Hi

I just wanted to inform peeps in this group about this blogzine:
http://www.chasingthestorm.com
I thought this is relevant to the members of this forum- as the topics
covered are Internet, business, start up, entrepreneurship and
basically technical solutions that aid marketing.
There are some issues raised as well that many of the members should
find interesting to contribute to, like the Americanization of the
Internet.

Cheers
SP

--- In ONEKOInternetEntrepreneurs@yahoogroups.com, Hong Kartalim
<fungilein@...> wrote:

Member and message removed for spamming.

mod_dawn>

I recently beta launched my own company, Behind the Burner
(www.behindtheburner.com) and would love your feedback on the site. The
home page is open and gives people a sense of what we do. If you want
to click on other pages, you need to sign up but it is FREE, SECURE and
QUICK.

I'd eager to hear what people think of the UI, design, navigation, etc.

THANK YOU for your help!

Divya Gugnani

Hey Rick;

Very ambitious site but intriguing.

First off the narrator to your videos is a capable voice but not
enticing enough there is no excitement about what he's trying to
convey. The rhythm is monotone and dull at times.

Also I could not find anywhere the cost of your products! I want to
know before I go into that area of potentially using the product how
much it might cost me. I am always leary of company's that want my
info before they give me details. What are they afraid of?

I am not sure but I have the feeling the site is too cluttered...to
much all at once. But I must say it got me interested enough to want
to know how much it would set me back and if I could add this cost to
my already heavy overhead.

Hope I made some sense here to help! Congratulations though on a very
tough subject for sales at large. I also thought the color scheme was
very nice and easy for the eyes. Navigation was simple and easy, kudos!

Richard Yniguez

PS: I have several friends in sales and I will forward your e-mail to
them.


--- In ONEKOInternetEntrepreneurs@yahoogroups.com, "Rick"
<rdream13@...> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone!
>
> We just finished our site and we are looking for some feedback.  We
> have a product that, we believe, will revolutionize call center's by
> making them more efficient and productive.  We think the site looks
> great, but we also developed it, and could really use feedback from a
> different perspective.  The link is ClickToSell.net
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick
>

Hello everyone!

We just finished our site and we are looking for some feedback.  We
have a product that, we believe, will revolutionize call center's by
making them more efficient and productive.  We think the site looks
great, but we also developed it, and could really use feedback from a
different perspective.  The link is ClickToSell.net

Thanks,

Rick

Among others, the story as told by a practicing Pharmacologist; good
opportunity to start a home or part time business and; at the same
time staying healthy through using the product :

http://www.zija-europe.com/resources/zijatv.html

Just thought I'd pass this along to any entrepreneurs that are eligible.

http://www.microsoft.com/bizspark/

To be eligible for BizSpark, all of the following must be true. Your
Startup:
Is in the business of software development
Is privately held,
Has been in business for less than 3 years, and
Has less than US $1 million in annual revenue.

Best,

Divya Gugnani
CEO of Behind the Burner
www.behindtheburner.com

Hey Darrel,

About your website, first off I'm glad when I looked at the source code there was a good effort put forth on SEO, a lot of web pages really lack that. Two things jumped out at me though.

First is the font size is too small, they recommend no smaller then 10 pt, and yours is 7.5 pt

Second is there is a typo in your description meta tag "An website focusing on backup..."should be, A website focusing on backup...

Matt Morgan

VAU4U

Virtual Assistant Unlimited For You
Less Stress and More Success :)

In a message dated 11/14/2008 12:03:22 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, kandle@... writes:

Darrell,
I asked for help with logistics and got none.  I can't imagine that others don't want to or haven't done things to improve their ordering and return processes.  Every additional second spent processing an order is a loss of profit and returns are even more important.  I would like to know what guidelines there are when dealing with these things.  Are there standards? I think things vary from state to state so is there a website that deals with all this.

Anyway my new rebuilt website is almost completed.  I have it up and running.   I would love some feedback.  I am fixing the topnav menu as it is crooked and sloppy looking.  Any other suggestions  are welcome.  I know it's still pretty basic but over the past month or so I have been constantly improving the interface and look.  I've been on a tight budget since my designer had to be let go.  I have had to fix her messes up.  I still have to redo the help files I had on my old site that I was using for traffic.  The site is:
http://www.backtheFup.com

As far as social networking goes... I feel like it's still in early stages.  Digg is powerful for getting new traffic and Twitter is powerful for getting a message out and to stay in front of people.  RSS is also an interesting way of staying in front of people, if you blog, but it isn't widely accepted yet among the non-tech savvy.  A lot of people don't understand Twitter either.
But my search terms are $1.50 and up, per click, from Google so I hope social networking is enough to cause my rise in Google search results.  To me it all ties back to what Google rewards for real long term benefit.  You can use social networking to raise the credibility of your website in Googles eyes and that is still the best way to succeed online.  That should be the end goal, to rank high in Google, organically.  It could all depend on what you are selling or promoting though.  It helps to know your target market and which sites they visit. Here is an interesting article on that.
http://www.smmguru.com/2008/10/08/top-10-social-bookmarking-sites-complete-with-stats

Anyway I think the spammers scared some of the members away.  That is how it goes.  Social networking at it's best.

Kevin
http://KAndleConsulting.com
http://selfseo.kandle.us

On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 19:38 -0500, Darrell Poe wrote:

This was once an active and energetic group of individuals all eager to lend a hand to one another and share wisdom - now it seems that all we see are spammers posting.

Is there no one out there that has a legitimate question to ask or topic to bring up?

I personally am not an entrepreneur, but I have the entrepreneurial spirit. I work for a company of over 1000 employees in a consulting role to many small or medium sized online businesses. Anyone with public websites/domains that are considered 'mission critical' or those monetizing the traffic on their website by selling advertising, or through affiliate networks.

I joined this group as a way to meet folks that may have need of my services. This is not uncommon, I'm sure, but I have never spammed the group and I never will. This email is as close to a 'commercial' as you will see from me.

I'm ranting a bit - but I can't be the only one who feels this way.

I'll try to start a new topic then....

Social Media - there are some in the PR world that say Social Media is going to completely replace PR as we know it. There are even those that say this has already happened with the advent of sites like twitter, facebook, digg, and others. These sites are an additional information source that consumers trust - and companies are recognizing this at an impressive rate. Big brands need to keep up and are now turning to social media to compete in a rapidly changing marketplace. Whenever shifts like this occur, there are big opportunities for  smaller companies to grab market-share by offering sometimes a 'better' alternative - but often times just an alternative. We've seen it happen in other verticals - and we'll see it again in Social Media. If you've got a good social network brewing, now is the time to stoke the flames. Make the calls and get your name out there. Leverage your user base for all they're worth. Put yourselves in front of big companies - they have money to spend, even in a recession. Facebook.com isn't the only social network to advertise on - and for a fraction of the cost they can be seen by (insert number of users in target demographic here) everyday.

Get the picture?

I'd like to hear your thoughts on this - anyone out there have some words of wisdom?

 

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I've noticed a drop in the number of genuine messages and responses, whilst there has certainly been a higher number of SPAM messages - I suggest that we are all responsible for making the group succeed so keep on posting.

In relation to Social Networks, I found this really interesting;

http://www.insidercrm.com/features/50-social-sites-012808/

take a look for yourself.

Whilst i'm on, i'm developing a new site focused on the needs of the contractor marketplace - see http://www.just4contractors.com - its early days but i'd appreciate your commenst/ views on the look and feel of the site.

thanks

Tony
--- In ONEKOInternetEntrepreneurs@yahoogroups.com, KAndle <kandle@...> wrote:
>
> Darrell,
> I asked for help with logistics and got none. I can't imagine that
> others don't want to or haven't done things to improve their ordering
> and return processes. Every additional second spent processing an order
> is a loss of profit and returns are even more important. I would like
> to know what guidelines there are when dealing with these things. Are
> there standards? I think things vary from state to state so is there a
> website that deals with all this.
>
> Anyway my new rebuilt website is almost completed. I have it up and
> running. I would love some feedback. I am fixing the topnav menu as
> it is crooked and sloppy looking. Any other suggestions are welcome.
> I know it's still pretty basic but over the past month or so I have been
> constantly improving the interface and look. I've been on a tight
> budget since my designer had to be let go. I have had to fix her messes
> up. I still have to redo the help files I had on my old site that I was
> using for traffic. The site is:
> http://www.backtheFup.com
>
> As far as social networking goes... I feel like it's still in early
> stages. Digg is powerful for getting new traffic and Twitter is
> powerful for getting a message out and to stay in front of people. RSS
> is also an interesting way of staying in front of people, if you blog,
> but it isn't widely accepted yet among the non-tech savvy. A lot of
> people don't understand Twitter either.
> But my search terms are $1.50 and up, per click, from Google so I hope
> social networking is enough to cause my rise in Google search results.
> To me it all ties back to what Google rewards for real long term
> benefit. You can use social networking to raise the credibility of your
> website in Googles eyes and that is still the best way to succeed
> online. That should be the end goal, to rank high in Google,
> organically. It could all depend on what you are selling or promoting
> though. It helps to know your target market and which sites they visit.
> Here is an interesting article on that.
> http://www.smmguru.com/2008/10/08/top-10-social-bookmarking-sites-complete-with-stats
>
> Anyway I think the spammers scared some of the members away. That is
> how it goes. Social networking at it's best.
>
> Kevin
> http://KAndleConsulting.com
> http://selfseo.kandle.us
>
> On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 19:38 -0500, Darrell Poe wrote:
> > This was once an active and energetic group of individuals all eager
> > to lend a hand to one another and share wisdom - now it seems that all
> > we see are spammers posting.
> >
> > Is there no one out there that has a legitimate question to ask or
> > topic to bring up?
> >
> > I personally am not an entrepreneur, but I have the entrepreneurial
> > spirit. I work for a company of over 1000 employees in a consulting
> > role to many small or medium sized online businesses. Anyone with
> > public websites/domains that are considered 'mission critical' or
> > those monetizing the traffic on their website by selling advertising,
> > or through affiliate networks.
> >
> > I joined this group as a way to meet folks that may have need of my
> > services. This is not uncommon, I'm sure, but I have never spammed the
> > group and I never will. This email is as close to a 'commercial' as
> > you will see from me.
> >
> > I'm ranting a bit - but I can't be the only one who feels this way.
> >
> > I'll try to start a new topic then....
> >
> > Social Media - there are some in the PR world that say Social Media is
> > going to completely replace PR as we know it. There are even those
> > that say this has already happened with the advent of sites like
> > twitter, facebook, digg, and others. These sites are an additional
> > information source that consumers trust - and companies are
> > recognizing this at an impressive rate. Big brands need to keep up and
> > are now turning to social media to compete in a rapidly changing
> > marketplace. Whenever shifts like this occur, there are big
> > opportunities for smaller companies to grab market-share by offering
> > sometimes a 'better' alternative - but often times just an
> > alternative. We've seen it happen in other verticals - and we'll see
> > it again in Social Media. If you've got a good social network brewing,
> > now is the time to stoke the flames. Make the calls and get your name
> > out there. Leverage your user base for all they're worth. Put
> > yourselves in front of big companies - they have money to spend, even
> > in a recession. Facebook.com isn't the only social network to
> > advertise on - and for a fraction of the cost they can be seen by
> > (insert number of users in target demographic here) everyday.
> >
> > Get the picture?
> >
> > I'd like to hear your thoughts on this - anyone out there have some
> > words of wisdom?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Oddly I don't get any of that from the group.  I get one or two pieces of the regular stuff and I know where those come from and it's not from the group. I never get more than the initial post and then I wipe the email message and the member from the board.  Maybe my Gmail account fishes them out and dumps them, I'm not sure.  My guess is what happened is that Yahoo! got trolled and someone downloaded their email lists. 

mod_dawn

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:57 PM, Tony Valcarcel <tvac897@yahoo.com> wrote:

Welcome to the club! --- On Thu, 11/13/08, Glen Fountain <s1@bluespotweb.com> wrote: From: Glen Fountain <s1@bluespotweb.com> Subject: Re: [ONEKOInternetEntrepreneurs] This Group To: ONEKOInternetEntrepreneurs@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 10:43 PM I am not even a member anymore - I get so much spam I tried to get out of the group, but the bots already had my membership email address and so now I still get bombarded... every... single... day.   Glen Fountain  On Nov 13, 2008, at 8:23 PM, Dawn Ramsdell wrote: I try to catch spammers as soon as possible when it happens.  The way Yahoo! Groups is set up it's sometimes difficult to know who is human and who's a bot.  One of the problems lately is the fact that they changed the way the profiles are done.  I used to be able to rely on them for information on the applicant such as join date and so forth.  However, with the new profile system, no one has put any information in there, so I really can't check out who anyone is and what they're about.  It makes it hard to know if they are a member of good standing for any length of time or what business they're in or anything else for that matter.  It just made my job harder.  We have hundreds of members here, but very few really post which is sad.  I know a lot of folks are busy right now trying to keep their jobs and their businesses afloat.  Perhaps some of you can share your successful (and not so successful) attempts at bolstering your businesses in these hard times so others may benefit from you ideas and knowledge. The Social Networking sites are very popular right now.  It's how a lot of information is passed around the net these days as well as via the bloggers.  A lot of newspapers and businesses are using this resource as well to get information out there.  I know a lot of people ask, "do they have a Myspace or Facebook page?" or "do they have a blog?".  It seems to be a more intimate way of getting to know and collecting more information on an individual or business.  I have really never been a big fan of social sites myself.  I tended to find them a bit too juvenile for my tastes, but I'm sure as more businesses get into using them, the face of it will change.  Much like the web itself changed as more and more businesses built websites and began to advertise.  However, don't get me started on digg.  I've had an account with them for over a year now and I'm not happy with their results.  Submitting something to them is a nightmare and I find the navigation to be too bulky.  Why should I have to click on a newslink two or three times to drill down to read the story?  Wastes my time.  When it comes to news, I am an ardent Farker!  mod_dawn   On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Jim@Bidteams <jim.cannon@bidteams .com>wrote: Darrell,   I normally don't spent a lot of time responding to these posts because I don't like to encourage spammers, and that seems to be 90% of what comes through.   Jim Cannon President & CEO Bid Teams.com 202-276-2305 866.273.1662 (fax) jim.cannon@bidteams .com www.bidteams. com From: ONEKOInternetEntrep reneurs@yahoogro ups.com[mailto:ONEKOInternetEntrep reneurs@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf OfDarrell Poe Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 19:38 To: ONEKOInternetEntrep reneurs@yahoogro ups.com Subject: [ONEKOInternetEntre preneurs] This Group   This was once an active and energetic group of individuals all eager to lend a hand to one another and share wisdom - now it seems that all we see are spammers posting.  Is there no one out there that has a legitimate question to ask or topic to bring up? I personally am not an entrepreneur, but I have the entrepreneurial spirit. I work for a company of over 1000 employees in a consulting role to many small or medium sized online businesses. Anyone with public websites/domains that are considered 'mission critical' or those monetizing the traffic on their website by selling advertising, or through affiliate networks. I joined this group as a way to meet folks that may have need of my services. This is not uncommon, I'm sure, but I have never spammed the group and I never will. This email is as close to a 'commercial' as you will see from me.  I'm ranting a bit - but I can't be the only one who feels this way.  I'll try to start a new topic then....  Social Media - there are some in the PR world that say Social Media is going to completely replace PR as we know it. There are even those that say this has already happened with the advent of sites like twitter, facebook, digg, and others. These sites are an additional information source that consumers trust - and companies are recognizing this at an impressive rate. Big brands need to keep up and are now turning to social media to compete in a rapidly changing marketplace. Whenever shifts like this occur, there are big opportunities for  smaller companies to grab market-share by offering sometimes a 'better' alternative - but often times just an alternative. We've seen it happen in other verticals - and we'll see it again in Social Media. If you've got a good social network brewing, now is the time to stoke the flames. Make the calls and get your name out there. Leverage your user base for all they're worth. Put yourselves in front of big companies - they have money to spend, even in a recession. Facebook.com isn't the only social network to advertise on - and for a fraction of the cost they can be seen by (insert number of users in target demographic here) everyday.  Get the picture?  I'd like to hear your thoughts on this - anyone out there have some words of wisdom?   No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.2/1785 - Release Date: 11/13/2008 09:12

This was once an active and energetic group of individuals all eager to lend a hand to one another and share wisdom - now it seems that all we see are spammers posting.

Is there no one out there that has a legitimate question to ask or topic to bring up?

I personally am not an entrepreneur, but I have the entrepreneurial spirit. I work for a company of over 1000 employees in a consulting role to many small or medium sized online businesses. Anyone with public websites/domains that are considered 'mission critical' or those monetizing the traffic on their website by selling advertising, or through affiliate networks.

I joined this group as a way to meet folks that may have need of my services. This is not uncommon, I'm sure, but I have never spammed the group and I never will. This email is as close to a 'commercial' as you will see from me.

I'm ranting a bit - but I can't be the only one who feels this way.

I'll try to start a new topic then....

Social Media - there are some in the PR world that say Social Media is going to completely replace PR as we know it. There are even those that say this has already happened with the advent of sites like twitter, facebook, digg, and others. These sites are an additional information source that consumers trust - and companies are recognizing this at an impressive rate. Big brands need to keep up and are now turning to social media to compete in a rapidly changing marketplace. Whenever shifts like this occur, there are big opportunities for  smaller companies to grab market-share by offering sometimes a 'better' alternative - but often times just an alternative. We've seen it happen in other verticals - and we'll see it again in Social Media. If you've got a good social network brewing, now is the time to stoke the flames. Make the calls and get your name out there. Leverage your user base for all they're worth. Put yourselves in front of big companies - they have money to spend, even in a recession. Facebook.com isn't the only social network to advertise on - and for a fraction of the cost they can be seen by (insert number of users in target demographic here) everyday.

Get the picture?

I'd like to hear your thoughts on this - anyone out there have some words of wisdom?