cornwall. They live in the country and
have a nice dark sky. Unfortunately the dark sky comes with some
mutant mosquitos, I swear their on roids. Damn bite marks stayed with
me for almost a month.

Anyway I was hoping to configure the PEC on my mount but it looks like
it might have to wait till the weekend from the looks of it.

If anyone has a spare illuminated reticle for sale
please let me know.

Chris

On Thursday 01 June 2006 9:40 am, meteorshowersca wrote:
> Hi Joe and all,
>
> If the skies clear up tomorrow night, how about heading out to Bootland
> after the gabfest is done?  We'd have plenty time to drive there, setup as
> the moonset is not till 1:33am.  That will give us at least 2 hours of dark
> skies.  It will be cooler and less problem for the mosquitoes.
>
> I'll keep checking the forecast.
>
> - Pierre

Should the weather be suitable I'm up for this.


--
bruce

All,

             This is way cool!!

http://www.astronomy.com/asy/default.aspx?c=ga&id=99&aid=4225


             Rock M.

That certainly is way cool, Rock to have your picture of
daytime M3 as Astronomy Magazine's Picture of the Day.
Congrats!
MAry


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Rock is on the map again - atta go Rock.



-----Original Message-----
From: OAOG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OAOG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Rock Mallin
Sent: June 1, 2006 11:03 PM
To: OAOG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [OAOG] Astronomy Magazine!



All,

             This is way cool!!

http://www.astronomy.com/asy/default.aspx?c=ga
<http://www.astronomy.com/asy/default.aspx?c=ga&id=99&aid=4225>
&id=99&aid=4225


             Rock M.



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Congrats Rock!  Way cool, indeed to have your M3 shot on Astronomy's
Gallery!

- Pierre



On 1-Jun-06, at 11:02 PM, Rock Mallin wrote:

> All,
>
>             This is way cool!!
>
> http://www.astronomy.com/asy/default.aspx?c=ga&id=99&aid=4225
>
>
>             Rock M.

Congratulations Rock!

The MallincCam is getting so much well-earned recognition that you'll never
have any free time.

Joe



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Rock, you have to advertise this as "astronomy without sleep deprivation" or
"astronomy with sun tanning".



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From: OAOG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OAOG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rock
Mallin
Sent: 01 June 2006 23:03
To: OAOG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [OAOG] Astronomy Magazine!



All,

             This is way cool!!

http://www.astronomy.com/asy/default.aspx?c=ga
<http://www.astronomy.com/asy/default.aspx?c=ga&id=99&aid=4225>
&id=99&aid=4225


             Rock M.



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I walked the dog at around 10 and noticed that the sky was pretty good. The
transparency was poor but the seeing was a bit above average. There was only
a slight twinkling of the stars. In less than 12 minutes, I set up my 85mm,
f7 refractor and put up a table in my driveway. It was the only place I
could get a clear view of the moon and Jupiter.
Ken added a bar to a Telrad base that I had purchased so that I could use
the Telrad on my refractor and Mak. The setup worked very well and was a big
improvement to the Starbeam finder that was originally installed on my
refractor. Thanks Ken.
I tested my upgraded binoviewers with the amplifier/corrector, with a 2x
Barlow, with the amplifier/corrector in the 2x Barlow and with the
amplifier/corrector in a 3x Barlow. It boosted the power of my 32mm eyepiece
pairs 2x, 3.2x, 5x, and 7.2x so that my eyepiece pairs acted as if they were
16mm, 10mm, 6.4mm, and 4.4mm. My focuser had enough range to handle each
configuration. I do not think that I will have to purchase another pair of
eyepieces. The power range on my refractor was 38x to 136x.
I observed the moon. The views were breathing taking. Using both eyes did
render the view more three dimensional. I could sense the depth of the
creators and the height of the mountains. I also could sense the curvature
of the moon. Its edges appeared to curve away.
I then went to Jupiter. The four moons appeared to float in space and be at
different distances. The perspective was there. The actual view of Jupiter
was good, but I have seen better in my scope. Again a spectacular view!
After about one observing, I quit.
I was so enthralled with my three dimensional views that I need a Scotch to
settle down.
I am sure that I will be doing more observing from my home over the summer.
Joe

Hi all,

Just checked the latest weather and doesn't look like the skies will clear until
Monday evening at the earliest.

Drats... I was looking forward to some dark skies late at night.
Better luck next time...

See you tonight at the gabfest.

- Pierre

Too bad, see you at the gabfest.

Cheers,

Matt

--- In OAOG@yahoogroups.com, "meteorshowersca" <dob14.5@...> wrote:
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> Hi all,
>
> Just checked the latest weather and doesn't look like the skies
will clear until
> Monday evening at the earliest.
>
> Drats... I was looking forward to some dark skies late at night.
> Better luck next time...
>
> See you tonight at the gabfest.
>
> - Pierre
>

shoot, I was looking forward to coming out tonight to bootland.  I
even got permission, which is rare for Fridays.

--
bruce

On 6/2/06, Matt Weeks <weeksmj@...> wrote:
> Too bad, see you at the gabfest.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matt
>
> --- In OAOG@yahoogroups.com, "meteorshowersca" <dob14.5@...> wrote:
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Hi All,



Sheila and I have been busy for a while and not always been able to attend
the get-together's regularly. That may have just gotten worse or better with
a priority adjustment. :-)



Sheila gave birth to our daughter Holly Jean Ross on Monday at 10:35am.
Despite being 11 days late, she weighed in at a dainty 7 pounds 3 ounces.



Some pictures are available here:

http://aross.dyndns.org/Pictures/Holly_pictures/



For any who might be interested, I've decided to give up my ETX125 so it is
posted in the fore sale section of the yahoogroup. It should be a really
good price for a super-portable scope with lots of features. Don't fret for
me, I have an 8" LXR200 that I'll be picking up shortly. sorry for the
clouds.



Andrew





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Howdy,

I've just posted my Coronado PST for sale.  585$ gets you a premium
Coronado PST h-Alpha telescope. Does NOT come with the Pelican carry
case, just the standard box.

It's got to go to make way for another astro toy...stay tuned for more
details.

Jean D.