On Mon, 2003-12-29 at 12:26, mr_zali wrote:
> Sehubungan dengan itu kita perlu letak content di
> http://ms.openoffice.org/ berkenaan dengan projek Singa Emas ini.
> Dengan tujuan kita dapat memaparkan pada umum bahawa kita juga ada
> melakukan projek lokalisi untuk perisian OpenOffice - alternative bagi
> perisian komersial.

Do all of you have CVS access to OO.o?

I have some content (hacked up recently) and would like someone to help
with translations.

Also, I was talking a bit about the OpenOffice.org project (and
mentioned Bustamam and the GUI conversion bit, as well as MIMOS and
their help files/dictionary) on Cyberjaya.tv (www.cyberjaya.tv). It's on
Power Breakfast #43.

I think you need Windows Media Player (eek!), but it seemed to work on
Linux with mplayer. I'll be getting the mp4 of it soon, and will upload
it somewhere.
--
Colin Charles, byte@...
http://www.bytebot.net/

Saya setuju dengan pendapat Najmi.
Tujuan sebenar saya posting topik nie bukan bertujuan
untuk menghentam mana-mana pihak, tapi sebagai peringatan
bahawa *produk* lain sedang berusaha untuk menyiapkan versi
Bahasa Melayu. Dan oleh itu kita kena gandakan usaha kita untuk
menyiapkan projek Singa Emas ini sblm *produk* tersebut keluar.
Sehubungan dengan itu kita perlu letak content di
http://ms.openoffice.org/ berkenaan dengan projek Singa Emas ini.
Dengan tujuan kita dapat memaparkan pada umum bahawa kita juga ada
melakukan projek lokalisi untuk perisian OpenOffice - alternative bagi
perisian komersial.


Harap Maklum.





--- In OpenOffice-L10N-MY@yahoogroups.com, "md_najmi" <md_najmi@y...>
wrote:
> Saya rasa untuk masa lain,elok sebarang tindak-tanduk melibatkan
> badan/organisasi/NGO/persatuan/lembaga/sebarang agensi perlu
> di'anonymous'kan terlebih dahulu.
>
> Dapatkan kepastian,sebelum apa-apa.
>
> Nampak mungkin tak serius,tapi dalam laws saya yakin sebarang legal
> jurisdiction,email boleh dijadikan bukti.
>
> Dengan kata lain sebarang ketidakpuashatian elok disalurkan kepada
> orang yang betul dengan cara yang sesuai.
>
> Wassalam.

Saya rasa untuk masa lain,elok sebarang tindak-tanduk melibatkan
badan/organisasi/NGO/persatuan/lembaga/sebarang agensi perlu
di'anonymous'kan terlebih dahulu.

Dapatkan kepastian,sebelum apa-apa.

Nampak mungkin tak serius,tapi dalam laws saya yakin sebarang legal
jurisdiction,email boleh dijadikan bukti.

Dengan kata lain sebarang ketidakpuashatian elok disalurkan kepada
orang yang betul dengan cara yang sesuai.

Wassalam.

zaharahanum kamarudin menulis:
> Boleh embun tahu, dengan siapa En. Hasbullah berhubung di DBP berkenaan
> projek singa Emas ini?
>
Azah yg contact orang DBP pasal OpenOffice dulu2


> */Hasbullah Bin Pit <sebol@...>/* wrote:
>
>     Dear Raslan...
>
>     Nice story from you, but i would like to inform you that OpenOffice.org
>     Malay l10n (Singa Emas Project). *Unfortunetaly, the project didnt get
>     love from DBP.
>     *I dont know why maybe the team doesnt have bigname like "Microsoft"
>     the team are strugging to find the correct Malay term in certain word.
>     but then DBP simply do the l10n for microsoft & make the term used by
>     DBP/Microsoft become  official.
>
>
>     I would like to suggest an interview with Mr Bustamam Harun
>     <bustamam98@...> just like you did to me before.
>     or interview myself about this issue.
>
>
>     anyway, i would like to update u about general malay l10n project.
>     please refer
>     http://opensource.mimos.my/fosscon2003cd/paper/full_paper/muhammad_najmi_ahmad_zabidi.pdf
>
>
>     p/s: please forward this email to raslan is raslan@... is
>     invalid.
>
>

On Mon, 2003-12-22 at 02:17, mr_zali wrote:

> We need to put some content on ms.openoffice.org
> Some history about Singa Emas, What we have done,
> What the status, etc. Maybe Bustamam can help you
> on this :)

Yup. I know. Sorry folk, have been travelling far too much and getting
much work done is such a hassle.

Target to get some content on ms.openoffice.org is by 1st January 2004.
Even if the content is a place-holder. Holiday season tends to also have
an effect on performance.

BTW, with ms.openoffice.org, we're also allowed to have mailing lists
there - so we can leave yahoo!groups and move there. Any thoughts on
this?
--
Colin Charles, byte@...
http://www.bytebot.net/

zaharahanum kamarudin menulis:
> Boleh embun tahu, dengan siapa En. Hasbullah berhubung di DBP berkenaan
> projek singa Emas ini?
>
Azah yg contact orang DBP pasal OpenOffice dulu2


> */Hasbullah Bin Pit <sebol@...>/* wrote:
>
>     Dear Raslan...
>
>     Nice story from you, but i would like to inform you that OpenOffice.org
>     Malay l10n (Singa Emas Project). *Unfortunetaly, the project didnt get
>     love from DBP.
>     *I dont know why maybe the team doesnt have bigname like "Microsoft"
>     the team are strugging to find the correct Malay term in certain word.
>     but then DBP simply do the l10n for microsoft & make the term used by
>     DBP/Microsoft become  official.
>
>
>     I would like to suggest an interview with Mr Bustamam Harun
>     <bustamam98@...> just like you did to me before.
>     or interview myself about this issue.
>
>
>     anyway, i would like to update u about general malay l10n project.
>     please refer
>    
http://opensource.mimos.my/fosscon2003cd/paper/full_paper/muhammad_najmi_ahmad_z\
abidi.pdf
>
>
>     p/s: please forward this email to raslan is raslan@... is
>     invalid.
>
>
>
>
>     mr_zali menulis:
>      >
>    
http://star-techcentral.com/tech/story.asp?file=/2003/12/17/technology/6933415&s\
ec=technology
>    
<http://star-techcentral.com/tech/story.asp?file=/2003/12/17/technology/6933415&\
sec=technology>
>      >
>      >
>      > XP and Office to go native by mid-2004
>      > By RASLAN SHARIF
>      >
>      > KUALA LUMPUR: Bahasa Malaysia user interfaces for Microsoft's Windows
>      > XP operating system and Office 2003 productivity suite are
>     expected to
>      > be available by the middle of next year.
>      >
>      > A Microsoft Malaysia official said the compilation of a Bahasa
>      > Malaysia glossary of 7,500 terms to be used in the Langua ge
>     Interface
>      > Pack (LIP), as it is officially known, has been completed by Dewan
>      > Bahasa dan Pustaka.
>      >
>      > Further work on the software would be contracted to two local
>      > independent software vendors (ISVs), one each for Windows and Office
>      > respectively.
>      >
>      > The company has not decided whether to make the Bahasa Malaysia LIP
>      > available as a download from the Internet, or to distribute it on a
>      > CD. Pricing for the pack will also be decided later, the official
>     told
>      > In.Tech.
>      >
>      > Microsoft Malaysia and Dewan Bahasa dan Pustaka signed an
>     agreement on
>      > the glossary in September.
>      >
>      > At the signing ceremony, Microsoft chief technology officer Peter
>      > Moore said the company had identified more than 40 languages around
>      > the world for localisation of Windows XP and Office 2003,
>     including 14
>      > in India.
>      >
>      > The use of the Bahasa Malaysia LIP is to expected present new
>      > opportunities for Malaysian companies to develop local-language
>      > solutions and applications, according to Microsoft Malaysia.
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > Cheap office
>      >
>      > Microsoft Malaysia also said it would be making available the
>      > Microsoft Office Student and Teacher 2003 edition at a special price
>      > of RM199 at participating booths in the upcoming PC Fair, which opens
>      > tomorrow and runs through the weekend at the Putra World Trade Centre
>      > in Kuala Lumpur.
>      >
>      > Each retail pack allows students and teachers to install the same
>      > licence of Microsoft Office Student and Teacher 2003 edition in a
>      > total of three PCs or laptops, effectively allowing users to
>     enjoy the
>      > product at RM66 per PC, the company said in a statement.
>      >
>      > The usual price for this special edition is RM599.
>      >
>      > For more information, visit
>      > www.microsoft.com/malaysia/office/editions/students.
>      >
>      > PC Fair is a cash-and-carry PC event organised by the Association of
>      > the Computer and Multimedia Industry of Malaysia (Pikom).
>      >
>      >
>      > Jangan lupa singgah ke laman web Singa Emas di
>     http://oo-l10n-my.sourceforge.net <http://oo-l10n-my.sourceforge.net/>
>      >


--
Hasbullah Bin Pit (sebol)

"Fiber optic tu kecik, kalau kita letak high speed internet 312 Kbps tu,
   nanti fiber tu pecah." -  1-300-88-9515

Colin,

We need to put some content on ms.openoffice.org
Some history about Singa Emas, What we have done,
What the status, etc. Maybe Bustamam can help you
on this :)

Regards,
Syed Ahmad Shazali

On Thu, 2003-12-18 at 16:17, Hasbullah Bin Pit wrote:

Hello all,

(/me dons the hat as the marketer...)

> Nice story from you, but i would like to inform you that OpenOffice.org
> Malay l10n (Singa Emas Project). Unfortunetaly, the project didnt get
> love from DBP.

It's not about "love". Please don't be mistaken. But OpenOffice.org has
a Malay translation, and its nearly complete.

> I dont know why maybe the team doesnt have bigname like "Microsoft"
> the team are strugging to find the correct Malay term in certain word.
> but then DBP simply do the l10n for microsoft & make the term used by
> DBP/Microsoft become  official.

I think its time that we all get a good kamus.

> I would like to suggest an interview with Mr Bustamam Harun
> <bustamam98@...> just like you did to me before.
> or interview myself about this issue.

Yes. But that doesn't compete with what Microsoft has sent out.
Remember, you can't diss DBP in public! (it's politcally incorrect).

I suggest that once we have a working translation (we're still
incomplete, and building with 1.1RC4), we organise a press release of
sorts.

As for the OpenOffice.org project itself, we're going to be seeing a
1.1.1 release soon.

Kind regards,
Colin Charles
OpenOffice.org Community Marketing Contact Malaysia
Current project lead of ms.openoffice.org (where Singa Emas should move
to at some stage)
--
Colin Charles, byte@...
http://www.bytebot.net/

Dear Raslan...

Nice story from you, but i would like to inform you that OpenOffice.org
Malay l10n (Singa Emas Project). Unfortunetaly, the project didnt get
love from DBP.
I dont know why maybe the team doesnt have bigname like "Microsoft"
the team are strugging to find the correct Malay term in certain word.
but then DBP simply do the l10n for microsoft & make the term used by
DBP/Microsoft become  official.


I would like to suggest an interview with Mr Bustamam Harun
<bustamam98@...> just like you did to me before.
or interview myself about this issue.


anyway, i would like to update u about general malay l10n project.
please refer
http://opensource.mimos.my/fosscon2003cd/paper/full_paper/muhammad_najmi_ahmad_z\
abidi.pdf


p/s: please forward this email to raslan is raslan@... is
invalid.




mr_zali menulis:
>
http://star-techcentral.com/tech/story.asp?file=/2003/12/17/technology/6933415&s\
ec=technology
>
>
> XP and Office to go native by mid-2004
> By RASLAN SHARIF
>
> KUALA LUMPUR: Bahasa Malaysia user interfaces for Microsoft's Windows
> XP operating system and Office 2003 productivity suite are expected to
> be available by the middle of next year.
>
> A Microsoft Malaysia official said the compilation of a Bahasa
> Malaysia glossary of 7,500 terms to be used in the Language Interface
> Pack (LIP), as it is officially known, has been completed by Dewan
> Bahasa dan Pustaka.
>
> Further work on the software would be contracted to two local
> independent software vendors (ISVs), one each for Windows and Office
> respectively.
>
> The company has not decided whether to make the Bahasa Malaysia LIP
> available as a download from the Internet, or to distribute it on a
> CD. Pricing for the pack will also be decided later, the official told
> In.Tech.
>
> Microsoft Malaysia and Dewan Bahasa dan Pustaka signed an agreement on
> the glossary in September.
>
> At the signing ceremony, Microsoft chief technology officer Peter
> Moore said the company had identified more than 40 languages around
> the world for localisation of Windows XP and Office 2003, including 14
> in India.
>
> The use of the Bahasa Malaysia LIP is to expected present new
> opportunities for Malaysian companies to develop local-language
> solutions and applications, according to Microsoft Malaysia.
>
>
>
> Cheap office
>
> Microsoft Malaysia also said it would be making available the
> Microsoft Office Student and Teacher 2003 edition at a special price
> of RM199 at participating booths in the upcoming PC Fair, which opens
> tomorrow and runs through the weekend at the Putra World Trade Centre
> in Kuala Lumpur.
>
> Each retail pack allows students and teachers to install the same
> licence of Microsoft Office Student and Teacher 2003 edition in a
> total of three PCs or laptops, effectively allowing users to enjoy the
> product at RM66 per PC, the company said in a statement.
>
> The usual price for this special edition is RM599.
>
> For more information, visit
> www.microsoft.com/malaysia/office/editions/students.
>
> PC Fair is a cash-and-carry PC event organised by the Association of
> the Computer and Multimedia Industry of Malaysia (Pikom).
>
>
> Jangan lupa singgah ke laman web Singa Emas di
http://oo-l10n-my.sourceforge.net
>

--
Hasbullah Bin Pit (sebol)

"Fiber optic tu kecik, kalau kita letak high speed internet 312 Kbps tu,
   nanti fiber tu pecah." -  1-300-88-9515

http://star-techcentral.com/tech/story.asp?file=/2003/12/17/technology/6933415&s\
ec=technology


XP and Office to go native by mid-2004
By RASLAN SHARIF

KUALA LUMPUR: Bahasa Malaysia user interfaces for Microsoft's Windows
XP operating system and Office 2003 productivity suite are expected to
be available by the middle of next year.

A Microsoft Malaysia official said the compilation of a Bahasa
Malaysia glossary of 7,500 terms to be used in the Language Interface
Pack (LIP), as it is officially known, has been completed by Dewan
Bahasa dan Pustaka.

Further work on the software would be contracted to two local
independent software vendors (ISVs), one each for Windows and Office
respectively.

The company has not decided whether to make the Bahasa Malaysia LIP
available as a download from the Internet, or to distribute it on a
CD. Pricing for the pack will also be decided later, the official told
In.Tech.

Microsoft Malaysia and Dewan Bahasa dan Pustaka signed an agreement on
the glossary in September.

At the signing ceremony, Microsoft chief technology officer Peter
Moore said the company had identified more than 40 languages around
the world for localisation of Windows XP and Office 2003, including 14
in India.

The use of the Bahasa Malaysia LIP is to expected present new
opportunities for Malaysian companies to develop local-language
solutions and applications, according to Microsoft Malaysia.



Cheap office

Microsoft Malaysia also said it would be making available the
Microsoft Office Student and Teacher 2003 edition at a special price
of RM199 at participating booths in the upcoming PC Fair, which opens
tomorrow and runs through the weekend at the Putra World Trade Centre
in Kuala Lumpur.

Each retail pack allows students and teachers to install the same
licence of Microsoft Office Student and Teacher 2003 edition in a
total of three PCs or laptops, effectively allowing users to enjoy the
product at RM66 per PC, the company said in a statement.

The usual price for this special edition is RM599.

For more information, visit
www.microsoft.com/malaysia/office/editions/students.

PC Fair is a cash-and-carry PC event organised by the Association of
the Computer and Multimedia Industry of Malaysia (Pikom).

zaloi@... wrote:

>
>

4. Projek Kedidi Emas
     alamat kedidiemas@yahoogroups.com
      Langgan & arkib : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kedidiemas/
      URL induk http://kde-ms.sourceforge.net/
      Perbincangan emel untuk lrojek l10n KDE ke B.M
      Pengendali: M.Najmi


5. Projek Singa Emas
      Alamat: openoffice-l10n-my@yahoogroups.com
      Perbincangan projek terjemahan OpenOffice.org ke *_MY
      Langgan & Arkib http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OpenOffice-L10N-MY
      URL induk http://kde-ms.sourceforge.net/
      Pengendali : Bustamam Harun

Fixed


>
>
>
> Sebol,
> Aku rasa kau dah tercampur no 4. dan 5.
>
>
>
>
>
> Jangan lupa singgah ke laman web Singa Emas di
http://oo-l10n-my.sourceforge.net
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> To visit your group on the web, go to:
>  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OpenOffice-L10N-MY/
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>  OpenOffice-L10N-MY-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
>  http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

> pakai resolver ke?
>
> berapa besor resolver tu? dulu tak silap ada orang kata macam gajoh
> besornya ;)
>

tak guna resolver, saya buat full build.

>
> 4. Projek Kedidi Emas
>     alamat kedidiemas@yahoogroups.com
>     Langgan & arkib : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kedidiemas/
>     Perbincangan emel untuk lrojek l10n KDE ke B.M
>     Pengendali: M.Najmi
>
>
> 5. Projek Singa Emas
>     Alamat: openoffice-l10n-my@yahoogroups.com
>     Perbincangan projek terjemahan OpenOffice.org ke *_MY
>     Langgan & Arkib http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kedidiemas/
>     URL induk http://kde-ms.sourceforge.net/
>     Statistik : http://i18n.kde.org/stats/gui/HEAD/ms/
>


Sebol,
Aku rasa kau dah tercampur no 4. dan 5.

Ringkasan Perbincangan Emel Sumber Terbuka di Malaysia.


Emel ini akan memaklumkan tentang kewujudan Perbincangan Emel yang
berkaitan dengan sumber terbuka Mengikut Jenis.

Perbincangan Emel Sumber Terbuka berasaskan komuniti Sumber Terbuka

1. Mypenguin99
     mypenguin99@yahoogroups.com
     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mypenguin99/
     Perbincangan emel yang berevolusi drpd perbincangan emel
     Perbincangan emel yang terbesar di Malaysia.
     penguin@... & penguin@...
     moderator : sebol & khai

2. My-Opensource.org
     myoss@...
     Arkib & Langganan -> http://my-opensource.org/lists/myoss/index.html
     Perbincangan Emel di antara terawal.
     pengendali: Dr Nah Soe Hoe

3. MNCC-OSSIG
     kini mengalami masalah teknikal
     Laman web induk -> http://www.mncc.com.my/ossig/ossig-main1.html


Perbincangan Emel berasaskan Perisian & advocacy

1. http://www.slackware.org.my/
     Alamat: myslackware@yahoogroups.com
     Pengguna Slackware di Malaysia
     Arkib -> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/myslackware/messages
     Pengendali : nazrol

2. Malaysia Linux From Scratch
     Alamat: mylfs@...
     Langgan & Arkib -> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mylfs/
     pengendali: (mungkin root)

3. GNOME Malaysia
     Alamat:  gnome-my-list@....
     Jambatan antara Projek GNOME dengan Malaysia
     Langgan http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-my-list
     Arkib: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-my-list/
     Pengendali: cbhoh & sebol



Perbincangan Emel Berasaskan Projek Lokalisasi B.Melayu:

1. Projek Munsyi  (Global)
     Alamat : translation-team-ms@...
     Perbincangan emel global yang membincangkan projek l10n B.Melayu
     berkait rapat dengan "Translation Project"
     merangkupi proses penterjemahan yang tiada projek.
     pengendali: Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan

2. Istilah-ms (global)
      Alamat: istilah-ms@yahoogroups.com
      Perbincangan tentang istilah untuk digunakan dalam projek
      l10n B.Melayu
      Juga boleh digunakan untuk membincangkan istilah
      teknikal/bukan-teknkal dlm B.Melayu
      pengendali: sebol


3. Projek GNOME-ms (projek Gabai)
      gabai-penyumbang@...
     Langgan http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gabai-penyumbang
     Arkib ->
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=gabai-penyumbang
       Perbincangan emel untuk projek l10n GNOME ke B.M
      Pengendali: sebol


4. Projek Kedidi Emas
     alamat kedidiemas@yahoogroups.com
     Langgan & arkib : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kedidiemas/
     Perbincangan emel untuk lrojek l10n KDE ke B.M
     Pengendali: M.Najmi


5. Projek Singa Emas
     Alamat: openoffice-l10n-my@yahoogroups.com
     Perbincangan projek terjemahan OpenOffice.org ke *_MY
     Langgan & Arkib http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kedidiemas/
     URL induk http://kde-ms.sourceforge.net/
     Statistik : http://i18n.kde.org/stats/gui/HEAD/ms/




Perbincangan bukan sumber terbuka tetapi dianggotai oleh golongan nerd:

1. Formula Satu
     Alamat: Formula-satu@...
     Membincangkan bagaimana Montoya boleh pindah ke McLaren tahun 2005
     & kesannya terhadap Ralf Schumacher.
     Langgan & Arkib : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/formula-satu/
     pengendali : sebol

--- In OpenOffice-L10N-MY@yahoogroups.com, "mr_zali" <zaloi@y...>
> proses penyemakan.
>
> p/s: Saya dah berjaya compile OpenOffice untuk linux + windows.
thanks
> to abg Bus bagi tips.

pakai resolver ke?

berapa besor resolver tu? dulu tak silap ada orang kata macam gajoh
besornya ;)

locale utk RM-currency dah support ke?

dalam WinXP tak silap locale currency pun R jugak. Dia amik ICU punya
settings ke?

Akum Bustamam,

Saya + Azah + Ismas ingin teruskan kepada proses MENYEMAK istilah
Mesej UI. Sekarang nie kami tengah minta kerjasama DBP untuk
mengesahkan daftar istilah yang digunakan. Masih lagi dalam proses
perbincangan. Jadi tak tau camna reaksi/kerjasama yang akan diberikan.
Dari membuang masa menunggu, saya rasa lebih baik kami teruskan dengan
proses penyemakan.

p/s: Saya dah berjaya compile OpenOffice untuk linux + windows. thanks
to abg Bus bagi tips.

selamat raya to u too abg bustamam


--- bustamam98 <bustamam98@...> wrote:
> Pada semua yang berugama Islam, saya ucapkan Selamat
> Hari Raya, maaf
> zahir batin.
> Eid Mubarak.
>
> Bustamam
>
>
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daging lapah kalau tak cukup leh mintak team yg iklan
kat TV tu... daging hati limpa.. semua ada!.. takkan
depa satu family abis makan sekor lembut kut hihihih..
just joke :)


--- md_najmi <md_najmi@...> wrote:
> Selamat "Edul Fitr. utk Muslimin Muslimat semua.
>
> -tahun ni terpaksa beli daging kotak dari
> India,tersilap belanjawan masa beli daging
> lembu. heheh.
>
> daging sembelih (siap tunggu+lapah) dapat 1
> kilo,dengan tulang sekali.
>
>
> Mesej ini ditulis di atas Mac OS X.2
>
>
> Darwin localhost 6.8 Darwin Kernel Version 6.8: Wed
> Sep 10 15:20:55 PDT 2003;
> root:xnu/xnu-344.49.obj~2/RELEASE_PPC  Power
> Macintosh powerpc
> 12:32AM  up 10:28, 4 users, load averages: 0.57,
> 0.68, 0.57
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
>
> Jangan lupa singgah ke laman web Singa Emas di
> http://oo-l10n-my.sourceforge.net
>
>
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Assalamualaikum && Selamat Sejahtera.

Saya & cbhoh dah buat 1 mailing list Has untuk GNOME di Malaysia
Nama group tu belum pasti tapi yg pasti ianya untuk GNOME & Malaysia

Anda dijemput untuk menyertainya dengan melanggan di laman:-

* http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-my-list *

atau request guna tangan ke alamat emel saya.

Secara umumnya, tujuan pewujudan ML itu adalah untuk merapatkan GNOME
dengan penduduk di Malaysia.

Secara terperinci, tujuan pewujudan itu adalah untuk
- berkongsi pengalaman perihal GNOME sesama sendiri.
- berkongsi masalah bersama Berkenaan GNOME
- berkongsi idea berkenaan GNOME
- Mendedahkan diri dengan Komuniti GNOME global
- Membantu golongan dianiayai pepijat.
- Mendedahkan diri dengan kaedah pembangunan GNOME
    & seterusnya boleh melibatkan diri dalam pembangunan
    GNOME samada teknikal, separa teknikal atau bukan teknikal.
    seperti:-
     * Dokumentasi
     * Bugsquad (Pasukan gerak gempur pengenyah pepijat)
     * Kebolehgunaan (usability)
     * Kebolehaksesan (Accessibality) .. untuk orang kurang upaya
     * subprojek GNOME yg lain (yg mati boleh dihidupkan balik).
     * berborak di #gnome irc.gnome.org
     * berkomunikasi di http://gnomesupport.org/forum/
         && http://gnomedesktop.org
     * gnomemize fosscon , linuxworld && conference_lain

- Boleh digunakan untuk membantu projek GNOME-ms [1],
    sekurang2 jadi pengguna setia.
- Boleh buat "Makan-Makan GNOME 2.6"  Sate! Sate! Sate!





Jemputan versi B.Inggeris:
    http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-my-list/2003-November/msg00001.html




nota kaki:
1. gabai-penyumbang@... adalah untuk pembangun, jadi untuk
pengguna, boleh guna gnome-my-list@...


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Selamat "Edul Fitr. utk Muslimin Muslimat semua.

-tahun ni terpaksa beli daging kotak dari India,tersilap belanjawan masa beli
daging
lembu. heheh.

daging sembelih (siap tunggu+lapah) dapat 1 kilo,dengan tulang sekali.


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Pada semua yang berugama Islam, saya ucapkan Selamat Hari Raya, maaf
zahir batin.
Eid Mubarak.

Bustamam

Bustamam Harun wrote:
> Aku tengok kat Singa Emas, tak consistent.  Ada yang terjemah ada yang tak
> terjemah.  Aku rasa kalu jenama (cam OpenOffice) tak yah terjemah, tapi kalu
> nama perisian (cam "Calc") kalu ada terjemahan dalam BM, boleh terjemahkan.
>
> Bustamam


ni ada bebenang yg discuss pasal ni
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2003-October/thread.html#00291

baca ni..
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2003-October/msg00299.html
dia suggest kalau nama program yg descriptive, boleh translate
mana yg involve branding, takyah translate

cam "GNOME Calculator" boleh jadi "Kalkulator GNOME"

OpenOffice surely tak payah translate pasal dia brand
tapi "Calc" tu aku tak sure lak....

hmmm ke aku kena tengok bahasa lain buat macam mana

tapi macam mana pun kena sync between
shared-mime-info, module openoffice di cvs gnome
dgn OpenOffice korang...




>
> On Tuesday 18 November 2003 14:20, Hasbullah Bin Pit wrote:
>
>>ni nak tanya anda semua
>>korang translate nama program tak?
>>
>>maksud aku "OpenOffice Calc" tu kekal ke tak?
>>
>>jawapan diperlukan untuk pengintegrasian Desktop GNOME & KDE melalui
>>Freedesktop.org
>
>
>
> Jangan lupa singgah ke laman web Singa Emas di
http://oo-l10n-my.sourceforge.net
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

Hi all,

Since most of you here contribute to the OpenOffice.org project in some
way, I'm requesting that all of you join the Malay Language initiative,
ms.openoffice.org.

What you need to do?

1. Signup for an account at www.openoffice.org
2. Go to ms.openoffice.org and click "Join"
3. I'll approve the join

Kind regards.
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http://www.bytebot.net/

Aku tengok kat Singa Emas, tak consistent.  Ada yang terjemah ada yang tak
terjemah.  Aku rasa kalu jenama (cam OpenOffice) tak yah terjemah, tapi kalu
nama perisian (cam "Calc") kalu ada terjemahan dalam BM, boleh terjemahkan.

Bustamam

On Tuesday 18 November 2003 14:20, Hasbullah Bin Pit wrote:
> ni nak tanya anda semua
> korang translate nama program tak?
>
> maksud aku "OpenOffice Calc" tu kekal ke tak?
>
> jawapan diperlukan untuk pengintegrasian Desktop GNOME & KDE melalui
> Freedesktop.org

ni nak tanya anda semua
korang translate nama program tak?

maksud aku "OpenOffice Calc" tu kekal ke tak?

jawapan diperlukan untuk pengintegrasian Desktop GNOME & KDE melalui
Freedesktop.org



--
Hasbullah Bin Pit (sebol)

"Fiber optic tu kecik, kalau kita letak high speed internet 312 Kbps tu,
   nanti fiber tu pecah." -  1-300-88-9515

Okay, aku bekikan patch ICU yang kat OOo 1.1 yang aku buat dulu.  Sebenonya aku
tak sure OOo pakai
lokale data dari ICU atau dari fail XML yang kat i18n_pool/source/localedata,
sebab kat situ ada
gak data matawang dan tarikh.  Nanti biler OOo upgrade versi ICU nanti, mungkin
terus dapat
datalokale yang baru tu kot, tak yah patch2 lagik.

Nanti aku semakkan sekali data xml yang kat ICU tuh.

--- Hasbullah Bin Pit <sebol@...> wrote:
> Bustamam!!!
>
> OK mamat ni dah commit ke icu untuk locale icu je
> platform lain tak boleh, pasal dia kata dia tarik drpd platform asal
>
> "This data only mirrors what is on this platform. This data cannot be
> fixed though ICU."
>
> nasib la...
>
> untuk ni
> http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/open_office/xml/
> bustamam add la, tapi refer current yg kat icu
> (commited by mamat tu tak sampai 1 jam yg lalu.)
> rujuk yg ni
>
http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/~checkout~/locale/icu/experimental/ms.txt?re\
v=1.7&content-type=text/plain
>
> note:
> "Ahd" NOT "Aha"
> "Ringgit Malaysia" NOT "Malaysian Ringgit"
> "RM" NOT "R"
>
> tapikan...
>
> untuk http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/open_office/xml/ ,
> format dia XML
> so ...
> rujuk yg ni
>
http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/~checkout~/locale/linux/xml/ms_MY.xml?rev=1.\
1&content-type=text/plain
> tapi "Aha" jadikan "Ahd", "Rahb" jadikan "Rabu"
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: Fix for ./icu/locale/icu/experimental/ms.txt
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:33:08 -0800
> From: George Rhoten <grhoten@...>
> To: Hasbullah Bin Pit <sebol@...>
> CC: mypenguin99@yahoogroups.com, OpenOffice-L10N-MY@yahoogroups.com
>
> As a reminder, we can only fix errors in ICU.  The errors for HP, Solaris,
> Sun JDK and other platforms cannot be fixed by us.  The posted data only
> mirrors the current state of these other platforms.  If you want these
> problems fixed for other platforms, please contact each platform vendor
> about these errors.
>
> I can only accept the Malay data for ICU (
> http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/icu/ in ICU or XML format). The
> data in the other links that you provided come directly from other
> platforms.
>
> Thank you for your interest in ICU.
>
> George Rhoten
> IBM Globalization Center of Competency/ICU  San José, CA, USA
>
>
>
>
> Hasbullah Bin Pit <sebol@...>
> 11/11/2003 12:26 PM
>
>          To:     George Rhoten/San Jose/IBM@IBMUS
>          cc:     OpenOffice-L10N-MY@yahoogroups.com,
> mypenguin99@yahoogroups.com
>          Subject:        Re: Fix for ./icu/locale/icu/experimental/ms.txt
>
>
> George Rhoten menulis:
> > Hello,
> >
> > You submitted this jitterbug
> > http://www.jtcsv.com/cgibin/icu-bugs/?findid=3367
> >
> > Since you seem to know Malay, I was wondering if you could complete some
> > of the data.
> OK
>
>
> > What are the Brunei Dollar and Malaysian Ringgit called in Malay?
> Malaysian Ringgit is called as "Ringgit Malaysia" in Malay
>
> >Do you
> > know what currency symbol is typically used for the Brunei Dollar?
>
> I dont know about brunei dollar, but I've forward the query to my friend.
>
> >
> >         BND { "BND", "Brunei Dollar" }
> >         MYR { "RM",  "Malaysian Ringgit" }
> >
> >
> > There are many other things that can be translated, and you can view the
> > en locale for examples of what could be translated for Malay.
> Yup,
>
> I'll do it
> I've listed list of missing ms_MY files
>
>
> http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/common/xml/
> http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/all_diff_xml/
> http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/hp/icu_format/
> http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/hp/xml/
> http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/ibm/xml/
> http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/icu/xml/
> http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/open_office/xml/
> http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/solaris/xml/
> http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/sunjdk/icu_format/
> http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/sunjdk/xml/
>
>
> I'll add it, i promise



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Bustamam!!!

OK mamat ni dah commit ke icu untuk locale icu je
platform lain tak boleh, pasal dia kata dia tarik drpd platform asal

"This data only mirrors what is on this platform. This data cannot be
fixed though ICU."

nasib la...

untuk ni
http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/open_office/xml/
bustamam add la, tapi refer current yg kat icu
(commited by mamat tu tak sampai 1 jam yg lalu.)
rujuk yg ni
http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/~checkout~/locale/icu/experimental/ms.txt?re\
v=1.7&content-type=text/plain

note:
"Ahd" NOT "Aha"
"Ringgit Malaysia" NOT "Malaysian Ringgit"
"RM" NOT "R"

tapikan...

untuk http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/open_office/xml/ ,
format dia XML
so ...
rujuk yg ni
http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/~checkout~/locale/linux/xml/ms_MY.xml?rev=1.\
1&content-type=text/plain
tapi "Aha" jadikan "Ahd", "Rahb" jadikan "Rabu"



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Fix for ./icu/locale/icu/experimental/ms.txt
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:33:08 -0800
From: George Rhoten <grhoten@...>
To: Hasbullah Bin Pit <sebol@...>
CC: mypenguin99@yahoogroups.com, OpenOffice-L10N-MY@yahoogroups.com

As a reminder, we can only fix errors in ICU.  The errors for HP, Solaris,
Sun JDK and other platforms cannot be fixed by us.  The posted data only
mirrors the current state of these other platforms.  If you want these
problems fixed for other platforms, please contact each platform vendor
about these errors.

I can only accept the Malay data for ICU (
http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/icu/ in ICU or XML format). The
data in the other links that you provided come directly from other
platforms.

Thank you for your interest in ICU.

George Rhoten
IBM Globalization Center of Competency/ICU  San José, CA, USA




Hasbullah Bin Pit <sebol@...>
11/11/2003 12:26 PM

          To:     George Rhoten/San Jose/IBM@IBMUS
          cc:     OpenOffice-L10N-MY@yahoogroups.com,
mypenguin99@yahoogroups.com
          Subject:        Re: Fix for ./icu/locale/icu/experimental/ms.txt


George Rhoten menulis:
> Hello,
>
> You submitted this jitterbug
> http://www.jtcsv.com/cgibin/icu-bugs/?findid=3367
>
> Since you seem to know Malay, I was wondering if you could complete some
> of the data.
OK


> What are the Brunei Dollar and Malaysian Ringgit called in Malay?
Malaysian Ringgit is called as "Ringgit Malaysia" in Malay

>Do you
> know what currency symbol is typically used for the Brunei Dollar?

I dont know about brunei dollar, but I've forward the query to my friend.

>
>         BND { "BND", "Brunei Dollar" }
>         MYR { "RM",  "Malaysian Ringgit" }
>
>
> There are many other things that can be translated, and you can view the
> en locale for examples of what could be translated for Malay.
Yup,

I'll do it
I've listed list of missing ms_MY files


http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/common/xml/
http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/all_diff_xml/
http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/hp/icu_format/
http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/hp/xml/
http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/ibm/xml/
http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/icu/xml/
http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/open_office/xml/
http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/solaris/xml/
http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/sunjdk/icu_format/
http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/sunjdk/xml/


I'll add it, i promise


> George Rhoten
> IBM Globalization Center of Competency/ICU  San José, CA, USA


--
Hasbullah Bin Pit (sebol)

"Fiber optic tu kecik, kalau kita letak high speed internet 312 Kbps tu,
nanti fiber tu pecah." -  1-300-88-9515




--
Hasbullah Bin Pit (sebol)

"Fiber optic tu kecik, kalau kita letak high speed internet 312 Kbps tu,
   nanti fiber tu pecah." -  1-300-88-9515

George Rhoten menulis:
> Hello,
>
> You submitted this jitterbug
> http://www.jtcsv.com/cgibin/icu-bugs/?findid=3367
>
> Since you seem to know Malay, I was wondering if you could complete some
> of the data.
OK


> What are the Brunei Dollar and Malaysian Ringgit called in Malay?
Malaysian Ringgit is called as "Ringgit Malaysia" in Malay

>Do you
> know what currency symbol is typically used for the Brunei Dollar?

I dont know about brunei dollar, but I've forward the query to my friend.

>
>         BND { "BND", "Brunei Dollar" }
>         MYR { "RM",  "Malaysian Ringgit" }
>
>
> There are many other things that can be translated, and you can view the
> en locale for examples of what could be translated for Malay.
Yup,

I'll do it
I've listed list of missing ms_MY files


http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/common/xml/
http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/all_diff_xml/
http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/hp/icu_format/
http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/hp/xml/
http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/ibm/xml/
http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/icu/xml/
http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/open_office/xml/
http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/solaris/xml/
http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/sunjdk/icu_format/
http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/locale/sunjdk/xml/


I'll add it, i promise


> George Rhoten
> IBM Globalization Center of Competency/ICU  San José, CA, USA


--
Hasbullah Bin Pit (sebol)

"Fiber optic tu kecik, kalau kita letak high speed internet 312 Kbps tu,
   nanti fiber tu pecah." -  1-300-88-9515

kenapa apa yang disend pada glibc display oleh IBM?

ingatkan send kat gnu.org?

yang ni hok zaman sebelum ko start localize gnome ngan mozilla punya
registry ke?